What went wrong?
>>730617873After you play 60-70 hours, you realize that you have seen everything and it isn't interesting enough to continue playing. I am not complaining. I got my moneysworth for sure. It just isn't well-suited as a forever game.I do think they needed more vehicles where you ride together as a group, and make combat better suited for it. The 4 wheeler is only effective as an one time across the map transportation (which takes no time at all), and then you should all get out and leave it.I also think there was a bit of a failing in making the game easier. It IS fun to run around like a chicken with your head cut off, and people salty about dying here or there kinda ruined the game.
>>730619635The new content isn't really interesting either.
>>730617873No stakes. Just endless dailies and shit. Whether you play or not is irrelevant despite the hype about the game mechanics.Still waiting for an MMO where everything in the world is in an actual threat of being destroyed forever.
>>730619635the post I was thinking of making but was too lazy to. I got my hours in; there's just only so much more game time you can milk with a monthly (or every other month) injection of a few weapons and strategems
>>7306178731. kernel spyware which i had a bypass for at launch but then they patched it so not playing anymore2. warbond grind, just imagine how dull and repetitive creditfarmslopping is when you're over a year behind3. i had a falling-out with my frens who played and randoms suck
>>730619937Yeah, the only over arching thing about the game is a story, which is more scripted than a movie. That prevent people from thinking about their over arching goals with the game long term. You quickly realize there is nothing else to gain.
Got stale too fast. Was fun for a little while but after 3 or 4 warbonds, i moved on.
>>730617873Honestly? Like, no shitposting, no trolling, no flamebait bullshit?Joel. He literally rail-roaded every fucking Major Order to cater to the story he wants to tell. The only times where players agency weren't over-ridden was at Malevelon Creek, and when the divers refused to be given Anti-tank Mines. Every other MO or side-objective was meddled with, whether it be invasion strength being too high initially, and being lowered as the MO was looking like a loss, or a defense campaign being lost because no one wanted to fight on whatever garbage planet the order was for. Even during the invasion of Super Earth Joel kept fucking meddling even when +220k players returned to the game just for the chance to fight on Earth.There was and is no real risk in failing or winning an MO because Joel will simply use his powers of Deus Ex Machina to shift the balance to whatever ends he wants.
>>730620227>warbond grind, just imagine how dull and repetitive creditfarmslopping is when you're over a year behindKinda feel like the opposite. The real issue is there is nothing worthwhile to grind for. After a couple warbonds, you have what you need. Rest is just fluff.
>>730617873Intentional self-sabotage from Arrowhead, who have done nothing for the past two years but to make the game as unfun as possible. It's honestly impressive... I've never seen a developer work so hard at releasing patch after patch nerfing every single fun thing about their game into the fucking ground. They hellbent on their so-called "vision" of making you feel like a useless grunt and they absolutely will not stop until every weapon sucks, every strategem sucks, and you're dropping in with literal nerf guns into alien planets that are overrun with hordes that will repeatedly one-shot you until you run out of stocks. That's their vision and they are sticking to it, to their own detriment>in b4 skill issue
>>730617873Fighting the automatons is fun as fuck. They're my favorite.The Illuminate I feel like are a cool idea but they are really boring and one-note to fight.Ultimately the game seems to pose an interesting premise but does very little to iterate from the basic gameplay, and once the spectacle of big explosions wears off you realize that the combat is really nothing to write home about and won't get you addicted.
>>730620579Also of course I forgot - the game now runs like total shit. I am not talking about the file size, I don't care about that. I care about the fact that with my 5800X3D + 4080 the game ran smoother than butter on launch, with the frametime/FPS grap being perfectly flat with minimal stutter. And now the game devours my CPU and the frametime graph looks like watching an EKG of a cardiac arrest. Game's optimization went down the toilet over time as tech debt piled up.
>>730620460It's still amazing to me to this day that ever even confirmed the existence of "Joel." They should have just kept it quiet that the whole "galactic war" thing was a scripted charade. The idea of an overarching, galactic war is brilliant, but the whole idea immediately falls apart once you reveal that it's scripted.
>>730620539But that IS a skill issue. I can't even begin to count the amount of missions or even operations I've fought on Helldive when it was still the hardest difficulty, and on Super Helldive when it came out. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen.
