activate that water purifier and DIE, vault boy
>>730617950fallout 3 had one of the writers of all time
>>730617950Nice way to soGO FUCKING KILL YOUSELF YOU USELESS WASTE OF GENETIC MATERIALBravo Todd and Emil.
>>730617950He was right
>>730617950its garbage writing, but still stronger thematically than new vegas
>>730617950Its the end of the game, who gives a shit?
>>730617950Charon not wanting to made sense, his ass would have gone feral and in Broken Steel that is what the punishment for making him do it should have been but I will never understand Fawkes refusing, what the fuck were they thinking? He's literally immune
Trips and Emil is thrown into the Toddgeon and forced to eat all of the garbage Fallout merchandise that dosent sell.
>>730619959its not if you have broken steel installed
>>730620978That means you should care even less
>>730617950it was already changed officially in an update shortly after release faggot
>>730621835>an updateLol no, a paid dlc.
>>730617950Women and feminine men like OP wouldn't understand.
>>730617950Sharteens will really claim this is better than FNV
>>730622086pipe down brownoid
>>730617950>purity project is supposed to purify the basin's radiated water and give access to drinkable water to the entire capital wasteland>purifier is located downstream from the entire game mapThis always bothered me.
>>730617950I will and I do. Best story in the series.
>>730617950>companion speech checks the player into killing himselfBravo Emil, truly revolutionary story telling
>>730622315Listen I know you are too young to have been there and are just getting your info from YouTube or tiktok or whatever
>No you stupid vault dweller your dad read a bible passage to you when before you knew your own name so you have to fucking kill yourself
>>730623278This but unironically and if more people were literate then the real world would be a better place.
Explain what the problem is
>>730620336Ghouls don't go feral from radiation. Also Charon is a brainwashed meatpuppet who HAS to do anything his employer demands.
At least this attempted to have some kind of excuse for not letting you play after the main questline, but broken steel fixes it anyway. In NV the devs' excuse for not being able to continue playing is "yeah we just couldnt come up with anything sorry"
>>730617950Are there any mods that allow you to join the enclave?
>>730623418New Vegas was made in 6 days, Josh Sawyer had to rest on the 7th so the Post-End content couldn't be implemented.
>>730617950>why yes, I will step into the chamber and do it myself, but I will telepathically inform everyone in the wasteland that you're a giant pussy for coming up with a pragmatic solution instead of killing yourself
>>730623560Oh I see, so New Vegas is lazier than FO3.
>>730623603>pulling rank is pragmatic>even when it's your destiny
>>730617950>You took a stimpak, you're a dead man walking anyway.
>>730623706Broken Steel proves it's not the lone wanderer's destiny. What the fuck does Fawkes know about it?
>>730621835>writers quadruple down on their retarded writing and call the player a pussy if you don't do itlol
>>730624137fawks is also not one to be talking shit about destiny as I could have just as easily left his ass in that fucking vault to rot. how they even wrote such a thing is absurd, the pre-dlc reasoning is already stupid but even with the broken steel add-on>oh mr fucks was the REAL hero, the vault dweller didn't do shit lolyeah the fucking supermutant that would have not been here if my ass didn't save him from a locked door was really the hero of man. also the brotherhood turns their fucking mutant racism off really fast to glorify the ghoul or mutant too, crazy how that works out then proceeds to not be brought up ever again, they get the fucking honorary aryan badge for like an hour just so the game can be a sassy bitch about you not killing yourself for no reason. everything about the ending is so fucking stupid.
>>730617950Fallout 3 was so good, I hope they do remake it. Way better than Reddit Vegas.
>>730623340The end of the game is written such that you supposed to go into a heavily irradiated area to activate a water purifierOP image is your radiation immune party member refusing to do it for you and telling you to go kill yourself for no reasonThe whole premise of the situation also ignores the fact that you might have sided with President EDEN and didn't want to activate the purifier to begin with
>>730624361based
>>730623560>New Vegas was made in 6 daysIt literally feels like it was
>>730622314sharteens don't have any actual beliefs, they just want to make you mad
>>730622314>>730624619What the fuck is a "sharteen"?
>>730623706why is it the destiny of a 19 year old lone wanderer to kill himself for no reason?
