This is one of the most overated games ever
>>730585226The first game was better
>>730585226Are there any omorashi scenes in the game?
>>730585226Really? It's not rated that highly.
>>730585226We spent 99% of dev time making the combat as pretentious as possible ignoring proper balancing or enemy design and since we out of time and money after it we are gonna reuse assets everywhere and make a repetitivr as fuck game with an annoying retarded grind to boot: the seriesI legit couldn't even give a fuck to the excuse of story with how bad it was played out too
git gud bish
>>730585226why does every nioh thread have to start out as a bait thread?anyway, post hiddys
Nioh 3 dropping the garbage instanced recycled mission design for open world is good
>>730585226You misspelled underrated.Faggots complain about muh loot autism, meanwhile games have continued stagnating into into godawful unplayable bullshit barely clapped together on shoe-string budgets. Even TN's other games. If you don't like Nioh, try playing fucking Rise of the Ronin. The drop in quality is fucking ridiculous.
>>730585226best game of all time if you have the dlc and get to the depths. pure autist kino.
>>730586073The open world looks like utter shit lol
>>730585226Most underrated.
>>730586154See the loot autism shit doesn't even make sense anyway since Nioh 1 and 2 have probably some of the best itemization in the entire ARPG genre.The first playthrough that will be the only one for most people is dead simple, just pick the bigger number and you're good to go.You don't even need to really worry about synergies or build defining affinities until halfway through Dream/Way of the demon.The complexity is only there for people who actually like that kind of thing and people who get turned off by the toddler level stuff needed for Dream/Way of the Samurai are either retarded or are overly fixated on something that doesn't matter yet.
>>730586073Story missions are always kino in Nioh, it's the side missions that are usually boring (here's the same map again, but you go backwards this time lmao). I'm not sure I'd want to trade it all for open world slop. I'll miss the story missions.
>>730585226It's not overrated; people simply pretends to like it because they hate From Software and Dark Souls and Nioh 2 is the biggest competitor so they use it as a weapon.Basically the Expedition 33 of Soulslikes.
>>730586373Is it open world or Open World design?
>>730586154It's because the random loot makes it so faggots can't run and make their preferred build at the start of the game to carry their bitch ass and you can't get rewarded for being proactive instead of waiting for your turn like a soils game
>>730585226Based. Nioh 2 is inferior so SoulsI'm playing it again with kusa and rotating betwene axe/odachi/spear/switchglaive sso I have at least one samurai weapon for 3how in the fuck do spears deal with yokai, like the bigger ones
>>730586880>and Nioh 2 is the biggest competitorBut it isn't.If we're talking sales then the Star Wars Jedi series sold much more than the Nioh series did and if we're talking acclaim many more people seem convinced that Lies of P is the best non-Fromsoft soulslike there is.
>>730585226I love Youkai and love loot but I'm too much of a shitter, I got filtered with the first one, should I give the sequel a try?
>>730585226It's not rated highly enough.
>>730587197No. Contrary to what people claim (in a misguided attempt to make people play the second game) Nioh 2 is pretty much the same thing as the first but bigger. If the first walled you don't waste your time with the second.
>>730586880But I love all the Souls games (excluding DaS2, Sekiro, and Elden Ring), and Nioh and Nioh 2 are two of my favorite games of all time.
>>730585989I have a jack hiddy. Game of the decade easily.
>>730587273>I love all the Souls games (excluding DaS2, Sekiro, and Elden Ring), and Nioh and Nioh 2 are two of my favorite games of all time.Said by no one ever. Souls and Nioh are mutually exclusive and you can't like one without hating the other.
>>730587197If you got filtered by the difficulty and dying too much then 2 is better in that regard - it gives you more tools you can use to style on your enemies and the damage they do to you is not that overtuned (you will rarely get 2-shot by normal mobs in Nioh 2).If you got filtered by the complexity of combat then I'm sorry to say 2 is even more complex and would filter you even harder.
>>730585226>Dark souls if it was made by a gacha developer
>>730587197IMO 2 is a little easier than the first one. Even if 1 filtered you, I would still say pick 2 up on a sale and try it out.>>730587324Said by me on multiple occasions.
>>730587197Nioh 1 was way harder, imoEven going back to it after beating Nioh 2 multiple times, it's definitely jankier in terms of what it doesn't haveAlso in 2 you can summon npc helpers for most every mission, practically non stop if you have online enabled2 gives you way, way more options to fuck around with even early on - but you will get your shit pushed in on the second and third bosses imo but they're easy if you understand them>>730587257Two has way more broken shit from the startYokai abilities, the fucking scampuss, the fucking NPC summons, the fucking utter BULLSHIT that is yokai form (mode?) carries you early on,m not to mention since the DLC, the fucking fists (or tonfa) plus yokai abilities , or even the brute burst counter for ojnly one anima, let's you chainsmack the shit out of most human bosses. Yokai bosses are abit harder but still can be done easily from mission 2 onwards if someone grinds a bit to get 4-5 onmyo points to spam barrier talisman and uses a corruption weapon (no, purity sucks)
>>730587324Oh, it's this baiting retard again
>>730587273>excluding sekiro and ERI shouldn't ask but I will.Why?
