>Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2's exec producer says the backlash over its gay romance amounted to little more than "a handful of terminally online culture warriors," with no meaningful impact on sales or reception.>Warhorse studios says most players and devs didn't notice the drama, or didn't care.Is he right?
I actually don't care about the game at all
I actually don't care about culture wars and wanted the devs to be the same
>game is a legit slapster>but /v/ hates it because it has an optional gay romancewhy is that?
>>730579485Because we don't like gay romancesNext question
>>730579262Yes.
he's kinda right. I didnt buy the game because it had homo shit, an unkillable nigger and bunch of kikes you cant go against. three strikes.
>>730579485>Didn't play mass effect then>Didn't play kcd thenStill going to not play them now. Thanks for giving another reason to not play ME thou faggot.
>>730579262I'm straight and I chose Hans because I thought it was funny
>>730579262>in pretty much all of Europe, being a faggot meant you were at best, seen as a fucking outcast>saaar nooooo you must be understanding, our BASED HISTORICAL game was never historically accurate sar
>>730579485>his childhood game is Mass Effectwhat a miserable existence
>>7305794851. Gay romance in mass effect was a media level controversy. Gamers ALSO hated how you can get your butthole violated in Dragon Age 2.2. Pandering to homosexuals is optional. Me buying games that pander to mentally ill homos is also optional.
Only culture warriors cared that the gay romance be included to begin with. What's your fucking point? You think you can exist in a state of culturelessness?
>>730579262>add gay shit to your RPG>Geoff takes away your mandated RPG award and gives it to his darling E33(MC only has straight romances)YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
>>730579669but anon, you can play mass effect and kill kaidan, like everyone else
>>730579262No it's cope
I hate it, because it degenerated the series into Capeshit and a thinly veiled Czech Nationalist wish fulfillment simulator. I wanted my Henry to be a Catholic Knight, but you are railroaded into being a Hussite rebel.
>>730579485>he doesn't know Mark Vanderloo had a stipulation in his contract that said his likeness can't be used to imitate gay relationships or gay sex>he doesn't know the gay option in ME3 literally cost Bioware and EA additional millions just for the option of having pointless gay butt sexthat's how much they hate you and how much they want to promote mental illness. It's a goal in and of itself. Veilguard is merely a culmination of this ideology, just wait for ME4
>>730579262If he was right then why it didn't win GOTY?
>>730579262If they had put the gay romance as a highlight of marketing, the game would've tanked, and they know it.
>>730580063Don't care still not playing it.
Do I need to play the first one to play the second one?
>>730579485>legit slapterZoom zoom that game was shit, and literally killed Mass Effect. They ran out of money, and released Andromeda half baked after ending the series in disgrace.>>730579262>We don't want the fans they care too much Absolutely delusional position that's literally never worked ever.
>>730579262>actually people against woke are the REAL woke>no one ACTUALLY cares which is why I'm so angry and keep seething when people talk about itLeftist cope is getting worse
>>730581815me3 sold like 10m
>>730579262If anything I think the drama was caused by terminally online discord trannies that just wanted the game to fail because it wasn't diverse enough for them.The Gay romance dialog choices are clearly marked so unless you're an absolute spastic with a gross disregard for social cue's its obvious when you're going for the gay route.
>>730579262Remember that Jewra didn't care about it so much that kept defending his sellout on twatter 24/7 after the first leaks appeared and when the fame came out.
>retcon protagonist >be surprised people react negatively to it
>>730581954wrongit being in there is a clear sign the game is woke and supports wokery
Had it been just the faggotry, I probably would have got this game and just ignored it.But that plus>Musa>Primary character>Lectures and humiliates you>You HAVE to help him>You are forced to be nice to him>He's the only reason you surviveand>Jews>Essential characters>They insult and mock you>You HAVE to save them>You are forced to be nice to themFuck that. I know there's a mod to make Musa less awful, but I don't think there's anything to remove the jews.
>>730581901>Guys it sold 10 gorillian copies that's why they fired everyone closed the studio, and sold the IP to Microsoft who then had the insanely successful IP produced by Indian mobile game devs.
>>730579262>>730579485Still not buying your game daniel
>>730579262>culture warriorsWhy is this said like a bad thing? What's wrong with wanting to protect your history, culture and traditions?
>>730579262Still coping and seething about getting no awards huh? Hahahahahahahaha
>>730579485Mass Effect 1, which is the only good Mass Effect game, does not have a gay romance (female and female doesn't count). ME2 and ME3 have gay romances and are both trash.
>>730579530then don't intentionally pursue them
>>730579262Vavra took Blackrock money and pozzed his game, simple as.
>>730583071only ME3 has male on male gay sex
they did the right thing from a purely sales standpoint.the based players lost was less than the normie players gained. by adding faggot shit they had the globohomo fake gaming media and corporate shills on their side helping push the game to normies
>>730579262>terminally online culture warriorsSo all of western civilization?
>>730583304This sort of thing works short term, if it does at all.Long term you get a lot of simmering hatred and even internally, the devs who know what they are doing are going to look for work elsewhere.Talent leaves when ideology reigns, as has been seen time and time again.
>>730579262It was culture warriors who put it the gay romance in in the first place. Pretty hypocritical of him to say it like it's a bad thing when he is one himself.
>>730583336>westernsaar I requesting you to please amend your statement very accordingly
>>730579262>just don't pick the gay option bro!But why would you even put this in your game in the first place? If I were a dev and make a game that I would be passionate about, this would never come to my mind. Like what the fuck? Who does this?
>>730583425Gay options are always aimed at straight women. If you pay attention to modern net discussions about pop culture (faggot ass wicked movie mostly), you'll realize that 99% of "LGBT" acceptance is actually just fan fiction written by straight women for other straight women, like that faggot hockey show.Actual fags just watch porn.
>>730583425who cares? just don't pick the gay option, bro.
>>730579485I would answer you but I just realized how pointless it is to even try to communicate with odiously dishonest cunts like yourself who make it their mission to twist and misrepresent and out-scum everyone else in the conversation
>>730579262I don't care. Why should I? I'm clearly not the target audience.
>>730579262>a handful of terminally online culture warriors,You mean the same culture warriors you tried appealing to with your previous game? Im sure all this will reflect positively on your current and future revenue.
>>730583557Women who pretend to be accepting and all that bullshit is just larping and they don't even play videogames. So this doesn't make sense>>730583560>who cares?I care, I've just asked a question.
>>730583573>I would answer you but I just realized how pointless it is to even try to communicate with odiously dishonest cunts like yourself who make it their mission to twist and misrepresent and out-scum everyone else in the conversation
>>730583631why do you care?
>>730583632Thanks for the picture, you captured my likeness wellYou're still a disgusting cunt acting purely in bad faith however
>>730579485why don't anyone of us have any counterarguments?
>>730583696Why do you care so much?
>>730583696I like videogames and I don't like homosexuality pandering. I'm tired of pretending that homosexuality is actually cool and totally the same as heterosexuality. I'd understand if this was a sexual fetish and the lead dev was a fujoshi. But this is not even it, that's a dude who decided to put gay shit and a very detailed gay sex scene in his game lol
>>730583804i don't care, that's why i'm playing and enjoying kcd2 :)
>>730583830Youre not though, you're here seething because it was a flop
>>730583101Easier to intentionally not buy games that have them
>>730583756When you were young, you were blind and naive. Now you arae older, you can see the real intent behind these sick and degenerate things.
>>730583878Yes, thats what started the leftist bootlickers seething in the first place
>>730583868flopping my dick out and then ur sucking it cause u just can't resist picking the gay sex option, closeted homo
>>730582005You are now Maurimaxxx, getting upset over insignificant details that you put yourself in.
>>730579485>ass effectThat whole franchise is utter dogshit
>Le cropped mystery quote from some retarded nigger threadMarketing is really in a sorry state nowadays
>>730583829>I'd understand if this was a sexual fetishI feel exactly the same way. It's the fact that it's social engineering and preaching that pisses me off. It always makes the games worse too
>>730583425Company mandate. They got bought less than a year after the first game and it became a requirement that they add gay sex and black people. They tried to do it the "right" way, having the black guy be very explicitly foreign and the gay sex be taboo, but it's still modern politics being forced into the game which soured it for a lot of people.
>>730579262christian retards and nu /v/ dont know how to rpg works, i actually encountered lot of brainlets who think rpg options are in main characters head or something.
>>730583914Realistically speaking, if you're >>730583868how do you come back from this?
>>730583756Mass Effect sucks
>>730583914>if you don't like gays you're just closetedas an actual gay (NTA), that's a cringe fucking cope to avoid dealing with criticism and self reflection
gay sex is optional? So is paying for the game.
>>730584023what criticism? that he doesn't like gay people?
>>730583560>>730583696>>730583830
>>730584053
>>730583973Henry and Hans are established characters with an established sexuality. The devs even said so in regard to Henry in the first gameThe option doesn't have to be "in their heads" for it be something that shouldn't be an option in first place
>>730579262I genuinely don't care about the nigger or the onslaught of gay innuedo, because both pale in comparison to hamfisting a fictional jewish district into an otherwise historical recreation of a mediveal city for the sole purpose of staging cheap atrocity porn.
>/v/ fucked Hans instead of Rosa What is wrong with you faggots.
>>730584052The very valid reasons that he feels that way and how people like you specifically contribute to fuelling his aversion
>>730583924If it was so insignificant why change it to begin with? Why didn't they think about him being gay once during the first game's 6 year development?
>>730584272>If it was so insignificant why change it to begin with?Because dumb cunts like you will talk about it and generate free publicity. >>730584272>Why didn't they think about him being gay once during the first game's 6 year development?Because normal people don't think about gay men 24/7 like you.
>>730584356You sound weirdly agitated by this... Vávra, that you? Still mad you didn't win anything at the Dorito Pope awards?
>>730584219i fucked the shy girl at the wedding cause i felt bad for her and then she said it was a disappointing lay...
>>730584425I'm so mad bro, I applied to work at a kitchen and they don't even need ovens anymore becuase I'm so worked up and breathing fire and causing the entire place to be like an furnace reeeeeee
>>730579262>we shoehorned in vile faggotry into our game and it's YOUR fault you noticed [see how]waow!! very cool chutzpah bud>no meaningful impact on saleshahahaha
>>730579485The game is as fucking shit as the first one
>>730584356>Guys there were totally black muslim feminist homosexuals attending church councils in 1400s BohemiaDude they literally dunked people for buggery in the 1950s you're a clown.
>>730584482Well at least you admit it. Carry on fren.
>>730579262Why did Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2's exec producer try to hide it and the nigger as much as possible during the marketing then?
>>730584519Musa isn't homosexual. He explicitly jokes about cuking the poragonist and makes many comments about fucking white women.
>>730579485ME3 turning Kaiden into a raging homo is one of the worst parts. Can never let him live past Virmire.
>>730584624You think any of these people actually play video games?
>>730584053"I don't care" is not the same as "it doesn't matter" you fucking retard
Vavra saaar
>>730584624>He didn't play the game, and doesn't know there are two homosexuals (not including you, the player) at the church councilI envy you for not actually sitting through this garbage game.
>>730584650No anon, no one plays your faggot gamesNo
>>730584867>The whole team was telling me not to do it but I just fucking love niggersuh... okay?
