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Um he said g*psy just outright like this? I can't believe such problematic slurs got past the localizers! And this horrible fat shaming. Girls have died to this kind of sick, patriarchal messaging. Be beter!

Ugly behavior is usually reflected on the outside.
You don't get that fat by accident.

>>730638059
You joke but this scene is genuinely getting cut in the remake
>>730637620
And most of these themes too. Friendship is magic now

>>730638418
>they will cut social links of party members
Doubt

>>730637620
>Ugly people are selfish assholes.
Ugliness is subjective, and appearance has no bearing on personality.
>Creepy weirdos without social skills are dangerous, and it's better to bully and mock them.
True, but ONLY if they have right wing beliefs and want to lose their virginity.
>It's your fault if your life isn't fulfilling; stop blaming your circumstances and other people.
People can be born with structural disadvantages.
>Nobody owes you friendship. If you're lonely, it's because you're not worth being around.
True, but ONLY if they have right wing beliefs and desire brotherhood.
>Your trauma is your problem. Don't make it everyone else's burden
Trauma is a collective burden.
>If you're always the "victim" in your stories, you're probably just an asshole
True, but ONLY if they have right wing beliefs, want to lose their virginity, and desire brotherhood.

>>730638553
They won't, but they're going to remove all gendered dialogue.

>>730638884
Japanese language doesn't have "gendered dialogues". And you fags always demanded translation without "adaptations", well he/she always was an adaptation for western audience, enjoy your "they".

>>730638884
I'd rather play p4g again, the little side events make the game feel like you have friends.

>>730637620
BASED

>>730638969
>Japanese language doesn't have "gendered dialogues".
The translation I mean. In P3FES during the Hermit link, Maya says Tanaka has an effeminate way of speaking. In P3R it's almost the exact same dialogue except they replaced "effeminate" with "creepy".
Any reference to masculine/feminine will be removed. All modern translations are doing it.

>>730639909
Fuck off already, no one cares about your twitter drama and hurt feelings

>>730639954
So you saw those posts too, huh?
It's a reality, it's happening to all sorts of translations and media everywhere. I'm not sure what the purpose is but you'll notice it in Digimon as well, referring to clearly male or female creatures with male or female identities as "they". It doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Probably another kike tactic.
And you getting defensive about it just confirms that.

>>730639954
you're going to notice "ladies and gentlemen" being removed whether you like it or not.

>>730638969
The japanese dialogue pretty explicitly uses "Man" "Manly" "Woman" and "Womanly" for Kanji and Naoto's story and social links

>>730637620
I used to think this bitch was hot as fuck

>>730637620
>another echochamber thread for normgroids to fellate themselves
Don't you get tired of this?

>>730637620
so this scene isn't going to survive the remake

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will p4r have anything as kino as the bust up (thigh up) portraits mod?
it paired with the naked mod makes p3r casual nudity kino, too bad there are a couple characters without nude models though

>>730640787
P3R was very subtle with its translation changing things, but in P4R there's going to be no way to be subtle about it.
They either change things and receive huge backlash, or meekly let the translation remain faithful.

>>730640953
Depends on how the modding scene goes. Maybe.

>>730640787
Most scenes in P4 won't survive the remake
P4 and P5 fans didn't mind when P3 got butchered because they didn't like it in the first place
When their beloved game gets soiled I'll be here to laugh at all of you

>>730637620
Okay, but do you really need videogames, or movies, or self-help slop books to tell you any of this? Most people are aware of the fact that they aren't liked not because they're likable or fun to be around with. It just makes their resentment grow bigger, as if they're incompatible with life itself, so they might as well be even bigger self-indulgent assholes.
Truly sad.

>>730640953
where would one find such mod, just to see how it would look like?

>>730641108
>P3 got butchered
What got butchered?

>>730640462
>explicitly
thats not what explicitly means

>>730641108
p3r is a mixed bag, somethings are an improvement but others suffered from it going off of the p3p version for whatever reason

>>730641108
the original game will still exist. p4 has already been butchered to hell and back due to the translation having all sorts of weird decisions in it, and the actors taking characters in very different directions

and that's before you think about what golden did to the game

at the end of the day you have to accept that it's just going to be a 4th totally different spin on the game

>>730641189
atmosphere, scene direction and music

>>730641180
secretariamods for the portraits
jmedia7 on kemono/ loverslab for the models

4 Remake WILL let you fuck Yosuke

>>730641327
4 remake should have a female mc, it worked well with p3p

>>730641189
lighting is wonky, it's a bit better at minimum brightness but the shadows are still not great
the script is based off of p3p, which has some leftover jank from that
remixes are objectively worse than the originals, i think there was a mixing issue since the tracks sound really muffled
there are likely some other things but it's been forever since i've played fes, i do know that they toned yukari down although iirc her being a bitch was always a localization thing (she was better for it though)

>>730641289
danke anon. Looks great.

>>730641327
i'd accept fagsuke if they have a secret ending where dojima or yukiko is the killer like with the old plans

>>730638604
I like fat chicks but she ugly as F

>>730637620
I wonder how they're going to change her on the remake.