I got filtered hard by the first boss of the DLC on Nioh 1. What am I supposed to do against centipede guy? Felt like he could one or 2 shot me, and he's fast as fuck to boot.
>>7305871972 is easier but makes 1 seem primitive by comparison, if you can avoid getting filtered by the first chapter it should be smooth sailingIt also has way more enemy variety and lets you use enemy attacks for yourself
>>730585226Team ninja never made a single good game everDoa got mogged by tekkenNinja gaiden get raped by dmcNioh is remembered as a cheap fromsoft clone aka alibaba darksouls
>>730587430Sekiro just wasn't my jam. No character customization or multiplayer. I also don't like the combat structure as a whole. Just not for me.ER is just too fucking hard. Great bones but every single boss is just a fucking dumpster fire. SotE was even worse since it made a bunch of enemies on the same 'flail around for 30 seconds as a hitbox and wait to take your one jump-R2 turn' tier as all the bosses. Anti-fun bullshit and the opposite of my favorite two games in the series (Demon's and Bloodborne)Feels fucking bad.
>>730587578Lmao dumb nigger
>>730587505you were supposed to have already made a complete way of the strong build, the expectation was people had already been playing endgame when approaching this content.
>>730587672I feared I would have to call you a dumb retard faggot but it turns out my fears were for nothing and you were fairly resonable if wrong lmao faggot
>>730587672ER in general is just a mediocre bloated game
>>730587505This is one of the few bosses I never figured out how to fight properly so I fight him like a dark souls boss - hit a few times, then dodge/run away, wait for him to stop spazzing out, hit a few times, repeat.He takes a lot more damage if you hit him in the centipede, so try to aim your attacks there if possible.
>>730587505Centipedew Guy is just unironically complete and total bullshit.
Hideyoshi is literally me
>>730587672some of the dlc bosses were pretty silly, ER did sort of become about cheesing the bosses more than anything (thanks mimic tear).
>>730585226Filtered by Yatsu-No-Kami?
>>730588046Yatsu no cummies
>>730588067The boss is male,. faggot
>>730587842Forgot webm
>>730588285I don't see the problemYou get like 5 seconds between each attack
>>730588418I'm spamming the spell that quartsers his movement speed.It's actually not the webm I meant to post but that one seems to have aged out of arch.b4k
>>730588502>sloth user
>>730588542Special case for Shigezane.FUCK Sjhigezane.
Souls if it actually had good combat that required thinking and actual skill.
>>730588589>Special case for Shigezane.>it's not gay if I suck only one cockOk, faggot. lol.
Found it Jesus I hated this boss
I'm playing rise of the ronin right now since I can finally run it at a stable 120 fpsI'm nioh's #1 fan, but combat here has yet to click after 20 hours. thankfully, I have infinite patience
>>730589045As someone who put hundreds of hours into Nioh and Nioh 2 I can tell you that RotR's combat is nothing like Nioh's and is actually rancid dogshit.
>>730589023Oh that dude, yeah he's a definite difficulty spike. You've really gotta burst and go totally mental right away to beat him.
>>730589128that's what I'm afraid of, yeah
>>730589128wow deep take but why
>>730589230You have no agency in combat: enemies, but especially bosses, have essentially permanent hyper armor, meaning there is absolutely no benefit to ever attacking first or "out of turn". Combat in the game boils down to waiting for enemies to attack into you so you can parry them, as that's the on;y way to drain their ki(stamina) and open them up for a critical hit, which is the only way to do appreciable damage to them. It's basically the absolute worst imaginable combination of Elden Ring's faux turn-based combat and Sekiro's 'let the boss kill itself by attacking into your parries' combat.
>>730585226It's only glazed here by contrarians. It's not a bad game, but it isn't amazing either. It would help if even a single boss was memorable other than cat tits. Very uninspired bosses.
>>730587505>>730587837>>730587842>>730588285you don't need to "fight him"just pop the spirit mode and rush him down
>>730585226>This is one of the most overated games everIt isn't, it's just a handful of autists that have spammed the same thread for years. They're only obsessed with it because they're addicted to the grind.
