>$950 starting priceIs this within your affordable range?
>>730553858sure, but at that price why not just build a pc?
PC keks lost
>>730553927cos you'll need $950 only for your ram
>>730553927>build a pc>950
>>730553858Are we going to ignore ram prices and pretend like there's absolutely no fucking reason for it being almost $1000 now?
>>730553858Already debunked...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1rmC5WyJyQ
>>730553858So why would anyone buy this thing thats 400 more than a PS5 and cant play GTA 6?
just release the damn controller alreadywe all know what limited amount of boxes they made before ai slop doomed us all are just going to be scalped and will end up rotting on ebay for 2 grand a pop.
>HP OMEN - 16L Gaming Desktop - Intel Core Ultra 7 265F 2025 - 16GB DDR5 Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB GDDR7 - 1TB SSD - Panda MetalThis is $1100 at best buy right now. How does it compare other than being 1tb?
>>730553963>counts all chinese and indian steam usersI can manipulate statistics too
>>730553927>just build a pcAre you from 10 years ago? PCs with acceptable specs for contemporary games aren't under $1000 USD anymore
hmphh I could buy 2 playstations. or 1 playstation and 1 xbox
I have only gamed on a dell laptop I got in 2013, I own no consoles. I have no knowledge in building or tinkering with a pc. I aim to play videogames on a semi-regular basis. I represent over 70% of the consumer market. Is the Gabecube worth my time and money, /v/?
>>730554207what are you upgrading from?
>>730553858>leakedYou spearchuckers couldn't even leak its announcement, fuck off with "MUH LEAKS" after a literal month of fake Half-Life 3 copium.
>>730554406I'd just buy a steamdeck 2bh. You can still hook it up to a monitor and if you dont play a lot of games the steamdeck doesnt need that much power. Can still emulate more or less everything
Considering RAM prices are in the shitter, $950 is pretty reasonable for a gaming PC that's stronger than PS5 Pro.
>>730553963>>730553996>>730554278https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pNWnpthis build is about on par with le steam machine for $800. it should play all modern games at 1080p>muh integrated graphicssteam machine uses integrated graphics too.
>>730554836The gabecube is not overall stronger than a ps5 pro, if anything its weaker than a base ps5 in real world performance
I think I might go Iphone 18 next year instead of android. what will I regret?
the leak comes from some third party reseller that valve already ships shit directly to customers inmeds
It's over
>>730553858if you are UPGRADING from console, yes, not having to pay to play online and PC games % deals is already good enough for 99% of console players
>>730555165The problem is that it has less VRAM than a base PS5 and is double the price. Free to play multiplayers dont even require PS plus on PS5. PS store sales are nearly identical to Steam sales as well.
>>730554883>steam machine uses integrated graphics tooThat doesn't mean anything by itself. The Steam machine's integrated graphics might be more powerful
>>730554939The cpu in the steam cube runs circles around the ps5. While the gpu in the steam cube is ~15% slower, it's trivial to compensate for that when you can adjust the graphics settings.
>>730554267True. I have a 20 year Steam account and never did the hardware surveys. I never treat the data from that as reliable when it's fundamentally voluntary. Older and Newer crowds have a mix of internet users that habitually refrain from disclosing any information as well.
>>730554939>The gabecube is not overall stronger than a ps5 pro, if anything its weaker than a base ps5 in real world performance
>>730554406It really depends what happens in the future. I will tell you that right now, based on current pricing, you can easily get a PC or even laptop that is better specced than the steam cube for just a bit more money. All you have to do is wait for big sales from the major retailers like costco and bestbuy.
>>730554883>steam machine uses integrated graphics too.Are you fucking retarded?
>>730555263Not sure where you're getting that mess of information. The PS5 is commonly known as running essentially a Ryzen 3700x and an RX 6700 or XT version
>>730554267Well yea retard, they're Steam users, of course they're counted. The fuck dumbass point were you even trying to make?
999$ isn’t even that much. That’s only one month of rent. It’s like you damn chuds want developers to starve. These people deserve your money for putting together such an AWESOME gamer machine. This thing will be able to play new games for year to come. Maybe even some at mid settings. It’s amazing that you damn gamers always want everything for free, you’re so damn entitled that you can’t understand some people have Indian relatives to feed. Imagine if they were black, you’d probably live their BBC. We are NOT lowering the price ever, so stop asking. We don’t stock these on shelves so it will be easy to charge 999$ for a digital license machine for five years, long after it is done being able to play new games on low settings. If you guys want to save money, just get a PlayStation. Stop being racist.
>>730555527https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVO5bUFww0
>>730555359So then why cant a 1060 run Black Ops 7 at upscaled 4k/120 fps like a PS5 can?
I got a minisforum b550 minipc for like $500 that is the same size and could play some AAA games. That was like 4 years ago, you could probably get something even better now. Yeah 1k for a shitcube sounds like too much
$1k is a terrible price. You can unironically get better PCs for CHEAPER. Just need to wait for black friday or a big costco sale or something. The gabencube is only worth it if you value the form factor imo, and even then I think there are chink mini PCs that are just as good.
