>so retro is good then
>my childhood fuck off
Make up your mind schizo.

why do newfags use hyperbole like "insane" "seething" "obsessed" "cope" "crying", poisoning any possible discussion with this hostility?

>>730625951
Because 4chan developed a culture where being a bitter cynical contrarian with one-liners wracks up the most (You)s. You have nobody to blame but yourself.

>>730625951
They're not interested in having a discussion.

>>730625818
>chink manlet shitposting

>>730625951
Because it got too normal for retards to get unbearably assmad at other people and project that instead of realizing they're being silly

>>730625818
>Why do Zoomers
An obese millennial faggot made that meme

>>730625951
>>730625994
>>730626881
Is it bad? Honestly I prefer it over the forced positivity shit you’d find elsewhere. Least you can criticize things without being persecuted for not worshiping corporations

i disregard all posts with soijak party bullshit.
fuck you. make a real gaming thread

>>730627079
I don't like forced positivity either but surely there's a middle ground where people can have discussions without being disingenuous.
I like being able to argue things so we can all reach some kind of consensus or universal truth but that becomes impossible once someone just replies with "cope" or "seething". At that point I just have to assume that I'm correct, because if I wasn't surely the other person would've put forth a proper argument, and that kind of takes the fun out of it.

hating remakes so much is just autism
can't handle literally anything being different
even if it's 99% improvement you screenshot one thing you liked better in old version and seethe

Seems like lately they've taken the advice and started playing more 'retro' games. Hey, good on them. There's years of great games available to them with less bullshit thanks to better emulation and general options like save states.

>>730627374
Remakes often aren't even the same game though. Like potentially sifferent genres even.

Older games generally have a higher learning curve which inherently makes them less accessible to people with a low level of tolerance for frustration and of low levels of skill.

People raised on games produced after the normalization of the hobby, and casuals who barely play videogames beyond treating them as a means to socialize, are used to games with low learning curves that bend over backwards to make themselves as retard proof as possible and don't require much in the ways of experimentation, practice or critical thinking.

This leads them to find older games extremely difficult to play, much less become proficient at, and they cope by calling it janky or poorly aged. By comparison, core gamers and people were who raised on these older games are used to this and don't find it nearly as intimidating or difficult to master, so they don't see the things the newer gamers/casuals are complaining about as flaws.

Think of someone playing Deus Ex for the first time, having to get used to the way aiming works, the way you have to take down enemies in stealth by attacking them directly instead of a canned animation, the inability to track enemies through walls, cameras being hidden in corners away from obvious sight, the fact that because your skills influence how you damage enemies so a baton to the back of an unaware head might not even bring them down, but prodding with the prod twice will, all of those little things. To someone raised on stuff like The Last of Us or whatever, this is a living nightmare. To someone raised on games like that, or who plays a wider variety of games at a hobbyist level, it's just a videogame.

>>730625818
Because zoomers are nigger lovers

>>730625951
It's a zoomer thing
>___ is WILD/CRAZY/INSANE

>>730625818
Demakes and cheap ports are mainly for consolecucks that either don't want to fish out their old cuck box,didn't keep it or want to play it on something newer. Turns out locking games to specific hardware isn't good in the longrun.

>>730625818
I worked with one of them - from what I could gather it was because a lot of them have been raised by a generation of YouTube shitters that opted for MUH RETRO COLLECTING AUTHENTICITY as a personality, and now there’s 19 year olds saying they “want to experience the game on original hardware” whilst shelling out hundreds for Conker’s Bad Fur Day and an N64. Funny how it’s never Goldeneye though.

These are also the same kids that consoom Pokemon cards too.

I feel for them though. Their childhoods were so devoid of SOVL that they’ve been swindled into buying shitty CRTs from Facebook marketplace in an attempt to experience “the good ol’ days”

>>730629712
That's categorically not true.
The reason new games are easier to learn is because a lot of the elements of the game - UI, controls, mechanics, are so ubiquitous and standardized these days that you can pick most games up and your existing experience carries you. If you play an old game, often you'll find controls and solutions that fit no mold and require you to learn about them individually.
The reason people find it difficult to get into old games is the same reason as to why they only play one genre, or even one game entirely. It's different and unfamiliar.

I guarantee you that if you take somebody who's never ever played a game before, he'll probably have an easier time figuring out something you'd consider old and esoteric rather than the incomprehensible information overload you get in for example a modern Call of Duty game. There's such a big difference between a conditioned gamer brain and a fresh, unsullied one that it can flip the entire learning experience on its head.

Of course, one button takedowns are easier than sneaking up and manually striking the guy, but a separate button for stealth killing is fundamentally illogical. The obvious, contextless action would be to just use the controls you've already learned; hold W up to the guy and click on his head to knock his lights out.
There's a disconnect between the expectation and tactile experience for a player when you introduce assistance mechanics and simplify the gameplay. It really doesn't need to be this way and I think it's all a completely misguided concept of "UX" that plagues game development due to big corporate meddling and academia.

>no one points out this thread is a screenshot of an instagram post
thanks jannies glad we pay you 6 figures

>>730625818
There are shitty remasters but it’s overblown how bad remasters are on average. Even MCC is a completely fine way to experience the Halo series, one of the only remasters I’d say is genuinely abysmal and to avoid like the plague is that shitty Silent Hill HD collection that Konami put out.

>>730627296
How is entering the thread and posting in it "disregarding" it

>>730625818
there are people who will only go back and play old games if remade or remastered, and not others no matter how much they are likely to enjoy them. saw this alot with MGS3 Delta. many played this as their first mgs and loved it but refuse to go play mgs1, 2 or even 4