>developer hates his core player base and pushes out updates to break playstyles out of spite, blocks any attempts at modding and even removed the debug console after people found out how to access itName a more autistic developer than Styg, you literally can't.
*blocks you're path*
>>730543478>remove thousands of lines of code to prevent access to the dev console>it's available again in less than a monthGet fucked styg
>>730543478fixing balance problems is good
People told me that magic was unplayable or whatever, but it was fine when I checked it out, so I guess it was just the case of average /v/-tard being mad about not being easily overpowered
Please keep your sperg rage contained to /vrpg/, thanks.
>>730543478Im annoyed at the fact he cant design quests, the "go here and kill things to progress the plot" design works fine before Depot A but then it turns out a large portion of the game is just gonna go that way and all the lore and story developments dont matter because they have a very unsatisfying resolution.You take that away and all you have is build autism to beat Dominating.>>730544553High focus Psi or pure Psi builds are some of the strongest in the game, the average person who tries this game is just too retarded to even figure how to get out of Depot A, let alone play Dom or put together a build without copying someone else's homework from the forums.
>>730544553>People told me that magic was unplayable or whateverPeople told you that psi isn't fun anymore. >it was fine when I checked it outNo shit, he didn't balanced the game and psi was actually buffed, specially the hybrids.>I guess it was just the case of average /v/-tard being mad about not being easily overpoweredI guess this is just the case of the average redditor being unable to read.inB4 the newfag mixes paragraphs and reddit formatting yet again
>>730544851>psi isn't fun anymorejust the case of average /v/-tard being mad about not being easily overpowered
>>730545027But psi is stronger now? Are you OK, retard?
>>730544851Overly obsessed with reddit, must be a self-hating redditor.
>>730545087>But psi is stronger now?why are you asking me that?
>>730545027>>730545356"I guess this is just the case of the average redditor being unable to read." confirmed.>>730545168>obsessedLiterally one post and you're mad because the inB4 got you, newfag.
>>730544553It's totally playable, you will spam the same 1-2 abilities through the entire game.It's not fun though.You could do some crazy combos before and really mix up how you approach fights.
I always liked the void creatures' snek design and thought they'd make cute snakewomen. So I made this edit
>>730546796Saved, good work
>>730546172Doesn't seem like this combo exceeds the amount of max ability slots anyway and it's very lategame stuff here
>>730543478this faggot dev killed my build mid-run out of fucking nowhere patching a ten year old game. I uninstalled
why did he do it
>>730543478The only thing I hate that he did was make the heavy duty exoskeletons pretty much unusable on low strength builds. Why would a powered exoskeleton have a minimum strength requirement?
>>730543478I suck at this game and it was still fun as fuck.
>>730543478>developer hates his core player base and pushes out updates to break playstyles out of spiteA terrible trend. But at least DD its modable. Underrail would be several orders of magnitude better (and popular) if it were mod friendly.
>Makes a video about your game>Suddenly your niche community is flooded by gooners/racist/4chan childrenYeah I would hate my fanbase too at that point.
>>730543478>PSI doesn't need to use ammo>Dev introduces mandatory psychic juice to drink as a mechanically identical replacement for ammoThis is some mass effect thermal clip tier faggotry
>>730550483His audience doesn't actually play the games so it's just a 1-2 weeks of shit posting and they move on, much like the average poster here.
>>730551505>much like the average poster here.You're just describing yourself.
>>730550483underrail was already a codex darling and styg was a known chud so in this case that fag ssseth didnt do much aside from increasing sales.
>tfw you want to experience the game and the setting but you're too trash to finish it without a guide dictating your every move
>>730552242You're just being a little ninny who is too scared of failure. Quit being a woman and slam your head into it until you figure things out.
>>730543478it was so funny how he tried simping for sam hyde
>>730552242The core game isn't to bad without a guide, you just pick your dump stat for damage and your dump stat for defense (con/agility) and generally stick to 1 main weapon type. The final area is actually aids and you can easily softlock yourself without a guide. personally I would just skip it and go do the DLC stuff instead.
>>730546172>It's totally playable, you will spam the same 1-2 abilities through the entire gameIt used to not be like that and you could actually make use of 10-12 spells and had reasons to use most of them so you weren't stuck spamming 1 damage spell and 1 utility spell.
>>730550786The ammo wasn't even that bad, it was purposely capping damage and increasing cost per spell if you dared to consider using more than one school of magic and straight up not allowed more than 4 ever. Literally no fun allowed dev, I have zero interest in the sequel because I know they're going to make it shit on purpose.
been interested in Underrail for a while but ngl everything about actually playing the game sounds like a fucking drag, and i'm saying that as someone who regularly puts 100-120 hours into RPGs.
>>730555408Eh, it's fun if you like trpgs that require a bit more thought and strategy. Unfortunately the intro is a bit of a drag as it plays out mostly the same for every kind of build because you don't have enough points in anything for it to matter. Once you get to the part where the world opens up it becomes a lot more fun. I'd say give a pirate, see if it grabs you in 5 or so hours and drop it if it doesn't.
He's based
he's cringe.
underrail funpatch funi like videogame
>>730543478Never trust a tranny
>>730543478I've done the beginning too many times. Gotten to Core City and just burn out and restart.
>>730559943Wait to the final boss to see if your build truly works. Genius design.
Are the rocket launchers from the update at least fun?Are they worse or better than the grenade launchers?
>>730544553Every build is playable You people are so stupid. They don't put a whole class of weapons and supporting abilities in the game for them to not be played
>>730560196This guy is Styg.Do not believe Styg lies.
>>730560184They are better if you need to quickly get rid of a group of enemies with low mechanical resistance and arent playing a character with low strength.Otherwise they are very AP and resource intensive like the miniguns, but also fun like them, but it takes just as much progress and time to get one.
>>730560196Playable if you play the way I want you to* -Styg
>try machete build>dominating pipeworkers left and right>30h in my build falls off, need to reload 20 times per encounter to get lucky with critsOh well, looks like I need to reroll.
>>730552242you want to invest in stealth and traps/throwing along with whatever core skill you want to usethen apply copious amounts of save scumming
>>730543478Based, fuck magic cucks
>>730563925Isn't it still really strong, just way less interesting?
>>730563134>need to reload 20 times per encounterI thought that's how the game expected you to play it. But then again I've only done a crossbow trapper and grenade wizard.
>>730560196>every build is playablethis is only true in the most technical sense that with enough retrying you'll get lucky and every hit from the enemy will miss. You're basically not allowed to spec into multiple weapon types because the damage split makes the game so much harder than it needs to be. Even something simple like having multiple types of melee weapons or multiple types of guns doesn't work well because feats encourage you to stick to one weapon type and again, you just end up with worse damage output if you try to split your focus.
>>730543478i was playing ultra easy baby mode and i was still struggling until the half game. im not the best gamer but man, the world is interesting but it feels the dev are trying to bully the lunch-fun out of you.
>>730563134It's really unfortunate that swords are just worse than knives. People make them work but it doesn't seem like a particularly fun build>>730564223I played a crossbow trapper build before and cleared everything through expedition without needing to keep reloading or spec into crit maxing. you just have to plan your build and pick useful feats. Also don't be one of those psycho's playing 3 CON no AGL, your life will be living hell. In my experience, 5 CON with decent armor is enough to keep you from having to smash the reload button.
can you pirate dlcs for steam games? heavy duty looks cool but I don't want to waste 10 bucks for something that should've been a free update
>>730543478How should I approach this game as a new player? Is this one of those games where if your build isn't absolutely optimal you're just worthless at everything? Do you recommend normal EXP or the one where you get EXP for finding oddities?
>>730543478>have a pirated copy from before all the nerfsLmao get fucked styx you fucking idiot
>>730543478I've been pirating games since I was about 10 y.o. Never had any issues with spiteful devs or anything.
>>730567851I have it somewhere around as well but several years later I don't feel like replaying at all. I'd give it another go if Expedition didn't require the very update that locked psi into narrower builds or hybrids.
>>730543478The psi nerf improved the game. Before the nerf there was like 1.5 psi builds that just used all psi skills because if you can be an omnipotent versalist right out of SGS why wouldn't you? Now there's actually options to specialize in specific psi skills while still in the late game being able to achieve that highly versatile playstyle if you build for it.>>730543720This is the actual real answer. Some of the worst spite nerfing just because it's a popular strategy regardless of how ruining some feature fucks the entire game in some way.
this game was always a retarded /v/poser game and it really didn't have any substance other than catering to that specific audience.