>>730589489I'm trying to experiment with all the mechanics to see if there's a way to buy yourself time to do sick combos but everything seems to get punished so far. I'm still willing to call it a skill issue on my part for nowTo give you an idea of what I'm talking about, Nioh 2 had among other things Feral burst counter that let you dodge out of the way at the last second even if you were overcommitting, so having something similar would be nice. You can do so much in RotR combat but everything seems undercooked
>>730585226Its genuinely the most fun arpg in 10+ years
>>730587363>you will rarely get 2-shot by normal mobs in Nioh 2AHAHAHAHAHAHA everything in Nioh 2 can do this
>>730585989Because a lot of people here and probably on the internet in general have a strong negativity bias and are more likely to engage with negative posts than positive ones.
>>730589978Good luck anon
>>730589489Well it's parry based, but if that's a good or bad thing depends on a person. Bosses are over-tuned and you do need to stay on the defense but that's hardy what would make it a rancid dogshit.I don't understand how it's anything like ER.
>>730585989>post hiddysYou too
>>730590368Soon as you figure out animation cancelling and know your style movesets well enough to engage with movement options you can really pressure enemies outside of their panic stance even with hyper armour
>>730586073Most dogshit normie opinion that exists in modern gaming. The vast majority of open world games are either good in spite of being open world or garbage because of their open world. Open world games only work for a very specific type of game and Nioh isn't that.
I'm so hyped for 3 bruhs
>>730586073The 'open world' is just normal nioh levels but bigger, not normal ubislop elden shit open world
>>730590785Demo will decide if I pre order but overall looks great
>>730590368>I don't understand how it's anything like ER.Enemies go on cyclical seconds-long flailing fits as basic combat loops.I guess it's really more like Sekiro in that they do that and your only meaningful way to interact with it is to parry them all or run away, as opposed to ER's block or run away.
>>730590709Nah nta but he's absolutely right. In a game like ER the open world is arbitrary because in Souls games you inherently have all the tools necessary to take down any challenge right from the beginning, so you can feasibly just follow the main path and be prepared for anything you encounter. In Nioh 2 you start off so pathetically weak and there are so many bloat mechanics that trying to brute force your way forward is a chore and pure masochism. If any ARPG needs to let you run around freely and gather the tools to succeed it's Nioh
>>730586073Idk it worked well in the alpha.
>>730590807So like Ground Zeroes level size? That might be cool.
>>730591034>In Nioh 2 you start off so pathetically weak and there are so many bloat mechanics that trying to brute force your way forward is a chore and pure masochismOutside of flux 2 and a few weapons skills everything is optional
>>730591034>he's worse than mid-stance phil
>>730587197Nioh 1 is fucked up hard at the beginning, designers completely dropped the ball when it comes to game balance. Back when it released I didn't have a single clue what stance you should be using for what, and didn't even look at ninpo/onmyo or any items. Brute-forcing Hino-enma or Nue was like hitting a brick wall, those fights burned me out and I dropped the game. You can trivialize those fights when you know what you're doing.
>>730590236I'm playing with a light armor build ATM and can survive 4-5 from most normal enemies
>>730591194Optional in the sense that the most degenerate 2000 hour autist could ignore all the mechanics and force their way through but the average player will absolutely have to use everything at their disposal to succeed. You're simply being disingenious
>>730590807That doesn't sound good. I don't want to spend 10-15 hours inside one Nioh level. Part of the appeal of Nioh for me is that levels change frequently and each comes with its own environment, gimmicks, layout, etc.
>>730591298I literally started a new file yesterday and the basic humans with swords and such can easily kill you in 2 hits straight from the beginning of the game, in the first level. You are outright lying or farmed gear off revenants
>>730591339Even on my first playthrough this wasn't the case. Maybe if you're bad at games like Phil >>730591209
>>730591245I replayed 1 recently with ridiculous amounts of muscle memory from 2 that spared me a lot of frustration and still thought "I bet 30% of players who reach Nue drop the game there", so you're probably right
>>730591461>no argumentConcession accepted
>1660 SuperGive it to me straight bros what are my chances?
>>730591681I would guesstimate 1080p 40 fps, but maybe lowering graphics settings will actually do something this time around
>>730585989
>>730591461You can get far with something like Axe high-stance strong-attack spam if you're patient and can dodge well, but I imagine it would be very tedious.
>>730591581>I'm bad at the game>okay, I doubt many others are>haha concession accepted Retarded nigger
>>730592020If you can use low stance dodge well and weave through stances with flux then you're already doing well enough to get through the game without much friction.
I like dying because it means the boss is back at full health and we can play more
>>730585989Shcum.
>>730592153the average player can do 1-2 combos and will dodge only heavily telegraphed attacks, that's the whole point
>>730592316Absolute state
>>730587672Git gud
>>730585226what do you mean? I think its rated as it deserves. Team Ninja has never made a bad game after all.
