Can they reach it?
>>7306259232 more yearsthe fag parade was cringe though
>>730625923Shitter cap
>>730625923>What does Dragon Quest XII need to do to hit 10+ million copies sold?Have cunny
>>730625923ATB combat
>>730625923nuFF btfo again.
>>730625923Add more dating sim elements.
>>730625923It needs this
>>730626761it doesnt even have ANY
Literally just have Nintendo publish it I guess. That's how 9 sold well as well. 8 did well because I think it was included as a demo in some FF game.
>>730626838>8 did well because I think it was included as a demo in some FF game.Other way around, it did well because it had the FF demo
>>730625923>What does Dragon Quest XII need to do to hit 10+ million copies sold? Exist. Where is the fucking game at?
>>730625923>What does Dragon Quest XII need to do to hit 10+ million copies sold?Sell another million copies
>>730625923how about more than 4 music tracks? or how about jp voice acting? or how about writing that isn't retarded?There are loads of places to improve, frankly. DQ is deliberately dragging its heels in all sorts of areas
>>730625923A permanent price decrease and a switch 2 free performance upgrade would probably move another million.
>>730625923if they weren't assholes that delisted the original game on steam and charge full price for the """new""" version they'd already be there. I'm not paying for it again without a discount for buying it the first time.
>>730626815A few of them let you get married, but its never a big element.
>>730625923They should make it a blobber
5>>>>4>>>>6>>>>>8>>>>trash>>>>>7didnt play the rest
>>730626979When was the last time anyone besides indies or lesser dev studios like Compile Shart made one?
>>730625923>almost a decade old>barely sold a million per yeargo woke go broke
>>730625923A good marketing campaign. That's literally all a game ever needs for it to be successful
>>7306268832/3 of the team died during production and several people in SE are trying to grab it for themselves.Including Yoshi P, but not including Nomura or Kitase.The Gooch himself may have his eye on it as his return to Square and so they can have a legacy name attached to it after losing 2.Don't believe me, this is all fiction.
>>730625923That says just the S edition, so add in the original and it probably did hit 10 millionI think if the next game wants to hit the same milestone though they're gonna need to up the sex appeal, people are becoming less tolerant of games lacking itI say they should bring back fleurette from swords
>>730625923make it turn-based and have random encounters again.and have a party member very very big boobs.
>>730626645FF7R hit 10 million years ago. With no switch port.
>>730627137>The Gooch himself may have his eye on it as his return to SquareBig if true
>>730627095That's exactly why they should do it, free marketing out the ass and normies have no clue what those games are like and would buy it out of curiosity
>>730627206It still hasn't hit 8 million since they last updated 3 years ago.
>>730627147They would not report a lesser number if they have a higher one available by combining editions. You can be sure this figure includes all releases, even the 3ds one.
>>730626882Ah yeah that was it
>>730626956I would greatly appreciate some more musicI didn't think the music in XI was bad like many others did but it was 2017, not 1989 the game could afford to have more than than one or two track for all the towns
>>730625923Why can't modern Final Fantasy sell these numbers?
>>730627767Because they refuse to make a game people actually want for some reason and haven't since 2001
>>730627767XV sold 10 million. XVI has only been out for like 2 years
>>730627201>Turn basedYes agreed>Random encountersI like them when they're handled well but they're normie repellent. I just want more aggressive field enemies like DQ9 had.>A party member with very big boobsHard agree.
>>730628235XV sold like 8mill of those in its first year anon. >XVI has only been out for like 2 yearsWhich were reportedly sold 3.5mill unit as of March 2025...
>>730628251>enemies on on the field encountersyeah what bothers me the most about these in EVERY GAME is that even if you're under-leveled, you're allowed to get past encounters too easily.that should be a reward once you're strong and come back later and enemies in that area stop chasing you.
Dragon Quest died when Akira Toriyama died. Its depressing I know, but its true. He carried the franchise with his iconic art. Everyone else was replaceable. Shit sucks but this series is dead in the water now.
>>730627767>playstation exclusive>no consistent brand identity>15 years of divisive gamesSuch a mystery. Seriously, whats the onboard for people under 25 for Final Fantasy? Your options are>play the 25+ year old games, which if your into you probably aren't into the new shit>the mmo, which is an mmo>XVI, which gets blown out by any competent action game AND Kingdom Hearts>the FF7 Remakes, which are going to feel like a bloated fever dream to anyone who hasn't already played FF7>XV, which is 10 years old and a messHere's what the onboard for Dragon Quest is>Play XI, its on everything, its got a high budget and everyone agrees its good.
>>730628735its so fucked up the dq7 remake is using the god awful fake dq5 movie as a reference instead of official toriyama art
>>730627767Because their games don't run on 3ds and shitch. Just like persoyna 5 has inflated numbers by launching on ps3.>>730627834None of you retards bought fantasian.
>>730627767No turnBASED= no buy. Same reason DQ3HD outsold Rebirth.
>>730628735I'm the biggest Toriyama simp but he is wholly replicable because he essentially was already. Dude was such an anti-workaholic he really only did the core character designs and cover art. He has a legion of ghost artists who handle stuff like secondary characters and the monsters. Would you know he didn't draw pic related unless I told you?