>>730551505I started playing Rimworld because of him and I ended up dumping thousands of hours of my life into it
>>730567781> Is this one of those games where if your build isn't absolutely optimal you're just worthless at everything?Here's a brain dead simple way to play. Pick your preferred way to do damage, be it melee, magic or guns. Pick a specific sub type and focus 90% of your damage to be that. Whatever stat increases your damage you should be putting the max points possible into that almost every level. Pick your choice of defense health or dodging (CON/AGL) put a decent amount of points in that. You don't need to max this as armor can make up for it. You can't be good at everything so pick a few things you only want some points in and focus on some key non-combat skills you'd want to prioritize. Hacking/lockpicking are really useful and I always recommend those. Stealth, traps, persuasion and mercantile are also good, but not essential. Crafting is kind of all or nothing. You either put the bare minimum for health items and not much else or you pump up mechanics and electronics a lot so you can make good energy shields. Again, not essential. >Do you recommend normal EXP or the one where you get EXP for finding oddities?Some "people" including styg will insist that oddity is the correct way to play, but in my experience that's just not true. Oddity has a functionally random leveling curve, you find oddities or you don't and you have a limited amount of control with leveling. Oddity will have you level quickly in the early game and scrounging enemy corpses in the late game so you can actually get the last few levels, not very fun. Classic you level by killing things and you spend 99% of your game time killing things. Classic gives you a solid leveling curve where you hit max level at about the 70-80% completion mark, so you never feel that weak or overleveled unless you go out of your way to grind, which is unnecessary.
>>730543478I used guns, I'm above this faggotry
>>730567781if you've played cRPGs before you'll probably build a character that can finish the game, just keep it simpleI prefer the oddity EXP
10 yereals later and still no way to increase your vision range pass 13 tiles, so snipers on the player hands can't be used at their full potential.But at least now I can finally make a JC Denton GEP gun build.
>>730567781I think Oddity is fun for a first time cause you're gonna wanna explore anyway and I enjoyed seeking out weird experience giving items. But I can only imagine Classic makes more sense on repeat playthroughs when you already know if something is worth exploring or not.
>>730543478I only know about this game through furry smut
>>730570532god imagine the high quality leather she'd drop
>>730550483>Makes a shitload more money because a million people see the vid and buy the game>Starts seething about it
>>730543720I just bought this, not played it yet. Is it bad or still worth playing?
>>730550483That's the only people who played this garbage in the first place.
>>730543478I just have pre-heavy duty version installer from gog and play that when I want another underrail run. You don't have to accept every bullshit, am you need is a little effort securing what you like
>>730543720insane FPBP pull
>>730560196Nope. You literally can't beat the game with non combat character. You are also in shit If you try to play throwing knives only character. If I could, id make mutagen puzzle kill tchort completely, not just weaken him.
>>730553660Deep Caverns is possible to do if you're capable of getting there. But you'll probably spend an entire playthrough's worth of hours savescumming to clear it. I honestly think with the absolute shit way my low level character was set up (level 18 with no real "build" randomly putting stats anywhere with no direction, low ammo after fighting faceless with the Tchort cult, and oddity exp mode) I can go into 99% of saves and clear it. It easily took me like 25 hours though 11 of which were actual successful attempts with the rest savescumming.>>730567781Oddity is way more fun and encourages going out of your way for loot. I wish other RPGs would adopt it en masse instead of classic leveling.
>>730572376Didn't see this post. If you've got a non-combat character you can do Mutagen Puzzle, stealth past the Tchortlings to blow up all 4 tanks with Dynamite and stealth your way to Tchort and keep savescumming until all of your throwables actually hit him. That's basically what I did >>730574581
Played recently and just went full CON and realized what a piece of shit AGI really is. Initiative and movement points means fuck all when you die in one hit, while CON chads just baiting out crawlers and slapping their shits up.
>>730563134You could play Dominating and have your build fall off at the 8h mark.Get ready to spend the entirety of the game placing traps, caltrops, and gas grenades for every single fucking encounter with more than two enemies. With the complimentary treatment of having the dev nerf your shit into the ground if you find a route that doesn't rely on turning every screen into a magical realm of AI exploits.
>Welcome to my shop!>Hello, I'd like to sell you that pile of junk over there.>Oh the one you left there a week ago? Sure I'll give you my exact current spending limit of 650 stygins.>Thanks, I'm gonna drop some full sets of armor over here, see you next reset.This kind of gameplay is why Underrail sucks.
>>730574870I never dropped shit on the ground I assumed for some reason people would just steal shit or it would despawn. I'd stored all the shit I wanted to sell in my house. I wouldn't have wasted money on a house if I knew this was an option. Shit.
>>730574969The house is worth it if you do any equipment or high end drug crafting. The crafting benches save a lot of skill points.
>>730552068>doesn't have the last 4 cheevoscome on bro
>>730551505>His audience doesn't actually play the gamesTell that to my 8000 hours of SS13 and god knows how many of Starsector.
>pushes out updates to break playstyles out of spiteIf true, that really makes me not want to play the game
>>730572080it's ok but the difficulty spikes 4 hours in when you're hit with frustrating control point takeovers in your secured countries because the AI gets a cheaty "steal control points" spell that doesn't care about how secured the country is, and the only counter to it is to know they can do this before even playing the game and pursue an immediate research strategy + be hyper aggressive to the aliens both of which will take 2-3 in-game years at a minimum to take off and work, and neither of which will actually make your control points secure, it just extends how long it'll take before the cheat spells start working againaside from the frustration of such a retarded game mechanic that literally requires meta knowledge to counter, it's ok, not amazing or great, a little better than mediocre. I'd personally put it somewhere in the 7/10 range.there's more long term difficulty spikes but they're not nearly as frustrating, like you can only know which spaceship drives are noob traps with meta knowledge of the game, but at least in that case the problem is just wasting 10 years of research rather than an annoying whack-a-mole game with enemy councillors you can never actually wipe out.
>>730567781Pay attention to the tutorial (especially related to defenses) and just go in blind, the game is not that hard assuming you play on default difficulty. There are definitely some tough difficulty spikes here and there but I'd almost say the game gets easier the longer you play it. The only stuff I'd look up on the wiki is anything related to crafting.
>>730543478I got scammed into buying this game by one of the devs persistent shill threads he keeps posting hereIt was 100% a waste of money. I was expecting something like x-com and I got something more like fallout 2 with combat that was somehow more boring despite adding complexity, while the writing and plot and lore of the world was just straight up trash. I think I reached some underground mineshaft maze before realizing I was just going through the motions and the game was never going to get more fun or interesting.dev and his dicksuckers love saying "skill issue" to every complaint too, including mine which were "this game and its lore is boring"I'll always trash this game if only because of the way they respond to peopleIt's a shit game made by a shit dev, do not waste your money on it
>>730550483The dev consented to the bideo to begin with because they sent sseth a free copy and sseth tells them in advance and tries to coordinate a sale.
>>730575380>I was expecting something like x-comHow did you even come to this conclusion
>>730575380It practically sells itself as a Fallout 2 spiritual successor though
>nerfing a single player game Cringe
>>730575510what do you mean how? They literally try and sell it to you as a tactics gameIt's just not a very good tactics game however
>>730575380This nigga thought he bought twitter
>>730575617It's not a secret that it's a solo character game. Not a party-based RPG, so no team tactics.
>>730575740and? That has nothing to do with it being a tactics game or notAt no point did I say anything about team tactics, when I referred to xcom it was about its tactical complexity contrasted to typical crpgs like fallout
>>730575965X-com's complexity is derived almost entirely from coordinating a squad. What were you expecting, destructible environments? Different points of entry, chokepoints and paths laden with traps are already featured.
>>730576472You are creating in your head issues and problems I have not once mentioned or talked about.My problem with underrail is purely that it's boring, it has decent combat complexity, but somehow that didn't translate into the combat actually being FUN, whereas fallout 2, which isn't nearly complex, is actually fun to play - both the combat, and the questlinesI can't quantify fun any further than I had the game figured out within the first 10-20 hours of playing and it just never got more interesting, in fact it became a boring slog where I felt like I was just wasting my time to see where the story went. I can't even remember anything about the story now; It's a bland and soulless setting with formulaic quests and factions and unsatisfying combat.
>>730550483Worked for the SYNTHETIK devs, that they even added an item to commemorate him.In fact worked too well that SYNTHETIK 2 is such a downgrade from the first game.
>>730567781>Is this one of those games where if your build isn't absolutely optimal you're just worthless at everything?Yes. This is very much a wiki/walkthrough game where if you don't plan every last aspect of your character build perfectly before you start, stick to it and don't deviate at all, you'll eat shit.
It really boils down to the differences in balance approach.>Nerfhammer aiming for perfect 50% WR esports gaymer boredom vs>Buffing/redesigning underperforming playstyles until they're equally viable Only retards and lazy fucks over-relay on nerfs
>>730575526>It practically sells itself as a Fallout 2 spiritual successor thoughYeah and it's honestly just insulting to Fallout 2
Rememeber how discord troons brainwashed him into fucking up his own psi system?One of them even bragged about it in the threads.
>one gadget build completely invalidates 150 other gadgets>make an official video telling people to git gud :)And that's why i only come back for the festivals and playing with my non autistic friends :)
>>730546796>flottosmir dudes had primo spiritual snake pussy and mouth to fuckNo wonder they rejected technology. Its like a perverse fit lit world
>>730570532The game is very popular with the autistic so of course DJ drew stuff like it. Man's goated.