>>730579262KCD2 was effectively the same maneuver as Joker 2. The first was a hit with young white men so the powers that be made sure to character assassinate the MC in the sequel.
Pure cope. The game would've sold twice as much without the rugpull.
>>730579262I don't care about the gay romance, is it retarded, sure, but it's not something that's outwardly offensive, I can just ignore the heart dialogue and keep Hans as a bro. The actual issue is that the waifus were shit, practically every waifu feels like a humiliation ritual, Henry should be accomplished and a knight considering all his feats in first and second game, instead he's just treated like a complete village baboon retard by everyone and gets nothing and makes no progress whatsoever. Theresa gets no content in the second game. The MILF is a dead end with no hope of a relationship. The girl you dance with mocks you for being bad in bed. The redhead is best one but even with her you have no chance of remaining together and she fucks off to a different place. That's the actual problem with the game. I guess the feminist progressive traveler scholar nigcel is kind of cringe but meh.
>>730584624>about cuking the poragonist and makes many comments about fucking white women.vavra fetish insert?
>>730580974I would say he sold his soul for nothing, but since he's Jewish he was bound to hell anyway.
>>730579416>i dont care about culture wars>but the devs cared about the culture wars by making a gay romanceyou care about the culture war retard get off your fence
I can promise you that no one cares. It's like the hogwarts boycott but with a lesser known ip
>>730584960yep. typical feminine kike shit
>>730584962Pretty much this. And now Vavra's reputation is shot so the third game will sell worse than the second.
>>730579262Kingdom Come 1 is a weirdly stroturfed game that was massively shit on on release because it is a fucking piece of shit that barely works, but somehow it got revisioned since the announcement of part 2 into the best game evaarrrrrKingdom Come 2 has the sales of said revisionism from all the normies and retards that got marketed by the streamers that had to hype up this diarrhea leakage because it is long and it gives them half a month of streamsNotice how no one even remembered the games existence when discussing the GOTY?
>>730580549I do remember there was conservative backlash over ME for gay shit but I didn't know about that. They really would shoot themselves in the foot for the sake of that shit. Gen Xers that started becoming politically aware at 35+ just to instantly start pushing gay shit seem so absurd to me. What compels a man
>>730579262He's the one turning a personal preference into a political one. What a disingenuous mediocre man.And no, straight people usually don't ask to be exposed to gay stuff.
>>730579485ME1 is the only good one THOUGHand bioware games are normalfag slop anyway
>>730584991But the way they included the gay romance is outwardly offensive and you apparently still can't see the big middle finger in your face after the "waifus" you encountered ingame?
>>730584093Where did you get this picture of me in the middle of arguing with a jew
>>730585147Money in first instanceYou get paid to hire faggots, niggers and obese women, and said hires push thisAlso, being EA, likely just direct money, meaning they thought pandering to faggots was a selling point
>>730585112If there's a 3rd game, it won't even cross 1mil. What little this game made was thanks to the stellar reputation the previous one had, and the fact the woke shit was only revealed a few weeks before release. The discourse around the game is non-existent, both professionally and in the gaming community.
hehe
>first game is regarded as a masterpiece, although a bit of eurojank but loved by everyone and praised for it's storytelling and realistic depiction>second game adds a couple of gay scenes to get that sweet DEI money>game falls into oblivion and gains 0 awardslooks like selling yourself like a whore for a bit of money is not good for your franchise
>watching baby poltards get mad i have representationi actually love the /pol/tide because you can just insult them with baby schoolgirl insults, leave the thread, and know with absolute certainty there are seething replies (You) will never read
>>730585357I'm sure it still made cost and then some but they're fucked as a studio.
>>730585263The stellar reputation being completely fake and manufactured btw>B-but part 2 its on very positive on SteamSteam reviews are completely worthless since Fat Fuck changed them to just show you whatever the fuck they feel like. Shitsong went from mixed to very positive on the day of the change
>>730585368You will never be woman.
>>730585251>you get paid to hire faggots niggers and obese womenthat's somethign that's started since the 2010's. You could say that it happened earlier but it really seems "genuine" coming out of bioware.I also see a LOT of tabletop and TTRPG related discussion with the same thing, gen X men, pushing 50 by now, who one day decided not giving a shit about politicians for all their early adulthood stopped NOW and Trump is megaSatanHyperHitler. I guess it's like those boomers yelling at the TV after decades of being glued to it. I think a lot of times "milennials" are blamed when it's guys like that.
>>730579485>optionalwhy did you choose to be gay?
>>730585368You will never be a woman
>>730585421Brotherman, when do you think ME2 released?
>>730585204Except you are trying to force your issues with the game onto me, I couldn't care less about gay or lesbian people existing, even trannies or femboys, add however many you want, I am all for it, the game doesn't get any better or worse with them being in it or not in it for me. I care about being able to play as a straight white dude, kill enemies, and fuck hot girls. And the game doesn't offer you that fantasy, Henry still feels like a peasant bumfuck at the end of KCD2 and hasn't really resolved almost any of his aspirations or stuff from beginning of first game. And the waifu are absolute shit in writing and quests, their designs are good though and KCD2 is one of rare games with girls with big ass titties and good wet see through clothing.
>>730585414>>730585442being a spiteful faggot is all his parasite infested ass has anons, cut xir some slack... LOL
You can also have sex with the combat instructor guy in Trotsky as a fling. Either way both of your gay options are lordlings who try to keep it quiet which mostly suits the period.
>>730585503A game released in 2010 wasn't being made in 2010. By 2015-6 is when the effects of all that shit started being seen in videogames.
>>730585407I think you misread, I said the first game had a stellar rep. It was real, lots of people who played through claimed they loved it multiple times. Years of discourse and old fans got hyped as fuck for the sequel. As for the sequel being "mostly positive" that's likely due to sunk cost/it not being outright horrible. There no talk about it though, unlike expedition 33, meaning the people who did play if didn't give much of a fuck.
>>730585538Someday I hope some actual right wing politician gets elected and cuts social assistance for social anxiety. It's how trannies feed themselves, maybe being forced to work for a living will change them for the better.
he's rightand the people coping about it because "w-well, it didn't win the GOTY thought!" are seething hard. There's no universe KCDII takes the award from E33, gay romance or no gay romance.
>>730585705No anon, it was NOT realThe game came out to negative fucking reviews on steam because it didn't even fucking work properlyThe "stellar reputation" is manufactured thanks to retards like you that have long term memory loss or simply are 15 and couldn't even play the first one
>>730585705I’m not sure what you are on about - it’s one the most positively reviewed, popular games of 2025 aside from E33, and was considered GOTY potential before E33 swooped in and took their flowers.
>>730585506If you can't see where the issues you have with the game stem from then you will always have a bad time finding waifus.
>>730579485we would've cried about mass effect being woke if it was released today
>>730584120its fucking rpg whre you dont have to play as good christian if you dont want to retard, henry is blank slate whos barely adult, you can broke almost all 10 commands and break his so called character.
>>730585991godmorning sirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivvEDZw79dA
>>730585917Games that are literally chockfull of fucking tumblr humor, tumblr fanfiction lesbian and gay characters like Dragon Age: Origins, Baldur's Gate 3 etc still let me have my fantasy of playing as a badass overpowered straight white guy and fucking a hot goth bitch and having a good and satisfactory ending and exploring a kino world. If KCD2 removed the black guy and the gay romances it would still be a unfulfilling and mediocre game for me. Not that I liked E33 either, I didn't even bother with that looked boring as fuck.
>>730579262gay czech retards
>>730585860No anon, it was. There was alot of talk about the first game, I was apart of it and seen it with my own eyes. The bugs were not bad at all. Most complaints were about the combat going from very hard to you turning into a killing machine with not much in-between. >>730585881I'm saying positive reviews are meaningless if there little discourse. COD games get positive reviews but then haven't had any culture impact in a decade. BG3 and E33 have had significant cultural impact, KCD2 landed with a silent thud. The best way to determine a games impact is the discourse around it. Something like VPTMB has horrible sales but a dedicated community still active to this day, whereas something like last year's COD might sell alot and get B+ reviews but has no discourse.
>>730579262The faggot is coping hard. The game was shit and flopped. Never buying a game made by this hack. He’s a massive hypocrite and liar
>>730586132Your loss, but I also don’t think you went in with the right expectations if you were expecting Dragon Age or Baldurs Gate. Which are also 100x way more fucking gay than KCD by the way.
>>730582895>wanting to protect your history, culture and traditionsYou certainly aren't doing that by playing videogames, chief
>>730579485Newfag please. Everybody hated gay romance options in ME back in the day, especially Kaidan.
>>730586172Ok so you are not 15 you have a literal mental illness
>>730586065i bet you have more afro blood in your veins than me, witcher 3 is not rpg, kingdom come is rpg.
>>730580549>Artists have the balls to tell their retarded actor that he can go fuck himself and they can make whatever art they want he can't stop them>They actually do itHoly fucking based we need more game devs and artists like this nowadays.
>>730586172KCD2 got plenty of buzz when it came out and like 3-4 nominations at the game awards. Maybe you weren’t paying attention early last year but there was tons of talk about it. E33 an even BG3 did however dominate most RPG discussion in their respective years I’ll admit, but KCD2 was easily the second most discussed RPG of last year.
>>730579262so who cared enough about it to put it in the game?
>>730586258Terminally online culture warrior detected
>>730586172Either you are lying or you have a literal cognitive problemThe complaints were that the game was fucking dogshit that barely worked at all and most streamers dropped it too because it was fucking insufferable after the basically scam that was the kickstarterYour "complaints" are post-astroturf, so it makes me think that you are just lying, but in case you actually believe what you are saying go get help
>>730586328They shilled the game with promoting Henry dancing with a girl, showing the whole art of a knight and romance and revenge. And in reality you get no romance, it's just humiliation ritual dates and you don't achieve proper revenge, and you don't become a knight or respected in any way. What was the point of the game? The woke shit in it is not even the problem, the problem is that Vavra is a talentless hack. But he is a self-diagnosed simpleton and retard obsessed with boomer hollywood action slop, so checks out.
>>730586347There's YouTube videos about KCD1 talking about the game years after that get 100k+ views. Might not be morrowind/fallout NV level but it's on the board.
>>730586258pack it up guys, the game flopped according to some anonymous retard
>>730586539>years afterAre you completely fucking retarded anon? Mayhaps you haven't understood that that is THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT
>>730579262So I am someone who actually played and beat both here:KCD2 is good, and I like it a lot. I do think the gay romance thing is completely and totally out of character, but as a hidden option it ultimately doesn't bother me THAT much. The thing is if it were just that, I would probably write it off. But it is the Musa stuff + Jewish stuff that makes me roll my eyes. It doesn't ruin the game, but I think it is pretty clear at this point that the higher ups wanted to avoid the awkwardness of the first game. While it DID wear off, when initially released KCD was basically one of the first major culture war games and it had a reputation for being a racist, evil, sexist, rapist, far right game. Then you play KCD1 and it is literally not even close to that unless you get offended by people saying Jesus Christ.
