surely you have at least 50k in your bank account, right?

Because I don't want to. I'm here to play games, not make them.

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>>730632264
Gabriel Garcia did the same so that he could write 100 years of solitude, that won him the Nobel Prize. You think that is cool, but if these works didn't get popular, you would call parasites.

>>730632264
He forgot the most important part.
>"It's easy. All you need is a girlfriend that pays all your bills for 4 or more years, and just be lucky."

>>730632409
Yeah and?

>>730632264
too busy jerking off for 6 hours a day and feeling sorry for myself and indulging in hedonistic escapism for the remainder of my free time

>>730632264
It takes thousands of hours of work and you won't get a return on it unless you make a game that other people want (but usually don't know it yet). There's other, smaller hurdles, but this alone simply makes it impractical.

>>730633810
Quitter’s mindset

>>730633465
dude same

>>730632264
I want to make an h-game based around a niche fetish. A part of me hopes that I can make enough patreon money to get off NEETbux and move out of my mom's house, but like I said, it's niche, so any patreon cash, and just the game's general success, would put my hopes in doubt, especially if I'm to invite others and share the profits, like I plan to do

>>730632707
The new tv show adaption of that is really good
Cant wait for s2

>>730634315
Investor's mindset. I have 8000 hours of free time on my hands. Do I use it lowering my stress and socializing? Or do I spend it learning skills and making some piece of shit no one will care about? Sounds pretty black and white.

I've been thinking lately that belief might play a big role, too. I think people who struggle to improve themselves or live the life they want to live are low in religiosity, while people who chase their dreams and live life to the fullest are probably high in religiosity. It's been found that people high in religiosity are happier, healthier, wealthier and live longer lives. It's not about reading the Bible or going to church, though, as those are just artifacts of Western culture, what actually matters is belief - the belief that good things will come to those who put in the work. If you go to bed on time, you'll wake up tomorrow feeling better and make better decisions...right? Do you believe that? If you put that brownie down and ride your exercise bike for an hour then one day those decisions will pile up and you'll be sexy and fit and people will like you more and want to suck your dick...right? Do you believe that? You might THINK it. You might read it written down somewhere or hear someone say it to you, and then deduce, "Yes, that's how it works!" But do you actually believe it? Do you FEEL it? Can you see it or hear it? Do you know what the better you looks like? Can you truly say for sure that it'll all turn out alright and won't just be a waste of time? I think it comes down to how prone you are to belief. Like an animal who struggles against its instincts, how can he put aside millions of years of natural selection? You need proof, but nobody can give it to because it only exists in the future.

People can tell me anything, but I know I'll die a virgin with a shitty job I hate. I just can't envision what a better life looks like.

>>730632707
100 years is OK, don't care for the rest of his stuff

it's too late, AI holodecks will become reality in 2 more weeks, and then we get nuked in WW3

>>730632264
Is there a dev more based than Ape?

>>730634934
Nice essay

>>730634934
You sound like a bitch and your problem is that you only think of doing things in terms of what you can expect as a result. Real men just do what they want.

>>730634934
Yep. Belief is powerful. It just sucks that kikes took the monopoly on western religion.

>>730633810
just make a game that is fun to play and get a bunch of people to play it for free, and then put it behind a paywall. it is THAT shrimple..

>>730634934
>Investor's mindset.
watch out we've got a professional retard over here

don't forget to base the foundation of your game's design on something some old japanese dudes came up with in the nineties

Trying to be in the right place at the right time is a fool's errand. But this is what men are for. To gamble because they think they've got a shot, where 90% will toil fruitlessly. Whoever wins you just scoop up, because they're socially maladjusted from hitting the grindstone. Never be the player. Be the house.

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working on it...

>>730636527
Dude this looks fire do you have a steam page I can wishlist?

>>730634934
>Investor's mindset
Nigger mindset. This is why they never left the stone age.

