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We need to stop victim blaming fans for being turned into Fan #2 by greedy companies

>>730601503
the only issue with this image is that thing fan #2 invariably has 2x-10x the time investment in thing, without fail

Switch the second line

I fucking hate retarded frog posters so much.

>>730601752
this

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>>730601503
So close

Thing #1 turns into #2 over time. We were all thing 1 fans at some point in our childhoods.

>>730601503
>thing fan #2
>barely actually interacts with thing
Nah that's definitely not accurate. thing fan #2 has 6500 hours on steam and plays the game every day, bitching all the while

>>730601876
thing fan #2 describes blizzdrones to a T

>>730601773
Why, did they call you out on being a greedy corporation?

>>730601503
this is some serious fucking projection from someone that likes nu-thing and sees no problem erasing the legacy it stands upon

>>730601503
This is not a choice you make. This is an inevitability when retarded corpos and faggot "fans" invade your passtime.

>>730601612
too true, twitter retards have become ultimate supreme goodgoyim for demonizing fans with any skeptical takes or critical viewpoints, you MUST consoom the product and NOT complain and NOT tell other people what's wrong with it and JUST BUY IT
that's why when I want to get into a new game I check on /vg/, people who have spent 5000 hours hating a game will tell you the worst parts of it with incredible clarity and detail, and if what they're describing sounds like what I'd be able to tolerate then I'm confident in going in

>>730601503
>You can't be a Thing Fan #1 while having genuine criticism for it.

>>730601876
second last one on the right moved to the left.
add 'wants THING back to how it once was' to the right

>>730601503
Ascended Thing Fan #3 who grows past #2 and learns to love Thing again.

>>730601503
That thing on the left should be killed. There's nothing worse than mindless consumer faggots with shit taste.

>>730602145
this is how i approach reviews. a million positive 'omg i pet the doggo' reviews don't mean shit if even one person can outline a series of objective flaws like timewasting menu design or whatever

>>730601503
>constantly updated game's developers barely follow any feedback beyond what they gleam from overall community sentiment and maybe what content creators say

>nooooo do not criticize THING, only bad people criticize THING, you are an awful miserable person if you do not like THING, just shut up and consume product
shalom

>>730602251
exactly, I always say a complaint is worth a lot of complements, even when I'm telling my friends to play a game I like I won't shy away from telling them my biggest annoyances with the game, I'd rather they be informed and not go in expecting something flawless
like, my favorite game is xcom ufo defense but holy shit the hide and seek when there's 1 ayylmao left is so mentally exhausting sometimes

>>730602162
Nah, fomo tourists don't have grand ideas. At most it's basic stuff like "omigosh add dating mechanics!" while mazed autists have entire rebuilds thought up in their head

>>730601503
lol right is literally every blizztard. Why are they all such scorched exwives?

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>>730601503
poe1 on 4chan in general
that shit has some of the most burnt out niggers who REFUSE to let go
like literal niggers who have been screeching about it for a decade

>>730602470
they have been gaming since before you were a sperm cell in your dad's nutsack and watched blizzard go from the most beloved gaming company to literal satan, and unlike you they were around before the entertainment industry was filled with unavoidable cancer
it comes from experience, be thankful everything you like was always shit and you never had to see it turn that way, it's better like that

>>730601503
>encyclopedic knowledge
thing fan #1 knows literally nothing about thing

>>730602564
I JUST WANT ENDLESS DELVE BACK
I DONT GIVE A SHIT IF IT WAS A SILLY LITTLE MINIGAME MODE IT WAS THE MOST FUN SHIT EVER
BRING IT BACK I HATE LIVE SERVICE GAMES GIVE ME BACK MY GAME!!!!!!!!!

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>>730601773
We don't hate you back - too busy :)

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You don't find it concerning or sad that you validate your opponent calling you a bootlicking shill by providing everyone with retaliatory, hyperbolic comics like this, which blatantly shows you live in an alternate reality where criticism is seen as a bad thing for anyone but a publisher's bottom line?

>>730602905
Constant seething isn't criticism, it's a negative cycle and unhealthy.

>>730603071
to look for points of improvement is human nature, our brains want us to do better constantly, to look for flaws and imperfections and correct them however possible. it's not unhealthy, it's a sign you haven't been groomed into tolerating mediocrity.

>>730603071
things that are actually good don't provoke constant seething

>criticism is le bad
>you must consume product and get excited about next product

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>>730601503
Thing Fan #1 sounds like a goy slave.