>>730553858The amount of effort I have to go to to get a $1000 PC at better performance + mobility makes it for me
>>730554883>steam machine uses integrated graphics too.It doesn't tho
>>730553963The nose says it all
>>730555583>if [hard statistical data] why can't [irrelevant anecdote]
>>730555996i think you might actually be low iq. were you ever diagnosed with a learning disability?
>>730555262they are actually less powerful. 760m vs 780m.
>>730555996Here is your anecdotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lErbld3muKM
What specs is the PS6 estimated to have?
>>730555754>$1000>To play games worse than a PS5I love my pc but that's bullshit. You should just stay on console and wait until 2030 to build your pc. Save your money for more important things. 4years might feel like an eternity for you kids but $1000 on bad hardware that will be completely obsolete in 4 years is a BAD waste of money. A nice gun for $900 will last you an easy 20yrs. You could buy $900 worth of Bitcoin or XRP and in 4years, get more money back. There's so many great things that you can buy for $1000 that will still be great or greater in 4yrs. A retarded mini PC isn't one of them.
>>730554267Russians too there are like 15% of those subhumans on steam alone
>>730556260nobody buys pc components as an investment, they buy them because they need a pc
>>730556146>>730556216>but look, we have high fps with dogshit checkerboard upscalingwhat does this have to do with literally anything? how am I the retard? lmao
>>730555024Yes, but that price was leaked from Poland and Valve is notorious for upmarking prices in 3rd world countries. A Steam Deck OLED costs as much as a car in Mexico, while they're only 550 bucks here.
>>730556441You can bet your ass the steam machine would have to use upscaling the same way if not even more so. And the 1060 cant even push frames like that at those resolutions.
>>730556470>Valve is notorious for upmarking prices in 3rd world countries.no they aren't. they don't even sell in those countries, that's all just third party retailers making it up
>>730553858Hard pass. I max out at around $600-700
>>730556441wait i think i know you. were you the guy that, when i started talking about driver overhead, you were completely fucking baffled and started asking what i was talking about?
>>730556540dude, the resolution isn't native. it doesn't fucking matter. your comparison is pointless. how are you not getting this?>>730556610no
>>730556658Are you aware that we know what hardware is in the ps5?
>>730556437>they buy them because they need a pcAm I retarded cause I thought we were talking about the STEAM MACHINE. Who the fuck buys consoles and steam machines for work and business? Explain it to me in detail.
>>730556658Nearly nothing runs native resolution with that level of fidelity these days, and certainly not a 1060
>>730553858>third party site leaksFake and Gay
>>730556698steam machine is just a pc with a funny case.
>>730556260>Investments>Talks about guns, bitcoin and computer parts You know less than me.
>>730556747Yeah, these retards don't know what they're saying. I got a 9070xt which is a new mid grade card that came out this year and it cannot handle 80fps at 4k. Most games hover around 50FPS 4k so all these niggas are rich with RTX 5090s or they're lying out the ass.
>>730555263CPU isn't really the bottleneck with gaming these days, gramps.
>>730556260>2030Nah, shit will be getting reset that year senpai
>>730553858For me this is NOT within the affordable range! I was hoping for around $400 with a controller and if not I will just take my business elsewhere!
>>730556905Two of those 3 things you mentioned hold their value over years. Do you think that includes computer parts? Tell the classes anon, don't be shy. You keep being a counter faggot but you never provide proof.
niggas on /v/ really spending nearly $1000 to play games at 1080pfuckin disgusting
>>730557072You know less than me, stop posting.
>>730556693doesn't matter without real world testing, with grounded, native resolution and painstaking settings matching. whatever series the card is or tflops or stupid shit doesn't matter. what matters is how it actually runs games>>730556747>Nearly nothing runs native resolution with that level of fidelity these daysbut the point is using upscaled resolution in any comparison is not even applicable if the goal is wanting to know how powerful the hardware actually is. it's not applicable even if you were comparing it to a newer card running DLSS.>>730556958you're the retard agreeing with someone gloating about a ps5 running 4k 120fps because of upscaling slop. a ps5 that loses to a fucking 1060 in old benchmarks
>>730553858$950 for a machine that can't even run most online games. Steam OS needs improvement.
>>730557000>Nah, shit will be getting reset that year senpaiYeah, that's my point. You lose nothing by waiting. They don't give a fuck if you don't buy anything because they are selling to Ai data centers. All these tech companies are loudly proclaiming; Fuck. You.Don't buy consoles, don't buy pc's; if you already have something. Best play to make is to save you money or put it towards anything better, then wait for the markets to correct.
