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So why haven’t you made a bestselling Indie game yet /v/?
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surely you have at least 50k in your bank account, right?
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Because I don't want to. I'm here to play games, not make them.
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>>730632264
Gabriel Garcia did the same so that he could write 100 years of solitude, that won him the Nobel Prize. You think that is cool, but if these works didn't get popular, you would call parasites.
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>>730632264
He forgot the most important part.
>"It's easy. All you need is a girlfriend that pays all your bills for 4 or more years, and just be lucky."
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>>730632409
Yeah and?
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>>730632264
too busy jerking off for 6 hours a day and feeling sorry for myself and indulging in hedonistic escapism for the remainder of my free time
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>>730632264
It takes thousands of hours of work and you won't get a return on it unless you make a game that other people want (but usually don't know it yet). There's other, smaller hurdles, but this alone simply makes it impractical.
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>>730633810
Quitter’s mindset
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>>730633465
dude same
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>>730632264
I want to make an h-game based around a niche fetish. A part of me hopes that I can make enough patreon money to get off NEETbux and move out of my mom's house, but like I said, it's niche, so any patreon cash, and just the game's general success, would put my hopes in doubt, especially if I'm to invite others and share the profits, like I plan to do
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>>730632707
The new tv show adaption of that is really good
Cant wait for s2
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>>730634315
Investor's mindset. I have 8000 hours of free time on my hands. Do I use it lowering my stress and socializing? Or do I spend it learning skills and making some piece of shit no one will care about? Sounds pretty black and white.

I've been thinking lately that belief might play a big role, too. I think people who struggle to improve themselves or live the life they want to live are low in religiosity, while people who chase their dreams and live life to the fullest are probably high in religiosity. It's been found that people high in religiosity are happier, healthier, wealthier and live longer lives. It's not about reading the Bible or going to church, though, as those are just artifacts of Western culture, what actually matters is belief - the belief that good things will come to those who put in the work. If you go to bed on time, you'll wake up tomorrow feeling better and make better decisions...right? Do you believe that? If you put that brownie down and ride your exercise bike for an hour then one day those decisions will pile up and you'll be sexy and fit and people will like you more and want to suck your dick...right? Do you believe that? You might THINK it. You might read it written down somewhere or hear someone say it to you, and then deduce, "Yes, that's how it works!" But do you actually believe it? Do you FEEL it? Can you see it or hear it? Do you know what the better you looks like? Can you truly say for sure that it'll all turn out alright and won't just be a waste of time? I think it comes down to how prone you are to belief. Like an animal who struggles against its instincts, how can he put aside millions of years of natural selection? You need proof, but nobody can give it to because it only exists in the future.

People can tell me anything, but I know I'll die a virgin with a shitty job I hate. I just can't envision what a better life looks like.
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>>730632707
100 years is OK, don't care for the rest of his stuff
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it's too late, AI holodecks will become reality in 2 more weeks, and then we get nuked in WW3
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>>730632264
Is there a dev more based than Ape?
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>>730634934
Nice essay
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>>730634934
You sound like a bitch and your problem is that you only think of doing things in terms of what you can expect as a result. Real men just do what they want.
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>>730634934
Yep. Belief is powerful. It just sucks that kikes took the monopoly on western religion.
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>>730633810
just make a game that is fun to play and get a bunch of people to play it for free, and then put it behind a paywall. it is THAT shrimple..
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>>730634934
>Investor's mindset.
watch out we've got a professional retard over here
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don't forget to base the foundation of your game's design on something some old japanese dudes came up with in the nineties
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Trying to be in the right place at the right time is a fool's errand. But this is what men are for. To gamble because they think they've got a shot, where 90% will toil fruitlessly. Whoever wins you just scoop up, because they're socially maladjusted from hitting the grindstone. Never be the player. Be the house.
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working on it...
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>>730636527
Dude this looks fire do you have a steam page I can wishlist?
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>>730634934
>Investor's mindset
Nigger mindset. This is why they never left the stone age.
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I want to make an h-game after seeing how much some of these Patreons make every month, but while I can draw and program, I really struggle with ideas.
I have some overarching ideas but the actual nitty-gritty details are too hard for me.
I've tried finding someone to collab with, but ideaguys are somehow hard to come by.
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>>730636617
thanks, i really appreciate it, bro