>>730587273>>730587672It's hilarious how Niohfags get consistently forever filtered by Elden RingEver single time
>>730591681Nioh 3? 720p@20fps
>>730591681Demo is on steam on the 29th I think lil nigga
>>730592728good thing it was the shittiest From game in a while
Steam page says I need Win 11 is that true or will 10 work?
>>730592728I love Nioh and Elden Ring though
>>730592838Are you a retard anon, NO ONE tests on Win 10 anymore, it's EOS, so every new game will say Win 11. But the API's are all the same, so it should run.
Reminder that a way to stop OHKOs and a way to make sure you can consistently land Sloth (with landing Confusion as a bonus if you can manage it) will take you all the way to Depths 30.
>>730592728My experience of getting filtered was falling asleep during my run. What a boring bloated mess.
>>730592838
>>730586880>It's not overrated; people simply pretends to like it because they hate From Software and Dark Souls and Nioh 2 is the biggest competitor so they use it as a weapon.You are so severely retarded it's not even funny. Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne are my favorite games of all time and Nioh 2 is one of the greatest action games I've ever played, easily beats every fromsoft game out of the water in terms of combat.
>>730592895>Are you a retard anonYes, thank you for bearing with me.
>>730591453Alright, 3 hits, fair enough.Keep in mind, I am wearing light armor and haven't replaced some of my gear in several main missions.
>>730592923I dunno man.
>>730585226>"This is one of the most overated games ever"
>>730592838I played nioh 2 on Win 7 even though it said win 10 was required.
>>730593034
Just started it recently. Love the funny cat ball, hate snake bitches
>>730593034>pc fag>female character >gay nigger coomer modswhy is it every time?
>>730593104nothing in that screenshot is modded.
>>730593034Alright, I'll bite. What mods?
>>730593104>using gooner mods for female characters>gayhuh?
>>730593153He's an ESL favela monkey, what do you expect
>>730593153Please understand, the troon mind cannot be fathomed.
Being attracted to disgusting fat whores is as much a biological aberration as being attracted to men, so in effect you are essentially gay if you like women built like >>730593034.
>>730593153Now that the conservachuds are in charge their new strat to try and censor everything they don't like is to claim that having a sex drive makes you a gay/tranny because any form of 'degeneracy' is actually the same as any other.
>>730592895Windows backward compatibility wasn't always the case so it's not a dumb question
>>730593278>if you like women you're gayJust stop posting nigger
>>730593278Anon, being attracted to females is pretty much the opposite of being gay. No amount of your tranny mental gymnastics will make it gay.
>>730593104>>730593278>these two posters are trans fags who are scared of healthy sized powerful women
>>730585226Correct. Team Ninja hasn't made a good game since Ninja Gaiden 2, and all their lazy copypasted Souls clones of the past decade are dogshit.
>>730593335If true, I fucking hate these backstabbing niggers.
>>730593148https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/195https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/174https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/205mix and match of these
Someone please advise how spear works against yokai
>>730593484>ut gaiden 2>goodLmao
>>730593615why would spears not work against yokai
>>730593615It's a spear, just point it at the enemy and it wins for you
The Nioh 3 demo is at the end of the month, right?
>>730585226Every single enemy feels identical to fight. The ki system makes every yokai boss the exact same to me. That's a big part of what makes the game boring
>>730593615vertical swings to insta break hornskicks or w/e ki attacks it has to break their kiwin
It's a forgettable game. I cannot recall a single thing about the plot except orange crystal meth Amrita and you fight Nobunaga. Not a single line of dialogue. I don't remember boss movesets. I wouldn't be able to draw a map of any level, even the smallest ones either. Not a single spell except for sloth talisman.
>>730593902yes brown
>>730593940True and they copy paste the same maps over and over.It's why I'm excited for the new open world approach I'm hoping that fixes that and multiplayer is more persistent this time.
>>730593960I find it hard to trust you when your filename is a 4chan one.
>>730593960you're not wrong about Nioh 1, I felt the same about it and came to the same conclusion upon replaying itNioh goes from forgettable (1) to kamige (2)
>>730593960You should get checked for Alzheimer‘s.
>>730593960>plotDumb nigger
>>730593960>he got filtered shame
>>730593960I have the water barge level embedded into my brain and I barely played 1. I got knocked into the water a million times
For me, it's the hatchets
>>730594617same except every weapon
2kat+odachi, now and forever.
>>730594873Same. I like to use everything, they've all got their charms. I'd be saddened if all types weren't in 3 by the time it's wrapped up its DLC.
>>730590785It's the only game Im genuinely hyped for. It's been a while I had not a game to look forward too like this one.