>>730553927Budget build as actual budget you need to spend $2000 for a 1080p machineFor a 120 fps 1440p you are already going over 3k
>>730557252https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxuXdgI59lo
>>730553858I don't need one, but I might buy one anyway to have a secondary PC to play with as a dedicated Linux box.
Why did they opt for the Gabecube? Why not just shit out a range of pre-builts with a variety of components and price points?PC gaymen isn't like consoles and they of all people should understand this.
>>730553858If you can't afford that, you're doing something wrong
>>730557575Having a set standard gives a goal for developers to aim for, much like with the Steam Deck.
>>730557252>you're the retard agreeing with someone gloating about a ps5 running 4k 120fps because of upscaling slopYou care too much about nothing. About something you can't control, you sound like an utter faggot and pain to be around with in real life. Who Cares if consoles can't do real 4K 60fps? How does it affect you or me in life? Let Timmy enjoy his apple. See what I mean? Go touch grass. People think you're gay cause you don't.>I like my fake 4k 60fps>NOOOOO, that's not REAL reeeeeeeeYou're both awful in my eyes.
>>730557521that's just not true
>>730553858LolRoflI haven't bought anything else they've already put out and I won't be buying this neither.
$600 was my MAX for a system like this because it can't really run most games (Apex, Battlefield, etc.) I expect it at a discount on console prices not a premium lol
>>730557695a centrist faggot like you doesnt deserve to use the man that scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing in the 1966 city football championship game versus fictional Andrew Johnson High School as a reaction pic
>>730557695I care when retards are either painfully ignorant or maliciously lying through their teeth.
>>730557621Devs already target console range, high end, and low end. The field is plenty covered. Doing this doesn't really change anything besides lock someone into a system that becomes outdated before they even bought it.
>>730557934Targeting a console spec means little when it comes to running on PC, and specifically on Proton. They want to be able to say: "Certified for the Steam Box" or whatever. There was a time in the 80's when home PCs were fairly standardized, and if you had a given PC you had a pretty good idea if software was going to work well on it or not. Then in the late 80's and into the 90's everything went to hell and there was no telling what was going to work and what wasn't. From the 00's onward it feels like it's pretty easy to guess whether something will work well on your hardware or not, but that's not enough for normies.
>>730557881>a centrist faggot like you doesnt deserve to use the manBeing chill about things I can't control doesn't make me centrist. It makes me sane. If you got a good pc or console before the price hike none sense, you're in a good spot. >>730557890>I care when retards are either painfully ignorant or maliciously lying through their teeth.Keep mocking and yelling at strangers online, I'm sure it'll change in time.
>>730556346you're cranky because they keep beating you at dota, aren't you
Whoa, so this is PC Gaming huh...
>>730558123>They want to be able to say: "Certified for the Steam Box" or whateverThats a fair point and yeah I could run any game in the 90s one w/e dogshit machine my parents had. I just don't know who the audience for this is. Are they trying to just pull consolefags? I can't imagine actual PC Master Race members desiring one of these.
>>730553858>some 3rd party reseller accidentally put up a placeholder pageOMG $950 CONFIRMED!!!! LETS MAKE 300 ARTICLES AND TECHTUBER VIDEOS ABOUT THIS!!!i fucking hate the modern internet
Let's speak of more important thingsDo we have an idea of the new controller's price and/or release date?
>>730553858>leak>pricing from a Polish retailerValve only sells direct. Resellers will have a minimum of 30% markup.
>>730554278There are no games worth playing that require a powerful system.
>>730553858It was retarded of Gaben to make this guaranteed flop instead of a steam deck 2 now we'll never get one
>>730553858It's too much, $500 would have been the sweet spot, anally ravaging Xbox and the console market. $700 is good enough for the enthusiast gamer, and I would have gotten one on the used market for 600 bucks to turn into the ultimate Cube with a RAM and 4TB SSD upgrade. 1k is too much, I can get a gaymen laptop for that price, it will have a 5060, maybe even a 5070 and it will be infinitely more useful.Such a shame because as an eck' owner I really wanted a GabeCube, a streamlined all in one box you can hook up to your TV to play your steam library sounds great
>>730553858It is, but I don't see the point in paying that much for a system with no recent worthwhile exclusives.
>>730559313pretty much my thoughts on this
I'm not above paying that much for a computer, I spent more than that on my computer. But not at those specs.Unironically want to see what Microslop is cooking up.
>>730553858These niggers think they're xbox what the fuck is this shit lmao
Funny watching PC farts defending a fixed hardware that you cant upgrade console
>>730553858If you think valve was going to stock these with retailers in shithole countries on the butthurt belt, I don't know what to tell you
>>730553858Yes, but I already dropped 3k on a build before RAM started skyrocketing.
>>730555517Only white people buy games so we're the only one matters
>>730559663Nu PC gamers are just disillusioned console gamers
>>730559902Most white people arent on steam and more whites are on xbox
>>730556206The Steam Machine uses a mobile RX 7600, its a discrete GPU. You are so utterly confused its comical.
