Why didn’t the GameCube achieve the mainstream success it deserved?
Cuz it has no fucking games, retard.Sega of all shit companies was pretty much all they had.
>>730633831No games? Lmao
>>730633831Why don’t you list all the games jerkoff
>>730633639Didn't have a DVD player.
imagine the "chocolate cake, nintendo, and me" scene but with prime mila kunis and a gamecube.You would die
>>730633831It had a ton of third party support. I imagine not being a media player like ps2 and Xbox hurt it along with no online. I think the handle was a mistake too. I know zero people who grabbed the GameCube by its handle and it makes it kinda kiddy looking.
>>730635802Weren’t they dirt cheap at that point
>>730636026Nope. Ps2 was the cheapest dvd player on the market.
>>730633639>last of the sixth gen consoles to launch, basically let PS2 run the market with zero competition for basically a year and a half>Nintendo did not anticipate the market pivot from platformers to shooters despite publishing the best selling FPS of the 90s>Luigi's Mansion of all things was its launch title, Mario Sunshine would still be a year away due to numerous other Super Mario 64 sequel projects failing to get off the ground, was still rushed out and ultimately seen as a weaker follow up to the legendary Super Mario 64>basically just a dearth of big tentpoles outside of Melee early on>any prestige momentum killed by the Celda reveal at Space World 2001 which would basically put them into damage control for the next three years until Twilight Princess's legendary reveal at E3 2004>even massive discounts to less than a hundred dollars did not compel anybody to buy it>Iwata literally had to go on CNN to convince people Nintendo wasn't going to go the way of Sega which had only recently just dropped out of the console marketBasically Nintendo was woefully unprepared for sixth gen and for how much good came out of it like Pikmin or Luigi's Mansion it really couldn't distinguish itself from the existing competition. But they came roaring back with the Wii and DS so iin the long run it was just seen as a quaint speedbump, and at least it wasn't the Wii U.
It missed Grand Theft Auto which was the kiss of death. Even OG Xbox sold more consoles than Gamecube.
>>730633639The PS2 was an unstoppable planet sized meteor hurling through the video game industry, and not a single soul was safe.
>>730636062no it wasn't retard
>>730635802>>730636026Fun fact: There was a Gamecube DVD player. It still bombed.
Also Dreamcast was going to get a DVD player as well. But it didn't matter. Both consoles lost the zeitgeist.
>>730636296>dreamcast was too early for dvd>xbox has dvd and flopped>gamecube has dvd (japan only, but it flopped so no western release)>but the ps2 succeed because of dvdThe ps2 haters will seethe and cope until they die.
>>730633831Wut. It had Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Pikmin, Mario Sunshine, Smash Melee. You probably weren't even there when all of those games kicked the ass of anyone who played them. The only game Xbox had was Halo and tons and tons of shovelware. PS2 had the DVD player and came out sooner. Real gamers bought a Gamecube. Of course, Halo 2 came out with Xbox Live and that generation, Nintendo fell off. They were entirely different times that you probably weren't even there for, but Gamecube had an incredible library filled with cool experimental and usually good games. Does Halo still have the same legacy? No. Because it was an overrated series that had no gameplay depth. Then CoD came along and every white middle upper class frat bro had an Xbox 360
>>730636121Thanks a lot Reggie
>>730636062No, you're probably thinking of the PS3 being a great deal because it could play blurays. PS2 was not a good option if all you wanted was a dvd player.
>>730636296I doubt the average nip saw a DVD before fucking 2010
>>730636284$300 for a game console and dvd player in 2000 was an amazing value. The year before it cost $200-300. Yeah by 2000 it dropped in cost a lot.
>>730636296Didn't this thing bomb because it was only released in China?
>Why didn’t the GameCube achieve the mainstream success it deserved?Nintendo made a lot of dumb decisions.
>>730635887yes my dick would burst and then my heart
>>730636385Another fun fact. The Dreamcast DVD was working until a baka gaijin broke it.
>>730636121Celda put one of the biggest nails in the coffin for that shit, and it was rushed af too, its what happens when youre in full panic mode internally, you start getting desperate to compete and end up tripping. Melee being such a hit and being completed before them panicking over Sony's PS2 player that launched with garbage. I won't lie though some gems in that pile of misfires like Prime and Pikmin.
>>730636609You’re right that I did mix them up. Ps2 being a good value because it included a dvd player still stands though.
>>730636791Nintendo was always trying to make things indestructible in a way that benefited the consumer. Smaller discs for smaller hands means easier handling. Nintendo has grown up with millennials. Now we have nice cartridges, which third parties are starting to fuck up with key cards
>>730636972Your opinion doesn't matter because you're not Jewish
>>730637006Wasn’t the smaller disc mainly because of piracy?