>>730628735any real DQ fan knows the franchise is dead when Horii is>>730628840it isn't, why the fuck is anyone saying this. 7 was during Toriyama's weird post DB phase, get your eyes checked it you think it looks like Your Story at all.
>>730628735>feed all of his work to an AI>have AI take his place
>>730629154You're brown
>>730629090The REAL DQ fans already left long ago when Nakamura did
>>730625923this was the only DQ I played and I liked it. which other ones should I play in 2026? preferably not outdated ones that will get remakes soon.
>>730629431Just start with 1 and go from there
>>730625923I'm still mad at them for releasing an objectively better version exclusivly for the Switch so I bought hte base version only for them to fucking later release S outside of the Switch anyway after I'd already beaten the base version and had no motivation to replay it again to see all the improvements.
>>730629495this version of 1 alrihgt?
>>730628878>None of you retards bought fantasian.Cause it's a literal mobile game port.
>>730627767Dragon Quest has been pretty consistently good over it's life. Final Fantasy hasn't been able to maintain any quality since the merger.
>>730628878>None of you retards bought fantasian.why would i buy a shitty mobile game
>>730629550I didn't play it myself but yeah most likely
>DragonQuest has finally surpassed FFAbout damn time. Turn-Based is based, and XI mogs every FF game after X so damn hard that it's unreal. VII Remake and XVI will NEVER reach DQXI numbers. It is a true JRPG with proper sidequests instead of the lame mini-games VII Rebirth had nor the shit sidequests that XVI had.>>730627137The Gooch has worked closely with Horii and was a good friend of Toriyama. He understands Dragon Quest and steer it to the right direction. Yoshi-P would ruin it.
>>730628964I already knew that he had several people trained to draw like him. The aspects of Toriyama's art that's difficult to copy aren't his designs. It's panelling, composition and choreography. The guy was a master mangaka. Most DB fans don't know that sonce they can't read. His students have it easy because they don't have to make manga. Just make appealing designs that look Toriyama-esque.
>>730629550Yeah, unless you have a huge boner for retro games. DQ1 is such a progenitor to the genre that it can be rough to play the original if you aren't used to stuff from that era.
>>730625923Either fix the graphics to match or exceed the original release (the downgraded everything for the new edition for Switch release, and just used those same downgraded assets on all other platforms rather than re-upgrading after), or made the 3DS version (3D models, not the 2D) also available since it looks better than the main version anyway.
>>730630039>Either fix the graphics to match or exceed the original release (the downgraded everything for the new edition for Switch releasethere has to be comparison images for this, yeah? I've seen anonymous posts claim it, but every source I see lists improvements but never this.
It’s always for sale on Switch, just include a 4K 60fps update and they’ll hit it
>>730625923needs to be a better game. less time wasting filler content.DQXI may have QoL improvements over prior games, but it was just as bad as most of the series with its filler content.Only DQ3, and DQ5 felt like fully fleshed out games. (DQ4 comes close)(and no, hallway level/campaign design, like in 11, doesnt count as removal of filler either. 11 was filled with filler, AND had the problem of being a hallway game.)
Even (You) can make your own toriyama character deisgns tbqh
>>730628945>No turnBASED= no buy.I still remember how the SEshills called fans of the unfathomably based turnBASED "grandpas" and "old men" during the pre-release threads for XVI and Rebirth. In reality, only late-millennials gave a shit about XVI and VIIR. Meanwhile, boomers, the younger millennials and zoomers just want turnBASED kino with a fun party, good post-game and side content and a sense of adventure like the PS1 and PS2 FFs. Nobody was asking for fucking DMC FF outside of the 5 loud people who haven't moved on from Versus XIII.
I'm a newfag to the series (just started 11 a few days ago), but does anyone have that gif (or webm, can't remember which) of a girl rubbing two slimes against the head of another girl?I would very much like it, for reasons.
>>730629734>hollowed and and made into an onahole by "300k copies sold on steam" Digimon
Last time they tried to make mainline DQ action based led to death threats, mass preorder cancels, level-5 almost shutting down, and an entire game being reworked to completely redo the gameplay
>>730629550It's a VERY different game from the original and the HD-2D games are weird in that they expect you to play them chronologically (3-1-2) instead of in original release order. That's one of the reasons 3 HD 2D came out first. I still really liked it but that was mostly because of how much they expanded it from the original.
>>730630107I don't have it on hand, but it's because they couldn't get it working on UE4 for the Switch.So they redid everything on UE5 for the Switch version with all the additions, but without the old UE4 assets.People who try to bring in the old UE4 stuff find that there's issues they have to do extra work to get working correctly (models having weird collision issues and such).Guess Square didn't see the value in putting in extra work to get it working with better assets with the new edition.It's why some saying "just put FF7R part 3 on UE5" is not actually a good idea, because it's not just a simple switch.Sorry don't have images myself, but can find youtube videos showing comparisons.
At the end of the day, people really don't care about censored shit eh. Guess it's really over
>>730630434DQ11 is still UE4, UE5 wasn’t a thing back then.
>>730630439it's 2026 grandpa, when you want to jack off to a bunnygirl or whatever just google it
>>730630434How could XI S use Unreal Engine 5 when it came out in 2019? Do you mean Unreal 3 to 4 or something?