>>730555359the 1060 can't run shit anymore meanwhile everything runs on the ps5your cherry picked 6 year old graph of dmc5 doesn't mean anything anymore
>>730558623$75-100 is my guess.
>>730556226128GB Ram2 TB SSD M2 with optional space for externalsoptional ps2/dvd/bluray/ps3/ps1 support optional ejaculator with semen collector sponsored by Tenga™optional vr headset and female/male body with digital graphics overlay optional GTA6 silencer+red dot sight
>>730556226its apparently some insane amount of VRAM same with the new xbox
>>730560207anon i have a gtx1070 it still runs everything
>>730553963And the vast majority of PS5 players play FIFA, Roblox y Minecraft which doesn't even take advantage of the PS5's powerThose metrics don't matter; they'll always be a laughing stock for everyone
>>730560739>anon i have a gtx1070 it still runs everythingAnon, I have a 1070 and it doesn't run "everything", at least not at a decent framerateI don't care because I prefer older games but still
So £950? That's not going to go down well if its around a ps5 spec and I would hate to see what frame will cost.
>>730561158name a game that doesnt its a handful at most
>>730557047You are not the target audience.
>>730560145the mobile gpus are not discrete, they are integrated into the same die as the cpu. it's the same thing modern consoles use.
>>730561469Shut the fuck up, you confused little brown child. The GPU is a separate piece of silicon, a separate package, it is a discrete GPU. Don't bother posting when you're this laughably ignorant about everything involved here.
>>730561469>the mobile gpus are not discreteyes they are, even mobile laptop gpus are discrete and the cpu usually has its own integrated gpu
>>730556260>To play games worse than a PS5And to browse the net in a non-shit way. And to customize your experience. And to emulate. And to put other things than Linux on there if you really want to. And to essentially be a portable enough box of a device in small form factor to slip into almost any desk or living space with ease. You're looking at it like a 1:1 console, but the reality is the price is the PC tax because this thing is more than a console by leaps and bounds. If you ONLY want to use it as a console and your Steam library isn't fuckhuge then yeah, there's a problem in terms of that regard, but if you're someone in for a PC, this thing is hardly bad and the price is frankly expected.You have absolutely no idea how retarded PC pricing was even before the RAM crisis versus consoles. To build a budget PC when I already had an 850w power supply and an RTX 2080 Ti hand-me-down was about $1k for the rest of the parts and a Zen 5 CPU in the 9600K.
>>730554982nothing it's a phone they all do phone things the same
>>730556470are you stupid? that's pesos. 15k pesos is not 15k american dollars.
>>730561319>name a game that doesnt Any AAA game that came out in 2025 or later. Unless you think using upscaling like FSR is acceptable
>>730561840I just saw half of this board lose their collective goddamn minds about better DLSS and framegen at the cost of more performance overhead, upscaling is the expectation now
Ha. Defend that Valvefags.
>>730562392Can you build a PC under $1k?
>>730562157>DLSS The 1070 doesn't even support DLSS, you have to use inferior poorfag solutions like FSR and Lossless Scaling
>>730562430Why would I bother when consoles exist? Computers are for browsing the Internet and work. Video games are for controllers.
>>730562549Hey James
>>730562638If you mean the AVGN, then truer words were never spoken.
>>730553963>third world subhumans are indeed poorShocking Im really surprised.
>>730561840name 1
>When I said I’m disappointed it isn’t going to follow a console pricing model, where its subsided by the fact that manufacturer is going to be taking 30% of every game sold on it over the lifespan of this thing, because I feel that would be a more meaningful product, they asked what I meant by console price and I said $500. Nobody said anything, but the energy in the room wasn’t great.Kek, even the doomers were predicting this thing would be in the $650-800 range.
>Anti shills are STILL regurgitating a czech retailer that has zero affiliation with Valve
>>730562743Most EU5 gamesEven Marvel Rivals needs upscaling if you want a decent framerate and "resolution" on a 1070
>>730553858It'll be $650-$700, stop looking at third world retail shitholes as confirmation over anything that happens here in American, faggot.
>>730553858If you exclude china, brazil and russia from the survey results the average PC specs go way up.
>>730563159still runs it
>>730561158>>730561840>>730563159You talk about decent resolution, and the vast majority now play at 1440p balanced, which is native 720pMany games run and look good with FSR 3. On my 1660, I tested Silent Hill 2 and F, Battlefield 6, and ARC Riders, and they all look good in 1080p quality and 60 fps with not drops. I added others like Fortnite, but that one will obviously be well optimized since it's Epic focuspic rel is Silent Hill F running at 1080p in FSR 3 Quality mode, medium graphics settings, at 60 fps without frame generation, on my gtx 1660s
>>730559528It'll be $1400 while this will be $650-$700. The next gen Xbox will be worse as Microsoft will block other OSs, possibly won't have pre-installed storefronts/game launchers meaning you'll have to install those, and will block emulators. It'll be a locked down Windows PC with backwards compatibility with previous Xboxes but it will work like the Xbox One's and Xbox Series's BC while having Ads all over the Xbox full screen experience. It won't be worth the money.