Swedes are the masters of fucking up a golden goose. They'll release a buggy game with tons of potential and then take twenty 2-week holidays off a year so nothing gets done.
>>730620753okay faggot
Honestly, the best thing they can do is literally just make the sequel/spiritual sequel, abandon Helldivers 2, and use a working engine this time.I also think the issue is they have no capability to make a forever game. Two or three weapons every other month will not make the game more interesting. They need more interesting, and more creative content, more frequently. They just can't do it.
>>730617873The sweedish.They have had to take now two ‘cleanup periods’ of severals months to delay new content to play catchup on the game falling apart or intentionally malicious balancing to ruin things that are fun.I hate europeans so fucking much, bros.
>>730621015Okay so we're just going to ignore the fact that they buffed nearly every weapon at LEAST twice, and a significant fraction of those weapons got buffed even more as time went on? Or the time they reworked armor values, then reworked them again to make sure nearly every weapon and stratagem did consistent damage potential? Or the time they reduced nearly every single stratagems CD's? Or the multiple times they added new weaknesses to tough enemies because shitters like you cried so hard? Or the time they made one last round of buffs to the weapons after all of this was said and done? Or the time that reworked fire damage? Then again? Then again? Then again to the point where fire does more damage overall now than it ever did before?Fuck out of here you worthless fucking plebian. At least clap back with something that is less trite than "okay faggot" so I can mock you even more. Niggers like you shouldn't even have access to the internet, much less EBT.
>>730622110nigga wrote an essay over being called faggot LMAOOO
>>730617873Game is hilariously unstable and breaks every update.
>>730622110You're replying to a LLM, anon.
>>730617873Maps and things to do are too absent/boringLook at maps on games like dark tide and things to do in the game are severely lacking besides just kill stuff
>>730619635FPBP, it's a boring skinner box that should have been a $20 budget title that's fun for a few hours with friends.
>>730617873TSD
I came from Deep Rock Galactic where everyone helps each other except for the scout and people are wholesome chunguses focussing on the objective.In HD2 people bombed their own position without remorse and ran off solo to the point where I stopped playing.
>>730617873The developers intended to make an awful game and accidently made a fun one that had mass market appeal, and every since they've been making it worse out of spite for their failed vision.
>>730620460Dataminers found audio and video files for an outcome of Super Earth falling though. Why would they bother recording and animating anything if the intent was to just have it be scripted? Or was it the intent that there be multiple possible outcome but Joel, or whoever the actual retard is behind the curtain running the Galactic War, is just tilting the scales to whatever they feel like on their own initiative?
you can't turn all the guns into nerf toys, break enemy ai, and expect people to keep playing>filtered by le difficultyHelldivers isn't fucking MGS2 on Euro Extreme, it's a game about wish fulfillment. Give me that or lose money
>>730617873Listening to reddit instead of sticking to the company policy which created the game's success.
>>730617873I love it, but its way too fucking easy. Its really sapping the joy out of the game because the other three guys on my team are basically AI running around doing their own thing as I solo the entire map. There is no forced teamwork.
>>730622110absolutely seething lmfao>Okay so>clap backyou have to go back, faggot
>>730622110I'm not going to reinstall (despite the game only being 23gb now, the only good change they ever made, good job on that), but I bet I log in and everything feels like shit compared to release and you are just coping.Same shit every time, I'm not gonna get baited by some fanboy again.
Thoughts on the Maxigun?
>>730626101it's alright vs bugs if you're ok without a backpack crutch
>>730626101The most useless support weapon for bots.Kino for bugs, especially in tunnels. Should be also great for ayyyys, for all the 3 players who play there.
>>730617873Nothing? What do people want out of this game? I've already put 80h into it and I'm still having fun.
>>730617873New content is boring.Too much cash shop bullshit.It became extremely obvious early on that the whole "War" thing is just a pretend layer, and it's just whatever the developers want to happen is what does.
>>730617873The decision to make it one big never ending war that we'll only ever win or lose because some random asshole decided it's time for that. Shoulda just done whatever the first game did and let it come to an end, just for the board to be wiped clean and restarted.