>>730544553Psi is not "unplayable", it was dumbed down and turned into a single flowchart spamBefore the "rework" you could approach psi as a puzzle. Individual powers were weak but you could combine all of them and use them depending on the situation. Tranquility builds were by far the most fun way to play the game. This isn't possible anymore and all weaker spells are now completely useless and never going to be utilized by anyone.
>>730577171>retard doesn't understand power creep
I love having to wait 30 minutes for the vendors to reset and having to install mandatory mods to be able to sell shit in a timely manner. Shit like that is the reason I'm too lazy to replay it.
>>730577562>The game is very popular with the autisticUR shills are always a mix of aspies, slavs and furries. Also Styg added a tranny with the last patch, once again confirming the reality of "chud to troon" pipework, I won't be surprised if Infusion has LGTBBQ+ mandatory content.
>>730577737>retard doesn't understand fun
>>730543478Maybe not quite on the same level, but the way Nintendo would obsessively squash harmless advantageous bugs (especially resource duplication) for like four each after BotW and TotK released was weird. It was like they were trying to balance for a non-existent multiplayer economy. also kind of ironic given the games' big selling points being "le do whatever you want" sandboxes
>>730577671>old system was "spam any spell at any time, no limits, no penalties">it was dumbed downOk
>>730579389>spam"Spam" is what you currently do with 1 spell all 200 hours, discord troon.
>>730579389Old psi was beginner friendly in the best way. At any point you will be able to pull of a win as long as you pick your spells right. This was a good thing. There is nothing wrong with some playstyles being more lenient. Now a pure psi can easily go into an encounter with a loadout that has no possible way to win. This won't be an issue for an experienced player who already knows what waits behind every corner. But it forces savescum on new players who don't. So for the experienced player psi has only got stronger, but to the beginners it encourages absolutely degenerate playstyle.
>>730578947The fuck do you need money for? I end up with a bunch of junk in my lockers and a ton of money without selling a bunch of it and I rarely see a reason to buy anything unless it's a high quality component for crafting.
>>730579839>The fuck do you need money for?Ammo, components, buying all of the workbenches for your house. Jet skis as well. Its also not just about the money but also getting certain components to appear. Getting chem-pistol parts can be a complete bitch because of the way vendor resets work.
>>730579014>Also Styg added a tranny with the last patchWho and where?
>>730550483>implying the devs dont come crawling to him first
>>730580082Some they/them faggot on D4 HRT in the underpassages. Semi-random, mutually exclusive with Booth and Coral.
>>730580293Disgusting, the next game will probably be full of them
>>730579786The loadout system also punishes experimentation and taking time to find out what works as opposed to following a guide. It's so fucking stupid that swapping out anything just drains both active and reserve psi, forcing the player to use another dose of a drug.
A decade ago i praised Styg for not fucking with balance like Sawyer did in PoE1How the tables have turned
>nooooo! how can he keep updating the game to make less viable builds more viable and broken builds less broken!!!!!before the chem pistols were literally one of the worst builds in the game now its like top 5 and my personal favourite way to paly because he updated the game adding unique armours and reworks
>>730580489Game good? But OP say change bad?
>>730580489Chem pistols were one of the best builds 10 years ago already
>>730580520OP has probably never gotten past Depot A
>>730580293Unbelievable. Styg is a Serbian orthodox Christian and he does this?! Wish I could refund.
>>730580401>>730580787no one cares trumptardsgo worship your terrorists murdering innocent americans and defending your orange podophile
>>730580489>before the chem pistols were literally one of the worst builds in the gameHow clueless can you be, reddit formatting guy?
>>730580293Proofs?
>>730581598NTA and havent played in like a year, but chem pistol builds are/were the quintessential example of a build you would basically always do more with by just switching to anything else that uses similar skills and attributes.
>>730582054They're literally good against everything and include great effects, like stun, fire/fear and acid blob (basically a snare + death sentence). The early game it's a bit rough (unless you luck into crafting an incendiary one, then Depot A is a joke) but that's all. It has been consistently one of the top builds during all of UR history, also a favorite of Stygger, so it never gets nerfs.
>>730576920>SYNTHETIK 2 is such a downgrade from the first game.No shit. Lightning in a bottle I guess.
Oh no, page 9 again, quick Discord sisters, bump the shill thread!
>>730582228They're pretty fun but pistols are such a stat dump since you do need that precision, you do need that dex, and you do need a bunch of int for chem/plasma builds. This leaves you with arse agiliy/con and just becomes another glass cannon build.
>>730543478>devs kneecap their own work to prevent modders from implementing features they promised 15 years ago
>>730560196>t. never played path of exile
>>730549519
>>730543478Do you faggots have any pistol build for 1.3? Everything I relied on hot nerfed
>>730560196>Every build is playable>You people are so stupid. They don't put a whole class of weapons and supporting abilities in the game for them to not be playedThen why do devs themselves talk about red-herrings and newbie traps? Only the most touch-starved grognard thinks that shit should remain in games. Your choices should matter, and if they don't then the game is just for masochists who don't value their time. Retroactively cockblocking some meta-powergamer's build is little different than changing the plot of an ongoing series because someone in the audience guessed the outcome and the author can't handle such a crippling blow to their ego.
>>730563134you must be doing something wrong, as swords just keep getting better as you'll miss less and less so your damage keeps scaling with the feats too. you can even just brute force dlc bots without ee or shock if you want to.sure missing sucks, but you can then just run away with infinite mp from footwork or whatever.
>>730543478is it not this game was suppose to be like classic Fallout 2?
>>730586163No, it has very little in common with fallout games.
>>730543478I was always on the fence about buying this game but the more I looked into it the more it seemed like a chore to play so I just do fallout 1 and 2 runs instead.
>>730585671>then just run away with infinite mp from footwork......anon, i....
>>730585671>you can then just run away with infinite mp from footworklol, lmao
>>730580293Proof? That sounds so out of character that I don't believe you.
>>730543478Did he kill the tincan ar builds? If not, I don't care.
>>730586887of course he didages agopsionics are meant to completely fuck over tincans
Seems like people say the game is good only if you mod it/patch it? Is there some kind of "essentials" list to get? I've owned the game for a while but never played it
>>730543478I only really played Heavy AR/Stealth Sniping/Crossbow Trapper so most versions of the game have been pretty kind to me.Psi players always seem upset about the current state of Psi but I don't know enough about that build to understand why. When the DLC first launched I was a little annoyed how obviously strong the new Psi group was. I'm not a big fan of over psychic stuff in post apoc
>>730586958it's okayhe made stasis a health shield thing now
>>730586887Assault rifles have stayed untouched
>>730587165>the most boring but also most powerful shit like grenade spam, trap spam and AR spam stay untouched>Nerfs the fun agile melee builds, PSI and pistols into the ground
>>730586927That's not a new development, psi enemies fuck over everything unless you alpha strike them.
>>730587303bAlAncE
>>730563134>try melee build>reach DLC swampyeah fuck that shit
>>730585607The dev isn't there to coddle you, if you make a 3 PER blind sniper or 3 STR noodle arm hammer your build will suck. The game expects basic common sense but that still manages to filter the majority of players.
>>730587042you can and should use it on tough enemies while picking away at the goons
>>730587303Grenade spam is fun as fuck but yeah probably the most OP build in the game since you can just go full tank build and throw nades at your feet.
>>730560196>Every build is playableHaha, no, maybe on Hard and below and maybe if you hyperfocus on only one weapon while spamming caltrops and all possible flavour of 'nades because that's the universal glue that keeps every "build" from falling apart.On Dominating? Only the most minmaxed, caltrops+grenade assisted "builds" can make it, and these builds do not include things like throwing knives builds and the likes.I also hope you really like reloading because even that maxed out 95% chance to hit means a single missed hit makes you lose a fight.
>>730543478its a single player sloptard game, you need basic understanding to do some memory editing and make it any way you like.
>>730589337Even on hard it's near impossible to play with a theme in mind, you always get one-shotted because of bad initiative if you aren't good at stealth
>>730589337that's not very very true, and about dominating you don't need to care about anyway.>>730589964just press enter, bre
>>730590104>just press enter, bre>Die
How viable is pure throw with spears? I feel like being an african
>>730590104>that's not very very trueIt's very, very true, Styg.There's a reason you didn't dare nerf bear traps even with the nerf to warcrimes, because when you'll do (You'll do it at some point, I just know it) everything will fall apart at the seams because Underrail is a poorly designed piece of shit.>and about dominating you don't need to care about anyway.Is that why you locked quests and content to Dominating alone and every other difficulty can't access those?
>>730590547>locked quests and content to Dominating aloneOh, no! 0.003% of the game is locked behind hard mode! Quick, sperg out for years about some delusions you had while reading patch notes, Underrail has fallen!
>>730589606what's the point of nerfing shit in a singleplayer game in the first place?