>>730630421i knew it was bad from metaphor outselling rebirth on steam but i didn't realize how dire it really was
>>730630564They're mixing things up.DQ12 is apparently going to be UE5.DQ11 S wasn't possible for Switch until version 4.16 of UE4 for reasons I don't know.
>>730630308>forcing the 'muh zoomzooms love turn-based games actually' narrativeOkay, retard. I'm gonna be laughing my ass off when all the inevitable E33 copycats underperform because zoomoids have the attention span of a fruit fly and wouldn't touch a jrpg to save their lives if they weren't instructed to by the media.
>>730630564No way xi s came out in 2019whoa it didWow my mind is scrambled
>>730629734>>730630421I just checked Steam. FFVIIR is Silver, and Digimon is gold. Digimon beat FF. E33 is gold too. Turn-Based always wins. Get that through your thick skulls.
>>730630776UE has never been designed with Nintendo in mind directly so while you can make games on Switch with UE4 or Switch 2 with UE5 you are better off waiting for a later build of the engine that has optimizations for the system
>>730629550It is, but the HD versions of 1 and 2 especially are not replacements for the originals - they're just straight up different games despite having the same overall premise for both. Different plot points get introduced, and in the case of DQ1 the game is balanced very differently and noticeably much more difficult in the HD remake than the original, to such a degree that I saw people getting totally filtered by it. The original DQ1 is very short, you could feasibly beat it in a day, maybe two. DQ2's a bit longer but I'd also recommend one of the older versions of that one as well as the HD versions of 1 and 2, not either or, both.
>>730630784>wouldn't touch a jrpg to save their lives if they weren't instructed to by the media.Explain Digimon Story and DragonQuest doing well.
>>730628840>its so fucked up the dq7 remake is using the god awful fake dq5 movie as a reference instead of official toriyama art???Dude, besides eye color changes and censorship the character designs are basically 1:1 translations of the Toriyama artwork, tit for tat, into 3D. They're just using doll-like realistic shading rather than cel-shading.
>>730630564DQ11 OG was an earlier version of UE4.DQ11 S is a later version, but abandoned better lighting solutions and had lower quality models and textures. The lighting is ESPECIALLY noticeable.Also less dense foliage.Wouldn't be a big deal, but they took down the ability to buy the original version now. Only people who already bought it can play it.
>>730625923>easy turn based jrpg>but kinoHow’d they do it?
>>730630967Can the new version be modded to at least somewhat resemble the original release? I dealt with it on Switch when I played through it and had fun, but I'd like to make it look as nice as possible on a replay down the line.
>>730630998That describes every DQ.
>>730630873Mine went by all time sellers which is what his used. If you goto 2024 new sellers Metaphor is Silver.
>>730631039>Can the new version be modded to at least somewhat resemble the original releaseYes , there's plenty of graphical mods
>>730631039No, it’s pretty much impossible to replace what’s there, and DQ does not have a modding scene at all since majority of them are on Nintendo anyway
>>730631039There are some mods that attempt to (Project Rebuild), and you can get a lot (not all) of the models on par and you can mess with settings to get grass density up.I don't think anyone managed to get the lighting the same though. Just some Reshade stuff.
>>730625923release the fucking 3ds version
>>730630421>and andRebirth is the only one without denuvo you mentally ill retard. It's getting a sequel before metalfop and dqshit does.
What’s scary is the 3DS version is still the second best selling version of DQ11 after the Switch version of 11S
>>730631152Rebirth didn't have denuvo because it flopped and Denuvo is expensive, retard. Lmao even DQ7 Remake is getting Denuvo.
>>730631152>>730631218Denuvo is generally removed on most games after a 6-12 months after the initial sales, else they have to keep paying for Denuvo.A big reason why cracking it isn't as prominent as it used to be. Not as much benefit for all the effort when it's just going to be removed in a number of months regardless, when it used to always be worth it since it used to be permanent before their sales model change.
>>730631152>It's getting a sequel before metalfopAtlus takes a decade to make a sequel regardless of success.>dqshitSomeone's having a melty! Even the HD2D DQ Remakes beat those FF numbers. Sad! Post DQIII Remake sales figures, coward.
Why is DQ so unpopular in the West?>US only made it to 100k sellthrough in 2 weeks, and all EMEA is less than thathttps://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/dragon-quest-iii-hd-2d-remake-has-sold-more-than-2-million.3274/page-2
>>730627690yeah music is more important for JRPGs than most. it's not good to have such a limited tracklist over such a long runtime. hearing the same tune for 100 hours straight is really not ok
>faglus>successgetting bought out by a dogshit company is success kek
>>730631142I'm taking a look at Project Rebuild and this seems right up my alley, awesome. I also saw a mod that brings back the Japanese styled menus which is super cool. I don't mind the ones newer DQ games have been using in the west, but I've always been a big fan of black boxes, white outlines in a lot of RPGs. Battle screen for something like Wizardry's PS1 ports? Fantastic, love the simple look.
>>730627767hasn't 15 sold more than this?
>>730631387Rebirth didn't even launch with Denuvo because of how poorly it sold on PS. Even XVI launched with Denuvo and they said that didn't meet expectations.
>>730631515XV was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was so shit that it turned potential fans away from FF for good.
