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What's the best mech game for someone new to the genre? I got a new controller and wanted to play something
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which one should I pirate chat?
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>>730565912
ACVI > ZoE2 > MW5

They're very different games however and I wouldn't really call them a 'genre' in a game mechanics sense. They share the fact that you're controlling a giant mech but beyond that theyre all fundamentally different games.
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>>730565912
Unironically get PSX and emulate Armored Core 3. Good introduction to the series. Not too hard, not too easy, plenty of secrets, missions, and parts to make all kinds of ACs with it. Or failing that, Brigador. Top down isometric tactical vehicle combat, with a major collection of the vehicles being mechs of various sizes. Might take a while to get used to not accidentally showing your ass to the enemy with the twin stick controls the devs changed as the standard when people got confused with the relative controls that change depending on the direction the vehicle was actually facing. Because shooting things in the rear where the armor is weakest deals more damage, player included.
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>>730565912
ZOE2 is a full on action game. It's kino but you don't get much customization options. AC6 is slower, but you get to build your own loadouts and play the way you want.
I haven't play MW2.
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>>730565912
You're forgetting a big one.
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>>730565912
MW5 is the only real mech game there
AC6 is soulslop on a mech skin
ZoE is an action game
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>>730566568
Is it fun or should I just get call of duty zombi game
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>>730565912
>Mech Warrior
Never played
>AC6
Meh. Handful of cool boss fights.
>ZoE2
Fucking kino. ZoE3 never ever.
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>>730566673
is the hd remaster any good with controller
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>>730565912
All those games are wildly different. What do you want out of a mech game?
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>>730566750
I enjoyed it as much as I remembered enjoying it on PS2, but other anons might call it shit.
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Titanfall 2
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>>730565912
ZoE2 is fun only power fantasy anime mecha with bullshit (cool) mech designs. It's more similar to Warrior games than mech games OP listed. Also I'm an ESL so take it with a grain of salt but people back then said that the voice acting is 'glorious'. Definitely check it out.
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>>730566152
Mercs is the better mech sim. Clans is more arcadey and puts invisible damage reduction shields on mechs with more skilled pilots. This makes tailoring the planned and real time damage output of your builds useless, since you can no longer go "Okay, this enemy mech is a kintaro. I know their legs have 15 armor and 15 HP, so I should fire 5 medium lasers at one leg to hobble it". Clans also made the AI much more accurate, so you can't jump in a light mech and zoom around the map while evading everything.
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>>730568482
I stopped playing after the point where your titan gets picked up by a crane and carried away while saying "Save me Cooper". The campaign is so boring.
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>>730565912
They all have their good and bad, but personally i'd pick Mechwarrior Mercenaries just by the amount of content it has over those two other games.
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>>730566430
That's a turn-based strategy game though
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>>730565912
If you're talking about a normal console controller you can scratch Mechwarrior off your list right now.
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>>730569713
Anon, I already want to play the game you don't have to tell twice.
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>>730568946
Its unironic certified Kino
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>>730565912
why'd they make ibis 01 so sexy? like acually fucking erotic holy fuck i want to fuck this robot
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>>730566750
Yeah it was pretty good i think
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>>730569898
I played MW5 Mercs just fine on my laptop with a controller. Some builds actually felt more viable because I felt like I could use TAG without fucking up my aim. I just assigned it to a shoulder button and held it down. They really should make TAG a toggle, btw.

Also, since you clearly don't know, they patched the controls a while ago to be extra controller friendly. There's an option to make mechs handle like you're in an FPS, instead of a tank game. Personally I dislike it because it takes away from the feeling of piloting a mech (it SHOULDN'T feel like walking around IRL). MW5 Clans has the fps controls by default.
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>>730566152
Mercs fucking sucks cock, get Clans instead
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>>730565912
Western mech games feel more like military simulators than mech games. They also have a shit-ton more mods and in some cases require a few of them to be enjoyable.