>>730586481I didn't see any of it other than the controversy, and yes I get my vidya news from places other than here. Even YouTubers who were hyped and loved the first dropped it pretty quickly. E33 is a household name at this point, KCD2 isn't and might be remembered best for Vavra crying like a bitch.
>>730586519Maybe you're just gay and pissed a Chud game did good and has a huge community. Wasn't even just the Chuds who liked it, it was big on the medieval community. The streamers who dropped it were probably ADHD zoomers and they're irrelevant.
>>730586654post hours for both games.
>>730586631THE POINT IS THE GAME IS LOVED AND PROOF OF LOVE IS CONTINUED DISCOURSE YOU FUCKING RETARD. Pound all the sand you want, you lost.
>>730586792Ok so it is an actual mental illnessGo see a doctor
>>730579262if nobody cared why even put it in the game?
First game had good bro energy between Henry and HansSecond game compeletely ruins this friendship by inserting 21st century sensibilities into a medieval settingWhy can't you have same-sex friends without it devolving into faggotry? You people are fucking insane
>>730586538Henry fucks like 7-8 women over the course of the game if you don’t fumble, not including bathhouse wenches - sounds like you messed up or likely don’t play the game.Knighthood by the end of the game is a near pointless formality when Henry is already a highly renowned warrior across Bohemia.
>>730586970>already a highly renowned warrior across Bohemia.Henry is a moderately well known go-to problem solver for two provinces. He's not a kingdom renown warrior. Unless you're a chad and took on ziggies camp but that ending has henry ripped apart by drunken miners so :(
>>730585081team is full of women nowadaysespecially writters room even Vavra in czech stream admitted he had to rein them in on sex scenes and romancesclassic fujoshits>>730586132>If KCD2 removed the black guy and the gay romances it would still be a unfulfilling and mediocre gameTRVTHNKgame falls apart in second half
>>730586914>Why can't you have same-sex friends without it devolving into faggotry?because they're literally friendless losersC. S. Lewis>"Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend"
>>730586914women
>>730579262the award givers certainly didn't care for it lol
>>730586970Who gives a fuck if you can fuck random hoes? How is that meant to be a fantasy? You can go outside right now and find a club slut to fuck, it's not an achievement even in real life. What would be an achievement is fucking a girl like Rosa, becoming a knight and marrying her. Or having Theresa actually be in the sequel and part of it. In reality Henry is a fucking loser, even in one of the dates if you ask the girl how he was in bed she humiliates him geg. The entire game is Vavra being a chubby manlet with a stray eye that gave him insecurity for being crosseyed nerd his entire life growing up in czechia playing vidya, ended up dating some beat ugly midshit wife that fucks other guys on the side, so his only comprehension of life is that henry his self insert can only fuck prostitutes and badly at that or cheating wives, and his only accomplishment in life is playing second fiddle to hans and being a shitty bodyguard. Great fantasy.
>>730582005>Henry is straight in KCD1>suffers brain damage at the start of 2 so severe he loses several skills>can now be gaymakes you think
>>730579485why did you played a m-rated game as a child?
>>730579262So it's okay to be big gay but not have a wife and children?This almost feels like a commie brainwash to avoid the enemy reproduction. Either the commies or the jews, I dunno but why is it so bad to have a conservative wife who cares and loves you?
My henry identifies as a woman so therefor he's not gay :)
>>730584775If it doesn't matter, why do you care?
>>730585442Cool, because imma man
Here comes the cope and seetheAlso games like BG3 and Hogwash already proved that online people can't do shit just make a good game.
>>730579262game made by cracker race traitors for cracker race traitors
>>730579262Why wouldn't they say that?Also sales are rarely touched on the first woke instance. People didn't know when they bought. The company's reputation is however now ruined and it will hurt future sales.
>>730579485Just as outraged then as now. Whoever made that image is dishonest and young.
>>730588590>The company's reputation is however now ruined and it will hurt future sales.I am sure people are going to remember and feel bitter about gay romance option and a black npc
>>730588919I’m not buying a game from them ever lol
>>730579262Such a weirdly two-faced thing to say. They called the people trying change their game after the first installment cultural warriors. Now they are acting like none of it happened and treating their original self and the first game's audience and its disposition as a culture war incursion. Wtf? I've never seen this level of turncoat cognitive dissonance before. It reminds me of torture when a person under duress can be made to admit crazy things. If we had a time machine, Vavra would deny all of these things that's being said now. Again wtf?
>>730588954Oh no they should shut down the studio
>>730588919>I am sure people are going to remember and feel bitter about gay romance option and a black npcYes, I will lol. I bought KCD1 and enjoyed it. But I thought something was off about the buzz around KCD2, so I waited a bit, and as soon as I saw the gay romance and black NPC, I decided not to buy and told people not to buy it cause it looked like it would suck. The people that bought it anyways mostly said they hated it.
>>730589028Yeah me too, i personally would've bought 36k copies before the woke shit
>>730589025This tranny is seething
>>730579485That is a straw man. There were multiple things going wrong with this game. I for one felt betrayed by the diversity pandering which I thought they had already shot down way back when that retarded article came out and claimed a black traveler could have visited Bohemia and impregnated women over there. It was such a ridiculous thing to claim, then KCD2 comes out and adds that very thing into their game LOL. I still can't believe it happened. It's like when your political opponents hack your account/website and upload harmful messages and material onto it to slander you, that is what it felt when they added that black supremacist clown to the game.Also why is there no choice regarding the Jews? The world is very much against what Jews do in Israel at the moment. It would have been a good RPG thing to allow you to decide what to do with the Jews.
I'm glad KCD2 flopped. Embracer is going bankrupt soon.
>jews, musa, fagsgetting old boys.try something else for a change.
>>730589116>NO you are seething
>>730579485I believe this is because of muslim immigration. Back in the day before muslim mass immigration nobody cared about any of this stuff. Now it's all "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE there's a woman or a gay man in this game, it's totally unacceptable!!! This whole thing must be cancelled immediately because it's offensive to my thirdieness!!"
>>730579262He's right because /v/ is always wrong
>>730579262incredible case of copium and desperation to avoid having to grapple with the fact that their views are unpopular or that their selling out is unpopular and affects them when they were confident it wouldn't affect them at all and they could get away with ittheir studio is tanked because they thought "people will not care and still give us money if we put gays and blacks in"turns out, obviously, not the case
>>730589028I think the most intriguing thing about all this is who leaked that stuff right before launch and why. Someone really felt betrayed in order to do so. They deliberately snapped screenshots of those particular scenes to let everyone know. These developers clearly tried hard to keep everything under wraps till you had actually bought and played the game. It was carefully set up to backstab the audience.
>>730586335YEAH DUDE VIDEO GAMES DON'T HAVE ANY INFLUENCE ON CULTURE AT ALL
yesalso yes/v/ is a dead shithole, nobody cares, most people had to crawl into /vrpg/ or /vg/ to talk about the game itselfit was ""ok"", master strike was too fucking overpowered, the rest of the weapon lineup felt kind of shite
>>730589575>heir studio is tankedSource on that?
>>730586420Political correctness isn't art
>>730579262why did he flip opinions so hard from the first game?
>>730590334That's something he will never answer, lol.
>>730590334Probably money, maybe blackmail.
>>730579262Homosexualism is only ok when it involves lesbians. See: Mass Effect 1 Femshep and Liara romance.
>>730590334He got paid to push woke shit
>>730590334I genuinely don't get how every retard here thinks it's some conspiracy theory. It's literally just peer pressure and him wanting social approval. If he made KCD2 the same way as KCD1 the game would end up at max with a 80 rating and sites like IGN and GameSpot wouldn't spend 3 weeks making videos about the game shilling it. Vavra is not religious in the first place, Czech people are mostly atheist, and he has jewish roots. Most of his takes are just the average boomer conservative takes, he thinks making jokes about women being bad drivers is based, how feminism is cringe, how lgbt is forced but its fine to be gay or trans if you are discreet about it, how immigrants are good but not illegal immigrants, most average boomer takes. He *adores* hollywood, he loves american gaming industry and he is fascinated by IGN, Game Awards, Metacritic, etc. He wants and NEEDS approval by his peers, to feel like he made it. He's one of them. Vavra, and Warhorse, are one of the big guys. They can sit on the table with BioWare, Obsidian, Bethesda, CDPR, Larian, etc. And to get their approval and respect he had to add what he had to add. How don't you get that? He had approval from chuds on the internet with pepe and anime girl profile pictures who nobody cares about, but he wanted the industry to respect him. At all costs. He NEEDS to be accepted.
>>730590334He's a grifter.
>>730590809Apparently the negro is a late addition to the game. They didn't have much time to think about his introduction into the game, which tells us the decision to add him was basically a sudden retcon.
>>730590841>I genuinely don't get how every retard here thinks it's some conspiracy theory. It's literally just peer pressureWhat if there is a conspiracy to pressure ?
>>730583425To appease journalists and the rather "woke" publisher you sold your company to. The first part is based on his own words, the 2nd part is based on knowing that he sold his studio + basic pattern recognition.
>>730591167I just don't see it. Most libtards and progressives I know do it to themselves and others, they just find the ideas very appealing and generally believe it's their holy mission to spread globalism and liberalism to all of the world and make one huge country where all earthians are dancing together and everyone is included, nobody is excluded or discriminated against, etc. Most normies just get peer pressure'd into accepting their ideas because at first sound it does seem like they're just victims of circumcstance and if you disagree with those ideas you are morally evil, so the average 45yo mom thinks it's okay for people to be gay or for immigrants and refugees to be let in because otherwise she'd be evil and God would send her to hell or there'd be universal karmic justice and her kids would hate her or something. Globohomo is inevitable, it mostly came from western white men making ideas of invading and liberating other countries, and then adding black slaves to the west and moving to the new world as well as spreading christianity, causing all this moral stuff to spiral from it. There's no cabal, world is chaos, and liberals/progressives just found the meta to currently dominate discourse and zeitgeist by moral dogma of their own. In 500 years it might be different. Most devs are nerds, social outcasts, and they get into liberal ideas like>if we were in a progressive world i wouldnt get bullied in hs by jocks!!!! I'd be included!!!! Screw heteronormalcy too then!!! And screw anti immigration bigots too!! Everyone has to be accepted so I can be accepted too!!!It's literally that simple. And Vavra simply wants approval of nerds.
>>730591167This. There were changes with the game's publishing at the same time everything else happened. I still remember Dragon Age Origins and what a complete 180 degree turn their marketing did after EA acquired them. EA was too late to affect the game's content but the trailers went from LOTResque to edgy bloody Marilyn Manson music laden and the PC version got immediately delayed until the console versions could come out.
>>730590243Pushing gay romance in ME/DA was not politically correct at all and did get some fringe christian groups mad (but they are fringe, I am not describing the whole).Either way, giving up money to do what you want is based for an artist.
>>730579485Reminder that the wokeness trend died like 2 years ago, we are now at the chud phase.
>>730591616>There's no cabalAll of what you have said can be true without rendering this false. I think the idea that none of these people collude behind the scenes to engineer things the way they want is much more unlikely than the inverse. People who are convinced of their moral superiority have done and will do all sorts of shady shit to push their goals, and there's plenty that doesn't quite make sense without there being some kind of collaboration between the usual suspects.