>>730624725read the bible
>>730619845Obsessed
>>730617950all they had to do was have him say "sorry my fingers are too big for the keys xD"
>>730625719All they really had to do was separate you from your companions so that you're forced to sacrifice yourself
>>730625882This.>enter purifier>companion stops you and says "you go on while I hold them off">they leaveIt was that fucking easy
>>730625882>>730627914you fags would cry about that too, you find it impossible to just accept the theme of the entire game built up from the very start. what are any contrivances going to help with.
>>730617950He's right, you're the vaultborn, it's your destiny to become legend.
>>730628212The theme is retarded and Email Pagerugo is a bad writer.
>>730628212the game reading you a bible verse at the start is not 'built up from the start'. you can run around murdering, stealing, and fucking eating people and it still railroads you into a sacrifice so pointless they had to made DLC to retcon it
>>730628212Please; tell us the theme of this game and show how the theme was established throughout the game.
>>730628212Having no companion available to press the button would actually make it the player's destiny. Destiny is a higher power preventing other options, not what some pseudo religious companion decides.It would also turn an act of pointless stupidity into a heroic sacrifice
>>730623418Why did they do it in the first place?Bethesda games usually let you play after finishing the main story, why not this time?
>>730629303there's also the issue that turning the water purifier on is not a pressing issue at all, that shit could waitat least make it a nuke seconds away from blowing up or something
>>730617950>Okay I'll let the thing explode then how about that nigger?
>>730624784the bible does not command suicide when there's an alternative.
chop chop lesser evolved
>>730617950>is that a fucking EMOTION in my ya game about teen angst and daddy issues?!>WAAAAHHPlay a different game.
Adam Adamowicz was taken from us too soon. They intentionally pivoted from the faithful to 1 and 2 art style in 3 for the hideous 4 style because he died.
>>730628438mom and dad had a dreamthey fell in lovemom dies having sondad continues dream when son is olderson is forced to leave vault and pursue daddad dies trying to achieve dreamit all falls down to the son and the theme comes full circle
>>730620978If you have Broken Steel installed then he agrees to do it, so that's a moot point
>>730617950this was such a bad game. the beginning of the end for bethesda
>>730633078>son leaves the vault and immediately nukes an entire town>dad says "thats crazy my nigga, anyways back to the purifier"this really was our destiny 2: forsaken
>>730633078>dad dying means you have to die the same shitty way instead of trying a better and creative solution to the problemlol
no one realizes just how short the fallout 3 main story really is
What would even been the point of activating it if I die? Theres no point to other people being alive at all if it costs me my life.
>>730617950this shit is so stupid some isekai chinese writer actually wrote a better fallout story
>>730624557Yea and fo3 feels like 5
>>730617950>"DUDE, CHADOUT 3 IS TOTALLY PRO-FASCISM">ending is literally you being forced to sacrifice yourself to spite a bunch of fascists who wanted to poison a water purifierBravo Todd
>>730617950>it doesn't cost me literally anything, I don't get affected by this magical radiation that only affects humans, it's just two steps for me, in and out>it will cost you your life to do it>GO DIEGreen subway zombie cleaner 3 is a bad game no matter how you look at itAnd it was ugly as fuck
>>730617950should've made it so you could convince him to change his mind with 100 speech check like Legate Lanius in NVnot that that's any better but it would atleast satisfy all the troons that won't shut up about it
This shit made me wish there were an ending where you get to side with Autumn and kill all the mutants in the Wasteland
>>730617950Better option would have been to kill him over this disagreement ,shepard would never lets his companions disobey him like this
>>730633623baffling post
>>730622932>picHow do they put their sleeves through pipboy if it's never supposed to be taken off in F3? (they changed it in F4 hahaha)
It was a great game but fuck that ending pissed me off. Some of the laziest shit I've ever seen
>>730633623>was portrayed by macaulay culkin
>people glorify the themes of sacrifice as if they never released broken steel to undo itthe way defenders talk about fo3 is so confusing, they seem to treat it like it just released a week ago
>>730633624I'm forever astounded that there are even people who like or even remember Autumn, he's such a total nothing of a villain or a final boss.
>>730633649Jack is so fucking cute when she smilesAlso I wanted to rail Chakwas in ME2 when I first played the game. We got to drink wine and all. And then nothing happened. I was disappointed
>>730633841like benny?