Eastern mech games are more like hack n slash or shoot 'em up games. They lean more in to the space opera side of things for better or worse.
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Modded Mercs rocks
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>>730566152
Mercs is a sandbox type game
Clans is two ~8 hours campaign
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ZoE2 has too little gameplay and too much gimmick shit like the A.I deletion, battle field, mine field etc. It has more setpieces than actual free form gameplay.
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>>730565912
Mechwarrior 5 is great but super repetitive after 10hrs
Ac6 is best modern mech game but you should emulate 3rd gen ac first
I don't like zoe but you may like it if you're into anime mecha
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>>730571436
>two
>He doesn't know
A 20 mission Clan Wolf campaign just dropped.
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>>730569898
My fellow anon, the whole num zone is your keyboard trying to emulate analog the like of a left joystick.

Ideally you play MW with your keyboard stuck in-between a $20 Saitek x45 HOTAS. But if you want the full couchpotato experience you can set-up combos through vJoy and the likes so your Dpad is emulating your arrow keys but if you hold Y while doing so it's now emulating F5 to F8.
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>>730572062
>Finally get Tukayyid in a videogame
>You have to play as a fucking cl*nner
I would have preferred to stay ignorant
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>>730568482
This is one of if not the best campaigns I've ever played in an FPS. Pure thrill ride. And it's constantly on sale for like 3 bucks. Highly recommended to all anons.
>>730568946
Except this anon he hates it lol.
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>>730572153
Well you know what happens to the Smoke Jaguar saKhan at Tukayyid. So you at least get to see that if you didn't like her face in the base campaign.
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>>730572062
it is going to suck.
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>>730568482
>Requires origin account/install
no thanks, I dont buy games that require a 3rd party account in addition to steam.
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>>730565912
Forget "Mechwarrior", I was once a fanboy since the third game, but the truth is that MW is a glorified tank simulator and every new game only simplify the gameplay to make it no more than a shooting gallery.

Armored Core 6 is technically simplifying stuff from old games, but it does so by improving the inertia massively and remove a shitty aim-mechanic no one honestly liked.

Zome of the Enders, is good, even if the 1st game is outdated, the blue space colony ambience was great. ZoE 2 is absolutely fun to play, thought if you play on PC I took time to create a specific-control scheme that let me use the dualshock trigger to move up and down instead of the hard-coded control. I've found that it greatly improve movement.
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>>730565912
Can you get your hands on AC4Answer? That's the best in that series by a wide margin. AC5 was stripped of all the vehicle simulation quirks that had gone off the rails in AC4A for a more tactical and "balanced" team-based third person shooter. AC6 didn't even bother to pick up the pieces, they just made it souls instead. I would put 5 and 6 below 1st gen just for how far they've fallen below the expectations built playing through 1-4
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>>730565912
Tried playing the PC port of ZoE2 and the controls listed in the menu are not the same, for example the buttons for moving up and down are different than what's shown in the game. Is there a way to actually show the proper button mapping?
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>>730575904
Are you saying it has PS3 prompts and you're playing with an xbox controller?
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>>730565912
I WON'T MISS
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>>730565912
Mechwarrior is far better than the other two. ZoE is animeslop and ACVI is soulsslop with mechs and window dressing.
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>>730575952
Xbox prompts, and I'm playing with a PS3 controller with Xinput as the driver, pressing the PS3 controller equivalents of Y and X does not make me go Up and Down, instead it's Attack and Grab.
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>>730575991
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Mechwarrior is good, and with a few mods (YAML, YAW, pilot overhaul, warfx, etc) it becomes really good. The career is the best part. It almost feels like one of tbose SCS truck sim games. Semi-milsim feel to the combat, tactical, all about placement. Excellent worldbuilding, shit campaign characters.
AC6 is a full on story game, but you can replay it 3 times and get different events, it's a totally different game. Action combat, fast paced, bullethell dodging type game. Way more polished and aesthetically presentable than mechwarrior. Better characters but worse worldbuilding.
Havent played ZotE
Pick whatever sounds more fun to you
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>>730565912
Mechwarrior is a shitty tank game, Mercs, Clans, Online - all of them. Even if you pirate all DLC and install the 50 required mods it's still a mediocre game (that's still a tank simulator)
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>>730576136
Interesting. Maybe you should try the other control schemes. If all else fails, just make a profile for your controller that swaps the buttons. Use it when playing the game.
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>>730576187
The QoL features from the mods are great. Just having your targeting computer actually calculate your ballistic drop and necessary lead is wonderful. But the thermal vision and headlights are great as well.
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>>730570913
Clans is a moviegame campaign shooting gallery, Mercs has an actual game to the game
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>>730566270
>no autolock on
nuh uh no way unc
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>>730565912
zone of enders is straight up maybe the worst mech game ive engaged with but i only got a few hours in...