>>730603232
>>730603302
like clockwork

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thing fan 1 is textbook "fan of the fandom" while thing fan 2 actually plays the videogame and criticizes it because he wants it to improve
thing fan 1 is a massive hugbox nigger so he sees the criticism as "hatred" and "seething" because NOOO YOU CAN'T DISLIKE THING, YOU ARE LE BAD

>>730601503
thing fan #2 is the one with encyclopedic knowledge of thing, not #1.

>>730603691
>I engaged in discussion and someone replied... heh! like clockwork! you're so predictable for disagreeing with me!
sorry i answered? what did you want me to do

>>730601946
Look all I want for classic + is some class balance tweaks and new content ok

>>730603693
You're lying if you claim there aren't mentally ill retards who just spend all day every day writing up seething shitposts about their pet hate obsession.

i dont understand all the anons ITT who act like you have to mindlessly hate everything. there's nothing wrong with actual criticism but thing fan 2 is clearly beyond fair criticism and just never says a single positive word about thing. not being full of braindead hatred doesn't make you a le consoomer goycattle or whatever the fuck. i guess most anons are thing fan 2s and feel called out or something lmao

>>730603968
if more of the consumerbase was fan #1, products would steadily decrease in quality as their sales go up regardless of standards
if more of the consumerbase was fan #2, products that fail to meet a quality standard would also drop in sales
see: pokemon

>>730603968
>mindlessly
You disagreeing with my criticism doesn't make it mindless

>>730603968
>who act like you have to mindlessly hate everything
who are you quoting?

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>>730601503
Both are just opposite sides of the same coin.
So the correct path of action is to throw the coin in the gutter to get rid of the problem as a whole.

>>730603962
Those arent fans, as they will have as much superficial knowledge as fan1 (despite what op image says, topic 2 is absolutely the opposite), they are just haters.

As an example, pokemon
>hater
pokemons is shit, its the same shit everytime
>fan1
This is why i like it (if they are shallow cunts)
OR
Nu-huh, it changed on A, B, C and D!!!(if they actually know somewhat of what they like)
>fan2
No, it changed on A, B, C, D, E, F,...and Z. And here is how some of how of these changes SUCK!

>>730601503
It was fair about three sentences in, but it looks like it's just complaining that people stopped liking something.
The author is probably upset that people aren't eating up the new version of "Thing" and that makes them upset. For example, it fits perfectly with what people say about nu Star Wars for example, because they just can't admit that the spark is gone and the new version if bad, therefore people who used to like it are bitter and obsessed.

At some point you just accept that things turned to shit and move on, but you can't help to say
>Is Thing still a thing? Wasn't it shit and flopped? How are they still making it?

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I feel like this is desperately trying to misattribute the current phenomena of people that fucking hate things but "get into them" for social reasons, with people who are extremely passionate about stuff and critical because they love it so much.
You know the reasoning error that leads some people to think long time /v/ users hate videogames.

>>730605904
You know how like people who LIKE Crash Bandicoot are some of the people most critical about Crash 8: It's About Time, not because they hate crash bandicoot, but because they love it so much and see beyond the superficial surface level where it SEEMS like the game is doing things right.

#2 is a much healthier outlook than #1

>>730601503
You can hate something and still want what's best for it.
Being a mindless consumer who thinks you're only allowed to provide positive opinions is not something to be proud about, by the way.
On the contrary, it makes you look like a fucking faggot who has nothing to say.

>>730604108
that’s fair, but you gotta admit some of the so-called “criticism” ITT has been nothing but low-effort bait and doomposting. there’s a difference between wanting thing to be better and just using it as a punching bag because it’s the current hate-train.

>>730605705
>At some point you just accept that things turned to shit and move on
The problem is these people don’t fucking move on and actively prevent discussion of Thing, and often their grievances boil down to “it’s not what I want”

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>>730601503
This is basically how I feel with Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds. It dropped and I was having so much fun and now the game is just exhausting to look at in my library thanks to metaslaves and clanfags treating the game like it's some hyper-competitive e-sport and not a casual kart racer.

>>730601503
>Game series is good, retains its personal strengths and appeals without removing core aspects
Fan #1
>Game series was good but turned for the worse without improving later
Fan #2

There's no reason to blindly support things being made worse, as they often are.