>>730633976what?
>>730633976not the final boss you stupid fag
>>730633976what did he mean by this
>>730633976You again!
>>730633927thats because she is a 10/10 and the prettiest girl on the game
>>730634038>he's such a total nothing of a villain
>>730633927jack uses he/him pronouns thank you
>>730617950Nate "The Rake" would never have accepted this shit
>>730633078>the theme is literally George Lucas's "It's Like Poetry, It Rhymes"Good Christ, someone actually thought that phrase was insightful.
>>730634118why would you post this horrible slop when there are plenty of good images of her
>>730633841I like his voice
>>730634125Benny is a cocky shithead that tried and failed a power play, he's not a villain in the sense he's a major faction leader he's just a triggering event that causes your PC to get involved
>>730634125You actually want to kill Benny. Of course on the 180th playthrough it doesn't have the same effect.
>>730633927Jack is always cute.
>>730634118>she is a 10/10Jack is objectively and conventionally beautiful, that's a fact. And she has those big dicksucking lips>>730634131>jack uses he/him pronounsFalse, she's normal which is clearly stated in the game. She's loyal and loves dick
>>730634125>>730634249This. I liked the way he was written for that reason, he's an antagonist that isn't a stereotypical "le evil villain" he was just someone who made a move and got the courier caught in the middle of everything
>>730633841Autumn was the Enclave schism that never was. Eden just plain wants to kill everyone but it's hinted that Autumn is moderate and would rather bring America back to tame the wastes instead. >Autumn has Eden's self-destruct codes lying around because reasons?
>>730633841Autumn had the potential for a interesting character which is shown only for a short moment.Autumn isn't like Eden or like the pervious Enclave characters where they just want total wasteland nigger death. He sees the average wastelander as a citizen of the U.S.A. and thinks that the brotherhood shouldn't be trusted with the water purifier and that they don't have the right or legitimacy to govern. There could have been a lot cool rpg elements where you can ally with Autumn but leave it to bethesda to just make a typical bad guy with zero depth and for some reason make the player kill the enclave but still add the FEV into the water? Why?
>>7306346863 has weird scraps of a evil playthrough sprinkled in, it feels like they were gonna have a completely different alt path they scrapped most of. the FEV spiking or nuking megaton are both wildly out of character choices for a fairly railroaded player character
>>730617950I really don't understand this. Couldn't they just have it so only you could enter the purifier room without any companions? Have them run away last second or hold off the enclave, or have the room entrance be blocked off by some rubble when you walk in. It seems like such an easy fix
>>730634686>kill the enclave but still add the FEV into the waterWe can't let you be a "bad guy" but you can be comically evil murderhobo. Don't worry your father still loves you until his essential tag is set to 0.
>>730634781>3 has weird scraps of a evil playthrough sprinkled inThe same happens in 4. doing an "Evil" character in 4 is insanely strange and is writen so poorly that your character even puts on a different voice when you go down a "evil" route for a quest. Worst part is the whole Nuka World DLC. Bethesda just sucks ass when it comes to writing.
>>730634781I'm pretty sure fallout 3 was originally going to be set much earlier in the post-war timeline.
>>730634543>>730634686I don't buy the excuse of him being some kind of moderate when the whole plot just happens due to him comically backstabbing everyone while shooting himself in his own foot the whole game.
>>730633312shit happens
>>730634202You better not be shit talking fucking Star Wars you pleb.
>>730634686The set up relly did seem like it was going to let you side with the Enclave, either by following the President's order and poisoning Project Purity, or by going along with Autumn and giving the Enclave control of the water pump, but it just never pan out that way
>>730635726I agree. I am not saying that he is a well written character, only that there are a some crumbs of a good character or the potential but in typical Bethesda fashion they refuse to develop any character past surface level.
Bethesda has never made a good Fallout game
>>730635773t. Rick Berman
>>730623324Revelation 21:6 isn't about literal drinking water from a fountain.>>730633078Dad suicide bombs the project with giga radiation because Enclave wanted to give water away and rebuild america™ as per Col Autumn's will, which is completely different from BoS Begrudgingly giving the water away to the same wastelanders.>>730633468The only one who wanted to poison the water was the evil ass computor, president sneeden.