>>730631439in japan there's a large contingent of boomers who were hooked from the first game. But they didn't bother releasing the games in the west in a timely manner, so there are no equivalent hooked boomers who will buy every game on day 1 in the westthis is what it looks like when DQ has to compete on its own merits rather than coasting on nostalgia
>>730631462You should post those Rebirth numbers to really rub it in. SE has been announcing all kinds of games hitting sales milestones lately. You should be able to find one.
>>730631439Because they're bad games, DQ3 is absolutely trash compared to 99.999999% of JRPGs released today. Even Compile Heart trash is better than early DQ if you actually look at them critically. The only bonus they have is nostalgia which the west simply does not have.
>>730631586which is odd because Rebirth on PC sold more than 16 on PC (but opposite happened on PS, with 16 outselling Rebirth on PS)I'm very curious on why that is, but it'd all be guesswork on my part.
>>730628735Shut the fuck up and kill yourself you brain dead retarded doomer faggot. You don't know what you're talking about. DQ is still doing great and the people at Square Enix will carry on Toriyama's legacy and they will do it well.
>>730628735you better hope they had toriyama in the mines before his death making character designs for the next 10 games in advance
>>730631865Close but XVI has slightly more. If I remember right, XVI also launched with the LGBTQ+ tag which caused it to be filtered by a lot of users. Rebirth could have had it too, but I don't remember seeing anything about it.https://gamalytic.com/game/2909400https://gamalytic.com/game/2515020
>>730631703what's got you so mad, boy
>>730631462Putting stellar blade and metaphor side by side really shows how much more beautiful and kino metaphor is. Jap niggas are built different, their games and art are far better than western and gook shitFuck you and fuck your shitpost faggot, kill yourself
>>730631865Source? SE usually doesn't do per-platforn breakdowns. They just announce milestones.
>>730632009If you think I'm mad it's because you're projecting and I've hit closer to home than you'd care to admit>t.love DQ11 and looking forward to the DQ7 remake
where is it
>>730631703You deserve to have your head smashed in with a spiked bat and have your brains be fed to dogs you retarded idiotDQ3 is peak
>>730631998I'll have to find it again when I have a moment, but that's literally the only source that claims they're close. Everywhere else shows Rebirth being quite a lot over 16 on PC in terms of sales.Unless the last Steam sale drastically changed things, I haven't looked since November last year.
>>730632065dq games shouldn't take this long dude, what the fuck
>>730632063NTA but kek you are a fucking retard, you don't like dragon quest at all, you're just a retard false flagging and regurigating e celeb opinions. Claiming to love DQ 11 yet shitting on DQ 3 is a retardedly stupid thing to do. You're not a fan, just a shitposter. Kill yourself you brain dead idiot.
>>730632049Not from Square themselves, sites that shows Steam owners. I'll search it out later when I can spare, sorry
>>730632183Most estimates use review counts as part of their metric and XVI has slightly more reviews too. I would take Gamalytic with a grain of salt too because it puts both ahead of Digimon which is ranked higher than both on all time sellers.
>>730632205I'm starting to think they want to do everything but make 12 because they have no idea how to do something new OR one-up 11.
>>730632095>>730632271You prove my point so elegantly I couldn't have done it myself any better even if I samefagged.
DQB3 when?
>>730632316shouldn't it have been in development for a decade already? it should be out any day now
>>730630909Interestingt. played the SNES versions of 1 2 and 3 but didn't play the remakes yet
>>730632065Square has a severe project management problem.Say all you want about Yoshi-P, and you'd be correct to say that he's creatively bankrupt, but in terms of project management he's actually able to keep things mostly on-time and within budget.Square projects are almost always wildly out-of-control in terms of completion time
>>730632316I fear the DQ team is going to see DQ11 as its own Those Once Loyal - an excellent release that they have no idea how to follow up on because they feel they can't do better.
>>730632315Ah, I wasn't aware of the review metric. That would make sense
>>730625923thats pretty impressive actually
>>73063151510 Million sales is good on paper, but you have to keep in mind that's after a 10 year development cycle, hundreds of millions of dollars in development and marketing, and multiple sponsorships. 10 Million was the bare minimum of what they had to make to make all that worth it. And even though it had a strong launch, it fell off hard. A game that sells 10 Million doesn't *just* get a bunch of future DLC cancelled.So yes, 10 Million sales is nothing to scoff at. But other games in the franchise have sold just as much while needing a lot less effort. I wager if it had the marketing budget of other non-VII games it'd have sold 6 million at best, 3 million at worst.Though none of this actually matters because some shitty FFXV mobile game managed to bring in ONE BILLION in revenue for some fucking reason, and since it has FFXV's name on it I guess it counts
>>730632023metaflop got its' royal edition cancelled kek. stellar slop is getting a sequel atleast.
May victory smile upon you, Great Hero of Aliahan
>>730632421I will say that DQ3's remake plays it a bit safer and mostly just adds onto the SFC remake. You get a new class, some new fights that are noticeably harder than the old stuff to the degree that I think the hardest fight in the base game is before Baramos is fought even, and you get a bit more story as well as the game adding more to Ortega's backstory which I thought was really nice. It's DQ1 and 2 that like to play with the formula way more. I absolutely loved how the descendants in DQ2 are characterized in the remake. They feel like good heroes, but they're still clearly kids/young teens thrown into something that's far bigger than they really realize for quite awhile. Ended up being my personal GOTY last year.