>>730562468see >>730563563I also have Lossless Scaling, but it's not necessary unless you want to go beyond 60 fps and have a 120hz monitor
>>730554883>1080p
>>730553858yea but i don't need onei am interested to see how much performance they can squeeze out of it through low overhead and optimizations. mite b cool
>>730554939>real world performancethere are benchmarks already? where?
>>7305562161440p is 4k now?
>>730554097Because it can play any of the 120,000 games on Steam
>>730564674Not just SteamAnd it can also play practically any single player game for free, including every system that's decently emulated
>>730556470>Valve is notorious for upmarking prices in 3rd world countriesthose are 3rd party sellers that are importing those and selling it to you
Sadly, nobody is going to be cutting Valve any deals on components or manufacturing in this economy. Once the RAM shortage/price spike happened I knew the Steam Machine was dead on arrival. Horrible timing but nothing much you can do about that
>>730564674It can’t play a single new release at decent settingsGo back to India you fucking nigger
>>730562742>>730554267>Userbase size doesn't matter when it doesn't fit my narrativeYou fags will be here on the steam machine launch predicting gorillion sales.
>>730565224You know saying shit like this just makes it obvious you don't regularly play games and have zero frame of reference of system requirements.Like an indian marketer you're desperately trying to project onto other people.
>>730563171>$650-$700That's still not great. PCfags will know that they can save a little bit extra and just piece together a stronger budget build for $800, which would be fully upgradeable instead of being a static little cube. Consolefags also aren't going to be willing to pay PS5 Pro prices for a cube that can't play Madden and Fifa/FCAnything more than $500 and it literally might as well not exist
>>730554097>fails 36th certificationConsoles can't play GTA6.
>>730566037I'll be great in a couple of months when Sony and Microsoft raise the prices of their current consoles. It's going to be even better when the PS6 and next Xbox cost significantly more than the Steam Machine as well.
>>730553858Yes, cheaper than a Switch 2 in 2026.
are the specs good enough for higher end emulation? like Xbox, PS3, 360, Switch, even PS4.I see the nicest use case being as an emulation box (I know there's already millions of options there, but it just fits + you can play controller-friendly PC games too)
>>730566530Switch 2 actually costs $450
>>730566178>It's going to be even better when the PS6 and next Xbox cost significantly more than the Steam Machine as well.Significantly would have to be at least $300 more than the Gabecube for consolefags to even consider swapping away from their Madden and Fifa machines, and even then at that point I think they'd just continue playing on their PS5s. There's still a significant number of people still playing on PS4s instead, after all. Fifa 26 is still releasing on that shit.
>>730566178cool hypotheticals bro
I know Linus made that $500 video, before tax, lots of penny pinching and compromises. In the current market, what is this thing really worth compared to throwing new, quality parts in the cart at msrp?
>>730567067>>730567079PS6 is rumored to be $750-$800, next Xbox $1300-$1400. Sony made a mistake chasing Microsoft on graphics, Microsoft is done with consoles and shifting back to PC gaming entirely.
>>730559971>anon was so BTFO he couldn't know what to reply with Talk about steamKEKs
>>730553927Maybe in 2 years after all the AIslop hype subsides
>>730553927it's a mid tier pc where the components are sourced at wholesale prices, you can't compete in some areas, while you can do better in others, consoles are for people who can't build their own
>>730553858>the comparable high end device in question : >8gigs DDR4
>>730562897Do you think valve is pissed at linus, they paid for his flight and got him early access only to shit all over it when others said nothing but glowing mentions
>>730563906Why wouldn’t you want to go above 60FPS? 60+ is like the lowest acceptable framerate for most games that require precise timing.
>>730559971>more whites are on xboxLiterally, why? Xbox is a piece of shit with no games ran by the retarded company that tried to destroy gaming? Xbox is somehow worst than PlayStation, that's impressive.
>>730563563Have you tried Nvidia Image Scaling? I just learned about that last week and apparently it was Nvidia's answer to FSR1. I wish I knew about it when I had a GTX 1650 (my beloved).
>>730559971>whites aren’t on Steam I thought whites weren’t supposed to be retarded
It's gonna be funny when waitfags have to settle for this, regretting not have built a proper PC back then.
>>730567023X3
>>730553963Most PCVegans are Eurotrash obsessed with Valve and pirating.
>>730567694NIS? I used it for a while, but I switched when FSR 2 came out, which gave better results for me>>730567556Remember that I'm using a 1660s, I can reach 60 fps but anything above that is very unstable, something like 75-80 fps, plus the gpu is running at 100% and I don't like that, cap to 60 fps or 70 is best for me
>>730553927>build a pc>in 2026>for 950
>>730554883I wish every single person on /v/ right now would come into this thread and point and laugh at how retarded you are
>>730569570What’s the actual cost of a mid-high range (2k-4k @ 100+ FPS) gaming PC these days? Two thousand dollars?
