I've just realised I've been emulating games incorrectly for years. I think we should start a movement so others don't make the same mistake.
>>730585195>scan a piece of official art for a menu icons>retards "wow, it's pixel art designed for crts!!!"Nigger what the fuck?
>minecraft blocks vs shader
>>730585195Meme for starters Is it a dot, slot mask or aperture grill tube?The amount of tv lines the tube uses is it a low, mid or high range tube?Connection method. Is it hooked up with rf, composite, s-video or rgb?
crt = unc
>>730585346It's not a scan, stupid.
>>730585195Raw pixels look bettercrt filters are shit
I'm using crt-easymode filter on retroarch for all my retro games. 99% of crt filters look like absolute shit and overdo it extremely with the scanlines and really darken the picture which makes it look so much worse.
>>730585743I agree, plus I would like to appreciate the actual pixel work that went into the games rather than trying to figure it out through the blurry CRT bullshit.
>>730585195The colors with CRT filter are so bad it's unreal. Otherwise from the thumbnail it look smoother but also blurred with less detail.
>>730585743Crt for nostalgia
dont need any filters
Philips tube RGB
>>730586232>nostalgiaThe GANE is for nostalgia and raw pixels for improved clarity. Almost like a free upgrade remaster.
When will we get a screen that can emulate CRT well enough?
>>730585195>ruining perfectly soulful pixel artYeah. No.
>>730585195you might want to post an image that's less zoomed in so we can actually see the art and not just the fucking grille
>>730586604High end Philips Matchline produced circa 1993-1997
please for the love of god, show me a crt filter thats not royale
>>730586276>"scanline" is half a pixel (even less for brighter areas) 10%darkness bit> >>730585853 doesn't even have scanlines>filterniggers think scanlines are fucking black bars under raw bmp pixels.
Low end 90s daewoo toshiba tube rgb
>>730585853Generic turd monster vs mighty feared Gold boss
>>730587387Nvm that's the Philips this is the Daewoo
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>>730585195Left looks better
>>730585195CRT filters get clowned on, but they're not all bad. I've had a lot of success with them in combination with more accurate emulators for N64 games. If using upsampling and downsampling, a lot of these games look better than they ever did on my original hardware (without resorting to the weird smoothed visuals you see a lot of people use).
>>730585195People who have never played old games on a CRT remind of how in Sci-fi stories that take place in deep space away far from our solar system, there's a generation of people born after humanity leaves Earth and they don't have any memory of Earth. All of their knowledge of Earth is from legends and old pictures which is what they us to base their idea of what it would be like to set foot on Earth.That's how I see kids who talk about CRT when they were born after CRTs stopped being made
>>730586604Perhaps 67
crt-guest-advanced-ntsc
>>730590407looks like anus
>>730590407try the koko-aio ones
Just like trannies will never be real women, crt filters will never be like playing on a real crt
>>730585482not gonna convince me to go back to CRT
what's a good crr filter that's preloaded in RetroArch?
>>730591792Guest Advanced is the go 2 nowadays
>>730591792megabezel and koko-aio
>>730591532Just like CRTs are outdated technology 99.99% of the waking world has moved away from, so are your viewsNobody wants to play on a CRT anymore except for chuds. Graphical remakes are the definitive versions
>>730585195Both look good to me, but I like the look of actual crt scanlines, and the gradients.
>>730585195This thread and its replies boil down to this
>>730593373How schizos handle new captcha?
>>730585195Noodles had a solid video about that particular topic.
>>730585346Don't think it was a scanIt was most likely redrawn from scratch
>>730593373if only, in actuality it's just psychos and schizos both pretending to be normies and failing at it.
>>730585482>unc>redditzoomerspeakgo back
>>730585195That's great.Now try actually beating some of those games instead of spending hours tinkering with shaders on an emulator, playing the game for a measly hour, then getting bored and going back to your favorite multiplayer and/or gacha game of choice.
>>730593584I love it
>>730586842It wasn't called pixel art back then zoomerThe games were meant to look like on the right
>>730593584I think I'm a normie because I don't care
>>730589092Still doesn't look betterYou need 10000ppi screen if you wanna upscale without shaders and have it look reasonably blended
>>730589179>CRT filters get clowned onOnly by CRT salesmen and poorfags who can't afford good displays to do them justiceThe Sony Megatron Cyberlab presets and the RetroCrisis presets are crazy good
>>730585195The left is the correct way for actual video games. Filters just make it harder to see.
>>730586902every "crt" thread si just zoomed in shit or dogshit camera pictures of crt screens that prove absolutely nothing
>>730585743Op didnt say anything about filters.
>>730585195old goodnew badunironically
>>730589092hrt vs crt
>>730585195I don't give a flying Yankee Doodle fuck about any filters or CRT
>>730591887nice thanks. just the normal one? theres multiple>>730592509I dont have those in my shaders settings also, is there a way to set shader to auto load? I can't find a setting
>>730594670The right isn't a filter you schizo, it's an actual CRTNot that you would know the difference
>>730585346lol
>>730595618If the output is anything less than 100% accurate to the original input it's a filter. There is nothing to be gained from making the screen blurry and I suggest you play an actual video game for once instead of masturbating over dithering.