The game is fun but styg's anti-modder autism is fucking retarded and frankly very strange behavior for a PC gamer into classic video crpgs and making a crpg. Most of the big classic CRPGs have tons of good mods.What are his opinions on stuff like Fallout Sonora, etc.? Double standards or thinks they are travesties? What does he think of Thief FMs and the like?
>>730586163That is ATOM RPG
>>730590680It's more than that Styg, I know your deranged serbian mind can't accept anything that isn't blind dicksucking but you really managed to piss off most of your tiny fanbase now and you're going to reap the consequences.
The new game looks like it's gonna be terrible
>>730575038>Caring about achievements
The only real mod I want is to re-enable console command so I can respec whenever I want
>>730590257since you die regardless of initiative the problem is probably something else.>>730590447probably doable at least on lower difficulties. might have some issues with having to constantly re-arm the spears mid fight and trying to stay alive at the same time, but dunno never played spears
>>730585276Is this guy Slavic or something?
>>730543478>Name a more autistic developer than Styg, you literally can't.I can actually. The Aurora 4x dev.
>>730590978He's S*rbian
>>730590996That's the good kind of tism though. Styg is a faggot.
>>730590447MY SPEAR IS THE SPEAR THAT WILL PIERCE THE SURFACE
>>730590746He is not entirely against it, but he is a control freak. He wants to limit modding to content he is comfortable with, or in his own words "mods that won't break the game's ethos".Personally I can empathize, I'm even more of an extreme purist than him.>Fallout Sonora, Thief FMsAbominations. Vanilla or bust.
>>730586887No the AR tincan sacred cow and most OP (and boring) build int he game stay unmolested. He nerfed pistols and all the melee builds because balance reasons or something.
>>730590447>>730591079That's better
Who was that one faggot ass modder that had DRM on his mods?
>>730590854>It's more than thatFalse.And just to be clear, I strongly believe that DOMINATING was a huge mistake since it spawned retarded faggots like you, but to have delusions about higher difficulties holding content hostage (tattoos/charms aren't meaningful content) aside from 1 (one) "random" encounter isn't healthy nor makes you look like someone who actually played the game.
God I can't wait for Infusion. For me Underrail is still the best CRPG in terms of character building/combat.
>>730591079>>730591169peep her bod(stats)>>730591184say what
>>730590746He knows people will undo all his nerfs and make the game fun again. He's like the Terraria dev wanting players to match torches to biomes, you have to play his way or be punished for it.
>>730590863I saw the gameplay reveal and lost interest. The combat looks shit and it reminds me of project zomboid which isn't a good sign.
I think the absolute worst "balance" change was randomizing what percentage of materials will improve crafted gear.you retarded snowback motherfucker, what the fuck is even the point of that?
>>730560196>Every build is playableNot really. It's difficult but not impossible to get yourself stuck in Underrail. If your build can beat Junkyard it's viable for the rest of the game.
>>730591257>>730591169>>730591079I will now masturbate to FGO Scathach
Played this long ago, the end section was the most boring and tedious shit i ever done in a gamet. Metathermics Sniper that insta killed everything
>>730591435i really don't like her designcu is awesome though
>>730591370>illiterate anon who doesn't play the games gets mad at patch notes (but couldn't read them properly)Many such cases
>>730591454>the end sectionDeep caverns? Even the most autistic Styg dickriders quit the game and start a new run once they reach them. Playing it once its nice tho.
>>730591658fuck off retard
>>730591039https://www.reddit.com/r/4Xgaming/comments/uhpb2q/why_aurora_4x_c_has_almost_nonexistent_mods_even/
>>730591805If you want to """play""" at Underrail: Patch Notes Reading at least learn how to read.
>>730591370>>730591805It was just the skill requirement, actually.Why? Who knows
>>730591695yes the one with Tchort, holy fuck all of these chores to unlock the doors only for the boss to die in 3 hits ( his minions in 1 )
>>730592113Yeah the gameplay there it's awful, I like the lore bits tho so that's why I'd recommend doing it once.
>>730550326>play the game normally>everything fun is nerfed to shit, play this way or suffer>install a porn mod>it reverts all the stupid fucking changesChuds win again.
>>730577562Everything is improved by alligator women
>>730592113Strong System Shock 2 vibes there.
>>730592423
>>730592365TL;DR?
>>730591184Kaldaien is a massive schizo and made his mods crash on detecting Denuvo cracks. I think he did a 180 and was suddenly anti-Denuvo. Just schizo things.There was also drama in the Star Sector modding community where some modders intentionally made their mods incompatible with a faction mod they considered to be too nazi.
>>730567781>Is this one of those games where if your build isn't absolutely optimal you're just worthless at everything?Yes. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a shill or the dev himself.
>>730592641There's some leeway on lower difficulties.Dominating is for absolute optimization
>>730592512Lets just say its the global rework mod. All the guys are now female sluts and all the females are now sluts as well. Then you add a few more resking mods (in the description of the base mod) and now its sluts everywhere fighting over who gets their brains fucked out by the men who are taking a backseat now.
>>730592735any rape?
I did all of the stuff except the Heavy Duty train ride and the going to the deep depths for the first time and I spent like 100 hours and got burnt out. I wish Expedition was standalone and not part of the main game so I wouldn't have felt the need to do it on my first playthrough. Game has like three times as much content as Fallout 2.
>>730592795Total resking of everything, suggestive dialogue and pinned down animations that show off some gorgeous tits
>>730592927Oh and a few new bosses, some of them are an absolute pain in the ass.
>>730567781Read everything.Doesn't have to be optimal, but killing stuff fast is fun.Definitely try oddity at least once.
>>730592735>>730592927name please
The change to AP really fucked this build.
>>730593773This man really kept in unarmed and knives with crippling strikes just to annoy players and got really pissed when they made them effective builds outside of just griefing you.
>>730592735>>730592927Damn, maybe I should reinstall DD after all.
>>730594367i just didgimme the fucking name, anon
If Underrail had modding you would be able to get gangraped if you went to the grey army base as a woman.
>>730594452How could I know? Guess I'll check the usual places later. Like Gayusmods and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
>>730592660>Dominating is for absolute optimizationnah, just have to have godly gamer skills. for example I'm having grand old time with this silly flurryless machete tin can muscle wizard. expertise = polymath, so skills are obviously fucked.https://underrail.info/build/?Hg0DAwkDBwgAOwDCoAAAOFpFQQBubilTbgDCoABrAAA8KwhPUA0qFGlfYlXCh8KLS8KNwrY8MeKdoAHiorUC4quGBeKsqgbfvg
>>730594663gross
>>730594609why are they all gay?
>>730594663>just have to have godly gamer skillsActually you just need to know how to cheese. Grenades, traps and caltrops alone beat le DOMINATING, whatever that your build do its optional.
>>730594609Finally a reason for a female playthrough.I liked how you could slut them out in fallout 2 and ATOM rpg.
>>730594808They're based on RL Serbians.
>>730594609Anime mods would happen and likely give Styg an aneurysm
>>730594843>ATOM rpgelaborate
>>730594897>anime mods would happen and likely improve the game
>>730594843Fallout 2 is my favorite h-game. I was disappointed when I played Underrail and being a female has almost no gender-specific actions and no having sex to meet objectives. It was a valid playstyle in a lot of ways in Fallout 2.
>>730594452Lustiest Lair
>>730590104So if I take skills I think sounds cool and useful I can complete the game with just a bit of effort, naturally?
>>730594905You can get fucked by several NPCs, some for quests some just for XP.Hell the game has even condoms as items in your inventory that get used, I think you can get sick if you don't.
>>730595123oh my
>>730543478I don't even know why you people play this game.You need a guide not for some specific tasks but to play the game at normal difficulty, experimentation is heavly discouraged because a point in the wrong skill is a softlock for most part of the game, the setting is bland and generic and the community are assholes "lol you must adapt to those 6 builds or fuck off". You people just can't have fun.
>>730595203It was really fucking fun. Absurdly fucking fun. For fuck's sake, I made goddamn bare fist unarmed build that beat the hardest difficulty...on the last patch at least.
>>730575205Holy crap, saved me a buy. Thanks.
>>730543478civ
>>730590774god, please dont say those words.
>>730543478>Oh look some indie 2D TRPG slop>Let's pirate it>underrail.rar >storage: 15GBwtf? how
>>730595203Difficulty is only difficult if it's unenjoyable and underrail is fun so despite being difficult on paper it's not really that difficult. I appricate the versatility of combat, how you can weave so many different weapons and traps and abilities in a build to make something work. And I just don't know how anyone can say the setting is bland with a straight face, underrail rightly has a reputation as the best crpg combat but I would also put the setting and background up there as some of the best in the genre too. The stories and quests are more questionable, but generally passable with some outsanding stuff now and then. It's just a good game.
>>730543478Why are serbians like this?
>>730585276what the actual fuck is wrong with him
>>730597082They live a miserable life, so they think everybody else deserves the same.