>>730590334Jewish 6D because whenever somebody tried to answer earnestly it's ignored
>>730591818Idk, I just feel like people are way too fucking retarded. Like name one person that you think could be in a cabal like that and would be qualified. Obviously normie rich fags like Musk, Zuck, Gates, are too retarded you'd say. Is it the blackrock guys then, the Rockefeller and Rothschild? Do you unironically think their daughters and sons are not retards and would be capable of something like that? They're all cattle, some cattle just got luckier over the years and with cumulative wealth can never truly become irrelevant. Some may even attempt to control or manipulate things, but reality doesn't permit it. I just cannot see an angle where guys in black suits are calling a faggot like Vavra over to a dinner and giving him money or blackmailing him to put Musa in his game. It's absurdly retarded. The actual reality is that our society's path from combined hundreds of years of slop, like all the literature you were forced to read in HS, has made society retarded in its current unique retardation that atm rewards specific beliefs in public. And Vavra wants to be accepted.
>>730590841I think people misunderstood him. His response the first time was him lashing out at people because he felt backed into a corner during the zeitgest of gamergate.If you actually read the statements he made when cooler heads started to emerge he was NEVER a far right nazi or whatever people wanted to think. As you said, he cared about history but never had any issue with gay people or black people or jewish people. He only was wearing a shirt that said based because he was under attack by a bunch of weirdo lunatic leftists.
>>730590841Well, now he got what they always get, a culturally dead game. For those he wanted to suck up to it's performative, it's all show. They will suck a game's dick for 5 minutes in the grand scheme of things, but then they move on and that's that. On the other side all the good will and word of mouth hype was thanks to the core audience of the first game, that now just doesn't exist anymore.
>>730579262then why is he still crying and pissing his pants about it 2 years later
>>730590334I'll try to explain itMusa: Because vavra made inflammatory comments and this time around they wanted to avoid the same discussion this time around - According to the current warhorse ceoGay romance -Seems like there was a real demand for that which seems trueSaving jews- they aren't portrayed as very righteous and Hollywood has been making movies about saving them before 2000s, something that could've exited in kcd1 as well.
>>730591757Mass Effect 3 was released in 2012. By then the gay = good and lack of gay = bad moralising was well underway. Gay shit was added to be politically correct, not as part of some artistic vision.And so I would agree with>giving up money to do what you want is based for an artist.Except I highly, highly doubt there was any artistic integrity involved here.
>>730591757What a lame definition for art. Bashing Christianity isn't even edgy anymore. Jewish influencers have for decades broken every cultural norm, it's not even art anymore. We live in a remake culture because it's such a post-apocalyptic landscape of art where everything once solid has already been uprooted. I don't find this same tired Jewish boomer stuff artistic anymore. When I watch a Japanese artist on Youtube work their centuries old skills with perfection, I see art. It doesn't need gays making out and African women twerking on it to be more artistic.
>>730592139I don't think that's an objective view of reality. Chuds don't really influence things positively much. Like the way I see it, around 50% if not even 75% of people are completely apathetic normalfags. They will do whatever society permits as they aren't concerned about culture wars or politics. They focus on themselves, work a job, fuck their bf/gf and have some hobbies or whatever, they might be slightly left or right leaning, or a single issue voter for some reason of something in their life, but for the most part they're apathetic moderates. Then you have around 10-12.5% that are more heavily leaning towards one side, got radicalized by something, but only about 2.5% if not much less are actually heavy propagandists themselves and trying to sway the culture war over. And those numbers are heavily in favor of currently left/liberal/progressives. They've effectively taken over the entertainment and education sphere. If you want to breakout or be succesful you have to align with them, and most normies don't care about shit you care about in games or film or music, etc. The problem is all powerful right wing propagandists are more focused on shit like dry economy, geopolitics, blue collar shit. It's only lately that you have more of that type in stuff like MMA or tech like X at least to a degree. While that sphere and gaming is dominated by left propagandists. And that won't change soon, it can only change in like 10-15 years. I would bet my hairline that majority of the games will be woke for the coming decade, everything major entertainment wise that releases in 2020s will be "woke". I'm almost 100% certain.
First post best post.
>>730579262>Dev coping about bad decisions many such cases
>>730592437Anon, I made it clear in my post I am not anti-christian. I am using the reaction of a few fringe groups as an example of it not being politically correct because it was not back then.>>7305923382012?
>>730592093No one ever pretended he was far right nazi other than baitmemefags. When you try to make a somewhat accurate medieval game and US journos are suddenly breathing down your neck about where the black people are at and then move on to invent absolutely ridiculous fanfiction narratives how there could be black people in that area during that time, lashing out isn't what a "far right nazi" does, it is what a regular person does when confronted with arbitrary bullshit. That however doesn't change that he then did exactly what they wanted for the sequel and included their weird pseudo-progressive fanfiction.
>>730579485nice gcj meme
>>730592073>Idk, I just feel like people are way too fucking retarded.People can be retarded and still underhanded, anon.>Like name one person that you think could be in a cabal like that and would be qualified.Do you think it requires a supergenius? We already know from Gamergate that journalists were conspiring to push agendas in their articles. We've seen leftists band together to shut down things they are problematic. What's so absurd about the idea of the usual suspects talking behind the scenes to nudge things in the "right" direction and to coordinate pressure against people not doing the "right" thing?>guys in black suitsYour concept of a conspiracy is ridiculous, and it has been deliberately fostered by those who wish to ridicule and deny credibility to people who question things.I don't want to insult you since we're having a civil discussion, but I'm sorry: you're the very definition of a useful idiot.I hope you will reflect on that.
Maybe nobody cares, but here are some things that make sense to meNot everything is going to be made according to Vavra, especially after he went from CEO to creative director.Most devs and artists are left leaning, so it’s obvious that some of that will end up in video games.The game isn’t DAVMost of the game’s DNA is the same as the first game.
>>730591757Yo how about we make some real art and make fun of Muslims, Jews or China? That's some real financial sacrifices riggt there. Art is supposed to be controversial, right??
nice
>>730583756>usgo back to gcj
>>730592516>apathetic normalfagsThey're politically apathetic, but they adhere tightly to the latest trends, and follow the overton window wherever it goes. If the idea that woke is good pervades their consciousness, they'll support woke, and if the idea that woke is bad takes root, they'll reject woke. There will always be people that don't care at all, but you're vastly overestimating their number.A great deal of normies simply do not think for themselves.
>>730592663When did I claim that leftists don't try to promote their ideas or silence ideas they dislike? What? I just said that it makes no sense that leftists are being forced to do that by a cabal, or that the leftists themselves are forcing centric or right wing people to obey their rules behind the doors. They are pretty open about deplatforming or what they think should be done. But they don't have as much literal power as you think. KCD2 would've still been a success with or without rep that IGN or GameSpot can give to Daniel, he just simply wanted their approval more than the approval of chuds. He didn't want to feel like a loser bigot outcast, but like one of the big gaming industry guys. Nobody forced him. There were no deals behind the back. He just got socially pressured through general shit that leftists do like morally police publically and attempt to socially ostracize people who disagree with them. That's it. It's not that deep. It doesn't require coordination, cabals, anything. They just retweet stuff on social media and discord servers like chuds post on sharty and 4chan to each other and circlejerk to each other. It's just that leftists are in general slightly more intelligent and know how to navigate a modern globalist/internet obsessed world better and are more commonly the type of people to be interested in journalism, education positions, entertainment, acting, theatre, voice acting, hr management, etc. where they have more ability to propagandize their ideas. It's that simple. At least read my posts without being a snarky fag. We both know who I'm adressing, the average poltard who's convinced the world is ran by jewish cabals in black suits who replace their hearts with children hearts and have demonic rituals, and all the poor lefties and devs are just simply FORCED to be leftist and progressive, they cant resist the evil cabal.
>>730592608>2012?We were talking about ME3 in particular, but 2009 isn't that much different. Progressive pressure was already quite deeply rooted everywhere.
>>730586914Women do this with male friendship all the time. They literally don't understand it.
>>730589817This.They tried to hide it.
>>730579485>guys im based i dont make woke games>turns out guy sold out for ESG kike jew leftist gay score>adds underage gay sex scene to the game>adds a random nigger that sold sex slaves that undermines the white people of the game>you have to do better white manshut your bitch ass up tranny
>>730590334They got bought by a publisher that is known to push woke shit
>>730579262We went from Mister Sir Henry Motherfucker to Mister Sir Henry Crustfucker
>>730593274>CrustbusterOne job
>>730592796Boy do I have the game for you anon
>>730579731Mass Effect 1 came out 20 years ago, unc.
>>730588037>did you playeddumb favela monkeythere's no double past tense in Englishit's "did you play"
>>730579262Cared enough to make an article about it.>>730582895It is a similar connotation to a keyboard warrior.
homosexuality is disgusting
>>730579485This kills the culture warrior
>>730594101>[jerks off to lesbians]
>>730579262>terminally online culture warriorsprojection, that's the western creative industry
>>730593026>or that the leftists themselves are forcing centric or right wing people to obey their rules behind the doors.What exactly is so absurd about that? Leftists have demonstrated they will use any means at their disposal to force compliance. If they're willing to be openly underhanded, why wouldn't they be quietly underhanded as well?You're still seeing conspiracies as some shadowy organisation from the movies, but all it requires is for people to collude and conspire. Do you think people with an agenda, with influence and with a large network of fellow activists don't collude? Do you think they stop discussing their activism when they're holding private conversations?>Nobody forced him. He just got socially pressured through general shit that leftists doIt doesn't require it, but it's not unlikely. Since the changes in KCD2 occurred after his company was acquired by Embracer Group, it's entirely reasonable to surmise that he was forced behind the scenes. They wouldn't openly admit it, would they?>It's just that leftists are in general slightly more intelligent and know how to navigate a modern globalist/internet obsessed world better and are more commonly the type of people to be interested in journalism, education positions, entertainment, acting, theatre, voice acting, hr management, etc.So you are essentially agreeing that they collude and conspire.> We both know who I'm adressing, the average poltard who's convinced the world is ran by jewish cabals in black suitsSome people do believe this, but that is a very extreme example of a conspiracy, and you are projecting it onto anyone who speculates about collusion. That is what makes you a useful idiot. I am not being snarky. I genuinely think you have to examine the way you think about this.
>>730579262All the seething ITT proves him correct kek
>>730582005>>730582005>retcon protagonist>>Henry is straight in KCD1Henry was gay from the start. Theres literally an achievement for not getting raped by a woman the entire game.
>>730579262So what were the benefits then?
>>730594136You are a culture warrior and so is the person you are responding to
KCD2 flopped and is most well known for a crustbusting scenethe devs fucked up and they know it, and it's such a shame considering the warm reception the first game had. They always have to ruin it
>>730584957There is something about old white people and fetishisizing black people as they get older. It is actually really creepy and unsettling how consistent this is and it seems to go beyond just wanting pets or slaves.
>>730585263>the fact the woke shit was only revealed a few weeks before releaseAccurate. They managed to hide the bait and switch for quite a while. That trick only works once though, they're going to get destroyed with their next release.