armored core4/for answer or ac1 are the best of the series imo, and nothing touches them
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>new
Just try them all? Stop being a faggot.
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>>730576270
>Implying you didn't instantly cheat in your mechs and money for Mercs because you didn't like that side of the game.
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>>730576312
If you're running out of money you probably need to downsize, fire some pilots and sell some mechs you don't use
I do use mech delivery though. Fuck flying around to find one thing. I leave it at 1.5x default price factor to feel less guilty
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>>730576312
the early hobo phase where you're using locusts and javelins is kino thoughbeit
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>>730576312
Nope, but once I'd got my dosh and found a bunch of mechs to crush everythig with at every weight restriction I stopped playing because it became boring. The quest lines were cool enough to do though.
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I want to like Mechwarrior, but I played Mercs and Clans and it felt so awful to play. Every weapon felt like a peashooter. So I would just hug the enemy's face punching them over and over. Titanfall was right.
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>>730576447
The best thing titanfall did and very well, was combined arms infantry and mech combat and seamlessly switching between the two
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>>730565912
Zone of the Enders is infinitely better than any of the other slop
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>>730576580
If you're into tranimeslop.
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>>730576525
Except what is the reason to ever play as infantry? Mechs are the best way to fight both mechs and infantry.
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>>730575904
I did have to fiddle a lot to get the proper control.
Eventually I managed to improve over the original control, using the triggers to move up and down. Making the movement more dynamic.
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>>730565912
If you have acess to a 360, Chromehounds.

Nothing comes close to it as a mech title and is one fromsofts best releases. Runner up is Z.O.E and its sequel if you want heavy action and more of a traditional anime influence. Both are easy to pickup but you also have Mechwarrior which CAN be good but it really depends on how much you want to be invested in it and how immersed you are with the experience. If you can't do either of that it is an absolute slog as it is first and foremost a simulator game but with a 50 ton mech instead of plane. Sounds awesome on paper until you discover with every version you have to wrestle with tank controls, heat management to prevent shut down as you desperately try to move your mechs torso round to prevent getting cored out by the Catapult half mile away or the Jenner running at you full throttle with SRMs.
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>>730576650
More mobility
More cover
Can fit into tight spaces
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>>730565912
Robot alchemic drive
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>>730576650
Sometimes you want to go into a building and not just raze the whole structure
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>>730570370
Which game has that? Whichever it is, I bet it's guaranteed the best of the three.
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>>730576580
If you like sucking cock
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>>730565912
>MW5
Slow mech
>AC6
Fast mech
>ZoE2
DMC mech
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Rate my tier list /v/

open to feedback btw
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>>730576272
Have you tried not being retarded? Aiming on your own is possible.
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>>730573958
So don't buy it
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>>730566270
Not him, I recently beat AC3. Didn't like it, does Silent Line get better?
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>>730565912
It is a weird game where... first playthrough should be vanilla and it is a 5/10 game. But when you get the feel of it then mods bring it to endlessly replay-able.
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>>730579194
Bigger difficulty spikes with some missions can be rough, and the arena is about the same.
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>>730576165
>>730576784
That was great. Soulful.