>>730594617Same though I've got some slight worries about their ninja mode moveset in 3. I'm still using them regardless and I think they'll be good/fun but they removed Mountain Climber's input for some reason. This doesn't make sense because from what I've seen, there's too many moves fighting for the "L1+sqaure/forward+triangle" input now. Fists and Talons still have Flying Fist on "dodge+forward after attacking" so I don't know why they'd arbitrarily remove that from Hatchets. It's not a massive deal but it's a fun move and there's no reason to shaft it like that so I hope the final build of the game fixes this. I'm also concerned about Death From Above. It can be used on "L1+triangle/triangle+backwards" but it's also usable while airborne but the skill customization screen doesn't have an airborne input for it. Again, that makes no sense and I'm hoping that the final build lets me use it in the air while having a different skill for that input when on the ground.
>>730595514I'm assuming we'll get better information on the upcoming demoI think, even with the 'playtest' they did where they invited some retards to play, only one of them opnely admitted it was still an alpha version they played so regardless, anything before this month's demo, I'd assume could be mostly changed (within reason like ninja style is still there)I'm going to assume that Hatchets and probably most ninja style weapons are going to be changed for most moves that shoot you into the air then attack into seperate moves. Like there might be an attack in melee that launches you, but it's up to you to throw a hatchet like death from above or do another move if you prefer
>>730595665I'm going off info from the last footage that was a few months ago that only marketers had access to but yeah, it's likely still an alpha or beta that they played so I hope that it's not final. In the feedback survey they claimed that they were adding more martial art inputs but when I compared footage from the open alpha to that most recent footage, it didn't look like anything had changed. Since they added a jump button, it's possible that they simply hadn't finished converting all the old "dodge forward" moves over to the new dodge input yet. I've seen stuff on 2kat where Winter Wind was in the skill tree but it didn't have the input displayed in it's customization menu so I'm assuming the final build will be fixed.
Adding a deflect and open world might actually finally fix this shit series.
I'm glad I got Niohpilled before 3 came out, yeah Nioh 2 is an easy game but fucking around with all the different mechanics and build options you have makes combat so much more fun than Fromslop where all you can do is roll and press r1.
>>730596782Lmao
>>730596782classic br*tish shenanigans
>>730596852I wish from stop making souls and instead go back to king's fieldsAfter ds2 souls game lost its identity and become some "hardcore" boss rush shit
More focus on loot and numbers than action so it's just disappointed after you see all the braindead fans talk about how hardcore it is.
>they're copying Fromsoft AGAINkek, like a desperate rat begging for scraps
>>730597482Sar, From Slop is not even setting in the Japan sar
>>730597131I hope they keep making Souls games forever. I hope they never stop. I've liked all of them, even DS2 after I got pissed they nerfed magic early on.
>>730585226If anything, it's underrated, 85 on metacritic?
>>73059822385 is pretty good for a gameplay-centric game like this
>>730585226Is it though? It sold like shit for the genre it's in and it has like 12 fans worldwide. Everyone knows it's a lower end soulslike.
Anyone pre-ordered yet?
>>730598656>pre-ordering in the year of our lord 2026cattle
>>730598656>playstationFuck no after the shit optimzation on the demoI'll pirate it on PC first
>>730598726>Team Ninja game>PCHahahahahahaha. Probably will be another disaster like Wo Long or ROTR.
>>730598919it's not 2013 anymore tyrone, nobody plays games on console anymore
>>730598919Based. Suffah massah rayz.
>>730585494It's balanced around fun, fag. GTFOH.
>>730598726I give it decent odds of having Denuvo shoved into it. Though I guess KT is one of the few Jap devs who hasn't caved to Denuvo yet, so maybe not?
Hatchets are so fucking half baked in Nioh 2>dogshit base moveset because the gimmick is ranged attacks>except only 1 ranged attack is worth using>its so good that it invalidates core gameplay mechanics
>>730587505>>730587716>>730587837>>730587842>>730589695Date Shigezane's weak point is in front of him, it's the centipede head. Everyone misses this, but you can basically outrange everything he does and still do +50% damage by just focusing on that centipede head.
Still trucking along in Nioh 1. Game is way longer than i expected, holy shit. 25 hours in and i'm not even level 100 yet, and apparently some later missions are level 250? Having fun with axe/odachi
>>730599335That's not true at all.
>>730598656I'm contemplating pre ordering on steam but besides ninja gaiden 4 I haven't pre ordered a game in 10+ years and the price point for nioh 3 is ridiculous for a game
>>730599412Nioh 1's base game is like 50 hours counting the DLC if you know what you're doing
>>730591034If you think Nioh is for masochist Replay Dark Soul I and come back, fag. Nioh is only Dark Souls level of bad in the first 2 stages.
>>730593960Really don't get the complaints. Does a story constantly need to snap its fingers in your face with one-liners and snark? I just enjoy the atmosphere. The music, the enviroments, the fantastical recreations of yokai and historical figures, it's all awesome to me. The story is incoherent and jumps around but I enjoy the individual scenes, they tend to be well directed and visually interesting.