>>730594217Right tries the same. Rightwing people are just fucked for the most part in winning the discourse against the leftwing mostly because they're awful at pandering to morality, they cannot go a day without saying some absurdly vile shit and making the average normalfag think they're fucking nuts, like the average right winger on twitter has somehow convinced themselves that it's okay to publicaly with your pfp and name and location say shit like Remigration or Only White Lives Matter or calling people niggers etc. It's objectively not acceptable in society and makes normalfags wary still, its not pushing the overton window in a positive manner, leftists made similar mistakes by pushing trans and inclusion shit way too fast without boiling the frog properly which allowed the rightwing to catch up for a bit now and they're instantly ruining it by doing sieg heils and other meme shit or associating with people like that and making normalfags immediatly think hmm maybe the leftoids are right. The average rightwinger just cannot get into morally policing people, they can't play victim properly, they're too retarded for modern manipulations.Another issue is that rightwing is simply by nature exclusionary. Black nationalists hate non-blacks, white nationalists hate non-whites, you are more likely to exclude women too, most women are slightly feminist in nature nowadays due to the way they've been socialized and trying to pull the whole shut up low IQ woman go to the kitchen just gets you to lose 40% of your population, you are also as right wing likely to lose the lgbt which are like fucking 15% of population at this point when it comes to the youth using the internet in english language, and you just exclude more and more, not to mention in group exclusion like black americans hating black africans, or north european whites hating south/east european whites. There's just no realistic angle where the right ever wins.
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>>730594321woke review score bonus points and acceptance from his western industry peers into the club
>>730579262I keep forgetting this game even released
Didn't read past the headline, but if no one cared, why include it?
>>730594321Id go on a limb and say much better Fanbase Soft spoken shit libs re much better than rampant chuds
>>730594190You are more right than you probably realize. Truth is, if the Internet died and these people could not disseminate their views, woke would disappear in under a year. I've never seen for example a tranny in real life ever, let alone a vocal one. They are entirely confined to the Internet and often occupy moderator, developer positions etc. which are totally removed from the physical world.
>>730593026>and all the poor lefties and devs are just simply FORCED to be leftist and progressive, they cant resist the evil cabal.Let me just address this for a moment.You're not understanding the mechanisms at play. You're taking an absurdist view.The people who push this kind of shit aren't holding people at gunpoint, paying them large sums of money or blackmailing them (for the most part). They're pushing subtle propaganda. They're choosing who gets which position, who receives funding and reach. They're lobbying. They're prioritizing people who will push the ideas and the policies they want pushed. They're ensuring through their influence that universities and other institutions teach the things they want taught. They're embedding ideas they want to proliferate in media, sometimes blatantly and sometimes so insidiously that it catches even the wary off guard.It's not brute force. It's not shady, illicit handoffs. It's a series of subtle and not-so-subtle nudges and tweaks to influence things the way they want.I can only speculate as to the who and the why, but this shit absolutely happens. It's as clear as day.THAT is the cabal in question.
>>730579630>an unkillable niggerThis was not the first game to do this howeverthough.
>>730594576I could only stomach 2 sentences of this retardation
>>730594351>KCD2 floppedlolThe cope is real
>>730594576I am calling an AI generated script.
>>730579262of course he's right. It can be completely ignored and bypassed. You have to actively seek out a gay relationship in the game to experience it. The game itself is very good.
>>730594351over 4 million copies sold is not a flop, it's a big success
>>730595042>>730594902Its a flop, seethe and dilate
>>730594805Id like to addVavra isn't in 100% control and most devs/artist are liberals
>>730594576>Right tries the same.To nowhere near the same extent, which is one of its failings.>Rightwing people are just fucked for the most part in winning the discourse against the leftwing They are succeeding.>they cannot go a day without saying some absurdly vile shit and making the average normalfag think they're fucking nutsThe average normalfag is getting more extreme by the day, because the "vile" shit being said by the right is often proved correct.>Remigration or Only White Lives Matter or calling people niggers etcI don't know why you're attributing this to the right at large. It's really not that common.>white nationalists hate non-whitesSome of them do. It's not universal.>you are also as right wing likely to lose the lgbt The LGBT is a lost cause.>There's just no realistic angle where the right ever wins.I disagree, but they don't have to "win". They have to successfully oppose the left, which is finally starting to happen.
>>730595115You lost and keep losing
>>730594576>There's just no realistic angle where the right ever wins.Isn't there like a whole moral panic because they're winning pretty much everywhere globally nowadays? Where are all these huge, modern, inclusive audiences that were supposed to propel entertainment franchises and the companies making them to unprecedented financial success? Why are people being fired by the tens of thousands? Why are countless studios closing? Why are major publishers like EA and Ubisoft being sold off? Why does Lara Croft now suddenly look like an instagram model with big boobs straight out of a chud's X meme?
>>730593056In 2009? You still had major Democratic politicians openly against gay marriage.Just to be clear: My entire point is that giving up potential profit to tell the story you want to tell is based. This would literally apply to someone making a story that glorifies Christianity and them losing out on some actor or whatever but them still trying to tell the story.You might say I'm something of a punk rocker...
It'll never not be funny how whenever a game has optional gay romance /v/ will unanimously say it is "forced" because faggots here can't keep themselves from going the gay routePic related
I was pissed at the time because I really liked the first game, but looking back the leaks are fucking hilarious. >random black spawned into Bohemia who says muh dik and talks about fucking white women>also goes on lectures about how much better niglandia is (he can't stay there of course)>main character's bro is now a faggot out of nowhere and tries to buttfuck him>wholesome love story from the first game ends with a breakup letter MC gets cucked>every new romance is either homosexual or miserableEvery day there was new shit and I legitimately didn't believe any of it until release. It was so fucking ridiculous.
>>730579262I shipped them since the first game.
>>730595481>My entire point is that giving up potential profit to tell the story you want to tell is based. This would literally apply to someone making a story that glorifies Christianity and them losing out on some actor or whatever but them still trying to tell the story.I agree with you and I'm glad you're willing to apply that stance consistently.For various reasons I think woke is more or less antithetical to artistic integrity but I do have some respect for lefties who passionately make what they want to make, even if it's political. I don't have any respect for pandering corporations sanitizing shit for political correctness.I tend to think games like Dragon Age are an early example of such political correctness, the kind of thing pushed by HR departments and handwringers rather than passionate artists, but it's entirely possible I'm wrong about that. Either way, we agree on what matters.
730595235730594576730594217730593026730592663730592073730591818730591616So glad the new capcha does nothing against these ai chat bots arguing with each other.
>>730595542We have been over this before. Hans is gay in all playthrough even if you don't decide to pursue him, which means there is a gay in your game no matter which way the wind blows. Thus it was written. Anything else would be bad writing. The only way to write your way out this would be to acknowledge him as a canonically straight character but only make him gay if he gets some kind of life-altering head injury which permanently alters his state of mind gay. Then you could argue that different playthroughs feature a different character. In fantasy games this would be easier explained with a curse spell, but woke developers would never dare to give us such a sensible solution to these dilemmas.
First game:"We're not interested in modern activism about race and sexuality, we just want to make a medieval game that feels authentic."Second game:“Uh... here's the black guy who's going to tell you how his nation is superior to Europe. Here's the subversive gay sex scene with your best buddy. And of course, here's the part where you fight anti-Semitism like the good subhuman goy retard that you are."
>>730595936>everyone is an AI botI understand being suspicious of bot activity, but as one of the people in that conversation, I'm still going to call you brainrotted. Have a good day.
>>730595809I am still surprised that they just cut out the church completely. THe church in the first game was one of the best parts for people who wanted to explore Bohemia.
>>730595542>joke of the screencap is that anon's a retarded autist who doesn't know what the game was implying>faggots still try to post it to further their faggot agenda
>>730595809I thought the nig even cucks you in the game with one of the romanceables. They went way overboard with that.
>>730579262>terminally online culture warriors seething in this thread, trying to convince everyone they're not terminally online culture warriors
>>730596162Reading comprehension.
>>730596132>which means there is a gay in your gamejust like KCD1
Sorry I'm not playing the faggy nigger gameSimple as
>>730594576>Only White Lives MatterI've seen every permutation of this faggy phrase used but not this one. Just goes to show that you're dishonest. >>730596368SMASHED AND SLAMMED
>>730596332Please explain what I failed to comprehend.
>>730596142everyones heard about delta p, but no one talks about delta woke
I've been enjoying the game. Nice balance of immersive features without becoming tedious. I miss the days when I could talk about vidya here. I hate bots and people who are functionally no different from the rage engagement bots. I don't understand how the whole internet became so subhuman. I want it back.
>>730596404>I've seen every permutation of this faggy phrase used but not this one. Just goes to show that you're dishonest.Same.Even if honest, too propagandised to even try reasoning with
>>730596425Read a book, nigger.
>>730596489>I miss the daysSame. But then woke retards started ruining games series I liked and here we are
>>730579262>We want normiebuxThat's all I'm reading.
>>730590334He's jewish
>>730596608that's weird because it seems like you're a nigger who immediately stopped talking about the game to instead talk about your politics
So now that the dust has settled, the wokeys and libtards lost, what hugely anticipated big project BASED and REDPILLED games are we expecting on the horizon bros? When are they dropping?
>>730596670Hey, I just wanted to play video games.
>>730596489Yeah, it's a real shame what progressive culture warriors have done to male entertainment in general. Hopefully they will continue being shown the door and we can return to some sense of normalcy. I'm optimistic
>>730596795You will be fed blacks in games and you will learn to like it.
>>730583560>who cares? just don't pick the gay option, bro.the 'option' doesn't mean the game isn't woke.Games like Dispatch are banned in Saudi Arabia because of the 'option' lol.
They had to patch the first game after the sex scene leaked because by the sequel's canon, Hans was underage when the scene happens.
Motherfucker sell the unfinished content that should be on the base game as a DLC. Even the DLC is half-assed. I'm glad i don't buy this game.
>>730579262And sadly that's how far the interest to the game gone lol
>>730596795and I wanted to talk about them. But instead I have to talk to some dumb faggot about his insecurities in media and you have to bitch and moan here instead of playing games. You're making both our lives worse.
Kek this piece of shit still hasn’t outsold the first game
>>730579262only the ss cared about germany
>>730579262You had this same exact thread yesterday, and the day before and the day before that.Is there some mental illness that causes this? Or are you being paid to do it?
>>730581954100%, does anyone have that smuggie meme where a Jew tries to twist Christian beliefs to suit their plans but openly states they hate Christians?
>>730596701I'm personally really excited for, the devs are based as fuck and openly pro-white, pro-christian, pro-straight, they said the game won't have any LGBT or nons in it. Honestly since Trump won I'm glad that gaming is now healing, especially my favorite devs like, they're the best.
>>730596489>I miss the days when I could talk about vidya hereIf you weren't actually talking out of your ass then you'd know that you could never have real discussions about KCD, not even the first one. It immediately was attacked by games journalists and gained a reputation as being a racist game because they didn't add imaginary niggers. Threads about it were spammed hard. Go check the archives on the first game's release day. I remember having a discussion about it on /vrpg/ where some faggot crying about the first game being 'basically fantasy' admitted that the biggest inaccuracy (according to him) was how there weren't any blacks.