Actually I played the game and I have no fucking idea what it was about. Fromsoft is such a shitty I am 12 and it is deep company.
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>>730579796
What? AC6 is probably the best story they've made for their game yet. By actually having one. Short version is you're a merc bought by some dude with ulterior motives sent to the planet of Rubicon to get involved with illegal mining operations/local populace suppression. Things get more complicated when it turns out the resource everyone wants might be sapient and also has an agenda of its own.
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>>730579938
>best story they've made for their game yet
Thanks for proving the point they are a dogshit company.
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>>730579796
>I got filtered by a simple story
Okay retard
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>>730578804
Last raven is way to overrated
It has some of the worst balancing, build freedom and way to many light ac boss rush mission
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How should I play ZoE 1 and 2? PCSX2? HD collection on rpcs3?
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>>730579194
NTA but I'm playing through it rn. Haven't gotten too far but it's kind of feels like more of the same. I would jump strait to Nexus or Last Raven if you aren't feeling it. Nexus had pretty unique story presentation and a lot of changes. They removed a lot of redundant parts and overpowered stuff and added tuning to compensate. It felt more deliberate and involved in a lot of ways. Maybe it will do it for you
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>When this banger drops in Chapter 2 and you spend six hours in the garage fiddling with colors, decals and rust patterns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWksqXzkvbk
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>>730580296
I wish this game was fun
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>>730580461
It is fun, what you're not liking is a (you) problem.
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>>730580491
It is not. fromslop is garbage. always
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>>730580550
Uh huh.
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>Westoid slop
>Fromslop
The only good one here is ZoE.
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>>730565912
AC6 is great and beginner friendly, then emulate AC4 and ACFA, which is very easy to do and doesnt take more than a few minutes
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>>730580296
I was surprised when I realized it was only for that chapter because it was there for half my play through.. I guess it wasn't just me
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>>730580641
It comes back in Chapter 4 as well.
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>>730577531
AC6, Ibis is my favorite boss fight in the game too. Super fucking fun if you're running a lighter AC loadout
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>>730570559
>There's an option to make mechs handle like you're in an FPS, instead of a tank game
>Personally I dislike it because it takes away from the feeling of piloting a mech (it SHOULDN'T feel like walking around IRL)
why the FUCK should the game about mechanized humanoids have tank controls you absolute sperg?
>>730565912
zoe is the easiest but dont even consider it if you were born after the game's original release date
overall AC6 is the better game and you should only play mechwarrior if you feel like piloting walking tanks
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>>730578804
Why is there such a gap between ACV and Verdict Day? Aren't they closely related?
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>>730581656
These aren't big metal humans. They're mechs. You control them like vehicles. It should take training, skill and experience to be a good mech pilot. The FPS control mode is gimped because it removes all inertia from the mechs and also does away with important stats like torso twist rate, since you're always in arm lock mode when playing in FPS mode.
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>>730580638
>emulate AC4 and ACFA, which is very easy to do and doesnt take more than a few minutes
Then please come down and show us.
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>>730580857
I ended up bulldozing it with a boosting quad leg build that applied relentless pressure with miniguns and stun needles.
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>>730580041
it's not simple, it's vague. There zero actual specific info on Coral despite the fact that the whole plot revolves around it.
>Hey raven, this is coral, it's your fuel
>But acshually it's an organic substance, like fungi, which is also a performance drug
>Butt acshhhuully it's a hive of micro-organic creatures
>B-but it's also sentient, a-and it has unique personalities, t-that can perfectly impersonate humans
>And it also can freely control, and reprogram, electronic devices at will
>And, and it can also merge with the ornanic creatures, to control their minds
>And, and, and it can also survive in SPACE, without any repercussion
>...
>Did I also mentioned that it can turn itself into a thermo-nuclear bomb?

This is probably the most shameless deus ex machina FromSoft has ever written.
It does whatever the writers want it to at any given moment, without any explanation as to why or how.
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If you liked AC6, you might genuinely enjoy Doll's Nest, I know I did.
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>>730582641
>There zero actual specific info on Cora
You only say that because you didn't read the data things.
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>>730582641
>There'z zero info on Coral
>Here's a list of information about Coral we learn
RETARD
Half of the list is wrong too, holy filtered
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>>730570559
FPS controls are ironically more lore friendly than tank controls.
However, they're completely fucked in Mechwarrior 5 because the developers are thoroughly incompetent retards and didn't account for momentum, acceleration or torso twist. You can go from max speed to max speed instantly and ADADADAD back and forth.
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>>730582641
>it's not simple, it's [french word that means the same thing].
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>That one guy who doesn't understand the coral
What's his problem? It's just space plankton.
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>>730581764
AC5 was very unpolished because FromSoft put their entire A-team in Dark Souls division.
ACVD was their attempt to salvage the game.
I'd say it was a very successful attempt.
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>>730583086
"Vague" doesn't mean "simple" in english.
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>ask waifu where she wants to be bitten
>"In the shoulder"
>"Where exactly? Point it with your finger"
>I poke myself firmly in the meat of my shoulder, right where the deltoid muscle
>have to google