>>730632515People also have to look at the profits brought in from when games get bought on sales. Which no sales charts are ever generally gonna tell you. FFXV, especially Royal Edition or the PC Edition (still gutted and abandoned with memory leaks by the way), dropped its price pretty quickly and the vast majority of those sales are at substantial price reductions.
>>730632541Still waiting on those Rebirth sales. In the meantime SE has announced yet another game reaching a new milestone.
Ps6 launch title with an isometric version that launches on switch 2, both versions playable on PC
>>73063243411 would have been a good end to the series honestly. Really felt like it honestly. Both sugiyama and toriyama dying acceuntues it more. A number of stakeholders would probably no have been pleased with that however. The show must go on
>>730631703i disagree about nostalgia.i played DQ11, hated it.ppl told me to try older games, tried 1-9hated 12, 6, 7, 8 and 9.tolerated (barely) 4.5 was technically bad, but somehow charmed me enough to finish it.but 3 was so damn impressive. (started off weak, almost quit at the start) but its one of the few games to really keep my attention as well as it did. and it wasnt nostalgia, because i only played these games like 2 years ago for the 1st time.most newer games suck imo. terrible pacing, and too much dragged out tedious content.plus random encounters in 3 were probably the best ive ever seen done in an RPG.you dont play a tedious QTE event that drags fights out, you dont play a 10min puzzle to drag out random encounters, you dont just mash attack like final fantasy.but you still win fights quickly, because its all about picking which target has highest priority of killing first, so you have the least amount of damage taken by the end of the dungeon.fights are quick, simple, and still require you think, depending on the set up of the enemies.an enemy you normally prioritize, might not be prioritized, if theres 3 of them. etc. it was all about the kill order. and the group composition of enemies was always changing, so theres like 20+ different combinations making u change tactics on kill order.
Chrono trigger remaster demo included
>>730632693"the show must go on" and yet they're willing to let a decade go by without a new game
>>730632601Oh yeah, I'm assuming since they're actual characters they have party chat now right? I just remembered
>>730632337>no argumentI won. You lost. You're a retarded nigger.
>>730632640They'll announce it hit 1 million right alongside Foam Stars any day now.
>>730632759It doesn't have party chat weirdly enough. The game just has good cutscenes where they get a decent amount of dialogue. I also really liked the Japanese performances too. I assume the English ones are probably fine.
How is DQVII remake?
>>730632915play the demo, it's already playable on steam
>>730626815And? More than zero means adding literally anything.
FF fans are the most subhuman fuckers on the planet.Thread's about DQ, and they always got to make it about FF.FF7 OG was shit as well as Rebirth, you can all shut up.
>>730628945>>730627767Has nothing to do with being turn based or not. It has to do with them making a "good game" As generic as it sounds. Many other games has proved that both turn based/action games with much lower budgets can sell tons, but square enix is completely obsessed with making the most streamlined sloppiest experience you could ever hope for for final fantasy. It is like they think that every final fantasy player is either a braindead toddler or a granny first gaming experience
>>730626815dqv showed people like it in dq, they should just lean in harder to that
>play DQ11 on normal mode>everyone moves immediately after selecting move>play dq11 on pixel mode>I make everyone's selection before they moveIs this a bug or is the combat supposed to be wildly different by turning on pixel mode?
>>730633005FF was mentioned 5 posts in you mentally ill retard. >>730626645
>>730632915Censored, Sanitized, Streamlined, SterilizedYou'll love it. Preorder the deluxe edition now and you get to play it 2 days early!
>>730632706>i played DQ11, hated it.>ppl told me to try older games, tried 1-9>hated 12, 6, 7, 8 and 9.>tolerated (barely) 4.Your taste is fucking garbage, you should feel bad and consider suicide.Scratch that, don't consider suicide, just do it.
>>730633029It's intentional, it's more like the old games in how it handles combat in 2D mode. I assume that's why changing it from 2D to 3D or the other way around resets progress to the beginning of that chapter, it's just a different game at that point. You can also abuse that to farm chests I'm pretty sure, but I don't see a point in doing that desu.
>>730625923Funny enough I finally bought it just over the holidays
>>730633075>mention that FF fans always have to insert themselves in non-FF threads>reply showing proof they did it incredibly earlyNo shit you mental giant? Thanks for proving the point Kameel.
>>730632706I only played VIII but hated everything about the game except the twintails girl.Maybe I wouldn't have minded the soundtrack so much if I wasn't playing the european 3DS version, but honestly the game is just so bland I would have dropped it anyway.
>>730633029Yeah with pixel it plays like majority of the series where you pick everyone moves then battle starts
>>730633084terminal case of bad taste
>>730633075are you retarded?
>>730630909>noticeably much more difficult in the HD remake than the originalHow so? The original was just 10-12 hours of grinding followed by the final boss.Genuinely curious. Never played any of the ports/remakes. I know the GBC port cut down the grinding by like 70%, but that's all I know.