>>730596916all downhill from here too with what comes next. they're done
I only care that astroturfers flooded the catalog with ragebait threads about the game for a week and that's enough for me to never even try a game
>>730597020yeah I'm not sure if you know this but /v/ existed before KCD released. yes, the internet has been unusable for a long time now.
>>730584624niggers and women are the same gender in economic terms therefore he is ultra gay
>>730596489You can still talk about it but not in KCD threadjust make a thread about some gameplay thing of features culture warriors stay away from those threads
>>730579324/thread
>>730596701I wonder if Warhorse Studios will still try and Tojan Horse their next game, pretending it's based then mask-off on release.
>>730596979The first game was labeled a 'chud game' for not having blacks and despised by the reddit subversives who spam here. The studio doing a heel turn was something that they considered a great victory, hence the spam. Nowadays you'll hear a lot of 'the authenticity doesn't even matter just enjoy the game' but the leak threads were pure unhinged gloating.
>>730597020Fuck off Most KCD threads were about memes and people getting filtered by runt or monastery quest
>>730597179No one actually cares enough to discuss the game. They'll say 'I just want to discuss it!' but they never even try, just complain that they want to.
There is already a perfect game with unlimited potential thanks to the modders, trying anything else is just pales in comparison. this is why bethesda will go bankrupt too
>>730580479Yeah who would have though that a Czech game about Hussites, where you align with the rebels of the king of HRE since the very start, who pillaged the country several times in "crusades" against it's Christian brothers wouldn't let you be papist lapdog.It is truly a mystery how that happened.
>>730597185Honestly it'd be a win win scenario, have retarded chuds fall for it again and humiliate them while showing the vidya critics in the week before release that the game is actually based and wokepilled. win win, normalfags enjoy the game, chuds seethe but ultimately have no power, and wokeGODS enjoy themselves and vavra wins with everyone
>>730597185>posted fake quote award
>>730597249Go look at the threads in the archive. They're filled with posts hoping it fails and vids of the same few bugs. Along with the usual 5 word doomposts you get for any new indie release. I've been following this game since the early kickstarter days because I was really invested in the idea of a game attempting some accuracy. Didn't work out but maybe someone else will pick up the torch.
>>730597195Speaking of gloating — I dread the discourse around Lords of the Fallen 2. It will naturally flop as all Epic exclusives do. But everything people with talk is "get anti-woke = get broke".
>>730597262I’ve talked about KCD many times in gaming, Witcher and other RPG threads, because those threads aren’t filled with faggots who didn’t play the game and exclusively talk about the culture war
In truth nobody fucking gives a shit about the Czech like what the fuck their achievement apart from having the most of porn actresses?
>>730597581I care stfu bitch
>>730595346Why didn't he answer your post? Because he's been blown the fuck out.
>>730597652>nameless poster from a ragebait central
>>730597481 >I was really invested in the idea of a game attempting some accuracy.Yk KCD2 is more accurate than KCD1, such as close recreation of Kotsenburg and other locations
>>730597671the word of a nameless poster vs the word of a nameless poster then
>>730597581Adriana Chechik contributed to the world more than you ever did
>>730597683The first game did the exact same thing and managed to avoid having multiple giant immersion breaking questlines, characters, and cringy dialogue.
I don't know anyone who cares about this series at all who doesn't have some sort of political motivation in one direction or the other. So yeah that statement tracks.
>>730593202This was the only correct answer in that chain of replies, and it's shameful it took that many before this popped up.
>>730597820>The first game did the exact same thingNot to the extent of KCD2’s great level of detail, but I guess you only care about accuracy when it relates to the culture war.
>>730597729A duel of fates which nobody shall learn...
>>730597901Pretty much everyone knows what’s up, but it’s fun to stir the culture war pot every other day That’s the point of these threads.
>Go on an autistic ramble about how the protagonist is straight when releasing the first game>Surprised to learn that people think it's weird that the protagonist who was set up as straight is now gay
>>730593726He didn't say>wow you're youngHe said>wow sucks to be you
>>730598056he is only gay if you are gaystop being gay
>>730597929>Not to the extent of KCD2’s great level of detail,Yes it did. You're just making shit up.>but I guess you only care about accuracy when it relates to the culture war.They made the game less accurate for culture warrior reasons, yet you don't seem to care about that for some reason.
this game should've gotten GOTYI'm in the middle of a playthroug and it's amazing
>>730598056tbf MC is not woke gay, there's no trans or femboy or trap wokegenders its just traditional gachi gay sex
>>730579262I didn't see anything about this why are they making shit up?
>>730598192The gay dialogue options are right there. He canonically has gay thoughts no matter what, or else you wouldn't get to go for the gay romance in the first place .
>>730579262One is at about 10m sales and Two is 2-3m sales and slowed to a crawl and unlikely to reach those numbers even with time.Statistically they're wrong and retarded, they're also actively avoiding discussing the random negro, jewish bologna, and all the other problems settled on top of the faggotry.Objectively he's wrong, even if he avoids adding in the other issues. Have this cat for good luck.
>>730579485Shepard is a girl pal
>>730579262I feel like making a negative post is a lot less effort that scripting a gay sex scene. I think he may be the culture warrior.
>>730598056He also goes from a devout Christian who literally personally executes pagans, and gets in brawls over the pope's honor to a gay atheist who kills cardinals, lets Muslims commit heresies in a church meeting, will never do anything bad ever to a jew no matter how many times they betray them, and never once complains about hanging out with a guy literally named "Devil".
>>730598212The point is, there wouldn’t have been any hysteria about it if it were an imaginary german ghetto in the game Also, when they talk about inaccuracy, they just lump in homosexuality as if we don’t have literal records of homosexuals being persecuted not to mention their presence in the first game
>>730598335
>>730598335>He canonically has gay thoughts no matter whatThat's not how choices work in video games unless you are making up new rules to justify your rage
>>730579262>play the first game because I heard the second one is coming out>lost a bit of steam after getting the sword back but it's still good enough>check /v/>actually the guy you are playing as, who had a gf, is building setup for romance with a girl he lives with, gets the option to fuck women and get "bathed" by them is a faggot>also the guy who starts out as his rival but turns into a friend is also a faggot>even though the guy chases women all dayDropped the game and never looked back. I kept Bianca's ring for nothing it seems.
>>730598458I remember reading a reddit post where some woman was saying" AM I THE ASSHOLE HAVING THOUGHTS WHERE I COULD LITRRALLY STRANGLE MY KID TO DEATH".
>>7305983474mil and slow crawl thing is bullshit
>>730579262>Why makes millions when you can make...thousands!let me guess, theyll double down on more stuff like this now, and just become the exact thing they were considered to be anathema to with the first game. Because EVERYONE who wants an authentic historical game wants modernist views impressed upon the design process of a game.I pray for Total War Medieval 3, I know its not going to be the thing people expect, itll be "modern".
>>730579262>culture warriorsThey don't like being called social justice warriors anymore because it became an insult? Like how color people became people of color.
>>730598403>there wouldn’t have been any hysteria about it if it were an imaginary german ghetto in the gamePeople complained that the shoes in the first game weren't pointy enough. Yes there would have been. There is (was) a dedicated fanbase of historical autists. I still like the first game for what it is, just a shame it couldn't get a proper sequel.
>>730598192The main quest involves 4 gay romance options popping up in mandatory dialog. The game has mandatory Cardinal Murder, and repeated helping Jews, and blacks insult, and betray whites. You literally have to betray the entire cause of Henry's father to help the feminist black heretic who personally insults Henry multiple times.
>>730598518>>actually the guy you are playing as, who had a gf, is building setup for romance with a girl he lives with, gets the option to fuck women and get "bathed" by them is a faggotOnly if you ignore every single woman in KCD2 and pursue the gay romance
>>730598542Substantiate your claim.
>>730597185They can certainly try but this will dominate the conversation around every future game this studio does.
>>730580549Broshep really is a bro.
>>730598626Again, you cannot miss 4 of them. Literally zero women appear in the main quest.
>>730598575>People complained that the shoes in the first game weren't pointy enough.Those people are not in this thread, it's mostly filled up by culture warriors
>>730598626>I jack off to gay porn every day but I'm not actually gay because I'm a virgin!ebin
>>730598458You are comparing thoughts about brutally killing your offspring to gay thoughts>>730598471It absolutely is when the character you play as isn't a blank slate but has a clear backstory, relationships, personality, etc. If there's the option to suck cocks then Henry is open to sucking cocks, there is no but or ifs.>>730598401I don't even consider myself a chud and don't give much of a shit about any of this in the end, but this is such obvious pandering and you have to be blind not to see it. It's simple, dev was seen as a massive chud after the first game, for the second one he was scared that journos would dogpile him so he added gay shit, jews and even a token black to appease them
>>730579262if it didnt have an impact why is he yapping
>>730598638They posted about 4 mil on twitter and KCD2 was in steam's better seller list and it's currently in most played games
>>730598830And it still hasn’t outsold the first game
>>730598718>Again, you cannot miss 4 of them. Literally zero women appear in the main quest.Kys lying faggot >>730598759>pick gay romance in rpg>wtf my character is a fag now>>730598802>It absolutely is when the character you play as isn't a blank slate but has a clear backstory, relationships, personalityYou determine a lot of thing for Henry he's not entirely defined
>>730579262Nobody gave a shit about either of these two turds period.
>>730598876yeah no shitLess than 1 year vs 8 years
>First game unapologetic with its faithfulness to the morals, culture and even demographics of the period>Mostly historically accurate too>Developer literally kept defending why the game was fully European against the endless B-BUT MUH POC>Very strong Christian representation>Sequel comes out and has gay, optional sure but still in there and ruins the Henry and Hans friendship when it could have just been a new character>Henry, his people and faith gets mocked and belittled constantly by foreigners, especially Musa (no option to tell them to shut it, to refute them, just have to take it all)>Musa is egregious and indefensible>Game even had to cut all churches>City had synagogues and Jewish quarter added for the story
>>730598932>just avoids addressing the post itself and repeating the scriptI accept your concession.
>>730599007>he thinks fags didn't exist just because homosexuality was frowned uponwere you born retarded or did you become that way later
BUY MY GAME YOU FUCKING GOY
>>730599008Is your Skyrimcp2077 and fallout character also gay? because those character aren't total blank slate either
>>730599117he's so badass>has a beard>likes action movies>drinks beer>shoots guns on shooting rangesking.
>>730579262Still not buying it.:-)
>>730599007>>Very strong Christian representationExist in KCD2 as well if you bothered playing the game instead of just following the drama
>/v/ throws shrieking tantrums over games with women in them because the women aren't silent background props for saving and raping>/v/ throws shrieking tantrums over games with men in them because the slightest hint of a bond between guys is seen as gay>/v/ throws shrieking tantrums over games with furries in them because yiff in hellSeems like the only games that will make /v/ happy are ones with nothing but children in them.
>>730599061>ignoring his entire post except the gay shit, which he says he wouldn't care about if it wasn't these existing charactersYou're a /lgbt/ faggot aren't you? It's a board I never really thought about but that recent april fools event really opened my eyes as to how fucking awful you faggots are.
>>730599256I didn't knew /v/ was that based, damn.
>>730599256>men in them because the slightest hint of a bond between guys is seen as gayThe characters in this game literally have gay sex. Only women and faggots see normal male bonds as gay.