>>730591792Cyberlab presetsSome of them are HDR some SDRYou need a good display to make them justice and you need to edit paper white brightness to higher nits for HDRPic related an exampleRetroCrisis presets are also goodIf they aren't pre-loaded you can get them from libretro forums
>>730596036Post your gng 1cc
>>730595863Stop shitpostingOriginal input is just an abstractSNES didn't even output 1:1 PARYou are of your depth
>>730596187>You are of your depthPost clears. Readability has always been king and CRTs are objectively less readable. Hardware and filter wank is not video games. You've already ruined all of /vr/, go sit in that shithole and talk to yourself. Retro fags do NOT play.
>>730585195right is how it looks like but left is like how you actually perceive it. I still own and play on a sony trinitron crt so I know what I am talking about. dont@me tranny
>>730595595You're not using vulkan? They're in the bezel folder if you're
>>730596351I have no idea... I just started using RetroArch cause lemuroid didn't have any overclocking settingsits very confusing
>>730596306strong contender for most retarded take of 2026
>>730585195From the catalog thumbnail, left read like Ron Paul.
>>730596351I found it in bezel but it doesn't do anything when I load it
>>730592652Aesthetic so bad it's somehow worse than a fucking calculator display
>>730596431Still not seeing clears.
>>730585743>>730586232retards
>>730596036any clue which folder they might be in? search function is broken>>730596537figured it out. had to load one from the subfolders.man why has RetroArch not improved its ui at all in the last decade
>>730586317all you pixel shit sucking zoomers need to be culled from the population
>>730596857You have never beaten a video game without save states.
>>730596908stop projecting zoomie
>>730585853Why the fuck are faggot CRT filters giving such a dull, dark and liveless picture? That fucking shader is peak soulless arm chair intellectual.
>>730596990it's not a shader
>>730594670who watches the left anime wtf
>>730597614I think they're called patricians whatever that means
Left is 2000 Panasonic CRT and right is 2010 Sony LCD. Ran from Wii via composite
>>730585195Ah shit, I started up chrono trigger and played through it with a magnifying glass right up to the glass and I gotta admit that was more enjoyable on a CRT. My eyes hurt now.
>>730585195Guess what they used to create the pixel art in the first place? That's right, they designed the art on a CRT, so it looks best on a CRT. They had literally no idea how the art would look on modern digital flat panels.This isn't always true for pixel art in general (new pixel art is created on flat panels), but old school pixel art was definitely designed with the screen it was going to be viewed on in mind.
>>730585346>>scanGigatard incoming
>falling for the CRT meme
>>730598838>t. uncultured zoomer
what crt filter should i use in general if i don't want to neurotically obsess over what is 'the best'
>>730598412>Guess what they used to create the pixel art in the first place? That's right, they designed the art on a CRTIncorrect. Sprites were commonly made on grid paper. I'm fairly certain this was done for every single game made by Squaresoft. Character portraits were drawn by the artist and then scanned in.Adjustments were made on a CRT, yes, but digital art didn't become the norm until around the PSX/N64 era because the technology was becoming cheaper.
>>730598897Whichever looks best to you in general. Fucking idiotic question.
>>730597980People think it's the CRT doing the blending when it's in fact the composite signal that does 90% of it. Any CRT with RGB/Component won't blend shit either.
>>730599052calm down unc might give yourself a stroke
>>730599041That's true, of course, but the final product was always vetted through a CRT screen (no other type of screen even existed at the time). Knowing the analog CRT output would blend pixels/colors/etc. informed the input to some extent, even if it was initially plotted out on grid paper. Modern pixel art is created without such considerations, because modern screens are pixel-perfect.
>>730597980how about via component
>>730599417My CRT just has composite and SCART
>>730599168incorrect
>>730589092Why do you keep doing this? What is it supposed to prove? An integer scale to 240p fit a 4k LCD is visually equivalent to if the screen were native 240p at the same physical size. Scaling the filtered image down to 240p is exactly the same as both images being integer scaled to 4k, except 240p is obviously too low for the CRT shader's phosphor mask and scanline effects to work, so your comparison is both pointless and disingeneous.
>>730600492It's in fact correct. Plug a megadrive on any HDTV over composite and you'll see the sonic waterfall fully transparent.
people learning what "filling the gaps in your mind" is years later was extremely cute a decade ago but it's just exhausting now. at best you get better results with dithering like water fall effects, but all of this is just making everything blurry to hide the fact that your games didn't have a lot of pixels to work with. if you know how crts work, you're essentially tripling it by sacrificing clarity. just squint your eyes nigga
Trannymai poster is more of an HRT kinda guy
>>730601185The comparison image you responded to did not use dithering
>>730585853Left>HUE HUE HUERight>Grrrr