>>730636209Fallout 4 is a good game, goos Bethesda game even, but a bad Fallout.
>>730635983No point developing enemy factions because you can't join themt. bethesda
>>730635971The fact that all siding with the enclave in 3 entails is a single, unvoiced textbox and making the purified water undrinkable solely for the player, no acknowledgement that the water is tainted for literally anyone else whatsoever, while you still get praised as a hero by the bos is fucking mindboogling to me. Its like it was a choice that was very quietly slipped in by a rogue dev that didnt want anyone finding out
I actually don't understand why FO3 is so hamfisted with the revelation 21:3 thing and Christ imagery. Especially how irrelevant they are for the rest of the actual game. Any religious depictions you see aren't really Christian at all and they're all corny as hell. It just made me wonder if Todd had some unsolved issues from childhood sunday schools
>>730636620cry about it
>>730637270>Rivet shitty has a church that collects donations and people sit in pews sometimes>church of le atom xD>Bible verse is about giving water to hobos.
>>730636620>wanted to give water away and rebuild americaI find it funny how many people keep forgetting that the America that Autumn and the Enclave are talking about is the Powered Armor Police State that got the world nuked in the first place, not the actual US. The only difference in the ending is which Powered Armored group of soldiers run a water purifier.
>>730637782BoS kill mutants onsight too so functionally they're just as much fascist as the enclave. It's just todd wanking is mary sue faction.>>730637735There's also harold's cult which is just about as nuanced as the church of atom. I really don't understand why fo3 is so heavy with the religion and all when it's so flat about it
>>730637270It's just Emil wanting the hero to be a Chosen One type like all his Elder Scrolls (and even Starfield) pcs, but since Fallout is based on "reality" he has to force the protag into being a Jesus Figure to compensate.
>>730637270Hopefully it means the mormons and their orbiter tribes will be spared Todd's wrath
>>730638015BoS' aren't Fascist, their Feudalists.
>>730637782>the designated good guys in power armor who are former US army use a robot that throws nukes around like footballs in order to remove the amount of mouths that need water to begin with.>Supermutants (all but 2 are evil, no reasoning possible), feral and evil ghouls, slavers, raiders™ outnumber normal people by a factor of at least 5:1>the designated bad guys in power armor are former US government who want to rebuild a police state with picket fences and baseball? Because their military commander takes propaganda broadcasts spat out by retarded ZAX AI supercomputer seriously, while the computer wants to genocide wasteland because it just does.F3 writing is palpably atrocious.
>>730633078YES
Have any of you guys seen my father? Middle aged guy, brown hair.
>>730638271so this is the kind of writer you come from experiencing childhood abuse
>>730638015>>730638130Fascism doesn't mean "Is competently and systematically mean to a minority group" btw.Nobody in F3 has anything even resembling an ideology worth discussing.>BoS are good guys because they let threenigger speak on the radio while killing the mutants outside?>Sneedclave are evil because uhhhh, they are killing mutants, and mutants includes you, the player>>730638392Biological father or stepfather? Is you mixed race, nigguh?
>>730618105>>730618241>>730619959Shit Vegays Troon once agains do not understand the meaning of sacrifice! The Lone Wonderer is a Holy Man who can killed over 10,000 demonic mutants in a single battle! He is the messiah of the wasteland destined to sacrifice himself to destroy all mutant demons and radiation forrest of time! So he must sacrifice himself to bring down this evil and turn “The hell on Earth into a Paradise!” then he rises again in Broken Steel! Chadout 3 is literally the Bible in video game form!
>>730628438You can do all those thing sure but your heroic sacrifice to introduce the purifying virus to turn the hell on earth into a paradise is enough to cleanse you of your sins.
>>730637270That was definitely all Emil, not Todd.
>>730630405The LW is Jesus!
It's baffling they didn't see this obvious plot hole coming. All they had to do was set up a situation where only your player character alone was allowed into the purifier room at the time.
>>730637270>game has strong Christian themes>like drugging a guy who wants to be a priest so a girl can rape him
>>730634781Your acting like most RPGS aren’t like this for example in NWN there’s a lot of random evil options you can do in the process of trying to save the world.