I want to make an h-game after seeing how much some of these Patreons make every month, but while I can draw and program, I really struggle with ideas.
I have some overarching ideas but the actual nitty-gritty details are too hard for me.
I've tried finding someone to collab with, but ideaguys are somehow hard to come by.

>>730636617
thanks, i really appreciate it, bro

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3176830/Monster_Freaks/

I keep updating the demo so it' hopefully going to be better as i get feedback and as time goes on. So let me know if there's anything bout the game that sucks.
Hoping to release this year.

>>730632409
$50k is about $15-18k less than the annual living expenses for an average individual American.

>>730637483
$50k would be enough for me to neet for over 3 years.
>$1k/month rent for a 1/1
>$30/month internet
>$25/month phone
>$60/month electricity
>$100/month car insurance + gas, could sell if I have to
>$100/month food, could go less
That's about $16k a year, $47k for three years
Not sure where you're getting your numbers from

>>730637742
>$100/month food
>

>>730637742
>https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cesan.nr0.htm
It's actual closer to $80k/yr

Also, where you live will greatly influence the figure. Maybe if you live in some kind of absolute low pop state (WY, parts of the midwest, whatever), you'd see figures like what you're quoting. Where I am, near but not in a major city, internet is $80/mo (gigabit), rent is $2.5k/mo for a 1br/ba, electricity is lower, food is $250-300/mo (1 person), and gas is fucked.

I'd be interested where you are to have those figures.

>>730637742
You had be going until the food part. That's way too small. You'll die living off of ramen for 3 years from the sodium intake alone. Unless you are mooching off of others for your food. Also why are you not paying for any dental or health insurance? If a sudden medical expense hits you as an american you're finished. You're basically gambling.

>>730633465
Most honest/v/ poster.

>>730637956
I live in Miami.
Genuinely not sure how you're spending that much on food. Can you post your receipt or something?

>>730637994
Actually had dental work last year. Had two wisdom teeth removed ($400 total) and a deep cleaning ($140), paid out of pocket. Wasn't that big a deal.

>>730637742
>100/month on food
what's the plan there? subsist on primarily rice and assorted vegetables for three years? a decent chuck of meat alone will go through around 1/6 of your monthly budget

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>>730632264
im legitimately crippled by my wage cage
no time or energy left when im trying to decompress on weekends

>>730638123
>how much do you spend on food
M8, even on the USDA's 'Thrifty' food spending plan, an average monthly food budget for an individual starts at $250. If you are only spending $100 for a full month of food, you're either eating infrequently, or you're eating beans/rice/bulk vegetables or otherwise being beyond thrifty. I don't even buy junk food that often and I still can't walk away each month for less than $250.

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>>730632264
I have absolutely no skill whatsoever in any form of creative activity AND I'm lazy!

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>>730638434
Genuinely not sure if I'm having my leg pulled here or something.
I can buy five pounds of chicken for $5 and it'll easily last me a week, two if I stretch it out.
If you don't like drumsticks, six pounds of thighs is about $8 and lasts just as long. Ground turkey is $2/lb, and every now and then I'll get a $5/lb pack of ground beef that'll last me 2-3 days depending on how I use it.

What the hell are you guys eating that's costing you so much?

>>730638702
If you're buying in bulk for the whole month and loading the freezer, and eating a very no-frills diet, sure, I can maybe buy $100/mo being your food bill. For comparison, here are some prices out where I am near Portland:

>milk is $3/gal unless you want no-name store brands that are $2/gal
>steak is typically $10/lb+ for most cuts
>boxes of regular snacks are $3 to $5/ea unless on sale
>pre-cooked chicken is typically $0.50/oz
>a loaf of bread (from regional bakeries) is $2.50-$4.00 depending on subtype

I don't know what to tell you other than to read the link I posted above and understand how anything sub-$200 for one person per month in food in 2025/2026 is extraordinarily low. Maybe you just have some kind of super poverty tier prison-style diet where it's beyond no frills, but fulfills your nutritional needs. Good for you, if that's the case.

first I will learn japanese and become japanese
then I will master houdini
then maybe I'll make an inde porn game

>>730637742
What country? My rent in the USA is 2000$ a month for the cheapest place I could find that was not government subsidized or in the worst ghetto

>>730632707
100 years is shit

>>730632264
If Stardew was made 10 years earlier, it would not have been successful.
If Stardew was made 10 years later, it would not have been successful.