They just fumbled too many times, every enemy they introduced since the illuminate update has been complete dogshitYou genuinely have to wonder what kind of drooling fucking retard looked at leviathans, war striders and rupture strain as they were released and thought "yeah this is fun and balanced" (all of those still aren't particularly fun to fight even after the changes, at best they are obnoxious but bearable)Also the GM is constantly ignoring or actively going against player efforts and even sometimes straight up fucking them over for no good reason other than to be a spiteful faggot, the galactic war is frustrating as a result and half its mechanics aren't even explained so there's no reason to be invested
>>730617873Performance/stability issues and every update growing the bug list. I'd still be playing the game if it didn't crash so often.>>730622110Status effects have been garbage since AH fixed the multi-application bug. Even before that, they didn't work if you weren't the host. Fire was never good but it's worse now because it does 1/4 the damage and still has host/guest sync issues.
>>730623071>>730625513Nigga got btfo because he doesn't know what hes talking about and now hes coping lmao
>>730626778Oh yeah I forgot about this, most status weapons were already pretty mediocre even with this bug but now half of them are completely worthless.
>>730625875Just read the patch notes instead of blogposting nigger, if you genuinely have issue with this game at its current state and its not because of the jank coding thats a (you) issue
>>730627023Those guns are AP1 (except Penetrator) and still suck. They can't damage the problem enemies at higher difficulty.
>>730622110>Okay so we're just going to ignore the fact that they buffed nearly every weapon at LEAST twiceSo they buffed it twice after nerfing it 10 times? That's nice...
boring as shit, what's the point of adding anything new when everything dies the second you look at it? Oh they added a new automaton, oh it instantly blows up the second when you shoots its dick zzzzzzz.ten difficulty levels and you can literally fall asleep on D10. What's the point of a horde shooter when you spend most of time running somewhere with nothing to shoot. LESS enemies spawn the longer you play, who the fuck thought that was a good ideaD9 used to be fun for a few months after launch, now it's all a boring snoozefest
>>730627213>outright lying
>>730617873>runs like shit>drops fps the longer you play>has audio problems>takes up too much space in default versionYou have to buy stronger hardware to compensate for the terrible game optimization to help it achieve mediocre results.
>>730619635The salt was never about dying, it was about the devs being unable to beat difficulty 3 in a 12 difficulties game and then balancing the game entirely around that + crossplay bugs.
>>730617873Nothing. It's just another DRG where you play it here and there and have fun.Not sure why you guys feel like you HAVE to play something like this every single day of your lives for it to be good.
>>730627396Medium Pen is what I meant. I forgot they made unarmored two AP tiers. AP2 can't damage Hulks, Factory Striders, Harvestors, and Overseers' weakpoints. Likewise, you have to bleed out chargers to kill them. Light Pen is a wasted slot in 8+
>>730626101Fun as fuck
>>730628015NTA but you clearly don't even play the game so why post about it
>>730617873It's too fucking easy. The game should be beating my ass on D10 like legendary Halo 2. It should be cool and awesome to succeed consistently at that level. It should be a difficult choice to extract at all vs taking the risk to 100% the map. It isn't because it is too fucking easy. I came into the game late and apparently it used to be much harder. It's sickening to see that that was what the audience wanted and what they catered to over time.
>>730617873Unless you dedicatedly farm SC it can take kind of a long time to earn new warbonds. Which means the "new stuff" trickle feed is not quite fast enough to actually satisfy playing it forever.So its fun but becomes pretty repetitive as you build loadouts that are best for you and don't deviate much.I'm not too down on the game though. Got like 150 hours out of it and I'm quite happy with that.On the other hand, I started playing EDF 6 and I'm realizing that its somehow 1000% better. Each mission has a distinct challenge, reaorganizing the existing assets of map, enemy placement, combinations and spawning methods to make each mission at least somewhat unique. Even the missions which are supposed to be exact repeats due to story reasons swap out enemies from spiders to grenadiers and shit. Plus, at least playing as Air Raider, the allowance to be completely over the top and raw variety of weapons, which are allowed to be under and overpowered, makes it much funner on a moment to moment basis, imo.
>>730628354Whatever you say, anon.