The weird things you have to do sometimes...
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>>730581957
I do agree that they should have kept the inertia for the fps settings but the rest is bullshit
they aren't just vehicles, they are big ass metal humans (for the most part, nobody gives a shit a bout chickenwalkers) and they should be as capable if not more than regular humans. and tank controls go against that directive
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>>730583594
MW5 was one of the first games I played on a keyboard. Going from a controller to a flat mess of buttons was a good learning experience. I was literally learning how to operate something new. There's so many buttons that control different functions of your mech that it's more like a vehicle than an extension of your body.

If you want that seamless feeling of control, play an exosuit game, like Fallout 4 or Stalker. Hell you could just play a normal FPS and larp as a robot. But it's not a mech game and never will be without tank controls.
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>>730583594
>they are big ass metal humans (for the most part, nobody gives a shit a bout chickenwalkers)
Quads>Chickenwalkers>humanoids
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>>730583835
a biped tank will never be a real mech
>>730584002
this but quads>humanoids>the rest
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>>730584470
Amazingly hot take.
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>>730566152
mercs,clans are all furfags
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>>730579796
your fault for being 11 lil bro
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>>730584701
That's not a mech, that's an exosuit. It can rotate, turn, even punch. Clearly not a mech by >>730583835 criteria
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>>730582783
i'm getting too normal for this shit
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>>730582641
About 40% is incorrect and never stated but even if it was that’s still a list of things you’d have been directly told by the characters about the coral. Thats the literal opposite of vague.
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Guys ac6 is so fucking good
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>>730585448
yet so fucking short
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>>730585492
It’s infinity long when you’re a build autist like me
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>>730579704
Are there mods to make weapons more powerfull? For enemies too.
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>>730565912
I'll be playing Break Arts III after I finish my morning beer
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What's marked on your 2026 calendar mechbros?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2830070/SECONDLOOP/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1561740/Kriegsfront_Tactics/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738660/Mecha_Simultactics/
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>>730566270
Anon makes a good point. AC gen 3 is kino, and you can do a 3 > SL > Nexus > NB > LR campaign.


If you use emulation, look up the analog controls patches for the first games.
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>>730583107
Kino
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>>730565912
AC6 is the best mech game today, no matter how you look at it, followed by MW4 mercs
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>>730582008
Follow this guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoKEn5RbzBY
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>>730579938
>and also has an agenda of its own.
Just wanted to point out that at this point, the only thing that didn't have an agenda was 621
Even your damn interface has an agenda
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>>730579025
I didn't, as I said.
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>>730587815
Saw this which looks inspired by 4th gen Armored core
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3392040/OMEGA_PHENEX_COMMENCED_PROJECT_SIX/
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>>730565912
ZOE2 is stupidly overrated, its carried by its visuals and MAIN music theme while the actual gameplay and story are fucking ass.
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>>730587815
Probably this one
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3392040/OMEGA_PHENEX_COMMENCED_PROJECT_SIX/
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>>730581957
Hearing the game somehow "remove inertia" (a fondamental physic?) make me glad I didn't fall into MW5.
That said, everything else is a matter of interface. Mechwarriors are supposed to control their mech using brain-machine interface.

So the real question is: Why have arms if aiming is good enough with the torso?
That's why I have no problem with AC going away with the old "turning speed", those AC are supposed to be godlike warriors with auto-tracking, not ankylosed old man with neck problems.