I'm still surprised it ever became so big to begin with, but I guess the game really nailed the timing.

my older sister has been paying all my bills for 6+ years but it looks like she got herself a boyfriend because she has been really pushy about me moving back in with my parents

>>730638702
Chicken fucking sucks

>>730638702
Very few people can stand having no food variety. And I wouldn't believe you if you told me you aren't going to crack eating chicken drum sticks, rice and beans only every day for 3 years.

people should be copying the Brown Dust minigames RIGHT NOW

>>730639632
Ya mums knickers have brown dust lmao

>>730636708
tomboy ghost hunter but she regularly gets fucked by the ghosts.
also she is undercover in the cheerleading squad because one of the girls are a demon, and the uniform is extremely embarrassingly inadequate on her massive tits

>>730639654
we love mexican food in this household

>>730639693
Overarching ideas like that are easy. I already have a couple.
The hard part is the details. Going off of yours, what exactly is the gameplay? What controls do I need, what does the UI look like? What are the numbers; how much damage do you do, how much health do the enemies have, is there experience, how much do you get, what happens when you level up? Is there gear? Where do you find it, what does it do? What even are the stats, and how do they affect gameplay? Is any of that even good or fun? Etc etc, stuff like that.

>>730638895
Budget/store brand stuff often is shittier but I see no reason not to buy store brand milk and eggs personally.

>>730632409
I'm trans rich and I expect the bank to respect my balance's pronouns.

>>730639790
first decide if you're making a fap game or an actual game, then go from there. if it's for fapping (i assume it is since you're asking about an h-game), the "gameplay" only needs to deliver the porn. for example, a side scroller where you only fall into traps and run from monsters.

>>730639986
Again, all of that still requires details.
>for example, a side scroller where you only fall into traps and run from monsters.
Okay. What traps? What monsters? What does the level look like? What controls do I need, just moving and jumping? How far and how high can I jump? How do I even win, do I just reach the end or is there some kind of boss? Are there points or some kind of scoring/time system? We still need a UI for all of this.
And for delivering the porn, when does it show up? When I take damage (do I even have health, or is it instant death)? Or when I die?

There's a lot that goes into game design other than just having a basic idea, even for a simple game. That's what I'm getting stuck on.

>>730634934
All I know is that if you're poor, it's because you don't work hard.

>>730636527
>>730636617
>>730636756
Least obvious samefag

>>730640091
the questions you're asking makes it sound like you know absolutely nothing about game design or don't even play games at all. go to f95zone and make an account, sort threads by the most popular and start playing those games, seriously.
you're on /v/, you've never seen a game with traps in it? or the kinds of monsters that are usually in h-games? you have no preferences? you just need to play more games man.

>>730637796
>>730637994
>>730638343
Inflation isn't THAT bad, retards.

>>730640091
I like to start with imagining themes or thematic stuff, the try to convert that feel into mechanics and gameplay

>>730640301
$100/mo was pushing it even before the scamdemic
Your mom do your shopping for you?

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>>730640251
Right, but I'm trying to make the game. I have to make decisions for all of those things, and then program it, and then make art assets for it. What am I even making when all I have is a vague idea? You don't just open up Godot and say
>okay computer, make me a sidescroller
and then crack open a cold one. You have to make decisions, and a lot of them, and most of them are about really boring and uninteresting things like whether the bat has 10 HP or 12, if it drops 5 EXP or 7, and so on.