>>730628532>t. nerftranny
>>730617873They didn't do anything big wrong, it's still a really fun game and one of the best coop shooters out thereHowever they fucked up in two ways, listening to the "I need to be able to perfectly clear the highest difficulty despite being shit" crowd and making things easier and overly bloating the game with paid battlepasses making it a nightmare to return to after a while or starting as a new player
>>730628532There's a line the devs could have walked, but chose not to.The line is making d9 extremely difficult but doable with a coordinated team. d6-8 hard but accessible to the normies so they can get Super Samples, and keeping the lower difficulties as training wheels. And make D10 the bust your balls difficulty with a big red warning and shit so you know you're playing big boy difficulty.
>>730627213>he thinks the punisher plasma, literally a medium pen EXPLODING weapon can't damage enemies on higher difficultiesyou are the dumbest nigger
>>730628625What that anon meant is you play the game but you don't spend all day on reddit so why post about it?
>>730629043This is a valid question.
>>730628015>AP2 can't damage HulksThe back>Factory StridersUnless you're popping belly panels for whatever reason why the fuck would you be using an AP3 weapon against the most armored enemy in the game>HarvestorsThe eye and internals>Overseersliterally everywhere but their head >you have to bleed out chargers to kill themChargers are way easier to pop than they used to be, even then bringing AP3 doesn't solve the issue if you want to pop their legs/face/arms/undersideYou do know you can use your primary for clearing trash, an AP4/AP3 sidearm, an AP3-anti-tank grenade, and any support weapon or stratagem to mitigate these issues in your loadout, right?
I'm having fun
>>730628625>73 hours and bitching about AP issues/v/ never fails to out themselves as shitters lmao
>>730628625As I said, you clearly don't play the game, so why shitpost about it?
>>730617873Refusal to accept that fans played the game for reasons that dont include being an impotent grunt.
>>730628786This, I was thinking of picking the game up over Christmas. But all the fomo shit made it an easy pass. Me and my friends decided on Borderlands 3 instead.
>>730629774All the passes are permanently there though?
>>730628015The ablative armor of Overseers is best destroyed with light pen, even if you can't blow up their head. The only thing light pen is not good against for illuminate Haversters (as you said), but surely you got a side arm, grenade, support weapon, eagle, turret, or orbital to deal with the only enemy light pen can't handle on that front. I do kind of agree on the bot front that med is superior. Yeah you can head shot lots of things with light pen so it can reward precision. Until a heavy devastaor is not look at you from the proper angle you can't shoot it's head or stomach but it can still somehow pivot around the shield t's arm and blast away at you. This happens to me quite a lot on d10 since heavy devastators pretty much replace regular devastators. So sometimes I just want a medium to blow them away without worry about the headshot. Same with armor scout striders, sometimes they already shot off both their side missiles so their easy weak spot is gone and I just want to dump some med pen into it's crotch to kill it quick and dirty.
>>730628532>It's too fucking easy.Ayyys are piss-easy because they are half-assed unfinished excuse for a faction.Bugs difficulty is in right place for caves and predator strain I'd say. Sometimes pure bullshit, sometimes easy, but overall fine. The normal bugs are on the easy side.Bots have 2 states. First: you spam recoilless and other braindead anti-tank shit, and they are easy as shit, by far the easiest enemies in the game.Second: you don't pick any proper anti-tank and spend next 30+ minutes with your eyes permanently rolled while the war strider #36 ragdolls you for 10 seconds straight while turrets try to one-shot you from god knows where while the only thing you can do to stop this is put your hands away from the keyboard and wait for any of your teammates with recoilless to stop this circus.
I quit playing before they brought in the 3rd faction and the city. Is it worth coming back to?
>>730630019The 3rd faction is still undercooked right now but some of the new weapons and support strategems are really fun to around play with
>>730630019not for those jobbers. least played faction for a reason
>>730629774There is 0 limited time content idiot
no lifer with 2,200~ hours, the game is fine as it is. it is probably the best battle simulator on the market desu
>>730617873Lots and lots and lots of things Still the thing is alive and I'm still seething diff 10 as bot exclusive player
>>730630206HD2 is the new standard for horde shooters and I hope EDF learns a fucking lesson on what a quickmatch is supposed to be
>>730624517I bought Darktide and Deep Rock Galactic instead of Helldivers, and goddamn it's so fun.Not sure if I did the right choice, but I'd have liked to play Helldivers II, even if it's a third person shooter.