Mechwarrior was born as a turn-based wargame, so far all of its vidya adaptation remove most of that.
You don't need speedy weapon tracking if you don't have speedy enemies
You don't even need legs if the terrain isn't harsh enough to require them
You don't need electronic warfare if you don't have a detection and jamming gameplay
You don't need data sharing stuff if you aren't a Lance leader...etc
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>>730589838
>>730589993
>muh speed
>non stop flying
Into the trash it goes.
That's the sign the developers are incapable of developing sophisticated mechanics and went for the easiest
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>ctrl+F Mecha Break
>0 results
come on
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AC6 is the most beginner friendly mech game in decades. Seconding Brigador though.
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Doll's Nest was fantastic.
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>>730566568
>AC6 is soulslop on a mech skin
It could not be more obvious you've seen nothing of AC6 beyond "it says fromsoft on the cover".
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>>730591789
Why would you willingly download Chinese spyware?
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>>730589993
>>730589838
I really don't think this vidya will release in 2026.
I have seen footage of this game before the coovid started.
(I also liked the old-school style more than the current unity vibe)
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>>730595573
nta but it says 2027
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>>730596029
Probably gets pushed beyond that too
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>>730565912
Slow mech games like Mechwarrior seem too boring to me. Even if it must have slower speed something still seems to be missing with them outside of the fact they are slow. They just aren't interesting to me.

However the other two games in this pic are amazing and I highly recommend them.
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>>730579704
Any reason to not just run the biggest mechs with the biggest guns and mostly just charge the enemy minus ducking behind a hill after blasting off a barrage.
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>>730570370
because japs understand subtle feminity in designs
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>>730598807
For vanilla it works. Modded with coyotes and YAML mods there are missions where you need to use lighter mech. Also arguably a fast light mech is invincible compared to a heavy which takes a lot of pounding but gets hit constantly. You just have to keep moving. And even without mods Blackjack hero with 6 machineguns or firestarter with 4 machineguns and 4 flamers melts stuff quicker than an assault.
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>>730565912
I loved almost everything about ZoE 2 but the lock-on system is terribly implemented. I've never had to fight against a game that hard to select targets before.
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>>730598807
running a royal kintaro and running at 81 kph one hit backstabbing everything including assault mechs with srms is more fun (and effective)
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>>730573285
It's already out, it's more of the same, which is fine with me
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ZoE > Second Runner
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>>730590004
This is why I'm an advocate for rebooting Mechwarrior. In the tabletop lore the 'mechs are very quick and agile and move just like humans thanks to the Neurohelmet and the fact that they're all actuated with artificial muscle fibers, not hydraulics. The clunky tank controls are a relic from 1990 because that's what the Battletech arcade game played like.
Ideally it would probably play like a high speed Ghost Recon style game with heavy armor, a dodge button, jump jets and melee options that let you tackle other 'mechs.
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For all their obsession with "realism" western mechs seem so clunky and useless it's amazing they think they can even move. Mad cats were the last good western mech design (outside of stuff in Brigador), I just can't stomach Battletech. It wouldn't be as bad if the Battletech devs and fans seemed so hostile to literally every other mecha franchise, especially Japanese. Guess they never recovered from losing the rights to Mospeada and Macross designs?
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>>730565912
Mechwarrior shouldn't even be here. That trash will put you to sleep. Replace it with Titanfall.
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>>730566568
If anything Armored Core plays more like an Ace Combat game than a mech one or even Souls. You haven't played it.
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>>730602281
I'll sympathize with the fans but there's nothing to save in Mechwarrior.
The mech design was/is terrible to begin with, even after trying to modernize it. And the gameplay only made sense as a tabletop game in which you control multiple vehicles.

It only made it into a mecha-simulatorgame because "Tank control" was the only gameplay (and physics!) early video games could make, and MW was almost the only one fitting the bill.

Nowadays we have the tech to make Assassin's Creed level Patlabor game. That said, it would take a fucktons of money on animation. I'll be happy enough if we get a Mudrunner-physic mecha without CQC.
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>>730603272
Falseflag trolling.
Air Combat is the definition of arcade slop.