>THIS SITE THAT'S NOT VALVE AND IS JUST A RESELLER SAYS THEY'RE GONNA RESELL IT FOR 900 DOLLARS THAT MEANS ITS GONNA BE 900 DOLLARS FOR REAL!!!!will you faggots save your dooming until steam gives the price themselves
>>730553927Can agree. Building your PC will always be cheaper especially if you do research, watch youtube videos, and try to search on Ebay. The thing is though Steam Machine was meant to be for those Console types who were curious about Steam as a platform and it literally can be played in the Living Room even though PC's already do that due to HDMI. >>730553963Valve will approve another 3rd party Chinese PC Manufacturer and it will be cheaper than a PS5. Steam is all about the SteamOS and all they need to do is certify Steam Machines.
>>730554836The thing is the prices for the PS5 will go up as will the Switch 2. Because the whole entire RAM industry is absolutely hurting as is the NAND industry which makes NVME's and SSD's. I predict by late 2026 the prices will stabilize, and by early to mid 2027 prices should rebound. More Semiconductors are opening up in Texas, Arizona, Ohio etc.
>>730561158>Does not run on a decent framerateTurn your settings down from HIGH to Medium. Just lower the settings you dumb brown retard.
>>730567242If the next Xbox is basically an actual PC as rumors go, that'd give it far more value than Sony's walled garden to warrant the price, assuming it's at least competent by performance metrics.
>>730571527Steam Machine will have more value, why buy a console/PC with no games, locked down OS, Windows, shitty Xbox features, XFSE, woke censorship, and extremely high price when the Steam Machine does everything that piece of shit will do but better. You also have the freedom to download and install other OSs if you want on the Steam Machine. The Xbox controller can't even play Keyboard and Mouse games.
>>730570876>delusional brown poorfag thinks modern AAA games will run fine on a 1070 at medium settingsUpscaling from 720p and running at lower than 120 FPS is not considered acceptable outside of your third world shithole
>>730554836what a load of ewaste being soldered in with awful specs and claiming that "it will be an upgrade for most users" or "6x more powerful than a steamdeck". and games will always increase in demanded specs because the age of optimization is over.this just tells me to avoid everything steam hardware related if they are just screwing over their users by selling bargain bin tech at an upsell with no "insurance" and to get people into an apple like ecosystem. actually disgusting. do they think this is the gameboy era or something? its a fucking ouya. ADMIT IT.
>>730569716Judging by my old part picker build from October without a power supply or GPU applied but with the RAM I intended to get, that shit by itself is about $1.2k and I was low balling it for a 9600X, correcting myself from >>730561605You want something like a 5070 Ti right now? You're looking at around $700-900, and a 9070 XT punches a hundred off variably depending on the model you're looking at. You want an X3D CPU on top, that's $200-300 more. You're basically hosed for the current pricing, since the 5060 and 9060 XT do not reach 1440p 100+ FPS easily unless a game is really well optimized.
200 dollary doos for the controller
>>730553858Yes, I could buy like 20 but I'll wait to build a chinese pc instead.
>>730553858Valve is led by intelligent people so there's zero chance they would try to sell a console killer for twice the price of a console.
>>730573443Why would I want a 5070 Ti when I have a 4070 Ti Super?
>>730553996How big of a cock are we talking here?
>leaks suggest >according to twitter user >known leaker states>industry analyst weighs inshut up, man.
>>730553858Honestly pretty hyped for it. All i need for my vidya is 1440p at 60fps and I'll be golden. Bought a case and a fan for a build that will probable never come with every part now being expensive.
>>730554207HP Omens are actually great I feel like they should be more popular. Little stuff like nice easy to work in tooless cases, lots of USB ports, good warranty, etc.
>>730553858How many times are you going to be proven wrong before you stop posting this crap you fucking ape, get a life or jump off the closest tallest building
>>730553858>+$120 for 1.5tbWhy would anyone get the 500gb version?
>>730553858Some will buy it but not enough at that price, also people paying that much for a cell phone thinking it justifies anything at that price are fuking brainwashed consumer idiots
>>730565173I honestly hope some government sues the shit out of Micron and who ever they are colluding with that are globally fuking so many markets.
>>730567529Linus might be an idiot as of late but at least he knows a shit deal when he sees one and calls it out.
>>730553858Can I afford it? EasyIs it worth it? No, lmao
>>730572410>Steam Machine will have more valueIt's already weaker than a Series X. Why the fuck would I buy that if the next Xbox is Windows-compatible?
>>730553858LmaoJust get PS5.