>>730601503
The first guy doesn't like Thing, he likes Thang
The second guy is downtrodden from years of people ruining Thing to appease the first guy

>>730601503
Fan #1 is a mindless slop consumer whose mantra is "don't think, just buy". Not a real fan, just goy cattle.
If you can't critique a thing you like or point out its shortcomings, you are the same.

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>>730602719
Fuck Frogposters with a Rusty Harpoon

>>730602071
>Doom
>Pokémon
>Star Wars
>video games as a whole
So many franchises have been fucked over by this

>>730606497
>low-effort bait
I hate it too but remember where you are, hell the entire internet has become engagement culture rather than anything of any substance, next step is to learn to identify and ignore the fakes

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>>730606564
I became a #2 with Mario Kart after World so I decided to jump ship to Crossworlds and see what it was like. It was fun for the first month but as I put time into it it became clear how bad the item balancing is and how sweaty people get at the higher levels. I know older kart racers were also pretty competitive but MK8DX was never this bad.

>>730605705
The artist is a Fnaf fag who got "famous" because he hates Scott and old Fnaf, but I guess he's okay with the nuFnaf sludge pipeline

>>730604050
But WoW is entirely Thing 2 and they still buy product

>>730607048
The reason MK8DX wasn't this bad really comes down to the fact that you actually got invincibility frames after being hit, unlike in CW where 5 different items can hit you back to back and basically glue you to the ground. MK also didn't have a gimmick that allows you to be invincible nearly the whole race but alas.

>>730607076
WoW has been flooded by Fan #1 which is why they are even still afloat
If the playerbase collapsed and they were forced to make the game better there would be less Fan #2

>>730602157
Pretty much lol. If I say “yeah X could be better but it’s still fun” Fan 2 screams like an autist because if I just joined his crusade X would be better after 10 years

>even bad Thing moments bring them comfort somehow
Has this person ever interacted with a single fandom in their life? Most fandoms survive by pretending half of the source material doesn't exist. What a masterclass shitpost if this was not made honestly, I am mad.

>>730607981
Thing 2 actually exists, Thing 1 is the assertion of Thing 2 and the binary in the image is making fun of them

>>730603865
yeah i'm sure the retarded DEI-infested company that has been uninterruptedly fucking up the original version of the game, then classic, and then SoA, and continues to fuck it up for the past decade will magically get their shit together.
dumbass

Thing fan #1 does not like thing, they like the idea of thing. You can change everything about thing until it's unrecognisable, and they will act like it's still thing and love it.

>>730602564
Arisu forehead smoochie

>>730606524
>these people don’t fucking move on
How can I move on if almost every time there isn't a proper replacement for said thing?

>>730609227
only good post ITT

>>730609258
There is no way your interests are that narrow

>>730607000
Unlike pokefags nuwars fans don't actually put their money where their mouth is.

>>730609452
Oh, hey it's the FNAF-fan Discourse.

>>730609386
Still couldn't find a proper Star Wars replacement so far.
And yes, I'm picky as hell.

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SKUB HATERS GTFO

>>730609507
That’s because Star Wars decline in quality is real while Pokemon’s is a forced meme by people who never liked the games as games

>>730609574
This is literally every fan discourse for anything that has become popular with normalfags.

>>730601503
this is literally just project moon threads with the retarded faggot trying to be a new thread schizo

>>730601503
I'm neither. I'm not afraid to call out bullshit about Thing but I'm also not perpetually jaded and cynical about Thing.

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Of course /v/ identifies with the joyless and bitter loser

>>730605904
>You know the reasoning error that leads some people
In my experience its only 30% an error and 70% of the time it is someone who doesn't want games to be criticized pushing the idea that if you point out a flaw or are critical of it then you hate it. It is a very convenient narrative for a company that wants to lower the quality of something and silence anyone who notices the shift.

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>>730610107
Of course you identify with the mindless secondary consumer.

>>730610296
Vidya is the most secondary form of media next to anime and movies. Get a real hobby, nigger.

>>730610415
the fuck does that even mean?
you don't know what "secondary" means in this context, do you?

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>>730610415
>Vidya is the most secondary form
So you are a secondary consumer and now that that fact has been pointed out you have to say that vidya as a whole is "secondary" to cope.