Armored Core 6 is proud to be soul-like. It does have flaws but most of the criticisms are from players who had their expectations set too high because of the popularity of the game.
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>>730565912
Mechwarrior if you are a He/Him, She/Her or They/Them warrior.
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>>730565912
ZOE2 is a hell of an experience but it’s mecha in story and presentation alone
As a game, it’s a fun but basic action romp
AC6 and MW5 are much more traditional mech experiences, i.e. learning to control a machine, outfitting it with parts, etc
ZOE is a phenomenal franchise though and experiencing all 3 entries + the spinoff is very worth your time
(For reference, that’s ZOE1 > the Idola OVA movie > ZOE2, play ZOE Fist of Mars, the GBA tactics spinoff, somewhere between if you want)
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muv;luv is a lot of fun for the plug suits and story, but the actual mech part of it is pretty gay imo.
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>>730565912
Mechwarrior 5 is a abortion. play 2,3 and 4.
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>>730604464
>both have score in the form of in-game currency
>literal score attack
>not arcade
lmao look at this retard
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>>730566152
Steel Battalion. You won't though.
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>>730566430
He wants to enjoy his controller. So that one is out.
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I like robots and i like souls likes. Should I get AC?
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>>730605695
>playing anything but Mechwarrior 2 and 3
4 was the start of the fall, Microsoft taking the license and milking heavy multi-tons vehicle of war into flashy plastic toys for kids.
Everything after that is still simplified shit.
Honestly, even MW3 failed over the engineering decision aspect.
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>>730606017
Armored Core plays nothing like a souls game.
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>>730606114
According to this thread and the others it does 100%.
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>>730605835
By that logic the majority of games are arcade, even reality is an arcade game. IRL military also consider monetary cost when rating the efficiency of their operations.
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>>730606209
It does not. Biggest change is no need to backtrack when losing thanks to glorious checkpoint system.
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>>730606292
It's not logic, it's the literal definition of an arcade game, retard.
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>>730606209
Okay fine play it and feel retarded. But you can literally look in b4k right now and nobody says that except ACfag.
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>>730565912
Dolls Nest.
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>>730606209
Show me on the control layout where the roll button is.
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>>730606509
You don't get score
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>>730607110
You do, otherwise you wouldn't be ranked at the end of the mission with a fucking letter. Money is literally a synonym for score in Armored Core.
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>>730606209
My theory is this is said by 1 or 2 autists who are furious that the game somewhat favors melee weapons.
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>>730606017
Don't listen to those other guys, it's reasonable to compare them by rather saying that Souls plays like Armored Core.
A lot of the mechanics in Demon's Souls were directly inspired by Miyazaki's work on Armored Core 4 combined with FROM classic King's Field. You got the stamina bar, a quick dodge and equippable weapons and armor (mech pieces) that considerably change the way you play. You obviously don't have XP and leveling and there's no open world at all, but you do have hidden items to find in almost all Armored Core games so level exploration is a thing.

Remember, Demon's Souls was an experimental game just like FROM had been doing time and time again but never managed to score a major mainstream hit. That core FROM DNA shines in nearly every game they've put out to some extent.
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>>730604464
what popularity? AC franchise was niche, for starters. then when AC6 released everyone was saying that it's meh and "old fans" (synonym for faggots) were actually shitting on it for not having enough customisation and introducing stagger and hard lock. in truth the decal and paint editor are the mechfag's dream come true and the gameplay is great
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>>730607185
you only get scores for replaying missions
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>>730608986
>and the gameplay is great
What if I'm shit at the game though? I have never gotten anywhere in an AC title. I played 1,2, and 4? Whatever was on PS3 and PS1.
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>>730607956
>A lot of the mechanics in Demon's Souls were directly inspired by Miyazaki's work on Armored Core 4
Isn't 4 the AC where you move at 10 million miles per hour?
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>>730609330
then you'll take longer to beat it. regarding gameplay, AC 4, 5 and 6 all have different gameplay, so you might struggle less with it. if you don't give up at the helicopter, you'll be able to beat the game
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>>730609735
I will contemplate this. I do enjoy large robutts.



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