Considering how much of a big deal people are making out of this price leak from a completely worthless source, I'm starting to suspect Valve itself is behind it and it's viral marketing.If they were to release at even slightly lower price than that, suddenly the bar for what is an acceptable price goes way up because now it's not being compared to other devices of the same type but rather the leaked price.
>>730575531>muh powerRetard, we hit a wall years ago, ray tracing and path tracing is just adding to 8th gen graphics, there's no reason for 4K or 8K. Games don't look better and I can't even see the difference between a PS4 and Xbox One game vs a PS5 and Xbox Series X|S game and I can see the same happening with the PS6 and Xbox next. Xbox has nothing going for it anymore. Power only meant something with the original Xbox back in 2001.
>>730575876>Retard, we hit a wall years agoYeah, and the 8gb of VRAM in the Steam machine is fucking useless in modern PC gaming when I already have games hitting 12gb on my 5070 TI at 1080p.
>>730576035That's not a good thing. Not that guy, but a game shouldn't be taking 12GB of VRAM at 1080p. That's completely fucked. I've only seen a single game take over 10GB of VRAM on my PC and it had some kind of a VRAM memory leak. Probably garbage UE5 lets be honest.
>>730576035I guess devs are going to have to start optimizing their games for lower hardware then. There won't be a future for high-end gaming or AAA gaming.
>>730553986Does this thing will have any ram?
>>730553858Yes, I can afford 950 dollar gaming box. But I don't want to spend over €20 in general on anything, so no.
>>730554883Congrats dude you built a computer that is significant more shit than the gabecube.
>>730561469No, they are not you absolute fucktard. You don't even know what a die is. The vast majority of integrated GPUs, even on CPUs where both the GPU and CPU cores are on the same PCB, aren't on the same die.Where's that GPU you idiot? You see it anywhere? Because I don't.
>>730576139Or they will simply abandon the PC market altogether and focus on consoles. The extra dev time spent optimizing their games won't be worth the extra couple of thousand sales from all the PC non-poorfags when they can just focus on console and get millions of potential customers who can actually run the game.
>>730577015>Or they will simply abandon the PC market altogether and focus on consolesThat era is dead, the focus is on the growing Switch 2 and PC markets, not the dying PlayStation and Xbox console markets. No one is going to be able to buy high-end PCs, PS6, or next gen Xbox in 2027. No reason to pour money in a shrinking market.
>>730553858Affordable but expensive enough to make me wait for a sale or a price drop.
>>730561319FF7 RebirthIndian Jones
>>730554836>$950 is pretty reasonable for a gaming PC that's stronger than PS5 Pro.>>730553963Nigger retard
>>730553858I'm happy with my 5090 gpu
>>730577235The Switch 2 isn't even a year old and devs are already utilizing DLSS as a crutch.
yesespecially considering it will be infinitely more modifiable and versitile than a console
>>730562897Doomers predicted that price range because that's what a PC with those specs would have costed back then.$650 was minimum and $800 was with profit in mind.>>730567529No, they invited all those people over for strategy.If anything Valve was surprised that people expected competitive pricing and then the whole RAM thing blew up
>>730577015>>730577235Consoles aren't that different than PCs anymore though.
>>730577814I'll be fine because games aren't getting any better and generations aren't generations anymore.
>>730553963>install steam on main pc and 3 other laptopsuh sorry my bad
>>730565369>reee PCs being affordable to poor people bad! High end PCs don't exist!
>>730570590The ram alone would be half that price if you buy it yourself now.Until 2028 at least.
>>730554010If it was cheaper, people would just buy it instead of a regular pc and slap windows on top of it.
>>730553963>>730554267lol
>kids just play fartshite, groomblox and gta v online>normgroids just play COD, madden and fifaIt's over isn't it?
>>730577235 Nah, devs are clinging to PC more than ever, especially with how easy it is to scale performance now. Console exclusivity doesn't pay like it used to, and with how fragmented the console market is getting-Switch 2 doing its own thing, PS5 barely holding on, and Xbox morphing into a Game Pass machine-PC is the only stable bet left. And let’s be real, anyone stressing over buying a 4080Ti isn’t the target anymore, it’s all about mid-tier hardware + upscaling + FSR/DLSS magic.
>>730556216how many /v/ pc fags can't run this game 1440p 120fps?
>>7305641154K is pointless unless you're sitting three feet from your screen, or it's the size of your entire wall. 4K has been a retarded boondoggle for video games that's held back framerates for like a decade at this point for absolutely no benefit as far as television-scale use cases are concerned. PC monitors? Sure, higher resolution is always better, because you sit really close to them and they're never that big for practical reasons. But the Steam Machine isn't strictly a desktop PC. It's primarily a console you're supposed to plug into your TV and get underway with, right out of the box. There's no need for it to output in 4K60FPS when 1080p60FPS is just as good for the use case.There are still people perfectly happy watching DVDs, because they didn't need anything more than 720p for the size of TV they usually watch movies on. Resolution is overblown as a concern in the living room context. And frankly, I've never been a big fan of 4K for games anyway, even on PC. UI elements get way too small and spread out on the screen and you need to adjust them back up to the size they'd be at 1080 or below anyway.