>>730633229Yeah, that's what I just said. You have terrible taste, you're not even human, you're a subhuman animal parading as one. You are a devil and a demon. Kill yourself retard
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I like how in Dragon Quest you can actually land debuffs on bosses and they actually do something worthwhile, most RPGs all bosses are immune to just about everything and even if you land a debuff on them it does fuck all. In Dragon Quest conversely if you like Dazzle on an enemy they'll whiff like half their attacks, bosses included.
>>730625923Been playing the remakes of the first 3 and DQ3 was great, DQ1 was a bit frustrating but fine overall, and currently going through DQ2 with it right now being my favorite of the 3.
guys i did everything in the game. I'm stuck on timewyrm. i have stronger monsters enabled and he's fucking me every time idk if I can do this i might disable stronger monsters
The definitive edition being a switch port made me seethe, no "seamless" 2D-3D switch as advertised, downgraded graphics, looks like shit on the PS5 because of that. I would return it if I could. Fuck this game.
12s woes are due to them starting over multiple times due to Hori not liking the stories they came up with and him paying attention to changes to taste in Japan with Zelda getting big there finally.
>>730633439The 2 remake is far above the other two HD-2D remakes, and I thought 3 was fantastic. Beat 2 just a few weeks ago, and beat the other two before it.
>>730633274>>730633157>the schizo who seethes at FF in every SE thread is a FF fan kill yourself mentally ill retard.
>>730625923Be available on both Switch and Switch 2 on launch which will probably fuck the game. Never forget the PS4 has the most visually impressive version of DQXI while every other platform got an updated version of the Switch port.>inb4 “he cares about gwaphix”It’s the principle of not getting a shittier version of something simply because of one fucking decade old platform
>>730633291For one, fights are no longer 1 on 1, it's 1 on whole parties of monsters. A lot of bosses get upwards of two or three actions per turn while you'll only ever get one (although wearing a duplic hat will give you two spell casts for the cost of one, and Wild Side can give you multiple uses of any action per turn while it's up). Bosses also hit really hard this time around. That being said, most if not all bosses have certain patterns to their game plan if you pay attention, so you can do things like Kaclang if they're buffing up hard, or make judicious use of Cop Out to get some physical reflects off when you know they're going to go for physical moves, although it's always a gamble. I had the Dracolord's second form genuinely one shot me from full health with a crit, as an example until I was like, level 43ish. I overall found the level of strategy required in DQ1 HD to be tons of fun, and DQ2 HD while easier is also very well designed. >>730633410It's most certainly a hold over from Wizardry, which influenced DQ's combat significantly. See a pack of Greater Demons? Tiltowait's too inconsistent to nuke them, so try Mamorlis instead to make them fear you. Status aliments were huge in that game. Hell, you could even just one shot the final boss Werdna if you had a character capable of decapitations.
>>730633628He said nuFF which implies the ones that flopped.
>>730633628You're still in a huff that FF fags got called out?Get over it already. Or make a thread.OG FF7 and Rebirth suck. Cry.
>>730627201This but very very small boobs and we get to see her nipples
>>730633628This is a DQ thread. Not a SE thread.
>>730633829>which implies the ones that flopped.the only recent FF that flopped was SoP. Besides that all the other ones made their budgets back and the directors got promoted.>>730634010tell that to the retard who seethes at FF in every SE thread.
*uses haulellujah, electro-light, critical claim and metal medley*heh, nothing personell
>>730634061SE already cknowledged that XVI and Rebirth flopped.
>>730625923Wasn’t the last news from Horii on XII that shit was fucked for XII development?
>>730634061you appear to be the one seething anon. they pointed out that it's not an ff thread, and you're getting upset that they mentioned that.in any case moving on
>cknowledgeddon't reply to me ranjeesh
>>730634061>seethes>whines that others are seethingKek
>>730634239Everyone is dying
>>730634297Page 2https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/24q4outline.pdf
The old DQ games are just archaic boring shit. I did like 8 and 11 though.
I like the heroes spin offs
>>730634459>but se has unreasonable expectations!DQ3 pulled them out of the FF rut with only 2 million sales.
>>730634717I keep forgetting those cloud versions completely flopped
>>730634297>>730634459>flops>gets promoted>why everyone hate ff now?SE is never beating the retard allegations.
>>730634459Their biggest mistake with XVI was releasing it on PS5 first, a dual ps/pc release would have helped the game's sales tremendously
>>730632205>>730632316>>730632396You're over thinking things, DQ12 was just announced pretty much immediately after it was green-lit because Horii wanted to do a super special stream where they announced a ton of DQ projects for the 35th anniversary. DQ11 was in development for 4 years, so 12 is only taking a bit longer than that as we're going into year 5 after the announcement. Two of DQ's founders also died during development, so that might have caused a bit of delay too.
>What does DQXII need to do to hit 10+ million copies sold?>faggots talk about Final Fantasycan't wait for that series to die.
>>730634832Rebirth made it's budget back on the gacha advertising it.>>730635004Will keep getting games long after you and your family are corpses.
>>730634717Rebirth has the most god awful procedurally generated npcs in an asset pack built world and the whole asset library of Remake to work with. It's budget should have been piss cheap so that it could turn a profit, but somehow they managed to blow over $100 million on it.
>>730635051So what are your thoughts on DQ sales and what they can do to increase them?