>>730637075I doubt it, because I think they autistically push for cartridges to make them less destructible when children handle the games. Discs get scratched by children, except for me because I took care of them. Now I don't, because discs don't have much value, but my point remains the same
>>730633639mila is an actual goddess that has aged like fine wine
>>730637075No Nintendo cares about gamers first money second
>>730636545Everyone fucking hated the animu colored style of both wind waker and sunshine when it came out because of nintendo wanking their ultra realistic tech demo. It probably cost them millions of copies. No one gave enough of a shit about Pikmin to buy a gamecube either.Melee is about the only thing that people wanted and maybe mario kart.>b-b-b-but those games were goodThe quality doesn't matter if no one wants to give it a chance because of pants on head retarded wii u tier marketing
>>730637075That I think and they did not want to pay royalties to whoever manufactured them iirc, although the printing process apparently cost them more that the DVD standard would've. I don't 100% think this is true though.>>730637229Ukrainian or daughter of Ukrainian immigrants believe it or not which is insane.I didn't even know they looked like that, I just thought they were slavs 2.0
>Mini CD, NOT Dvds. Meaning most multiplat games would've required multiple disks. It also lacked the functionality of the PS2/Xbox of acting like a DVD player>Lacked the "edge" that was a hallmark of the era. >It had the same exact problem as the 64, a distinct lack of BIG Third Party titles. No FF, No over the top violent games like GoW/DMC, No FPS, The ONLY MGS they got was a remake on 1 not 2 or 3.
>>730637251That's why they released Twilight Princess three years later. It was technically a Gamecube title. The other two companies just had certain novel things that brought them more temporary success. GC had the better library. Xbox had Halo 2 and PS2 came out first and third parties were quick to jump on it. Wii came out and killed it though
>>730636296It was outrageously expensive, and exclusive to some shithole like Brazil or something.
>>730633639Nintendo fans grew up, so they wanted PlayStation, not Nintendo.
>>730637440I think it was China because they were banning vidya consoles att so they sold it under the guise of a DVD player that also plays games, like a loophole, but its literally just a DVD player built into a Gamecube iirc.
>>730637075That was an incidental benefit. The real reason that went with those dumbass baby discs is because they were proprietary.
>>730633639Normies like Snoyslop.
>>730637464PS2 had games like GTA and Max Payne. Nintendo never got those on GC, but Nintendo plays a long game. Someday third parties will understand Nintendo's necessity and supremacy and cater to them
>>730636521>Xbox>flopped???
>>730633639N64/Gamecube vs PS1/PS2 is kind of interesting. Even though both the Sony consoles outsold their Nintendo competitors by multiplicative amounts, the top selling games moved a comparable amount of units. Which suggests a lot of households really did buy the PS1/PS2 for the built-in CD and DVD players. It's also why N64/Gamecube endured better in pop culture.
>>730637751Yes, the total lifetime sales discrepancy was just that high, that's how hard PS2 dominated that generation.
>>730637839The PS2 utterly dominating didn't make the Xbox a flop.
>>730637464Also, Nintendo could possibly create a system souped up so it can play the newest third party games, but that isn't the game Nintendo plays and they've never played it. They play in their own field. If Sony can release the newest GTA, but it can't run on Switch 2, they are potentially missing out on millions of sales. Third parties don't care. They never cared about Sony or Microsoft; to them those companies' systems are just cum dumps that they can release their games on. Nintendo don't take no shit and that's no problem for Nintendo because they have multiple first party titles that (in Switch 1's case) sold millions together on par with GTA5 and had much lower production costs.
>>730637912So then we agree the Gamecube wasn't either despite the numbers being about 3 million off from each other?
>>730637050You arent either.
>>730637998No. The Xbox wasn't a flop because I had one.
>>730637998I never said anything to the contrary. I had all three consoles.
>>730637751>-$4billion (7billion adjusted for inflation)https://www.ign.com/articles/2011/11/23/the-life-and-death-of-the-original-xbox
>>730637912>>730637998Xbox needed their foot in the door, they did that so you can't say it flopped. Nintendo was once king of the market, fucked up with the N64 and doubled down their fuck ups with the GameCube. Gamecube flopped
>>730638201Not really. Sony and MS became cum dumps of the entire industry and today Sony and MS have no games. They're getting absorbed into the Western tech conglomerate and starting to meld together into a degrading monstrosity of mediocrity
>>730638201I can now play FF7, FF8, FF9, and FF10 and MGS 1, 2, and 3 on my Nintendo Switch. Who won?
>>730637839>xbox had Halo>gamecube had melee>sony had ????????
>>730638426You're not wrong but there is a fuck ton of money on the table off the western tech conglomerate and catering to normies is in their best interest, competing with Nintendo atm on that turf might as well be a nightmare, modern game devs don't even care about putting the same effort that Ninty still does and they're doing it at a fraction of the cost. I don't wanna sit here and bat for these faggots like that but when your competition cares and puts actual effort in AND has a horde of longtime fans buying their shit, why bother. The only reason I hate bringing this up because in some ways Tendies are right to celebrate how well they're doing in turbulent times rn and I don't wanna give them more fuel.
>>730639057dvd player
>>730633639Shut up, Meg
>>730639057Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, God of War, Gran Turismo, best version of GTA SA, Tekken, Soul Calibur 3, Dragon Quest 8, God Hand, Ace Combat... the list goes on and on and on
>>730633639I feel like Gamecube having the smaller disc space was what killed its potential for third-party support. Many third-party games skipped it simply because they were too big for one gamecube disc. Some third party games that did make it to gamecube ended up having to strip down on content because of space limitations, too.On another note, Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine, while good games, didn't quite meet the expectations many people had coming from Ocarina or Mario 64, and likely was another major impact on the sales.
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>>730640770For me Resident Evil 4 GC Version is one (if not the best) looking game of the generation.It shows how much potential the gamecube had if the playstation didn't exist.
>>730641034It helps that the director of resident evil at the time really loved the gamecube.
>>730641226smart guy, the best
>>730641226I would love too if nintendo paid me a huge amount of cash on a exclusivity deal
>>730637945sauce