>>730597201He's Serbian.
>>730543478You're not allowed to play my game in a way I don't like.
>>730544493balance problems in...a single player rpg?
>>730550483
>>730592365lol what
>>730597393Do you think devs just nail balance on the first try?>hmm I need some numbers for this here game>lets make this enemy have 1000000 health>player can deal 1 damage per turn>perfect, better not change it later or some guy online will be mad
>>730576920why? What made the sequel worse?
>>730589337Niggas won the game on dominating with a crowbar. A fucking crowbar.You guys arent as goated as you think you are. This isn't to shit on you its just how it works, you arent good enough for it. Thats fine, but people have done it easy fucking a plenty.
>>730598739>Niggas won the game on dominating with a crowbarYou can't do that anymore tho.
>>730598375I think after ten years and while working on the sequel you should let it go.
>>730598841Is that why he fucking nerfed expose weakness?
>>730598739Yeah, before Styg had another melty and patched that out, RETARD
>>730598375But we're talking about UR.>hmm I need some numbers for this here game>lets make this enemy have 1000000 health>player can deal 1 damage per turn>guess I'll buff the enemy HP by 50% and nerf the build that does 0.5 damage per turn
>>730598739Every time somebody finds a way to break the game it gets patched out.Some dude dicovered how to get 100% physical damage resistance 5 years after the game released, then stygger put in a hard cap. All this does is making the game unfun and punish people who like to buildcraft, while also fucking over people who just play the game normally since everything just keeps getting weaker.
>>730598949Probably part of it. Also melee builds are generally underpowered and people only play them for fun and challenge so they deserve some widespread nerfs too.
>>730599263what the fuck
>>730598841But they did. And that's the point, you think you are on that level and you arent. The level rose, and its bullshit now true, but none of your are at that level or close.>>730599035He made Dom Dom and Hard Harder. I kinda like the more health change myself but its hard to complain about this when he has stated repeatedly the game is meant for Normal.>>730599231If you think a technically mechanical immune build at 25 is game breaking I hate to tell you, even the dude said it was kinda mid in practice and sorta boring. The Immortal thing was funny but even with 95% tops that shit is still pretty great as is.
>>730599782> even the dude said it was kinda mid in practiceNot my point.The point is stygger """"balancing"""" the game around absolute edge cases cooked up by autistic min-maxers, which overall is a race to the bottom for normal players who don't autistically min-max.I've stopped posting my dominating webms because I fear he will fuck over my builds.I know he or his discord trooners lurk in these places and when he sees somebody beating his dominating bosses in one turn he will go in there and start nerfing.
>>730600134Okay? I think Dom is frankly a fucking joke and I guess I'm part of the discord trannies you mention since I'm one of the occulites Anon, but nobody is snitching shit to Styg, they frankly think hes a bit of an idiot sometimes. The guy who got nerfed with the immortal stuff and the like didn't like it at all to get nerfed, and the real fag is Eidein.
>>730599481Do you understand why people are pissed now?It's been going on for a whole decade and Styg just gave people one last fuck you on the tenth anniversary no less.>>730599782>its hard to complain about this when he has stated repeatedly the game is meant for Normal.Nah fuck off with this hypocritical pseudoapologetic bullshit nobody buys, if the game was actually meant for Normal difficulty he wouldn't lock content to Dominating only, if the game was actually meant for normal difficulty Dominating wouldn't exist at all and it would have received even more health bloat modifiers when everyone and their mother was complaining about the bloat for years.Truth is Styg is a petty asshole with a massively inflated ego, and a poor game designer, remember that in all these years he STILL didn't fix tons of questlines that end abruptly like Gorky's but found all the time in the world to add even more bloat to an already massively bloated game AND made sure to eliminate any and all build possibilities that doesn't make the game play like a russian roulette simulator.You try to spin Underrail as this deep game that requires to be at a certain "level" to beat when everyone and their mother knows it's a broken mess where bear traps, caltrops and grenades are the actual bread and butter of every single "build", which consists of picking a weapon, learning the ideal range for initiating an unbroken alpha strike chain and avoid any and all interactions with enemies because the moment a single enemy in your level range gets a turn it's just throwing a dice for a reload.
>>730543720trvke
>>730600290Dude, he put a 100% health mod and a grand total of 2 extra things in Dom. If you think a modifier and two frankly shitty "boss fights" means the game is meant for it when he just knows that dipshits for some reason love the Dominating suffering, then I don't really know what to tell you except skill issue because it very much isn't even really tested by the devs, they play Normal and Hard.
>>730544683I haven't played the game in ages but once you get to the big city you find out that absolutely everything else is blatantly unfinished with no intention of ever being completed.
>>730599481First Underrail patch? Probably the most divisive patch was the psi "nerf" that didn't nerf anything, actually buffed hybrid builds (which Styg allegedly hates) and made psi play more tedious and less rewarding with innervating and the psi reserve.
>>730600407>Dude, he put a 100% health mod and a grand total of 2 extra things in DomAnd systematically nerfed the majority of things that work on Dominating for an entire decade, while shitposting ironically about "suffering" and tedium being the core identity of Underrail and his game design philosophy.Again, your weak, pathetic dicksucking has no ground to stand on as Styg systematically fucks over ANYTHING that specifically makes Dominating easier, because at the end of the day that's what Styg wants you to play, if he actually totally didn't care about it as you claim then he wouldn't have played the pettiest game of cat and mouse for over a decade where he systematically and hysterically checks whoever comes up with a functional build for Dominating and then nerfs it to the ground so everything sucks ass and the entire difficulty mode bottlenecks you even harder into bear trap+caltrops+nade spam with some added wishful thinking of your choice on the side.Nothing about this is a skill issue on anyone but Styg's part since he's unable to design an actual good game and he's so petty and vindictive about it he's been actively seething and punishing people for a decade because they're not having fun in the "right" way.
>>730543478>annoying elitist playerbase demanding the developer implement or change his game to fulfil their power-gamer/meta build fantasies.I'd do the same too. Too many entitled min/maxxers demanding special treatment. If those people are so passionate they can make their own game.
>patching a single player game to nerf a bunch of shit a decade laterclown shit
>>730600986>Styg systematically fucks over ANYTHING that specifically makes Dominating easier, because at the end of the day that's what Styg wants you to play, if he actually totally didn't care about it as you claim then he wouldn't have played the pettiest game of cat and mouse for over a decade where he systematically and hysterically checks whoever comes up with a functional build for Dominating and then nerfs it to the ground so everything sucks ass and the entire difficulty mode bottlenecks you even harder into bear trap+caltrops+nade spam with some added wishful thinking of your choice on the side.Thats Dominating. Its meant to be the ridiculous ever increasing challenge that puts you to the test. The whole point is that it's hard especially as he adds in additional means of power like LMGs Minigund and Rocket Launchers and improved exp rates for inteligence and buffs perks to make shit hard. If Dom stops being Dom levels hard, its not Dom, its not what people want it to be.Styg also buffed the fuck out of a lot of shit. Energy knives are full insane mode now, int is amazing, rocket launchers are pretty damn good, the pistol rework cleans house, Chem pistols are still nuts alongside SMGs and Machineguns in general, grenade launchers got slightly tuned down but are still incredibly solid, like you think its a game of nerfs when if youre even remotely smart half the game is just stopped by a throwing net or cooked shot or still gets owned by TC.You arent That Guy. You actually arent Built Different, you arent the kind of nigga who could do Crowbar Only Dom before the buff. You think you need the meta build but you never did, because damn near everything does work and most of it (AR) still works fantastically.
>>730585276Man he really huffed his own shit.
>>730600281>Eideini thought he just posted videos of his builds taking on stuff on youtube
>>730601406>Energy knives are full insane mode now,now that he's nerfed fists to the ground, sure
>>730601557He's gay and kinda dicksucks Styg because sometimes he goes to his streams. Its weird but what can you do
>>730601557>Eideinmore like poopy mcbuttface.
>>730600986>Styg systematically fucks over ANYTHING that specifically makes Dominating easierBut he refuses to nerf grenades and traps. He just nerf builds because people were having fun.
>>730543478Helldivers 2>Have fun because overpowered >Fun police nerf everything >Finally restore it>...>Nerf it all over again
>>730601406>Its meant to be the ridiculous ever increasing challenge that puts you to the test.Puts you to the test of what?Carrying a ton of bear traps, caltrops and grenades while using whatever poorly animated MMO rotation you chose?Again, the game entirely boils down to minmaxing whatever offensive stat your weapon of choice needs, alphastrike CC everything on screen so they can't actually do anything to you and pray you don't miss on your 95% hit rates or you have to reload, this is Underrail's meta as a whole regardless of the difficulty setting.The only thing Dominating does is bottleneck you further into the bear trap/net/caltrop etc. meta while thinning down your actual side weapon choice.>You think you need the meta build but you never did, because damn near everything does workNo, nothing works because what's carrying you are bear traps, caltrops, nets and grenades, not your cooked shots, tungsten rounds, grenade launchers or critmaxxed energy pistols, the former are what makes the latter works, the former are the actual meat and meta of the game which is why as>>730601787 says and I already said, Styg doesn't dare nerf them to the ground because the entire game would completely fucking crumble without those crutches that don't even require any investment.You think you're "That Guy" but you're actually just a fucking midwit with a tiny serbian cock soldered to your mouth cavity.