>>730629940>Ayyys are piss-easy because they are half-assed unfinished excuse for a faction.This is my biggest complaint of the game. It needs like the Council Members, those invisible dark templar kind of units, and also that one tank unit that would throw down force fields that could cut you in half if it hits you and block you. It's crazy that all they ahve to do is look at HD1 to make the illuminate better. Then after that give them a sub faction. It's been more than a year, it's inexcusable.For bots, I don't see why it's bad that you have to bring anti tank. They are literally mechanical tanks. There's plenty of fun anti tank options, but maybe part of the problem is there are so many warbonds you have to go through to get them.
Blizzard has a secret Star Craft TPS project going on in development the theories are either Helldiver clone or Destiny clone
bullet drag, spongy enemies, too much ragdolling, and unbalanced damage taken which meant I have to stim on almost every little hit. All of that eventually made it stop being fun.
>>730630250>EDF>learns anythingEnjoy your PS2 AAA-priced game with 30 DLCs.
S tier: DRG, HD2 A tier: Vermintide 2B tier: EDFRetards: Darktide, Destiny, Borderlands
>>730630396>S Tier>HD2 over DarktidePFFFF HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>730630396I'm willing to die on this hill over Darktide. It's actually a pretty great game, anon. Not sure what got you to put it on the retard tier.
>>730626491I hate war striders so much it's unreal as for rest? I don't play anything else but bots
>>730630250EDF is better than HD in almost every way but ease of online matchmaking.And honestly, the goddawful menuing and obtuse weapon descriptions are the perfect way to gatekeep it from shitters.
>Instantly triggered darktide trannies Every time. They can't cope with being the cucks of the horde shooter genre at all.
>>730630648EDF is a gear check, instantly making it worse than all other horde shooters apart from Darktide which is even worse.
>>730630650???You didn't trigger me at all, anon. I was pretty fine and collected.
>>730627371You don't play the game faggot, do you?
>>730630527People with 2000 hours in ratclick prefer to be stabbed in the ass by teleporting rodents for half their health. Its like a guy raised around the smell of shit hating the smell of flowers. The shittiness makes them think of home.
>>730617873>release a great game>make it worse with every patch>pretend to listen to players>do everything they don't want for 2 years straightSome devs aren't cut out for the live service genre
>>730630527Darktide is dogshit
>>730630745I honestly couldn't hook up with Vermintide 2. I tried it for like 10 hours but I just couldn't. I became too spoiled by Darktide, and that made me feel like Vermintide 2 was """incomplete.""" It sucks because I love Bardin.
>>730630312If it was Blizzard and not Activision Blizzard I might care. But luckily I'm not an idiot who thinks they are the same company.
>>730630473Are we really implying that Darktide is good?
>>730628625That's nothing faggot
>>730629774>Borderlands 3Ngmi
>>730629662I'm not bitching. I'm pointing out that screeching about light pen weapon buffs making the game too easy is silly.>>730630906No. It's Helldivers 2
>>730630861Darktide is significantly more polished, gameplay wise.Problems with it are special spam and the entire metagame with weapon acquisition. Which has improved but VT2's simpler system is just better.Ultimately I think DT is better, but I do sort of see why someone might prefer VT2.
>>730629940>Second: you don't pick any proper anti-tank and spend next 30+ minutes with your eyes permanently rolled while the war strider #36 ragdolls you for 10 seconds straight while turrets try to one-shot you from god knows where while the only thing you can do to stop this is put your hands away from the keyboard and wait for any of your teammates with recoilless to stop this circus.Ah yes
>>730617873Guns feel samishStrategems are either total shit or ridiculous Enemies are literally braindead When I first started playing, it seemed interesting and deep, but then you get to around 20 and are doing 9s only and you realize you basically beat the game.
>>730630996Honestly, I like the special ability spam, mostly because most special abilities aren't giga gamebreaking or have downsides. Though yeah, I agree with the weapon acquisition stuff. Vermintide 2 is cool but it pains me that it wasn't as fun as Darktide.