>>730610107
>>730610415
retarded normalnigger

>>730610543
Who gives a fuck about being a "secondary" when it comes to video games? How the fuck does that even work? It's extremely accessible media. Being a "secondary" only matters in things like tabletop games, manga or other niche interests. Not fucking video games which are the most normalfag thing ever.

thing fan #3
>friends with fan #1 and #2
>only passing interest in Thing
>has actually spent more money on official Thing products than fan #1 and #2
>creators of Thing cater the Thing to fan #3 and ruin Thing

>>730610689
Have you ever played Thief or Morrowind or Rome Total War you dumb bitch?

>>730610689
motherfucker do you not realize how popular let's plays and vidya streams are

>>730610689
>How the fuck does that even work?
You say you like thing but never actualy touch it only fan made shit.
>video games which are the most normalfag thing ever.
No TV like reality shows are way more normalfagcore.

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>>730611156
3rd guy is me with tf2

>>730610689
>Who gives a fuck about being a "secondary"
You do since you started sperging out when I called you one.

>>730611262
The term multifandom really shows that kids now are fucked in the brain. Everyone likes more than one thing. It's not notable.

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>>730611262
i gotta wonder with this "multifandom" meme, do people think it's special to be a fan of multiple things, or is it dumbasses not realizing people who call themselves fans of one thing could also be fans of another thing?
like is it the norm to only be a fan of one thing, or is it the norm to be a fan of multiple things and retards just THINK it's the norm to be monofanatic?

>>730611424
>>730611432
Kids really are the biggest retards on the planet.

>>730611424
>we are not fans we are fanatics
>we do not like works but brands
>we do not think we consume

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>>730611156
Fuck

>>730610832
Yes I've played Morrowind and Thief and likely before you were even born.
>>730611243
I do not give a shit about video games anymore. It's all just mindless consoomption by this point like Hollywood movies and reality TV. It's normalfag to the extreme. All my blue collar coworkers do is talk about video games and drinking and drugs. There is nothing to preserve in this medium any longer and acting pretentious over them is extremely gay.

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>>730611432
It's more of an issue with how social spaces for shit are structured online these days.
Imagine /v/ (minus all the shilling and with like 400% more people posting games they actually care about and not super general vague topics to avoid the jannies getting mad about what game you posted and banning you for three days) but you had to specify what games you like as tags before you're allowed to see anything.
Now imagine everyone you talk to has to do that too.
That's how things like this happen.

>>730611746
>I do not give a shit about video games anymore.
Why are you on the video game board then? Go to the car one, or /k/.

>>730601941
That'd make fan #2 seem mentally ill

>>730611746
>I do not give a shit about video games anymore
You never did, you are just coping and saying everyone else is a secondary consumer like you because you were called out and you ego wont let you stop. Gp cry on reddit or shitcord

>>730611948
Isn't that better for the strawman?

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>>730601503
this image omits one very important fact

>>730611948
Fans are mentally ill, yes.

>>730601503
#2 is the real fan by the way

>>730610171
Not all criticism is equal. Nobody has a problem with measured opinions, it’s when criticism gets dominated by things that are unfalsifiable or truisms that people get annoyed. And also spamming 0s at perfectly functional games to protest and other such faggy behavior

>>730601612
fpbp
Good companies making good products and games keep me acting like Thing Fan#1. Trash creators will turn me into Thing Fan#2. Monster Hunter comes to mind, and it's been almost 9 years since they lost my goodwill. Fuck MHW fuck wilds fuck rise fuck all nu-mh shitters

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Zoomers ruin everything they are fan of while simultaneously tellinv previous fans not to complain that it shit now.

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>>730611424
>tfw liking things

You retards wouldn't understand

>>730612820
bike cuck

>>730601612
fpbp

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>>730611746
>"you're a secondary"
>*walls of cope*
yikes

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>>730612820
ok nerd

>>730612519
>truisms
What’s does this even mean?
>spamming 0s at perfectly functional games
A game being functional doesn’t matter if everything else is shit. You can have a game that never crashes but if the content in of itself is trash then I’m not going to give it any points.

>>730612820
Shit like this always comes off as disingenuous and inorganic. Like imagine being the guy who has to performatively say how much he loves something in front of everyone constantly. It never comes off as genuine care or love but rather just being a contrarian or trying to piss people off that dislike it.

>>730614086
he just like me

>>730614086
me with all the different kinds of futas

>>730614086
Based

>>730614086
whats msgk
mesugaki?