>>730597082We hate everyone, including other serbs.
thank you for the lustiet lair drop
>>730597082turkish genes
>>730602043>The only thing Dominating does is bottleneck you further into the bear trap/net/caltrop etc. meta while thinning down your actual side weapon choice.This is why you fail. Your main methodology is unoptimized and also mid. If you need bear traps in most encounters, your build sucks. If you need caltrops all the time your build sucks. If you need nets all the time, the pattern is clear.A single Chem pistol with versatility can make an entire dominating arena boss a joke. But you won't craft one. A single shock shuriken or a taser can nullify most things but you arent exploring it. You likely dont carry any kind of real optimization in damage or health resistance optimization whatsoever and I bet 50 charons you dont use Morphine ever preemptively alongside aegis, or actually stock up on focus stims. I bet you dont grenade bait either.I am Not That Guy. I dont care for Dominating because its a cave full of Sadists and Masochists bragging to one another of how they did better than eachother with dick tier level design. Its a meme difficulty made to be a meme but that's doable. Thats the point of Dom, and you still dont get it because not only are you not That Guy, you are a Nigger. You whine because you cant win at the optimization race because you arent that good at the game, and its okay not to be because again, Dom is a meme. Its not the intended difficulty, its never been, it doesnt even have some weird achievement for beating it or whatever, its not recommended you play it.You arent just tilting at windmills, you are complaining you arent part of the retard no life club of enjoying cock and ball torture retard. Try normal and basic pistols, you wipe the fucking floor. You are fighting shadows in a cave simulator because you think the joke difficulty engaged by sub 1% of total players matters and that's your real skill issue.
>>730602043but it's possible to beat dom without dying or reloading, simultaneously without using any subterfuge skills, combat utilities, traps, braps, vanish bombs, merchant refresh, or psi dipping though.
>>730543478>Fun police nerf everything I swear, MMOs were a mistake. They've fried the brains of a generation of both players and game developers. Put the videogames down and try CBT instead.
>>730543478People actually pay for this game?
>>730596596This game is easily 100 hours long, it does take a long time to load for some reason they could work on that.
>>730602706hi eidein
>>730603791that's because it saves and rewrites your saves on entering a new area
>>730543478Guys, here Styg, they told me this is a new Reddit AMA forum!
>>730602635>If you need bear traps in most encounters, your build sucksNo, you don't need them in most encounters because the game is effectively over at level 16 when your build comes online and there's a metric shitload of boring trash encounters the game throws at you, especially in Expedition.Will you need them at some encounters? Yes, you will, because the game is literally designed around it, try to beat up the Forge zerg rush on Dominating with a Energy gun build without ever using traps, caltrops and gas nades when your entire builds gimmick, crits, are disabled.>A single Chem pistol with versatility can make an entire dominating arena boss a jokeSmoke bombs alone makes any arena boss including Carnifex a joke provided you have the initiative, that doesn't mean anything, the arena lives and dies by initiative rolls so you don't need to craft shit, hell you don't even need smoke bombs as long as you get the initiative, I have no idea why you're even mentioning shit like Focus stims when the game literally throws that shit at you like candy because you're supposed to use them as much as you can, you're truly a cocksucking midwit.>I am Not That Guy.You sure act like it given all the nonsense you spout in order to defend a shitty game.>Try normal and basic pistols, you wipe the fucking floor.No thanks, I have far better uses for my time than playing an ugly, poorly written and unfinished turn based diablolike made by a hysteric serb, if I wanted to mindlessly button mash in a shitty RPG I'd play BG3, at least that one looks vaguely pretty and it has a semblance of mechanical depth and roleplaying, if I wanted a postapoc power fantasy RPG I'd play Caves of Qud where devs not only do not hate you but encourage a prolific modding community to help shape the game to your taste rather than pretending to be part of the hardcore gaymer elites like Styg is desperately trying to for a good decade by now.
>>730543478Yeah I hope he enjoys the money he got from my purchase of Underrail + Expedition, cause that shit he pulled with psychic skills is unacceptable. I paid for a single player game, not a live service game.
>traps and grenades remain one of the most OP weapons and build playstyles that have never ONCE gotten a nerf like everything else
>>730604098>No thanks, I have far better uses for my time than playing an ugly, poorly written and unfinished turn based diablolike made by a hysteric serb, if I wanted to mindlessly button mash in a shitty RPG I'd play BG3, at least that one looks vaguely pretty and it has a semblance of mechanical depth and roleplaying, if I wanted a postapoc power fantasy RPG I'd play Caves of Qud where devs not only do not hate you but encourage a prolific modding community to help shape the game to your taste rather than pretending to be part of the hardcore gaymer elites like Styg is desperately trying to for a good decade by now.You spent over an hour of your time here ranting about nothing, your time aint worth shit. Go play the adequate difficulty and quit wasting time here on a dificulty not meant for you.
>>730604295Quick Tinkering was one of the first post-release nerfs. Admittedly that was the one and only major nerf they received.
>>730604295Huh? 'Nades just got hit with the nerf hammer super hard.Not that it matters outside of sperg difficulty (as it should be).
>>730604625I'm actually playing videogames while systematically dismantling your lies in here on the side on a sunday evening, you know nothing about me, my time's worth or my experience with a game I've been playing on and off for almost a decade, you're just a worthless sycophant rabidly defending your psychotic master for free.>Go play the adequate difficultyNo, I stopped playing Underrail altogether because it's a shitty game no matter the difficulty, I cleared DOMINATING multiple times, with multiple builds, there's nothing left to do in the game for me but laughing at it and "people" like you.
>>730604098>boring trash encounters the game throws at you, especially in Expedition>"maybe I'll play a melee build today">remember expedition>nope.jpgI still don't get why Styg nerfed almost all the melee builds in this patch. Serbian things I guess.
>>730601526understandable. it's, after all, shit of the highest quality.
>>730605093meh
>>730604295They technically got nerfed with the 50 and 100% increase in Hard and Dom as now you can't wipe people out with a single grenade but pretty much. I don't think people realize just how fucking insane three pointer is, a grenade critting is fucking stupid insanely good, and all it wants is 7 dex. At base 50 throwing, its 10% chance, at 150 (very easy to get) you just got yourself a 25% chance to wipe an encounter.>>730604936>My time is valuable you know>Which is why I don't play Underrail!>I cope and seethe and shit and cum myself after beating Dom several times with multiple builds and fuck bitches and hoes and murder people boy and spend hours on threads on 4chan complaining about it instead kid!Jesus christ stop morphing into a corn cob, you are making me feel bad about you.
>>730605138What's even your point? Shit isn't hard just incredibly tedious and boring. If anything you're just proving being an autistic fuck.
>>730605138>fancy footworkYeah RIP
>>730605192>I don't think people realize just how fucking insane three pointer isThey don't? It's just one feat and there's no reason not to pick it if your build has the DEX for it since you're going to get throwing either way.
>>730605135>we got you coveredmy man talking like a drug dealer
>>730605192>More headcanon and slander after being systematically exposed as a midwit fraudStyg is not fucking you nor is he giving a discount on Infusion for your whiteknighting in here, you're not stopping me or anyone else from pointing out how you're a pretentious retard
>>730605361really me
>>730604098>it was a qudsissy all alongohhh nonono ahahaha, too funny
How was psi buffed, exactly? The last time I played it was severely nerfed.
>>730605135To be fair he's cucking himself from success and riches, all good.
>>730605368Its a vastly ignored and vastly overlooked in practice feat for the majority of players. I took it once as a mere gag on a pure non crafter character and that thing alone made shit insanely good even with mid looted grenades and shop inventories.>>730605416Anon, nobody really likes Styg. He's okay at the best of times, and is an ignorant weird designer at the worst with a penchant for being kind of lame and not reading any kind of suggestion ever. There is no emotional attachment to Styg from almost anyone here at all, and if you're endlessly posting about it thinking you're owning anyone, you're being a pathetic dipshit who doesn't understand he's not defended because he's likeable, you're attacked because you're pathetic.If you don't play a game, and say its beneath you, but you also spent like 300 hours beating the game on the hardest difficulty with like 4 builds and then after abandoning it, crawl back into a thread of the game to sperg out, that's objectively unhinged and pathetic. Its the gaming equivalent of stalking your Ex on Facebook and slandering her after you divorced and she took the kids.As actual criticisms, Foundry sucks, most uniques are still dogshit, most vendors are mid, the speed pace is weird, many psionic gangs are overtuned, the crawler superboss went without an oddity for actual years, the plot is kinda shit, Six is awful and things only got great with Expedition because even before that a lot of the game was good but never great. This game ain't perfect, but you are pathetic screaming for a throne of a difficulty of a game you forsake and now are yelling from the streets like a tweaker. Get real Pipeworker.