>>730631040Do diff 10 solo with no Ui then
>>730629940>Not picking any anti-tank against the faction that has literal tanks.There is something to be said for digging your own grave, anon. Obviously there will always be retards who screech about "let me play whatever I want! :( " but I think we can all agree you should be better than that. Bringing a flamethrower to a sniper fight isn't going to win you snowflake points.
nothing. it was goty by a long shot
>>730631040Joining d9 as level 20 is just getting a team of level 150 to carry you. You're dead weight, you don't got shit unlocked or upgrade, you didn't do anything. Says more about those people willing to carry dead weight.
>>730630730i prepurchased and loved the game. Used to play D9 only and thought the railgun + shield nerfs were well deservedenemies were way more fun when they demanded interactivity. Like cracking armour with AT and shooting the fleshy undersides with primaries. You needed every single call-in to count, from eagles to orbitals to supply. The game got boring as shit ever since they buffed weaponry to cheat levels and reduced enemy counts on top.there's ten (10) difficulty levels. If you found the game hard then you always had the option to turn it down. Meanwhile the game is fucking boring on D10, and you can't nerf yourself with alternatives because everything is OP or useless as a joke.
>>730630987Nobody was arguing that light pen buffs were making the game easy
>>730631131You didn't need anti tank on bots before war striders. You'd bring it if you couldn't aim/didn't know enemy weak spots, every bot enemy died in 2/3 autocannon shots if you knew where to aim. AT was a clutch for shitter but it's now almost required because you never know when the game is going to hit you with 12 war striders at once.
>>730631183I played from the beginning before the retarded 150 shit. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>730631309>You didn't needSure but why would you torture yourself?What are you saving your AT for?What else is even worth bringing if its not making the game easier for you?
>>730631261>and thought the railgun + shield nerfs were well deservedI disagree about the railgun. I think it was a poor decision to where the ACTUAL issue was purely just a lack of options. That's why even now no one really uses the railgun even though the nerf was undone and got a buff. There's actual options now, on release there wasn't. People were saying that at the time, too.
>>730631281>THESE GUNS ARE GONNA BE SHIT>okay they got buffed>BUT THEY'RE PEN 1 THEY'RE BAD>they're pen 2>I MEANT MEDIUM PEN 3 THE BIGGEST ENEMIES IN THE GAME AND ENEMIES THAT ACTUALLY DIE TO LIGHT PEN DONT DIE TO THEM>AP3 doesn't either and those enemies that die to light pen do die to light pen>WELL ACTUALLY YOU'RE SCREECHING ABOUT LIGHT PEN BUFFS MAKING THE GAME TOO EASY THATS SILLYlol, lmao
>>730631409No torture. It was exceedingly rare you'd be in a situation that absolutely needed it explicitly, other than bad angles.
I forgot to add, since the seething greentext tard above me reminded me, the armor system is really fucking stupid and railroads a lot of the gameplay and load-outs.
>>730631315Anyone who played the game on release would remember the absolute madhosue chaos bots were on the civ extract missions. Most people are nostalgic for that difficulty. Here you're trying to pretend the game is as easy then as it is now. Typical /v/edditor pretending to play a game he's bitching about.
>>730631409>Sure but why would you torture yourself?Only a bad player would think that. The point is that it was fun to bring an AMR or AC or whatever and shoot at their weak spots. They were the precision faction where heavy pen weapons would shine. AT always made more sense on bugs because of charger and bile titan spam.Now if you don't bring AT for bots you're going to spend half your time getting ragdolled and running away from war striders. They're a garbage enemy and retards think they're fine because muh anti tank.
I bought the game on Xbox and by the time I got my final achievement, I was wondering what the fuck all the hype was about. It's an OKAY game but like another anon said, once you've played 50-60 hours, you've seen everything the game has to offer and there's really nothing left to keep playing for except more boring strategems and War Bonds. I saw a bunch of level 150 people during my time and I thought they were all insane. I got to level 33ish and I was burned the fuck out. I'd rather eat shit with my hands like a poojeet than ever grind to 150 in that mid ass game.
>>730631654I remember not doing them because it was a waste of effort. There were no tools to adequately control them.
>>730631654>Most people are nostalgic for that difficultyMost people hated that mission because it was untested, unbalanced and nearly impossible unless you had 3 guys kiting the bots around the map while the last dude did nothing except run between the 2 doors. It was garbage and you're a dumb nigger for suggesting otherwise.