>>730599335You can unlock more moves for weapons, dude. Spend those points.
>>730599605shut the fuck up retarded nigger
>>730599412If you're liking the game go into ng+ and beyond. Many people abandon the game after beating the main campaign and the DLC, not knowing what they're missing on.
>>730593960>I don't remember boss movesets>Not a single spell except for sloth talisman.Ok retard
>>730599598>atmosphere???>music???>environments???>yokai and historical figuresMaybe for yokai but the sengoku setting has been rehashed to the ground at this point
>>730593960You need to beat ng+5 to get all the achievements. And the only way to do that is if you really like the game enough to get there. So my conclusion is that you're a lying faggot.
>>730600149Oh you're a soulsfag, ok, gtfo
>>730599523Good to know, ty anon.>>730600014I most likely will. I imagine build autism goes crazy and i wanna see it. I got Nioh 2 in the sale as well, so i'll be busy for a while
>>730600220>You have 100 hours in the game you can't not like it!
>>730600351if you're already able to enjoy Nioh this much, you'll probably fall in love with 2
>>730589978check out this guy, he seems to be doing what you're describing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb70FIoRnOY
>>730600467It's not just playing the game for 100 hours. It's about getting past the barrier of "Oh, I have to play the same missions again?"
>>730600656 Ah yeah, I've seen that guy's stuff before. He builds really smart, actually makes ranged hatchets look viable instead of meme-tier. Funny thing is, with good ki management and the right soul cores, you can just delete anything with relentless hatchet spam from range. Still jank as hell mechanically, but it works.
>>730600656thanks, will check that out later
>>730598919Both ran fine on my 5090Try not being a poor?>>730599304Denuvo won't be on it>>730599335kek
>>730599304denuvo would be an instant refund + friendship forever ended with koei-tecmo, so let's hope not
>>730589489You're supposed to counterspark them to cause panic, which then lets you combo and stagger them for a bit until they recover. It's a back-and-forth duel focused game, that's true, but you absolutely should be attacking still. You can still get attacks in even when they're not panicked, just not as many. Shooting them with a handgun right before they attack is another way to get them panicked to start a combo. You also have certain moves that only work when they're panicked like izuna drop.
>>730585226Nioh 2 is easily in the top 5 Soulslikes, not many approach it's combat and build customization
>>730586880>pretends to like itlol
honestly the more i play this the more i get sick of it, and everyone who tells you don't instantly die to everything literally all the time in this game is blatantly lyingconstantly have to mash heals/items or burst counters for the input to actually registerall the enemies have insane fucking tracking that will hit behind them like nothing, on top of being able to combo any attack into any other attack, and delay any attack in that string for as long as they need to hit you the microsecond you let off the guard buttonevery single time i try to get creative or aggressive with something like the hatchet or 1kat jump skills i just get punished for it and every single time you die you have to sit there like an idiot for 15 seconds before getting the privilege of another runback to go get 1 shot and learn literally nothing about how to play better. no wonder people just default to high stance light spam when that's the stance where your dodge actually works, and you actually get to take your turn without being interrupted and killed instantly
>>730603230Sar, your body or constitution stat? Your armor not being light? Blocking? Sar many ways. Hotsprings even remind Ramesh of pooing on floor and not in loo lol
>>730593034>>730593073wtf
>>730603526you don't deserve a serious response but i'll give you one anyway. i'm levelling stats mostly evenly, with con being a slightly higher prioritized exception. B toughness B agility. >dude just block LOLnow all my ki is gone and the enemy is still attacking and i die. great advice
So will there be revenants like in Nioh 2 ? I know there won't be a proper pvp, but revenant is a nice enough system.
>>730603206Nice playtime but that post is a common pasta to bait nioh threads
>>730603664Sar, your dodging sar???Rolling like Ramesh when he bathes in the river Ganges, sar! Very good idea
>>730603787i know. i just wanted an excuse to post my playtime. i love nioh 2
>>730603230Sounds like a skill issue. I dodge exclusively in low stance
>>730599582? DaS is easy
>>730603839Don't we all
>>730603825>>730603854you dont get to do the jeet defense when pooferllama looks the way he does. i really wanted to give you guys the benefit of the doubt with these games but you really do seem to just be Soulstards: Forma Contraria
>>730603664>hatchets (or any dual weapon in general)>B toughness>out of ki after blockingNow you're just lying
>>730603230If you need to pretend to be retarded to keep a thread alive, why not just let it die?