>>730605560https://www.stygiansoftware.com/underrail/devlogs/74-10-year-anniversary-update.html
>>730605552Underrail wishes it had a fraction of the quality and care games like Qud or CDDA have, it's already a ridiculously archaic and poorly designed game on its own but when you put it next to those it's hard to not feel second hand embarassment for Styg and his dicksuckers' overly inflated egos.Fucking Shadow of the Wyrm is a better realized and more ambitious game, fucking URR in its still severely unfinished state makes it look like a joke.>>730605839You're literally the only one here who's defending Styg and his shit decisions and trying to pick a fight with me, so don't try to play the holier than thou card, we know you're one of the resident shills from /ug/, also because only you people are still bothering with this game.>that's objectively unhinged and pathetic.No, you're just defending your master because you feel attacked after people like me saw the latest shitfit and came here to laugh at the game and your downright embarrassing attempts at justifying what we saw happening for years, with the anniversary patch being an even more embarrassing shitshow than the PSI patch.I'm pathetic for having played the game extensively and pointing out how Styg is a petty idiot who actively fucks over his own userbase to please a select handful of sycophants like you and get glazed in his tiny discord server?Get real anon, everyone who played Underrail since back in the days knows your and Styg's game, people are never going to stop making fun of this deranged serbian's shitfits, especially when Infusion will come out and bomb after he managed to burn what little good will he managed to get with the first game, and he will continue making everything worse with his hysterical no fun allowed mentality.Me, I'll still be there to laugh at you.
So then what version do I play before all these shitty nerfs made everything unfun? Does it include the first big DLC?
>>730543720I've been playing this for the past two days. What's the nerf? Right now I feel like I'm abusing the game by just buying space habitats from the other factions.
>>730606863the version before the current one
>have the version before the psi nerf>have the version before the 10th anniversary assrape with the dev console activeFeels good being a GOG chad.
>>730606745>Get real anon, everyone who played Underrail since back in the days knows your and Styg's game, people are never going to stop making fun of this deranged serbian's shitfits, especially when Infusion will come out and bomb after he managed to burn what little good will he managed to get with the first game, and he will continue making everything worse with his hysterical no fun allowed mentality.Bre, I don't care about Styg as a person and I am surely not acting in his best interests. I play his game when I have the time, and I don't engage with Dominating ever. I laugh at you sperging out with your free time being what you think I am, because its funny, but the Dom nerds are literally just the autistic 1% and he threw them more pain. You aren't That Guy, stop trying to pretend you are.You don't have the skills for current Dom, again that's fine. I don't care about it and find it a weird lame sadist club, you do care and now you have a chip on your shoulder for weird shit thinking I'm in on some game when I could not be assed. The game is a clearly unfinished imperfect developmental baby where you can literally see the development changes like layers of rock on a cliff face, and I am not going to be kind to Infusion, nor am I going to vouch for Styg when you are right, he has a weird shitfit sometimes.But this IS unhinged and pathetic. You got burned off a difficulty and now stalk some threads of a game you no longer play declaring a weird Jyhad on some weird serbian thinking he made CBT the official difficulty when he clearly never did, and thinking everyone laughing at you is a shill. Nigger I shittalk the weirdo serbian myself, I got game complaints, you're just still a weird video game ex stalker.
>>730607257Does Gog keep the old versions? I have the Gog version too but I updated the games before reading about the nerf.
>>730607484No idea, I keep the installers on my archive drive
>>730607257the console got updated to the latest versionhttps://github.com/klowd92/underrail_developers_console/releases/tag/v1.3.0.17
Just like I've said a million times before.I will never play oddity XP, nor above normal difficulty. And I don't recommend you do either.The fun and the fascination of Underrail for me never came from the austic character building or even the draconian learning curve (even if they are ultimately positives of the game). No, what Underrail in my humble opinion delivers the best is sheer intrguing atmosphere. Plot set in a setting that is mysterious and interesting that makes you want to uncover more at every opportunity even when the world around you is hostile, dangerous, utterly bizarre and depressing. Getting to explore Lemuria, finally finding myself in Abyssal Station 0, discovering the Shadowlith. or the Oculus for example were some of the coolest moments I've had playing this game.Having said that however, I do admit wholeheartedly that doing some of these changes like the health increase on harder difficulties or boosting the crafting requirements to quite an absurd level or just overall nerfing builds 10 years into the game's life cycle is not only silly, but bizarre, if not spiteful. Obviously I can't see into Styg's head and I hope he hasn't gone derailed (pun intended); but if some of those Discord screenshots posted earlier in this thread are anything to go by, I'm not particularly optimistic.
>>730607387>I don't care about it and find it a weird lame sadist clubIs that why you're still ferociously whiteknighting Styg and attacking me for pointing out the obvious? DOM is a "sadist" club when it's the only difficulty level that is not a complete snoozefest, although for the wrong reasons?I supposedly don't have the "skills" for DOM despite clearing it multiple times before and after both the PSI patch and Heavy Duty?Again, I know your game, I used to post in the general for years as well before having enough of your mental gymnastics over a mediocre game that got steadily worse through the years, I've seen you and your goody two shoes act over and over and you're not fooling anyone.You say you shittalk Styg yourself but then immediately attack and belittle me or anyone else when they do the same, because you're the actually unhinged and pathetic goody two shoes here, especially when all of your fallacious claims about the game have been utterly dismantled and you've started coping by personally attacking me rather than my arguments, you're a deluded retard with severe stockholm syndrome.
>>730608178So Styg made the game even harder? Based, time for another playthrough.
>>730605839>most uniques are still dogshitA lot of unique weapons can still be useful but the unique armors are almost universally terrible and styg never bothered to buff any of them. Reworking them to be viable would actually be a very nice mod to have if styg's head weren't so far up his ass >>730605135
>>730597212Are there any Slavs that aren't miserable?
>>730608609Not.slav
>>730584998>Multiplayer works>Break multiplayer when adding a bunch of shit nobody really asked for>Take a year to get multiplayer working again>Add zero new content in the meantimeZomboid has got to have one of the least competent development teams out there.It's relatively popular, you'd think they could either hire someone who knows what the fuck they're doing or they could have learned software development at some point in the last 15 years.
>>730552073>sssethSnakes talking about the third son of Adam and Eve
>>730552242Me with Fear and Hunger
>>730607257Anon I...
>>730608408>skill issueYou literally don't have the skills now, by your own admission, your metas got got and now you can't beat it. I don't whiteknight, I call Dom uninteresting garbage, and you're still here malding.>general shpielI have literally never posted in any general ever. Styg is a weirdo abrassive egotistical idiot who ignores feedback, and you're a stalker Ex on facebook still. All three are true at the same time.You're malding about a game you don't play and say is beneath you in a thread, while having already been "suckered" by the game, whining and complaining about difficulty because now its over your skills, while people more skilled than you beat Dom without an issue with better builds skills and technique. You haven't played at all and make a big show about going to BG3 and you've now spent like 2 hours here arguing with me when I'm just telling you that you suck and the game is flawed and for you to actually let go then. You are malding at the shadows of a barely socialized balding serbian man in his 40s with a wife and kids with a flawed as hell game, yelling about difficulty being inaccessible and shit when you supposedly swore off the game, now ranting on 4chan about how even BG3 is better. Styg is a weirdo, and so are you for acting like this.
>>730543478>developer hates his core player basethat's every game developer
only silly billies play on dom.
>>730552242why would you want to play a game that deliberately wastes your time, has a terrible story and terrible balance?there's a reason no one talks about this game, it's made by some autistic fuck who doesn't even know what he wants to do with his games other than have players suck his dong the entire time
>>730543478>get to deep caverns>instantly lose all motivation and quitThis shit fucking sucks
>>730609450i'm just addicted to the catharsis of beating it
>>730609450>I do not balance for dom>adds more HP bloat to dom in last update>most of the nerfs directlly affect dom the most
>>730567781the game isn't fun to build in or even theory craft, terrible UI and you're forced to do all the math yourself since the game doesn't combine anything at allit's got a "preferred" way to play which essentially destroys any semblance of progression for rummaging around abandoned file cabinets for XP
The only thing i disagree with is the nerf to cheap shots' incapacitation chance affecting non-light weapons. Nerf knives/unarmed, go for it as this feat would be a must-pick on those builds even just as the bonus crit damage, but leave sword/hammer out of it, hell even give hammer a bigger chance ~30% considering the AP costs(even after pummel buff)
>>730576653the game feels incredibly slow even at max speeds as well
>>730609668>Refuses to balance worth shit or play it>doubles health and adds crit chance to every single enemy for shits and giggles with like 6 lines of code>Dom piggies eat that shit up and get happy about itHonestly pretty based
>>730552242Underrail's difficulty is way overblown, and the people complaining the most about balance changes are usually ones that play the game on Dominating. The difficulty of the game mainly comes from encounter design and enemies having some weird gimmick like normal than higher DT, stun or incapacitation ability, or deal damage that goes through regular armor, basically shit you might not be currently prepared for, rather than some insurmountable build check. The main thing to realize about Underrail is that it's a game focused on CC, so anything that lets you instantly nuke or incapacitate enemies is invaluable.Just get AGI 6 for Sprint and DEX 6 for Grenadier. Every build benefits from extra movement and having grenades for AoE DMG and CC. Then max out your main weapon stat and get enough stat points for feats you plan on getting later. Get enough STR if you're planning to use heavier weapons, or max out DEX if you use knives, fists or pistols. Stealth skill is great for all builds including otherwise loud ones that don't go full heavy armor, since it allows you to pick your battles, and you get the first turn automatically regardless of initiative if you're the one to start combat.