This isn't just me being anal, look at actual video games. They all have extensive design documents that detail all the minutiae that goes on behind the scenes.

just eat rice, beans and lentils all day bros, maybe with a can of tuna if you're feeling spicy.

>>730634934
The absolute worst thing you can do is spend your time navel-gazing about why you're a piece of shit. It doesn't make you a good person - it makes you a self-aware piece of shit, which makes you extra miserable. People who live in denial of their shittiness are happier, because they don't notice how bad they suck, which allows them to take action. When you're self-aware, you get caught up in recursive loops (like your post) and don't do anything or go anywhere.
Seriously. Stop thinking. Thinking is bad for people like you and me. Just go do things and don't think about them.

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>>730640234
you'll get 'em next time.

>>730635469
>Real men just do what they want.
I WANT to eat cookies and shitpost and play video games and jerk off to anime girls. I also WANT to get laid and be rich and move across the country and play my dream games.

One of those things I can do right now. The other I can't. First, I have to do a bunch of shit I DON'T WANT to do, like learn and work and workout and put myself in uncomfortable positions. Only then will I be rewarded with the things I DO WANT to do.

Maybe. Nobody knows for sure. It's a mystery box. Getting in shape might get me laid, it might not. Making a game might make me money, it might not. Going to college might get me a career, it might not. It's one big question mark.

So why would anyone do it? Because they BELIEVE the thing they want is in the box. It's all about belief. It's a gamble. Do you believe your hand is better than the dealer's? Well I can see my hand and it looks pretty fucking bad so no I don't. I'm not playing, I'm cashing out now.

>>730636636
You're right, but why did they evolve to behave that way? It's because it was more successful in their environment. It wasn't random. When people die young to malaria or violence, you have to act fast. When food grows on the trees all around you, you don't have to worry about where it'll come from in the future. You can save up, but someone will steal it. You can spend your time raising your kids, but most of them won't live to adulthood. Like it or not, they have the right mindset for their ecology.

And our current ecology is becoming more and more like that. I went to school, I go to work, I don't feel close to anyone. Food is in abundance. Living is easy. I watched teenage girls throw themselves at narcissists and psychopaths. Every day on the news I see hordes of people burning shit down. I don't see how the modern West is different from the jungle.

>>730640475
this is easy to me, I just adjust the numbers until they feel good

>>730637742
>60 for electricity
>while his PC chugs in the corner and he uses his PS5/XBX as a room heater
>100 for car insurance PLUS gas
>Oh yeah i'd definitely would sell it if i had too!
Laughing my fucking ass right out of orbit.

>>730638895
How are things on the war front?

>>730640475
that's just the process of making a game, it's work after all.

>>730639294
Damn dude you sound kinda useless. Do you at least have a good reason or is it just woman shit like "I'm le depressed?"

>>730640652
Quiet. The retards confine themselves to downtown Portland, which has been a shithole for a quarter of a century.

>>730640475
start with a prototype and build from there. Balancing and variable tweaks happen throughout development.

>>730639790
Just pick an easy gameplay style to replicate out of the games you like and do that.

>>730640475
>idea guys are useles-
Oh no no no

>>730640579
>why did they evolve
They didn't.

>>730639547
There's a lot you can do with the drumsticks alone.
Bake them, grill, fry, deep fry, de-bone, shred, boil, and so on.
Bread ($1/loaf) + Butter ($1/stick) makes toast as a side or a sandwich with the chicken.
Top it with lettuce ($2/head), onion ($1/bulb), and tomatoes ($0.25/ea) for a sandwich, or use that to make a salad with dressing ($2/bottle). Or get some tortillas ($2 for 10) and make tacos or quesadillas.
Instead of eating it with rice and beans, you can mash, boil, or bake a potato as a side ($3.50 for 5lbs) or grill some asparagus or broccoli ($1/bag, frozen).
Pasta is cheap too ($1/lb), and you can either buy a jar of sauce ($1-3/jar) or use the vegetables to make it yourself.
And when you're running low on all of the above, you can toss it in a pot and make soup.