>>730631824>>730631881>game was too easy, but also I avoided the actual hard missions>>>/reddit/
>>730627893>NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU FEEL SLIGHTLY BORED AFTER PLAYING FOR 10,000 HOURS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE 6 MILLION PLAYERS IT'S SHIT
>>730626917This. Had a bud who used arc stuff. He dipped WAY before I did due to arc being nerfed to being unusable. I was a flame trooper(and had other stuff for the bots)but I eventually caved and dipped too once flame became totally useless somewhat recently.
>Sony killed their momentum>Fuckass battle pass>Grinding system that's a huge slog makes you burn out faster>Can't seem to decide what the game balance is supposed to beFirst game not making you to chase dailies and battle pass meant it was a lot more fun to just fuck around and do missions.
>>730631824>>730631881You could load into a regular bug mission on like d6 on release and fight 2 bile titans and 5 chargers. You didn't play the game if you think it was easy on d9 back then even outside of that bot mission.
>>730630730The Reddit spacing gives these troons away. Redditors love to rage bait people who actually used to play this game.
Not as good as EDF
>>730631615You have no argument and you're doubling down on more shit. What railroads the gameplay and load-outs using armor?
>>730632025>bug niggerWe're talking evacuate on release with bots. Why do these threads always devolve into the stupidest posters with egos?
>>730631929It wasn't "hard", it was retarded. The bots would literally drop right in the middle of the evacuation site and kill the civilians. The only working tactic is the one I mentioned and it clearly wasn't how it was intended to be beaten. Nigger.Now we could probably handle that mission better because we have access to better CC and our weapons aren't complete dogshit anymore but you are a fucking retard for thinking this was a good example of difficulty.
>>730631131What other anon said, if there's no fucking war striders you can run any support weapon. Flamethrower melts everything in seconds. Chainsaw melts everything even faster. Stalwart is great for dealing with everything smaller than a hulk if you can aim, stalwart + stun/gas can deal with hulks, +jump pack can deal with tanks. Airburst can even oneshot hulk if you're lucky. AMR/railgun obliterates everything. Gas spear is effective against everything. Arc, wasp, grenade launchers, laser pointers, everything works up to the moment you get war striders seed. Swedes are fucking retarded.>Why would you torture selfBecause I'm fucking tired of running recoilless and/or eruptor over and over and over and over and over again, I want to use all the different weapons because it's the only thing swiggers can't ruin, the weapons feel nice to use.
>>730632112The part that some enemies become near invincible. The armor system should've been destructible with any weapon and durable damage is why we had retarded shit like blowing off leg armor and the buckbreaker. It is bad game design.
>>730629774Fucking grim
>Log in after having not played since Spring>Get my complimentary capes with no context for what they are for, and the MO medals I never participated in (jokes on me, I was at the hardcap - set in a game I've already paid for).>New warbonds out the asshole with no hope of getting them because harder difficulties and map layouts with less POIs still don't compensate the smaller number cred spawns and I'm not taking a whole day to poopsock farm.>Galactic Map looks the exact same because they want to stickhandle some ebin 'story' instead of the better community-driven campaigns of HD1>Guns suck less ass, customization is ok, not very well balanced and is overpriced for how much diverbucks you make.>There's a few new enemies, mostly annoying and unfun.>There's a few new objectives, mostly variations of just blow it up with a Heckbomb>City fights still suck ass, orbies have to redirect all the time and destruction of buildings is paltry.Game has just run out of steam, seems to have no direction beyond more DLC and the odd enemy. Zipping around from point to point is only fun for so long.
>>730631183Some hours ago i played with a guy called condom seemen, he was level 20 and somehow he cleared an entire meganest by himself.
>>730620460Anon, China literally prevented not-Shanghai from ever going below 100% during the invasion because they didn't understand the Super City functions and thought they were liberating it and held it for days.
>>730617873>have to spend money to buy currency to buy battle passes to grind for new gearor>spend days trying to get all available currency from the free pass>spend days more trying to get currency from any mission possible>have to grind medals in order to unlock shit inside battle pass
>>730617873insufferable playerbase that doesn't know what's good for them
>>730630637Reduce the grenade spam they do to half, and make it have a longer fucking cooldown. Like holy shit, and their hips being their major weakpoint and not their heat sink is horseshit.
>>730631309anon... the autocannon is an anti tank weapon....