>>730590746He's a control freak with a discord community huffing his farts whenever he does dumb shit. The only time people talk about this game is to say dumb shit about the recent garbage story they release or how they nerfed ANOTHER playstyle into the ground.
somebody post screenshots of Styg begging that retard Sam Hyde to play his game, hes such fucking embarrassing loser
>>730604295>start putting beartraps and caltrops down>suddenly every encounter is 100% easier due to retards standing on dumb shit to find me around a corner where i then bonk them with my sledgei never finished the game, couldn't get into the story and i wouldn't even begin to be able to tell you what the story was
>>730610594Average Foundry speedrun be like
>>730609191My "metas" didn't get shit, you can still mindlessly beartrap and caltrop your way through DOM as usual, warcrimes are a tiny bit less effective than they were before and...three pointer is actually somewhat required now, kinda, I guess? Underrail never was and still isn't a hard game, it's an extremely tedious game that got even more tedious because that's what Styg likes, that's his entire design philosophy by his own admission, to annoy players as much as possible.My favorite build ever was max INT energy gun crafter so if anything I'm one of the extremely lucky few who came out of this patch unscathed were I to replay the game, only thing that changed is that now I have to pay more feat taxes for crafting in a build that had plenty of extra feat slots I'd spend on other QoL fit like maxed out Disassemble (so I would be free from repair kit weight and associated busywork), you still have no idea what you're talking about.>I have literally never posted in any general ever.Which is why you keep using images posted in the underrail general and the same passive aggressive styg apologisms posted ad nauseam in the underrail general for years, again, who the fuck do you think you're fooling?Do you have any shred of self awareness or dignity?Do you think I do not remember the olympics tier mental gymnastics you and your ilks engaged to when the PSI patch dropped and tried to defend Styg again while calling anyone who complained about it bad at the game?I'd tell you to take a hard, long look in the mirror (if you have any) before trying to judge others but I'm already aware I'm wasting my breath on a clueless, lying retard, so I'll leave it at this.
>>730610884>Which is why you keep using images posted in the underrail general and the same passive aggressive styg apologisms posted ad nauseam in the underrail general for years, again, who the fuck do you think you're fooling?I got these from other people. You aren't that smart.All your yapping ends up being you can't play and can't do and now seethe boo hoo. You try and speak a lot and say nothing as you mald to a game you don't play at all but are now on hour 3 of investing time into. I mean kudos I guess, you are consistently pathetic.
>>730609450>DOM is retarded>*adds content exclusive to DOM*Least contrarian Serb.
Is there such a thing as a full facetank build for Dominating?I imagine that was nerfed ages ago if it ever existed
>>730611180Yeah, that broken english, extreme seething and severe cognitive dissonance could only come from a certain kind of person.
>>730610660your caltrops? mines? bro????
>>730611451Too much extra work, it needs to be fast and simple.I gas them and the ones who make it through get shot.
>>730611556Your screenshot is the opposite of fast and simple. You need like 10 of traps here at all.
>>730611797I use speedhax to set them up, it takes less than a minute.Also mines cost too much in mats and requirements. Caltrops need throwing to land where you want them to.
>>730609450It's pretty obvious that Styg himself is obsessed with DOM the most. I'm willing to wager that if DOM didn't exist neither would most of these "balance" patches.
>>7306068631.2.0.23 was the last one before the anniversary update (1.3.0.15) and both DLCs existed long before.Current version is 1.3.0.17
>>730567781On normal the game is pretty forgiving, I actually managed to get like 2/3 of the main game + DLC with a shittty tank build. (I had to abuse a lot of quicksave to basically learn the correct way to start every encounter, but that is more on my part for having a crap build). As long as you don't something like jack of all trades like I did the difficulty is okayish. I didn't finish the game tough, it was gettig boring to do the same every time for like 20 hours in (flashbang > granade > spam AR / Shotgun > take cover > reload > repeat)
>>730611991You are definitely playing the wrong game. If you employ this much autism for a single player semi-rpg then you should pick another game.
>>730612210Noice, I got this standalone installer from gog a year or so ago and just finished another playthrough of the game. No heavy duty, no anniversary autism.
>>730544153gamer cattle really thinks this, lmao#if DEBUG--le coed#endif
>Styg of all people turns woke
>>730612375You can't enjoy this game without autism
>>730612478>you will respect the tranny pro-noumsh-How could this happen?!>you will respect the female gypsyGuess the writing was on the wall.
>>730612791It's a major loss for the chud crowd, at least they still have factorio/rimworld
>>730613387>he doesn't know
>>730613628????
>>730612478what did he do
>>730611991If you resort to using hacks why not just console them all dead
>>730599231if this is true why havent he nerfed traps/caltrops/nades yet to oblivion? They still triviliaze the shit out of the game. Even the gas nerf wasnt enough
>>730610884>you can still mindlessly beartrap and caltrop your way through DOMOf course, but you don't have to if you don't want to. They're by no means mandatory if you're a skilled player and your character is strong enough.Why are you so angry that the game gives you multiple tools and solutions? Such an ironic post.
I think the reason why he hasnt nerfed throwing too badly, it is because of how many retarded overwhelming outnumbering encounters the game has. Sometimes it feels i was supposed to have a party of 4 people. Which would make a lot of builds unreasonably harder with quick save and quickloading simply because you lost the initiative check>go second>get stunlocked by lunatics>get stunlocked by psi bugs>get stunlocked by crawlersStunbreaks/stun resistance should have been more common
>>730610660Where's Dan?
>*blocks you are path*Ive never seen a dev spend 10 years making a game and then decide that people have been playing the game wrong this entire time and just starts nerfing/removing shit players like to do.
>>730614182>wasting time is skillAverage Styg apologist
>>730615304could you give some examples?
>>730543478>Name a more autistic developer than Styg, you literally can't.Nerd Commando Game Studios.>literally who?Some slav faggot that I found by looking up Underrail build guides.He tried his hand at game development himself, released TWO (2) games on Steam which were horrid, and since his shitty games bombed hard he nuked his entire youtube channel out of spite.Every time I see Underrail I hear his retarded slow voice and heavy accent, because I've associated him with the game.Love the game though, I hate party-based RPGs so it felt really good being alone
>>730614415>They're by no means mandatory if you're a skilled player>RPG>SkillThey're not mandatory if you play a select handful of builds...that reliy on other crutches that are effectively the same exact thing like flashbangs, nets etc.
>>730615515there were lots of ways to cheese bosses like moon lord, and they nerfed all of them by making the bosses hit you somehow
>>730615515This image is a pretty good qrdbut the most egregious one is one of the bosses bypassing several game mechanics after already being added to the game simply because its the OC of the dev's wife.You also have bizarre shit like making waterbolt unobtainable until its long past its powerspike. For 10 years or so players would maybe get lucky and see it spawn before its respective boss but then the devs decided that was too OP apparently.
>>730575380>this game and its lore is boringI felt the same way, maybe it gets better later but from the first few hours I played I just could not bring myself to care. Game was a terrible purchase and wish I could have refunded.
>>730615515Drop rates being drastically reduced from mobs if you don't use the correct biome torches, but I think he changed that because the backlash to it was huge.
I remember hearing that the Darkest Dungeon dev would do shit like this all the time, constantly nerfing characters because they made the single player offline game "unfair".
>>730610660Fucking rockniggers completely destroyed my knife build. I barely won after using enough gas grenades and traps to make Auschwitz look like a theme park.
>>730610660With hard mode on, I finally saw Dan using a fucking sledge on the rockies after he spent all his ammo. It was insane shit.
>>730553660the DLC is so good. For deep caverns I finished it once and now whenever I get the urge to do a run I finish it at the end of the Tchort academy
>>730616412They did suck all the fun of their game but see: >>730550326
>>730599231well then dont publish whatever combos (you) find. its that simple. age old axiom from PoE land
>>730617653>just don't talk about the game broLmao
>>730616642Bringing a knife to a gun fight is one of the coolest builds. Too bad it's suboptimal compared to just sniping everything since robots don't care about knife players.