>>730604023>muh youtube celebDon't care nigger, you suck at the game and somehow that's the games fault but you never took it seriously because some youtuber is a jeet? Get a grip
Nioh 2 is one case where I genuinely believe the gameplay would be made more fun by making it "easier"If you made this game like, 20% easier in terms of annoying fucking enemies, it would be actually fun as hell (though the maps kinda suck). They put arguably one of the most fun combat systems and then slapped it behind enemies that make it feel like you can't even engage with that system, unless you study every single move and counter, its fucking stupid.Its a good game in short bursts but MAN it feels tedious at times.
>>730604259actually you're brown and didn't play the game. sorry
>>730585494>>730603230>>730604259hmm
>>730604442Oops
>>730604023Poofer is an actual retard who can't play properly>so ummm haha yeah I'll make content if you just totes join my channel and post your build I'll fix it>every single fucking 'fix' is just using one of OP skills or setskino
>>730604298>>730604442>anyone who disagrees with me is brown and didn't play the game! No, I wonVery insightful stuff. Thank you.
>>730603230Different games have different learning curves anon. Nobody is lying to you, you just haven't gotten good enough at the game's mechanics yet. Tracking actually isn't that aggressive in Nioh for many enemies though it varies by attack. For example, you can use the zig-zag motion of 2kat's Raijin skill to avoid certain attacks simply due to the movement of it, but that will take a lot of practice and familiarity with enemy move-sets. If you don't know already, out-of-ki yokai are fully stagger-able so that's when you can perform longer combo strings on yokai. Hitting weakspots will briefly stagger them and do a large amount of ki damage so you can often continue your combo during that brief stagger to lead into the full ki break and then continue your combo from there. As for hatchtets, you can setup many throw combos with Advancing Storm, Wild Surge, Boulder Breaker, and Piercing Hurl. Boulder Breaker is great for spacing and you don't need to charge it if you don't have enough time.
>>730604602>not even denyingThis user is brown and bad at the game
>>730603230people are indeed underselling Nioh's difficulty, maybe expectedly but you will rarely hear about the experience of the ones that were struggling and dropped the game
>>730604023>you dont get to do the jeet defense when pooferllama looks the way he does.what the hell does any of this even mean
>>730604442You'll reply anyway
I still have no idea how anyone finds Nioh 2 hardNioh 1? YesNioh 2 gives you npc summons at the first fucking mission, elixir drops are like every 3rd enemy, somtimes dropping 2 of them, between Monkey Dance (a fucking jump into the air to dodge shit) and Razing Edge (Mezuki), you deal with like 99% of situationsOutside of possibly being too retarded to understand that you should get the two skills in shiftling to increase ki regen in the yokai/dark realm, I fail to see how anyone can struggle with it
>>730585226I also didn't really like it very much
>>730604663The tracking in nioh is very forgiving in general. Especially if you use the low stance dash for dodging
>>730604663>>730604864NTA but I think the 'problem' with tracking in Nion is people have no clue how to dodge.Like Nure-Onna's grab, if you dodge too early, she will try to track you since her tracking is based on where yo uare when she lunges for that attackLikewise, the Oni with the single katana who does I think 5 slashes, first two was were you were, then the othre three are were you moved toIt's just basic understanding of 'different attacks - different tracking'
These Medusas are hard as fuck. They would be mini bosses in FROMSLOPs.
>>730604797ADD, autism, emotional instability, lack of patience, being quick to anger, lack of a formal education, lack of basic critical thinking or problem solving skills, burnt out dopamine receptors requiring me to be constantly watching/reading social media while "playing games", spending more time watching others play or talk about video games than actually playing them, western civilization in general. But really, enough about me.
>>730605136Amusingly Nioh has the same issue with the music that most souls slop style games have: it's going to distract youMost people unironically easily beat Hino-enma if they turn the music off
>>730604797never used summoning in this game, even when roadblocked for hoursthere a bosses that are fucking insane like Toshimitsu or Hayabusa
>>730585226>nioh threads can now only get traction through bait OPs because 3 added body typesGrim.
>>730604765Jeet looking down at another jeet of a lower caste
>>730605509>either of them>hardSar, the tonfa, fists, corruption and the yokai abilities to keep ki regen sar????
>>730605064Yeah it's something that comes from experience with the game
>>730605596bloody benchod, I scampus your mother
>>730603695Yeah, it's in 3.
>>730603695There are revenants and where there are lots of player graves a boss yokai can be summoned. Giga nigga revenant which is just aberrant warrior model from 2
>>730605728I wouldn't say 'experience with the game' but would say 'experience understanding games aren't just simplistic'Nioh 2 generally introduces yokai 1 by 1 to get you used to them so you can fight them over and over if you go back to the shrine outside of a fewSo you can practice easily>>730605762Not my fault I can read in sanskrit and understand the game
>>730605893>using turbo revenantyou didn't beat the game
>>730606224I haven't even bought the game yet
The great thing about Nioh is that it gives you everything you need to learn the game. Training, stat resets, forging, everything. On fact it gives you TOO much. So many buffs you might aswell pal an MMO.