>>730632163war striders have four AP4 weakspots>but I can't stalwart themlower the difficulty if you don't want to bring a single AP4+ option to bots
>>730632730I'll give you a hint anon, if his ammo counter wasn't blinking red or he didn't call that many stratagems, he might have had a nice glitch where enemies just stop spawning around specific players if they're too far from the group that just got a bug breach called on them. I've had that happen loads of times.
>>730632974No it's not. It's a heavy pen (AP4) weapon. Anti tank (AP5) is recoilless rifle, EAT, unsafe railgun, etc.
>>730633042And those are new genius, they released without those.
>>730633368except the one (actually two) they did release with: the hip joints.
>>730632392They really don't make enemies invincible when the game gives you so many options to kill heavily armored enemies when your walled off from killing them with AP2/3. Everyone already told you this. >The armor system should've been destructible with any weaponWe have weakpoints to essentially bypass armor and you were bitching about about how long it takes to kill them, how would that make anything any different aside from making the game easier than it already is?>we had retarded shit like blowing off leg armor and the buckbreakeryeah, back on launch. when leg armor was only easily breakable on railgun. nowadays theres a shitton of options to break armor like Quasar, Recoilless, EAT, (even tho it already broke leg armor), SPEAR, MLS-4X Commando, and the W.A.S.P launcher.The entire basis of your argument is based off of how bad balancing was on launch and nothing else. Armor isn't even much of an issue on anything beyond bots
Pure unfiltered Swedish arrogance. The round about Coyote nerf, their suppressor "logic", and justification for no more gun customization from the recent Dev talk have killed any interest I have in the game and in turn anything else made by that studio.
>>730630648I dont remember which edf i have but it broke so hard i can no longer play multiplayer with my m8s so its a shit game.
>>730633042>war striders have four AP4 weakspotsThey're the only bot unit to not have an AP3 weakspot. Even the fucking factory striders have one.>b-but just shoot them with AP4!In a vacuum yes, but good luck aiming at their tiny shitty weakspots with a HMG or laser cannon (both of which are perfectly fine on literally any other bot enemy) while they move around and endlessly ragdoll you with their grenades. If you don't have AT, 99% of the time it's not worth the time and ammo and you're better off sticking a thermite on them or just straight up ignoring it.It's the least fun and engaging bot enemy and it single handedly ruined the faction. When they came out they didn't even have those weakspots. The fastest way to kill it with AP4 was aiming at their little leg joints and they had more than twice the amount of health of a fucking tank's hull (and better armor). It's clear there was no thought in their design besides "hurr just shoot it in the dick with AT".
>>730619635>After you play 60-70 hours, you realize that you have seen everything>60-70 hoursIt happens long before that.>Land on planet>Run in large circle>Leave planet
>>730617873>Fun>Good>Updated more than any other shooter>Everything can be earned in-gameLiterally, the greatest third person shoot ever.
The gameplay loop is really fun still, just as others have mentioned the devs are pants on head retarded. Nothing you do matters because Joel chooses every outcome. He does this because the devs are like 20 people who go on vacations all the time so they can't make anything but one scenario which you are railroaded into.
>>730634003Pretty sure we fail major orders all the damn time because most players do not know how to read, they just see blinking indicators on the map and pick the faction they're interested in fighting.
the swedes should stop fucking making coop games, it always goes this way
>>730631281>nobodyExcept this guy >>730627023
>>730627023>Tenderizer my belovedGod, I just wish I didn't eat through so much ammo.
>>730631982I was an arc user too, shit was great fun and unique but then they nerfed it because fuck playersmy friend was constantly crashing every session due to the bugs so once the arc nerfed I called it quits and my friends all stopped playing too shortly after, that was what nearly 1+ years ago
Game runs like shit and knowing that there's a game master controlling the "war" ironically makes the whole thing feels directionless .
>>730634126It's always the fucking swedes or the russians with this shit. The weird insistence on making multiplayer games but outright refusing to listen to any constructive player feed back.
>>730634164My screenshot wasn't indicating I was just talking about light pen weapons, retard. This was just the top of the most recent balance patches for the weapons. Lib Penetrator is in there
Every time I see the cover image I think of that one post that compared it to a big stinky yellow fart cloud you'd see in fetish art.