>>730599000G I G A C O P EIGACOPE
>>730594250This, yall forget >Because you didn't play you fucking watch Youtube clips of itIn KCD1, if Henry fools around with the Miller's daughter, she stops talking to him. She does from being all over his dick to, ghosting him. And that lady from the drunken night with the party priest? She bounces too. That wasn't a "game being a video game" dudes. Those scenes were put it to put you on notice that Henry might not swing the way you think he swings.Pic unrelated
>>730599316Why did you pick the gay sex option if you did not want to see gay sex?
>>730599134I've never played 2077 but trying to pretend Henry is on the level of Skyrim and fallout PCs is incredibly dishonest.
>>730599419The game tricks you into becoming a faggot, like every game with fag options does.
>>730599365Okay maybe the studio is failing they must be laying people off right now.....
>>730579262Honestly they were such geniuses. A real masterstroke. The KNEW you faggots would freak out about the gay shit and it would be a distraction that they literally cut out the church interiors and invented a fake synagogue in order to do an antisemitism story-line, AND inset an enlightened Gary Stue African Muslim to shit all over the Europeans and fuck their women. But you idiots got played and focused on the inconsequential, optional, gay shit. This is how they have been able to subvert you for decades.
>>730599489
>>730599467There’s no real rule about how canon any choice is. If you’re really upset about it, then all the choices are canon at the same time. Also, the Fallout 4 character is about as well defined as Henry.
>>730598802>You are comparing thoughts about brutally killing your offspring to gay thoughtsand?
>>730599475The burden of proof falls on you. Let me know once you've found something.
>>730599569>Ignore the time frame and pretend it’s nothing>Act like it was a massive flop>Gets proven wrongMuh goalposts.
>>730599407Because the enduring romance is Theresa, you utter faggot. >>730599529Musa was always the focus in the real threads. These are bait threads and the spammers are only willing to talk about the gay shit. They ignore all comments on anything else and direct it back to gay sex. Probably because they're faggots.
>>730599475>The game tricks you into becoming a faggotLmao >sure>thanks>you are a good friend>I love you Hans (Heart symbol)damn they tricked you fr
>>730599706>Because the enduring romance is Theresa, you utter faggot.This is where I point out that you clearly have not played the dlc but then again I doubt you've even played the game so the point is moot.
>>730599686>still coping and seething this hardPeople dont want gaytards and nigtards in their vidya deal with it
>>730599825Faggot. She absolutely was unless you fucking betray her.
>>730579262They probably did that retarded business thing where they considered one particular audience demographic "locked" and now assumed could safely go for the lefty progressive one. The thing about that specific woke demographic though is that they're predominantly female and their main timespender is social media. The sole appeal to them IS the culture war aspect. The act of appropriating something from an out-group and rubbing it in their face online. That's it. Any positive impact on sales will be statistically irrelevant or plain non-existent. And that's without factoring in the reaction from your supposedly locked audience. This is always a net-negative
>>730599934Yeah explains why BG3 has more players than ER
>>730600017>This is always a net-negativeI wouldn't say so i think shit women are better consumers than chud rightnot mention first game wasn't le based nazi game either neither was vavra an alt right nazi
>>730600171Women go out to eat and buy lots of consumables like makeup. They aren't buying the majority of PC RPG games lmao
>>7305999344m copies sold says otherwise.
>>730599972So her romance is completely optional then? Oh just like the Hans romance. I still don't see your point....? Oh right, you don't actually have one.
>>730600306straight men are obviously still the majority for rpg vidya, but women and gays are a sizeable minority and they are also much more social online and active online as well as have a lot of artists, fanfic makers, animators etc, they decide the zeitgeist pretty much. if your stuff doesnt appeal to the gays and women it WILL flop, they're sort of the gatekeepers of what gets to be popular and what not. kcd2 appeals to a lot of gay men and yaoi enjoying women
>>730579262No, the producer is just making an expectant statement because they overthink their own game every day, and don't realize gamers stopped giving a shit because of the gay thing (seen it too many times to care) or the game isn't talked about positively because nobody's talking about it, because they played the first one so what's different this time?
>>730598932The game has it pop up in the main quest 4 times. There are zero straight romance options in the main quest. Katherine's is an out of the way side quest you have to return to her for, and can easily lock yourself out of if you do her quest first. You have to pass literally 12 skill checks to specifically pursue the unmarked side quest (while on a timed main quest mission, and this romance option literally skips the main quest mission often resulting in an automatic failure, punishing Henry for being straight.) Meanwhile the Hans romance option pops up in MANDATORY main quest dialog. You simply cannot proceed without talking to Hans, and the main quest has you talking to the second random gay guy. You can only avoid ONE of the three mandatory gay prompts by sprinting into someone opening a door at the dinner party to get out of the main room early, and if you have specifically good reputation with nobles, and have a scholarship 25 (You have to do side quests to get it this high in the Trotsky reason even if you buy all of the books sold by scribes, choose the speech options in character creation you don't have nearly enough for this check, and you can still fail even if you've read every note, and talked to everyone in the region.) you can trigger one that skips talking to this person, but the prompt to talk to this guy remains on your hud (because the game literally doesn't support you not being exposed to the gays.) for the rest of the game.
It's a product among tens of thousands. Nobody owes it any goodwill or parasocial relationship, else they become the product.
>>730600306Those women aren't buying any videos games i saw a picture of some recent KCD2 event on twitter and it was mostly plain looking womenI’m not saying they make up the majority, but they are much better for the company as opposed to something as volatile as the alt right audience, which I would argue is overblown similar to the SJW audience. Those vavra tweets had like 200 likes, and the entire drama got very little traction, so I would argue that people who aren’t playing it because of a Black NPC or a gay romance (rightfully so it’s their time and money) aren’t even a fraction of the 10 million players KCD1 had.
>>730579262I don't get it. If "backlash" isn't really and CHUDS did this why are they talking about it? Do they care?
>>730599706>Because the enduring romance is Theresa, you utter faggot.Oh yeah lets talk about the "enduring romance" is actually a trauma bond! That is for sure a perfectly straight and absolutly rock solid foundation for a lasting Christrian romance. Yeah totally a model relationship, she sleeps with a bunch of people before getting into a relationship with a man who is famous of getting hammered and spouting Blasphamy from a pupit. The writers are definatly not trying to tell us anything about these two characters. "Its just the game being a game bro" okayPic semi-related.
>>730600676>Video game site interviewer: did x had any effect?>dev: no>next game 7 headlines about dev saying no
>>730583756my counterargument is that i didn't buy it
>>730600171>shit women are better consumersThere are no such consumers of these male-skewing video games, comics, tv, film, whatever have you. That's the whole point. Like I said the whole appeal to them is the culture war. The rush they get scrolling social media, fighting cultural battles and collecting scalps (from KCD to Star Wars and so on). That's what they do.
>>730600789her tits arent that big chud
>>730600482All i had to do was not click on the option with heart symbol twiceidk how you have do all this shit to avoid gay sex
>>730600878I am not talking about activist type, i am talking about the shit lib type that makes fanart and comments emojis under new posts from the studio
>>730600951>Guys it's not mandatory it just incessantly pops up 4 times in the main quest alone.Well I'm glad you're admitting that the gay sex pops up four times in the main quest, and straight sex pops up zero times.
>>730579262If it doesn't matter at all, why does the like bring it up?
>>730601079Heart symbol pops up twice and even then you have to pursue that specfically to get the end scene, like rose and Kathrine romance
>>730601026They're the same people.
>>730579262Playing the game now, I just didn't choose the option. It has a big loveheart icon next to it lol, if you ran into that scene you went looking for it.Otherwise the game does a lot of things great but ultimately feels so fucking clunky and shitty to play that I'm seriously about to drop it 40 hours in.
I'm a culture warrior so I can't answer the question. I will not be buying it though, maybe I will give it a try one day for free.
>>730579262>have spearsboughting it>look it up on YouTube>spears break and are just time wrapped dildos on a stickDropped.
Most people didn't care. A certain amount of culture warriors claimed that having the brown bitchy tomboy in the narrative capeshit game was some sort of evil white erasure campaign by pick_a_tourist_complaint_group, but most didn't give a shit about it and chose not to fuck the brown girl when they can fuck the big tidded blonde instead (who was also a good choice). None of this really was an issue. There was more legitimate complaint about KCD2 with certain narrative bits or lack of choice than anything else. The problem is that a lot of tourist fags basically thought that Vavra was /theirguy/ who would limit the game's story and player choices to their comfort. That was never really the case but much like the goobergate tards they interpreted >No, I don't feel the need to make each city look like modern LA, its medieval bohemia as >I hate niggers and fags and everything else you do, and will let you rape women for realism take that modern culture that turned my players into incels , please let me tell you of the 14 words and our white savior adolph hitler and people whine at him pathetically that he didn't live up to that ideal when it comes to stupid shit like an optional gay romance
>>730601079>straight sex pops up zero times.You failed to sleep with Yennifer in Witcher 3 didn't you? Did you have to reload a save? Look up a guide?
>>730601319>ultimately feels so fucking clunky and shitty to play that I'm seriously about to drop it 40 hours in.Should've played the first one first
>>730601561I do feel like Musa really is such a cringe retarded character, and that making Henry gay was certainly a choice, I didn't get the vibe that hans and henry had any gay vibes in the first game except for being really good bros, and I'm tired of people making it like every time two guys like each other as friends they're instantly fags, it makes guys insecure and intentionally have to act cold to each other to put up some macho non-gay facade. It's fucking cringe. But even with all that I just think Vavra dealt with the fallout of 4chan leaks very poorly and he shouldn't have lashed out the way he did if he was trying to slightly court the whole audience of>Im making a game for normal dudebros and it won't have any woke stuff!then start calling everyone a cringe online incel internet troll as if you're a woman, cmon dawg. But even with all that I still would've liked the game if it had a proper Theresa romance, or at least with Katherine or Rosa, but they just fucked it up completely. It was so disappointing compared to what I expected personally.
>>730602029> But even with all that I just think Vavra dealt with the fallout of 4chan leaks very poorly and he shouldn't have lashed out the way he did if he was trying to slightly court the whole audience He had the same tone he had with the journalists first time around,Also one of the dev on discord was talking about how he's a character in real life as well, so I am not that surprised about him lashing out.
>>730602029The Musa thing I think is a legitimate story gripe in the way its handled (as opposed to his presence at all. One fucking north african muslim in the court of a noble at this time was understandable, just the same way that Marco Polo hanging out in Khublai Khan's entourage was understandable - having visiting scholars and people of note was a point of pride and entertainment); I think there should have been additional patches that added ways to handle him differently based on what you did and change the way he acted etc. As far as Hans and Henry, Hans is a flamboyant character but as far as I'm aware in the sequel you can remain a bro with him with no ill will. Its not like you HAVE to get him to reveal feeling for Henry and then things are eternally awkward if they dont bang or whatever. Didn't you have to choose the flirty responses like several times before it even appears "seriously possible"? So there's no downside to just keeping him as a bro and nothing else, right? For Vavra's handling of the online drama, I don't know I get that, maybe he was tired of all the shit but I grant he could have done it better, but I can't put it all on him when as noted above so many of them basically yelling at him about "going woke" was stuff that was basically either completely optional, or Musa existing at all or whatever the fuck, so I can get him being tired of that demographic thinking he was 'based' in the shitty way described above which was never the case, yet then losing their shit over something he never promised in the first place. There are things to criticize about the game overall and its story, but that doesn't seem to be what's being discussed in this context.