>>730635051DQ Walk blows that out in Japan alone. Stop moving the goal posts. Rebirth and XVI flopped.
no wonder everyone hates ff fans
>>730625923Sell more copies, duh.And also upgrade those of us who bought the original PC release like companies that aren't shit do. I might stop pirating SE games on principle if they do that.
>>730633012You can get married in DQ11 too but it's just whatever and people barely talk about it. The reason it's liked so much in DQV is because it's a central part of the story. You get married in the middle, watch your wife give birth, and then the third part is all about adventuring with your kids to rescue your wife. It's a much bigger element which makes it much more memorable.
>>730635118>So what are your thoughts on DQ sales and what they can do to increase them?shit out the same copy pasted formula as always. Nips love eating that slop>>730635179>Rebirth and XVI flopped.yet Rebirth will get a new game before DQ shit.
>>7306295501 Draconian is profoundly obnoxious2 Draconian is a lot of fun. The story and relationships are not as complex as 11, but it's still a good game.
>>730631154Enix devs making that promise to Iwata to bring DQ11 to the Switch is still paying dividends to this very day. https://nintendosoup.com/dragon-quest-xi-s-developers-we-have-finally-fulfilled-our-promise-to-satoru-iwata/
PUFF PUFF
>>730635302>yet Rebirth will get a new game before DQ shit.DQ has had 3 games before part 3 even had a teaser trailer lmao. You are so mad.
Jessica is sexo
>>730629550I've been told they added a TON of stuff. I will say as a long time DQ fan who has not bought it yet, it's the one i was looking forward to the most in the trilogy because the original game was very loosely structured (almost like an open world game) and there's a lot of room TO add stuff.
>>730635302>shit out the same copy pasted formulaEnough about the Remake trilogy.
>>730635302>like game>game 2 comes out>it's more of the same gameWhy would I NOT like this?
>>730635681I’m more of a Medea person
>>730625923Original 11 or 11 S?
>>730636006Which version should I play?
>>730635949It's called fatigue. Look at how yakuzashit is losing relevance after shitting out a new game every 3 months. DQ gets a pass because nips buy it because it says DQ. It also has 0 market outside of Japan.
>>730635978human medea?>>730635978
>>730625923She's had her heart broken 9 million times already.
>>730625923First it has to release. Next it needs to be on the Switch 2 and maybe even the Switch if possible.
>>730635949This.>t. Dynasty Warriors/Trails/Atelier fag
>>730636198That sounds like a you problem.
>>730636198>DQ gets a pass because nips buy it because it says DQInfinity Trash proved that wrong. All the Dai games flopped bigly even in Japan. It was the fumble of the century.
>>730625923I haven't fucked with DQ before. What's the closet DQ to FF5. Bonus points if it's on Steam.
>>730636215Yes
>>730636724Sounds like you want DQ games with vocation systems. 3, 6, 7, and 9
>>730636724Closet to FF5 in my mind are DQ3, DQ6, DQ7, and DQ9.For Steam DQ3 has a remake and DQ7 remake is about to be released.
>>730636312Why does Gemma exist when Serena exists?
Gemma pussy
>>730629965Torishima should rejoin the DB team and fucking guide Toyotaro for a while.
>>730637116why are you looking at serena
>>730636509Dai is a great series. Popp is a fantastic character. It's too bad the game wasn't very good (or too limited in scope)
DQ7R demo was kinda ass. Visuals look very cheap and it lacks the charm of the original and the 3DS remake. The menus are ugly as sin.Also I might remember wrong but did they add those goddess statues in the 3DS remake or in this? Because those things giving you full HP and MP makes the inns and churches in towns pretty much pointless, much like in DQXI. Very much feels too dumbed down.
>>730636974>>730637021Sweet thanks. I feel conflicted about spending $60 on a SE game though. Would you say it's worth it for 3 Remake or should I wait for 7?
>>730637467I forgot to mention that I'm also blind, black, trans and chinese.
>>730626971Japan is so bad about this shit. Meanwhile, indie devs giving away Definitive Edition for free as long as you owned the original game.
>>730637516I would say that the remake of 3 is worth it
OK, I'm only going to want to play ONE of these games. Which one is a must play:DQ XI, DQ VII Reimagined, DQ I and II HD 2D or DQ III HD 2D
>>730638273None of the above. Legacy of Goku 2 is the best Dragon Ball game.
>>730637748Western devs and publishers are pretty bad about it too. See Blood Refreshed Supply, which had a minor LAUNCH discount if you owned the previous port Fresh Supply, and now is $30 regardless even if you owned the old, because WB and Atari are cunts.
>>730638525When will they learn that their actions have consequences!!
>>730633084The point I was making, is that I didnt have nostalgia. It wasnt about if you thought my taste was good or not. But thanks for your blog post i guess... any other feelings u need to share?
>>730638273DQ8 for 3DS
>>730638273>DQ XI, DQ VII Reimagined, DQ I and II HD 2D or DQ III HD 2DI guess the least shit one of those is DQ3, simply because the original is one of the best games ever made.As a general rule, none of the DQ games made after VIII are worth playing. The exception being the japanese only 3DS version of DQXI.