>>730602145
>>730601612
it bothers me greatly as fan 2 that a bunch of retards are trying to stop from me venting frustration towards live service games making bad design choices, like nerfing non egregious strong options in a PvE game, Hell divers 2 for example. instead of trying to strengthen the primary weapons to be reliable for general use, retards screech that heavy ordinance stratagems are necessary because lel can't take down a bile titan with your primary weapon, you need XxX Railgun420 to even dent a bile titan, thankfully you can load up on strikes to compensate but this type of stupid design is defended as integral to the experience instead of panned for its idiotic design because MUH STARSHIP TROOPERS
I don't even think Helldivers 2 is a horrible game but why does the dev team insist on making shitty changes to "Shake up" the meta when the glaring problem is numerous guns feel like shit and don't provide enough benefit for their use cases and again, retards defend game design like that.

>>730601503
You obviously already know it depends on how a series is being handled by its developer/publisher and how jaded you are towards it. If you can keep the quality-streak up then I'll remain a Fan 1. Continue to fuck it up while retards lap it up and I'm a Fan 2 now, at least until I realize it's hopeless and move on entirely into a non-Fan.

>>730611156
Fanatic however is entirely the fan's fault. At some point you have to realize OCD is not the same as enjoyment.

>>730614534
>what does this even mean
I used the wrong word, I was looking for tautology. Circular reasoning where you are basically defining yourself as correct without actually making an argument

>>730610415
>Get a real hobby, nigger.
We have one.

You have fleeting trends, fairweather goycattle faggot.

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>>730614886
good job, anon

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>>730614086

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>>730601503
Everything is an ultimatum now. We have removed grey areas and nuance.

>>730601503
I suppose #1.5
Enjoying something done well, and holding accountable when shit, aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

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>>730615543
Yes that is unironically one of the big symptoms of an autistic mind. It's why you see so many videogame fans complaining not just if something's quality is good but if it's "correct" or not.

>>730603691
>Dude just coonsume product and never try to think critically about product just constantly chase dopamine releases until the honeymoon effect wears off or until you consume next product
Sorry friend, but some of us want to engage in the medium more than merely consuming

>>730612743
Jokes-aside the fourth one ought to be "Thing Enjoyer", i.e. just a casual fan who isn't obsessed like the other three.

>>730603962
knowing the difference is the struggle. There are just faggots who exist to hate, those people have as much value for an opinion as someone who mindlessly enjoys everything they play. Problem is, fan 1 will write off any criticism as fan 2 and a game gets objectively worse when people with genuine points of critique are thrown out because of that type of rhetoric

>>730601773
struck a nerve?

>>730607048
Considering Sonic itself is the epitome of OP's schism of lifelong fanboys both blissful and jaded, it's a positive that Crossroads was even quality-enough to be considered an option for you after MK turned you into a Fan #2.

>>730615661
lol

>>730616156
I don't really think you could accurately describe Sonic fans that way especially with the weird quasi-tradition online of pretending to be a fan of it and establishing a variety of problems that do or do not exist within the series.
I say this as someone who was on the internet in 2006 and got to watch in real time people try to decide whether every sonic game (that they never played) was bad, the 3d ones specifically were bad, or specifically '06 started a trend of bad 3d sonic games.
Typically these coming from people that DO NOT like the series at all.
Not that there's no issues anyone has, like from people that actually play Sega games saying they don't like the current trend that every sonic game has denuvo since PC gamers tended to like playing SEGA games, or specific issues not intrinsic to the games technically, like Ian Flynn being a shitty comic book writer and Crossworlds being a pretty terrible value since it's like $100 day one for all of the shit they're making for it, or minor in game issues like the bosses in Superstars taking too long because of i-frame bullshit or how Forces' air control being shit because the values were lifted entirely from Lost World rather than being rolled back to generation's values.

>>730615295
> Hell divers 2 for example. instead of trying to strengthen the primary weapons to be reliable for general use, retards screech that heavy ordinance stratagems are necessary because lel can't take down a bile titan with your primary weapon, you need XxX Railgun420 to even dent a bile titan, thankfully you can load up on strikes to compensate but this type of stupid design is defended as integral to the experience instead of panned for its idiotic design because MUH STARSHIP TROOPERS

But that’s not even something you can debate on any grounds other than “I don’t like it”

>>730615543
It’s because nuance takes effort and tribalism doesn’t. You’re either “based” or a “hater,” there’s no room to say “this part was good, this part was awful” without being labeled. Everyone’s trying to win imaginary internet points instead of just having a conversation.