>>730579485Because gays are disgusting.
Never buying KCD2, and it's not because of faggotry, but Musa. If Warhorse wanted to add a traveling Muslim scholar into their game, then it should have been an Arab, Andalusian or a Berber. All famous Arab travelers, like Battuta, Khaldun, Fadlan and so on, were racially Caucasoid and not Negroid. I have zero interest in supporting people who are propping these 'we wuz kangz n shiet' lies.
>>730579262Is that why this goyslop is on track to make less than the first game despite a much larger budget and riding on the back of the good name of the first game?
>>730583425>>730583557>>730583631Reminder Gundam was saved by women who liked twinks
>>730596862But there's no gay option in Dispatch?
>>730579262He is right, the amount of twitter trannies that forced him to include DEI shit in his game is directly inversed from the amount of twitter trannies that actually bought or cared about said game in the first place, and we know from steam charts that very few of them did buy a copy in the end.
>>730596896Blame the people who turned games political.Or you could just keep pretending there's not a problem and getting mad at the people who acknowledge it.
>>730579485>kids are dumb and suggestible
>>730597262>No one actually cares enough to discuss the game. They'll say 'I just want to discuss it!' but they never even try, just complain that they want to.If the people who want to discuss the game refuse to discuss the game, why is that the fault of "culture warriors"?
>>730583304I'm not so sure. KCD1 already had some normie appeal, and the press is becoming more and more irrelevant. And there's no shortage of gay shit out there. It's oversaturated if anything. >>730583395The risk is that they blew their reputation and brand name. Like rainbow 6 now being developed by people who hate cops and guns puting in bald black women We'll see if the core audience is in for KCD3, or Daniel's next game.>>730583557Are straight women buying and playing this game?
>>730602661I think I just really dislike Henry as a protag that seems like such a retard most of the time. I'd like him to have more of a backbone and self respect and be able to tell Musa to shut the fuck up and instead you just nod away to his retarded takes and have to tolerate them. I still like Hans as a character if you don't romance him, it's just annoying that you can't spend 3 min on KCD twitter or anywhere without seeing a billion gay fanarts and obvious fags trying to ragebait by calling it the only canon or shit like that. And Vavra as a person just seems like a complete sleazy rat to me, I don't know how you still think he didn't try courting the chud base or that he was not anti-woke, especially if you read his facebook posts that are in czech and translate them. He's 100% acted like that before, his whole shtick was that he was the type of person to respond on the offensive when probed instead of giving PR answers, he'd intentionally attack critics or post on twitter that tweet like with the black guy eating KFC in a movie and saying should he put a black guy like that in KCD to please leftists etc. It's really cringe ngl. There are devs that are literal fags like Tim Cain and they're less gay than Vavra at this point, with the way he overnight went from larping as a chud to larping as hello fellow kids to leftist/progressive fanbase he's trying to make peace with now and they're falling for it too when bro has zero integrity. Just gives me a ick
>>730603064>But there's no gay option in Dispatch?"Dispatch is a superhero workplace comedy where choices matter"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwgbJUm9dYk
>>730590220>/v/ is a dead shithole, nobody cares, most people had to crawl into /vrpg/ or /vg/ to talk about the game itselfEvery game gets faggots who attempt to shitpost discussion to death, but games with actual fanbases still get discussion. Look at pathologic. It has a lot of strikes against it when it comes to being spammed>russian>studio founder turned his wife's face into mincemeat and was fired>requires reading>praised as artisticYet even in 2026, when most of the board feels like it's botposting, the threads are still decent. Because /v/ has been talking about the series for decades and are actually playing the game. There's shitposting but it's largely ignored.
>>730603508a lot of tricking the goyim is explained from his jewish ancestry.
>>730603508I think there's a legitimate concern with Henry as a protag and the lack of choices for interacting with Musa , or others for that matter including female love interests. I have to wonder if this isn't the kind of thing that could be improved by some sort of mod that adds new comprehensive choices and dialog trees based on skills etc, but I don't know if the engine has that sort of capability available. For what its worth, I also hated the limitations of Cyberpunk2077 and some decisions made over there too (especially anything having to do with Phantom Liberty, but others as well). As far as social media faggotry fujos are gonna fujo and social media is going to be shit; don't let it get to you too much. I'd be more pissed if Hans became some sort of whiny bitch the entire game if you didn't romance him, but since it seems someone watching a bro route could never think there's an option for anything else, its okay, especially as it takes a lot to actually unlock the gay shit - its not like the BG3 pre-patch thing where the minute you say you like magic and want to see a magic trick you've committed to going gay with the character, which thankfully they patched out.For Vavra, I think some anon before said that he's basically tried to troll people in the past and act with hostility to those who are critiquing them and while it may not be smart or is questionable, I never got the impression he was specifically trying to be on one 'side' or another in a "Hello my people, I made the game for you not those you hate, buy it!" sort of way, but rather he just reacts with hostility to all the culture war shit and he's been equally hostile to SJWs who screamed about lacking diversity and rightoids who claimed he didn't deliver their promised bohemian hitler fantasy for whatever reason.
>>730603446>Are straight women buying and playing this game?I would say soThey making fanarts of characters i talked with for 7 minutes
>>730579262I genuinely stopped caring because of the gay romance. Saying I suddenly cared more isn't really fair. I went "oh in the bin it goes" then never once cared again until right this moment so that I can inform you that the article in question is delusional and gravely mistaken.You're more than welcome to attribute other retards' opinions to mine though. You're going to do that anyway so I'll politely permit you to do it because I'm nice like that.
>kcd2 is performing very well>Every other day there's a thread specially made for seething about kcd2 (long before this article was published)Yeah seems about right
>>730585024Deliberately missing the point is not a viable strategy and I implore you reconsider your mindset so we can all get better games.
>>730604225>rightoids who claimed he didn't deliver their promised bohemian hitler fantasy for whatever reason.Strawman. People didn't ask for that they just wanted him to not put fake black people in the game, which is something he explicitly said he wasn't going to do. Musa existing is a testament to thw fact that they're not taking the authenticity of the setting as seriously as they did.
>>730604845>Musa existing is a testament to thw fact that they're not taking the authenticity of the setting as seriously as they did.And thousands of man hours spent on research and development don't mean anything either? Because they don't care for historical accuracy.
>fields near abandoned and burned village are full of graindoes this even make sense?
>>730579262lmao, why is he pretending he wasn't balls deep in the culture war bullshit? I still remember him lying his ass of and getting into fights on twitter labelling everyone grifters like a true redditor, that shit alone was enough to turn me off anything he's involved in, man-child behaviour, fuck embarrassing.
>>730579262Based. I don't know why anyone would care about the opinion of /v/ermin.
>>730604989They did that for the first game and somehow managed to avoid putting in fictional foreigners for culture war reasons.
>>730605568>lmao, why is he pretending wasn't balls deep in the culture war bullshit?It's quite funny when you think about it. It won't work a next time.
>>730579262Every single one of these fucks say this the first time they go full retard and the normie population, who is never informed of anything, pickup their games / show / movie, get burned by it, then rarely return to the series or gets it at a discount.See BF and CoD for Free Spaces in this phenomenon, they got away with it for a while because of their size but they're an absolute shadow of what they were, look how they outright cancelled the BF tournament because people aren't playing 6 or how everyone lambasts 2042.Reputation matters, if KCD3 released 1 month from now would it show the same sales pattern as 1 or 2? No, because the normies got burnt and now they don't give a rats ass.Those that went out of their way to be informed didn't buy shit like KCD2 and tlou2, those that did not did. I don't even disrespect them for it, avoiding spoilers or ruining a fresh experience is understandable.Another great example is FF7 Remake to FF7 "Remake" part 2, it's looking at about a 2/3rds less overall sales compared to the former because enough people got burned by them Ghostbusters 3ing FF7 that they didn't return for a second helping, because why the fuck would they want more?
>>730605680I just think it's stupid to paint in such broad strokes No game dev thinks "ooh i am gonna make based game or woke game"There are a lot of different elements that fall into different categories for different reasons.Musa is specially in the game because of Vavra's comments (new ceo pressuring them to avoid controversy)But kcd also only exists because of Vavra's and I am glad it does.
>>730604989Find me any notable Bantu/Negroid Muslim travelers and scholars, I'll wait.
How did they go from getting shit for not being diverse to this? Also, why are the people shitting on anti wokesters pretending like that didn't happen?
>>730606069You guys act like it's dragon age fail guard or dustbornWhen to anyone not entranched in outside drama KCD 1 and 2 are very very similar games.Also their next games won't KCD and it'll probably sell a lot more than kcd because it might be a fantasy game
>>730606183If they wanted to avoid controversies, whilst remaining faithful to history, they could have added an Arab or a Berber Scholar and explorer to their game. But instead, they decided to go with the 'we wuz kangz n shiet' rubbish, which Vavra correctly dismissed when the first game came out.
>>730606225Not gonna sit here and defend that >>730606183
>>730606338Because the dev is an actual centrist that doesn't follow politics closely. In an interview he talked about how there was the first group that refused to buy and considered him evil for not having any blacks so he, in his words, extended an olive branch and in doing so he enraged another group. So now he says he hates both groups and wants nothing to do with either of the crazies.
>>730606451Vavra specially made comments about no blacks not about arabs or brown people in general.
>>730579485Pander to me completely or lose everything.
>>730606584pretty based. i also don't care about the devs. i more find it funny how the non outraged people would have been the outraged people when the first one came out.
>>730579262>Is he right?yes. next
>>730606584But one position is historically accurate, and the other is not. Vavra is just coping with the fact that he sold his ass for investor bucks.
>>730599007i remember some cuck journo whining "all it would take is for one african mercenary or something to come through and impregnate a woman haha"
>>730594867No clue what that is.
>>730606451Yeah it's not very exciting but that's the most realistic and rational explanation Not some changes of heart of 7D chess because he had Jewish ancestry.And i think more than money it's about creating things, many creatives have 2 options either make their things with sacrifices or sit at home and watch tv
>>730597341>where you align with the rebels of the king of HRE since the very start?You do no such thing in the first game, you're just a normal Catholic.
>>730606773>supposedly got investor bucks>sold way more copies than the original and all it cost was people whose only hobby is engaging in right wing outrage cyclessounds like the smart move to me
>>730606183>"ooh i am gonna make based game or woke game"I never claimed that they did. I said that they put Musa in for representation reasons with a piss poor justification. People call it woke for that reason, not because they think Varva was rubbing his hands and exclaiming 'I'm going to make this woke to btfo the chuds!" Saying that kind of shit just makes me thing that you're arguing in bad faith and that you'll make shit up if it furthers your argument. The controversy complaining about the lack of Sub-Saharan Africans in Bohemia was ridiculous and he openly ridiculed it. The justification listed in the game was that one of the Muslim explorers who traveled around the Muslim world and made it to Europe (Muslim Spain, not Bohemia.)