Hiddy
>>730605585and what does any of that have to do with nioh
i played 1 up until somewhere in way of the nioh years ago and tried to go back to that save a few months agocouldn't remember how to play or what gear did what or anything reallyshould i just restart or just wait for nioh 3 then buy nioh 2 and forget 1 altogether?i like william, he's coolonly 10 percent of people played as a woman in 1 kek
>>730606549ok let me know
>>730606909What I do in situations like these is back up my save and start a new game until remember shit, or in cases with games like Nioh that allow it, just start replaying story missions as if I'd started a new game until I remember shit.
What about Jack's game?
>>730607367It's peak I'm afraid
>>730607529Care to elaborate? How is it compared to Nioh?
>>730608554Nta but it's good though a little different. It's a little more focused on the RPG building aspect in the later difficulties but the core combat mechanics are still good and never become irrelevant for most builds. At least the builds I made were strong but still needed good action skill to use properly. The focus on RPG stuff is more because it's based on Final Fantasy and the job system plays a big role here. It's easily TN's best execution of "build making" though because the job system and affinity effects just synergize really well with the action combat. It's one of my favorite modern TN games alongside the Nioh games. I still like Wo Long and RotR but I put SoP above them personally. I'm also a light FF fan so I appreciated the change of pace from the usual historical stuff. Each mission is based off an FF game which I appreciated. The story is goofy but strangely endearing and I actually ended up liking it and the characters by the end of it. I still wouldn't say it's a game that you play solely for the story but I liked it anyways. Combat is a little less technical in terms of input complexity but there's still depth there and the weapon types feel fairly unique from each other. You'll certainly be pressing more than one button but it's not like Nioh with double fluxing for example. There's a lot of fun and flashy action abilities and I liked it a lot overall.
>120€ for the whole gameI wonder if waiting a year for the whole game was a blessing or a curse...
>>730610925I see, sounds like a right game. Thank you.
>>730585226Only /v/ overrates it. In the real world everyone knows it's shovelware.
>>730608401blessed
Do you keep the skill points you get from locks after a stat reset? I imagine you do, but just checking
Snake in 2 was the most obvious choke point ever put into a video game. They lock so much shit behind it and by the time you get to it there's absolutely nothing else left to do but throw yourself at him
Janomecho wife
>>730616463Yeah these games have some of the worst pacing ever put to a video game. Hopefully the open world sorts it out
>made a fresh start DoTN template save with trainer>ran a full DoTN campaign with all main and side missions>finished underworld by autist spamming axe, ippon and onmyo>depths still waiting>150 hours clocked like thatfeels good to be back nioh bros
>>730610925> I actually ended up liking it and the characters by the end of it. I still wouldn't say it's a game that you play solely for the story but I liked it anyways. Nioh, Nioh 2, SoP all share a common problem for me where the characters and overall story seem fine but the actual moment to moment writing to get there ranges from middling and boring to tiresome and slightly obnoxious.I should note just in case anyone gets the wrong conclusion that, for SoP specifically, I get why Jack and his crew talk and act the way they do and I think it lends to the story and later reveals well, but the actual dialogue writing is still largely hard to listen to and what they are doing to get to the larger story beats is boring
>>730616463The one before Dosan that you can target the midsection of? What's hard about it? Most of its attacks are straight ahead and its huge so just standing by its side made it, to me, easier than even regular smaller enemies that can more quickly turn to face you.
>yatsu no kami raping new players on NG making them wanna hang themselves and quitoof>yatsu no kami in NG+++++++++++ not being allowed to breathe or move while being confusion cycled and combo raped to death in 20 secsquitters dont know these are two whole different games
>>730618038pretty sure they had to fix its hitboxes after release, so people picking up the game on PC/after DLC's came out are getting a very different experience.Also rushing retards not draining the poison making it hell on themselves.
>>730616463that song is burnt into my brainhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bWP7X0v9bg
>>730618547never realised how much this OST just sounds like something straight out of ninja gaiden 2
also this is probably my favorite death song in any gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW2xvVZ9Pzk
>>730618813I dont remember the last time I had music ON while playing Nioh 2 but this one always brings back nostalgia for Nioh 2 demo
>>730591384I played the demo, the "level" was fine at the size it was. It contained several different environments. There were rice fields, small villages, and 2 set piece locations. One was a surprisingly vertical small town with 3-4 layers to it, the other was the instanced demon hellscape. If they maintain that level of diversity to each "level" or "region" or whatever you want to call it, it'll be fine by me.
this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNianImkWkA
>>730605762good post
time to seduce commodore perry some more
>>730593960I remember lots about the plot when any foreigner comes on screen, especially Kelly. He's funny.