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>>730602171
Me but with Pokémon (exclusively Gens 1-6, MAYBE vanilla SM if I am feeling generous / extremely happy on certain days)

>>730601612
Nah. If you were proper thing fans, you'd be able to excommunicate greedy entries. Unless Thing for you was some live service constantly connected and updated slopped where you don't have any control over the servers or hosting away from them, then--it's actually still your fault for liking that AND not having the talent to make your own netplay caster lololololololololol like fucking Darkspore has made progress in having a local server you have no excuse L-MAO

>>730601876
>the circulate logic no true scotsman
God you're such a Fan #2 Fag it's incorrigible

>>730615543
There is no nuance to be applied in real world application. If you're a fan, then you fall into such things. If you don't, then you're an enjoyer. Learn what the word "fan" means you tard

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>>730612820
>>730614086
>>730615536

>>730601503
I know everything about Pokemon BW, even very obscure shit, and i hate Pokémon for wasting that potential, so Number 2

>>730601612
Fpbp
trannies on suicide watch

>>730618236
>I only like Thing when it’s MY hyper specific vision, even though current thing isn’t meaningfully different
You’re number 2 lol

>>730616709
I'm primarily referring to the broken fandom that vastly prefers one style over the other, namely Classic vs. Modern, or just the fact that for oldfags the consistent quality has been absent from the series for over two decades now. Meanwhile children and genuine addicts who will buy anything with Sonic's face on it have kept the series alive and well albeit in a zombie state.

>>730618490
qrd

>>730619108
>I'm primarily referring to the broken fandom that vastly prefers one style over the other, namely Classic vs. Modern
This distinction also didn't really exist until Mania came out, even if there are people that pretend it's gone back as far as Generations.

>>730619251
No that's just when Classic vs. Santiago was becoming thing, the Modern schism (or just Adventure since Modern is treated as the third ring) certainly goes back to somewhere between the DC itself and when the mid-00's drop in quality happened.

>>730619212
Artist of the original abused his wife and was also caught DMing to minors
(he's in heaven)

>>730621251
No specifically it was the problem that there was a fuckload of Switch owners and Sanic Mania was like, the SOLE sanic game they had to play and mostly came out as a post factor rationalization of this "non-choice".

>>730621619
Mania wouldn't exist if the fandom split wasn't a thing to begin with, hell even Sonic 4 wouldn't exist either.

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what's the appeal?

>>730612743
based

>>730601503
Thing2 fan happens when a series goes to shit or thing is genuinely bad and the second line is swapped

>>730624042
No, Thing 2 fan happens when Thing 1 fan gets tired of being Thing 1 fan for whatever arbitrary reason (be it justified or not) and now he has to overcompensate by being an obnoxious faggot

Spend enough time with something you love and you can learn to hate it

>>730601503
OP's pic is fucking retarded
>really like thing and looking into thing and talking to people about thing
>understand thing has issues but won't bootlick or endlessly shit on thing or thing's creators (unless they deserve the latter which doesn't happen often)
it's not a black and white thing, you can still enjoy thing and have issues and complaints without being an uppity cunt about everything.

>>730623642
You are honestly retarded.

Criticizing something is not hating it.
Criticizing something is not hating it.
Criticizing something is not hating it.
Criticizing something is not hating it.
Criticizing something is not hating it.

>>730611156
I am a fanatic and I can describe it as love, I love her and will and have died for her and I do hate, hate anything that detracts from the perfect personhood I have seen.
It is far too much to get into genuinely because times come and times go and the world is increasingly mongrelized and cares not for things in any way but the vapid appearance of "care"
I know it is not complicated, but the deadly poison of irony and miscegenation has made any kind of dialogue longer than two sentences impossible.

>>730624712
My bad, I'll remember from now on that Classic, Adventure and Modern fans were a single unified fandom until Mania (specifically only the Switch owners) came out of nowhere and singlehandedly caused the fandom split.
Thanks fellow gigaretard-kun.

>>730626212
Attempting to state a different completely retarded thing nobody said doesn't make the retarded thing you said not retarded.

>>730623839
I haven't played it but the porn and memes are good

>>730627221
Oh so it's Touhou.

>>730601503
#2 for Sonic except for point 5 because I love the franchise's talented creators and all of them leaving is why it sucks now.

>>730601503
>puts creators of Thing on a pedestal and is emotionally attached to them

That is not healthy. People who form parasocial relationships with certain game devs are the fucking worst