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3176830/Monster_Freaks/

I keep updating the demo so it' hopefully going to be better as i get feedback and as time goes on. So let me know if there's anything bout the game that sucks.
Hoping to release this year.
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>>730632409
$50k is about $15-18k less than the annual living expenses for an average individual American.
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>>730637483
$50k would be enough for me to neet for over 3 years.
>$1k/month rent for a 1/1
>$30/month internet
>$25/month phone
>$60/month electricity
>$100/month car insurance + gas, could sell if I have to
>$100/month food, could go less
That's about $16k a year, $47k for three years
Not sure where you're getting your numbers from
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>>730637742
>$100/month food
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>>730637742
>https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cesan.nr0.htm
It's actual closer to $80k/yr

Also, where you live will greatly influence the figure. Maybe if you live in some kind of absolute low pop state (WY, parts of the midwest, whatever), you'd see figures like what you're quoting. Where I am, near but not in a major city, internet is $80/mo (gigabit), rent is $2.5k/mo for a 1br/ba, electricity is lower, food is $250-300/mo (1 person), and gas is fucked.

I'd be interested where you are to have those figures.
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>>730637742
You had be going until the food part. That's way too small. You'll die living off of ramen for 3 years from the sodium intake alone. Unless you are mooching off of others for your food. Also why are you not paying for any dental or health insurance? If a sudden medical expense hits you as an american you're finished. You're basically gambling.
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>>730633465
Most honest/v/ poster.
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>>730637956
I live in Miami.
Genuinely not sure how you're spending that much on food. Can you post your receipt or something?

>>730637994
Actually had dental work last year. Had two wisdom teeth removed ($400 total) and a deep cleaning ($140), paid out of pocket. Wasn't that big a deal.
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>>730637742
>100/month on food
what's the plan there? subsist on primarily rice and assorted vegetables for three years? a decent chuck of meat alone will go through around 1/6 of your monthly budget
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>>730632264
im legitimately crippled by my wage cage
no time or energy left when im trying to decompress on weekends
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>>730638123
>how much do you spend on food
M8, even on the USDA's 'Thrifty' food spending plan, an average monthly food budget for an individual starts at $250. If you are only spending $100 for a full month of food, you're either eating infrequently, or you're eating beans/rice/bulk vegetables or otherwise being beyond thrifty. I don't even buy junk food that often and I still can't walk away each month for less than $250.
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>>730632264
I have absolutely no skill whatsoever in any form of creative activity AND I'm lazy!
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>>730638434
Genuinely not sure if I'm having my leg pulled here or something.
I can buy five pounds of chicken for $5 and it'll easily last me a week, two if I stretch it out.
If you don't like drumsticks, six pounds of thighs is about $8 and lasts just as long. Ground turkey is $2/lb, and every now and then I'll get a $5/lb pack of ground beef that'll last me 2-3 days depending on how I use it.

What the hell are you guys eating that's costing you so much?
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>>730638702
If you're buying in bulk for the whole month and loading the freezer, and eating a very no-frills diet, sure, I can maybe buy $100/mo being your food bill. For comparison, here are some prices out where I am near Portland:

>milk is $3/gal unless you want no-name store brands that are $2/gal
>steak is typically $10/lb+ for most cuts
>boxes of regular snacks are $3 to $5/ea unless on sale
>pre-cooked chicken is typically $0.50/oz
>a loaf of bread (from regional bakeries) is $2.50-$4.00 depending on subtype

I don't know what to tell you other than to read the link I posted above and understand how anything sub-$200 for one person per month in food in 2025/2026 is extraordinarily low. Maybe you just have some kind of super poverty tier prison-style diet where it's beyond no frills, but fulfills your nutritional needs. Good for you, if that's the case.
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first I will learn japanese and become japanese
then I will master houdini
then maybe I'll make an inde porn game
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>>730637742
What country? My rent in the USA is 2000$ a month for the cheapest place I could find that was not government subsidized or in the worst ghetto



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