>>730565173We're in a "Dark Compute" situation right now, exactly like the Dark Fiber problem from the Dotcom bubble. A lot of the hardware and infrastructure that have been spoken for already are never going to be plugged in because there's not enough electricity right now, and not enough user demand for AI tasks.
>random faggot shits out a price estimate>dozens of articles and threads about itIs it just going to be like this until like the end of the year?
>>730553963>70% of Steam users don't have a PC better than a PS5Or in other words, there are more Steam users that have PCs as capable or stronger than a PS5 than there are PS5 owners in total.
>>730580132Valve's fault for not announcing a price point. People are going to speculate otherwise.
>>730553858aren't iphones like double that price at this point?
>>730553858JUST ANNOUNCE THE ACTUAL PRICE ALREADY YOU FAT FUCK
>>730562897it is in that range, you just need to remember these specific retailers charge 200+ extra, on top of eu tax
this is worse than a console
>>730553858Who the fuck spends 1000$ on a fucking phone?Mine was 70$. Battery lasts forever, audio quality is great, gets signal everywhere.
>>730553858A $1000 GOYCUBE FOR STEAMCELS TO PLAY THEIR CENSORED PG13 GAMES ONHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>730554207That's vastly more powerful than a Steam Machine. Like not even close.
>>730578450>800m jeets>like half the population not only have PCs but use Steam specificallyIf you're going to make shit up at least try to make it remotely believable.
>>730579662> And frankly, I've never been a big fan of 4K for games anyway, even on PC. UI elements get way too small and spread out on the screen and you need to adjust them back up to the size they'd be at 1080 or below anyway.Sorry, but you're fucking retarded. This was an issue like twenty years ago. No games do non-scaling UIs in 2026.And let me tell you, 1440p is too low-res for me nowadays. Thankfully we can render at 1080p and get 4K-like output via DLSS, so it's no issue at all.
>>730554883>steam machine uses integrated graphics too.It doesn't. It uses a dedicated AMD chipset.The only definition under which you could call it 'integrated' would mean all consoles would also have to be called 'integrated.'
>>730555254>The problem is that it has less VRAM than a base PS5A base PS5 has 16 GB of unified RAM.2 GB of that is reserved for system use. (Only the Pro has a dedicted additional 2GB of memory for that.)Which effectively leaves 14 GB to share between VRAM and main RAM use.Taking more than 8GB of that as VRAM leaves too little main RAM.
>>730553858Android based emulators will kill this console.When you can play 7th gen games on your phone at 60fps without draining your entire battery, That's when PC gaming will die.
>>730573779item_price_vat, i.e. including the VAT tax, yes.item_price holds the ex. taxes price at ~180 EUR.That's what US Burger-donkeys should be looking at.
>>730553858Poor people have the internet and can talk on it?
>>730582936>Taking more than 8GB of that as VRAM leaves too little main RAM.3gb for non-vram use is plenty enough for any game, especially since you don't need to waste extra RAM on the CPU side of things to process/send graphical assets to the GPU due to the shared memory structure.
>>730583243and there's still retailer markup on that, usually 20-30% from their steam deck pages
>>730553858>1000 bucks for a medium settings 1080p machineDOA
>>730585901In short, if we calculate back from that, we get at something like 680 USD gross.
>>730570590>The thing is though Steam Machine was meant to be for those Console types who were curious about SteamNo one like this exists. Everyone who plays games has a Steam account with at least a handful of purchases.
>>730553858>whole thread of 3rd world poors complainingYou are not poor, anon? After all you buy consoles for single game, a cube with multiple games should not be an issue...
>>730580364No
>>730574984>honestly hope some government sues the shit out ofYou do realize politicians have their own money in AI, right?
>decide to unveil your shiny new hardware right at the time that stuff has become unaffordable across the boardDelightful timing.
>>730575818I don't think Valve thinks that far. They could certainly use this misdirected uproar to their advantage.
>>730559313What I really don't get is how Valve is ridiculously, absurdly profitable but they seem to be absolutely pants-shittingly terrified at the thought of subsidising their hardware when trying to break into a new market where the big players also subsidise their hardware to stay competitive. It's surreal, Gabe and co. are obviously very business savvy but it's like their brains just melt when they try to enter the living room. This is the second time they've spent a bunch of time and money developing a product for nobody because they seem to be incapable of wrapping their heads around the console-analogue space for some reason.
>>730587235Yes? 30% of Steam is bigger than PS5 install base. The PS5 has only sold 80 million units.
>>730554097If GTA6 really launches this year, this will be the main argument against the GabeCube.
>>730553858>>730553927>>730554278I made a more powerful PC for less, what do I win?And this is with a new GPU. Just buy a used one and replace the thermal paste, you can get it cheaper.