>>730639020>As a general rule, none of the DQ games made after VIII are worth playing. The exception being the japanese only 3DS version of DQXI.I agree about 11 3DS being pretty great, but what's wrong with 9 and HD 11, let alone 11S? I can see not liking 10 due to the MMO aspect but I don't get why you'd rag on the other 2, at least when it comes to brand-new mainline games. I think 11S at least should get some credit for the 2D mode if you like the 3DS version, moreso given it brings the extra content over to that style.
>>730625923well they need to actually release the game
I have this on ds can i play it after ix? or do i need to play them in order? i know ix is standalone
>>730639778for got image lol
>>730639819this too
>>730625923Who does DQ's character designs and art now
>>730626605>Didn't get to keep the amulet that lets her transform from cunny to teen in the S editionFucking Square Enix.
>>730637303>Frieza powers up, beats the shit out of Goku and Vegeta, laughs at them, and leavesTickles my heart that this will forever be the canon ending to the franchise lol.
>>730639778They're all KINDA standalone.1-2-3 are the Erdrick trilogy. 11 too sorta but you're not supposed to know that.4-5-6 are the Zenithia trilogy.7-8-9 are not a trilogy but some people like to pretend they are.10 is an MMO with a free trial and english patch that might be worth checking out.
>>730639020>>730639478What’s so special about Japanese XI?
>>730639901Nobody, i guess. We haven't heard SHIT about DQ12
>>730639778They technically share a universe/"continuity", but it's so minor and so inconsequential that it literally had to be spelled out loosely in bonus content from said DS versions. You're perfectly fine playing either or, though VI is a fair bit of a slow-paced game.
>>730625923DQXI is unironically one of the best JRPGs ever made
>>730636509Dai is a 10/10 classic shonen. All that matters is the anime and manga.
>>730625923>shippedHow many units sold?Shirley being on gamepass isn't counted right?
>>730640149>11 too sorta but you're not supposed to know that.The game warns you if you try to name the MC Erdrick.
DQXII was on the path to being another action slop title until everyone saw turn based is still alive you just have to put some fucking effort into it. You know, like DQXI?I wouldn't trust modern SquareEnix to put any effort into it. I bet it gets made into a HD-2D game like Octopath and it will flop.
>>730625923A better world map theme
>>730625923>What does Dragon Quest XII need to do to hit 10+ million copies sold?Make it a co-op game like DQ9. You can either use the regular protag or create your OC + party with friends and do the entire story mode.Also add secondary quests and online post endgame dungeon content with hard difficulty.
>>730625923Go one a cheaper sale.
>>730628878I'm not playing $30-$50 for an iOS game.
>>730640180That game is cooked beyond belief.
>>730633669Well Playstation is dead as fuck in Japan and 11+11S sold half of the 9 million in Japan alone. I could see them dropping the Switch 1 version if it releases in 2028 or so, but they'll probably lose a million or two by doing that and Square Enix just graduated from 50 IQ to 60 IQ recently so I don't see them dropping it if it releases soon.
>>730640172I dunno about the first anon, but specifically for 3DS, I like its art style a lot, and the way it's closer to the older entries is pretty cool. It actually uses the 2 screens in a pretty cool way, you're basically playing 2 games at once. The top screen is 3D, the bottom screen is 2D, and the maps match up pretty damn well despite the added detail in 3D and the simplified tiles of 2D in stuff like the overworld. Very damn clever conversion of the game that manages to keep the whole of the game pretty intact, to the point you can use your save passwords from the PS4 version (I think the overseas versions got rid of the password system entirely) on it and it all carries over 1:1 if memory serves. I think the Past Words (small callback sidequests based around every single previous entry) were 3DS-exclusives originally, and for the 3DS version every Past Word's quest was actually styled after the source game, so you had 1-4 with Famicom sprites, 5 and 6 in the SFC style, and 8 onwards were 3D. Very impressive conversion overall, damn shame it wasn't localized back in the day, I'm glad the S version at least gave us the 2D half of it if nothing else, alongside the past words, though they homogenized them into the SNES style which has its ups and downs. Seeing pixel art versions of DQ7-10 locations is pretty sweet, and even the older games that were on the SNES have revamped tilesets with added detail, very cool even if I miss each game having a distinct style.
>>730625923Ditch the dogshit Toriyama style, have a darker world/story, add new music, new enemies and make the gameplay more action-oriented.
>>730631439With zero irony, the garbage translation.
>>730640617From early interviews it sounded like he was going to make with the tone and combat of FF16. I hope the reason we haven't really heard anything is due to dropping this direction.
>>730640431I'm sure that's the case but 2 different mobile games and a console game all flopped. Soulless anime cash grab games are never good
>>730626761DQ11 sorta had marriage. You get to choose to live with your favorite friend. They keep it ambiguous, not outright implying you're having a romance with them, just that they'll live with you and will be your close friend for life. Yes, this involves the male companions. Of course, you can do the trial again and choose a different companion for this so you can go on all of the dates.
>>730641051Also the pacing is much faster. The HD versions all have these big, empty areas that serve no other purpose than letting the played avoid battles and ultimately they just waste time. In the 3DS version the areas are compact but they're abstracted in a way that conveys scale.
>>730625923switch 2 edition
>>730630417I misremembered it
>>730625923rule 1: do not censor or cover up anythingrule 2: shutter the (((ethics department)))rule 3: do not cater to mentally ill westoid freaks