>>730640608
My insurance is $60/month (Geico, I drive an 03 accord, no loan), and I spend about $10 on gas per week driving to work.
I can sell the car just fine because it's a forty minute bus ride to my job and a thirty minute walk to Walmart or Publix.

Well who's gonna be my sugar mommy/daddy while I dev to make us both rich?

>>730632264
I know this post is supposed to be incel bait, but a lot of people on here are >25 years old and still live with their parents.

>>730641149
I refuse to believe anyone lives with their parents after 20 years old.

>>730641236
Anon betrays how sheltered he is as to be completely unaware of the state of personal finances in the US in 2026.

>>730640591
>>730640739
What numbers? What variables? I don't even know what stats I need to implement in the first place.

>>730632852
>and just be lucky
No luck needed.
Just make a game for women, gay and toons. none of them are smart enough to pirate so they buy games

>>730637742
Anon, I'm basically a monk and $100 a month for food is just retarded. I never eat out and cook every meal and my average is about $60 a week. That also includes incidentals like TP, laundry detergent, paper towels, trash bags, toothbrush/paste, deodorant, etc. factored in. $30 internet is also suspect along with $25 phone. 18-20K is a much more realistic figure.

>>730641481
>women, gay and toons.
Ok, Eddie Valiant.

>>730638895
>steak
>snacks
>pre-cooked chicken
i'm going to remember this whenever i see my fellow americans whining about cost of living from now on

what a fucking child, you deserve to be anxious

>>730641586
the whole roast chicken at the grocery store is cheaper than a whole raw bird.

>>730641586
Certain cuts of steak can certainly be luxury meals, but not all of them. And pre-cooked chicken is that frozen chicken stuff you just toss in the oven or air fryer; not the shitty pre-packaged grab and go meals.

Reserve your whining for the people who spend 200+ on takeout, Starbucks, and food deliveries and then whine about cost of living.

>>730641463
death is too gruesome,so she just gets exhausted. so a genetic defence meter, float.
when you lose she is brought to the ghost orgy dimension and you lose a day

>>730634934
ChatGPT post

>>730632264
I don't want to make streamerbait or a vampire survivors clone or friendslop or a metroidvania or a quake clone or a quirky earthbound inspired rpg about depression or a pixelshit platformer or

>>730641271
Oh so it's just NPNW zoomies being lazy fags, got it.

>>730641481
>Just make a game for women, gay and toons.
The funny thing is you're basically saying "just make the next GOTY" since most games appealing to those demographics also appeal to /v/.

>>730641524
>my average is about $60 a week.
You realize that actual monks aren't as fat as the buddha statue, right?

>>730641707
Food deliveries killed the US home dynamic.

"They devote their free time to making games! It's not fair. I don't want to devote my free time to making games."

>>730641871
>modern 4chan doesn't want to make anything
I'm shocked.

>>730642086
It was a combination of many things, including smartphones/the internet and the general erosion of the family unit. And I think most of the people getting food deliveries are people without families anyway.

>>730641236
I do and I'm 42.

>>730642103
>free time
Oxymoron.

>>730642136
Missing the point award

>>730636527
Played the demo just now, I like this alot. Had a sensible chuckle over the shotgun ammo in the school bathroom - only problem I ran into was one of the big green sprinter retards getting stuck on one of the trash cans in the backyard of the school before the boss fight. Wishlisted, best of luck.

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>>730632264
And what if I just want to do a gaem to show off all my bros and other anons a good time huh fuck this kike mindset of being the biggest AW, not my fault all of you cunts got the jezebel spirit down your a-holes thinking you can get rich by making vydia(though only a small minority of indie devs can manage that).

>>730642228
Bait used to be believable.

>>730632264
No girlfriend that I see myself marrying one day :(