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>>730641275
All of those are well retained. You can say they're slightly different, calling them butchered is idiocy. P3's ideas and themes are stronger than ever, Reload adds more than it ever takes away. The water elements in particular are perfect for Melancholy and Death.
>>730641413
You're right about the script, but the lighting is only considered "bad" in the Dorm for being a little bit too bright and the added green filters for the Tziah block of Tartarus and the top were overdone. Everywhere else looks excellent.
I didn't notice anything bad about the music. There's nothing muffled about it. Is it different in the switch 2 version? I played on ps5.
>there are likely some other things but it's been forever since i've played fes,
I played FES again a month before the remake came out.

>>730637620
>Motorcycle
He fucking deserved it. First of all calling a moped a motorcycle outs you as a faggot. It's technically correct but you're still wrong.

>>730641545
maybe muffled was the wrong word, but the new songs lack a lot of the punch the original tracks had with the instrumentation
compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoVn6Eh6rus
to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoVn6Eh6rus
most of, if not all, of the remixed songs are like this
interestingly the new to reload songs are not like that at all and sound pretty good (and dare i say fit p3 almost perfectly)

>>730641713
Bruh...

>>730641545
>You can say they're slightly different
they're worse in my opinion. calling them butchered works for me
there are things reload does better, like the gameplay, but if you're going to pretend it does nothing worse you aren't worth conversating with. just compare the first cutscene on a new game, or the persona awakening scene. subtlety was completely thrown out of the window, which was part of P3's identity.

>>730641545
>>730641275
Persona 3 never had any atmosphere
It tried so hard to force the message that time is limited and life can just end, but then in the end it gave protag extended time just so he could finish everything he wanted and fulfill promise with his fag friends.
No other persona game butchered it's own themes so hard. Even p5 for all it's faults still kept forcing "you are never at fault, blame someone else" message, with phantom thieves literally blame people of tokyo at the end for their own hubris.

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>>730641713
>link of song
vs
>exactly same link of song
is this some sort of bait? false flagging? or mental retardation?

>>730637620
Being a fatass is a choice. It is literally a character flaw that reflects who someone is.

>>730641989
>he doesn't have an ear for music
ngmi

>>730641926
>No other persona game butchered it's own themes so hard
>but then in the end it gave protag extended time just so he could finish everything he wanted and fulfill promise with his fag friends
so the game "butchered its own themes so hard" because you get an extra month at the end of the game to do stuff before you die? you gotta have something better than that anon
even if i were to grant you that that's bad, you realize every character in the party deals with loss/grief right? not just the protagonist

>>730641713
>>730641989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOIeJ5DcLQc
compare this to the original
it's flat as fuck

>>730642179
Jesus that's worse than I was expecting. And there was actually people on this board defending the remixed tracks, I heard Memories of the School and Moons Reaching Stars and decided against playing it entirely. SMT games live and die by their soundtracks, it's not looking good for the 4 remake

>>730642115
>so the game "butchered its own themes so hard" because you get an extra month at the end of the game to do stuff before you die?
...yes?
For every character death is aburt, but because protag is super special mary sue who should be exception, he got an extension.
Imagine if Mitsuru got month more with her father being fully normal after being shot?
Or Akiho and his hobo friend and shota having one more month to bond after hobo got shot?

P3 literally screams in your face "you are exception, even our main theme doesn't extend on you, just do whatever you want you are the hero!"
>even if i were to grant you that that's bad, you realize every character in the party deals with loss/grief right?
Has nothing to do with game butchering it's own main theme just to pander otakus
> not just the protagonist
He's literally featuress protagonsit and doesn't deal with anything through game

I wonder how they'll fuck up Reach Out to the Truth. Ignoring the shittier vocals, Reload made that weird BOWOWOWOWOW synth thing stupidly loud in the new arrangement to the point that it's annoying.

>>730638604
Seek help /pol/nigger

>>730642284
modding p3r is pretty much mandatory for a returning player to enjoy it
the old tracks enhance the experience so much more than they really should, and even some of the new tracks compliment them like the ambush and city at night

>>730638604
Your victim complex is larger than the bitch in OP's image.

>>730642351
>because protag is super special mary sue who should be exception
Yes, you are the only character to get the wild card. You are special, very typical of JRPGs, no video games in general actually. Was this your first one?
>you are exception, even our main theme doesn't extend on you, just do whatever you want you are the hero!
You are even special amongst Persona protagonists! You get the universe arcana and get to seal away death itself. It's pretty awesome anon

>>730642480
wild card just means that you are sociopath who can put whatever mask/facade you want and have no convictions, doesn't really make you special or anything

>>730642480
door being extra special is fine because he dies at the end
he doesn't get the super special power up boost for free

>>730637620
would

>>730642543
how the wildcard works has never been super clear
while yes the main protagonists can be seen as sociopathic (especially p3mc), there have been a couple other characters who get the wildcard who have a defined personality, like aigis, akechi, and the p4au guy
although 2/3 of them were psychopaths and the other is a killbot with a conscious

>>730641275
All of this was already butchered in the Golden port and 99% of people don't care

>>730642480
>Yes, you are the only character to get the wild card. You are special, very typical of JRPGs, no video games in general actually
So, for example in persona 4 it would be fine for protagonists to stop seeking out the truth after first, easy answer(killer is mailman), just because protagonist is special and got wild card?
What a retarded fucking logic, you have a theme, stick up to it, instead of pussying out just for the sake of pandering some coomers.

>>730642746
>persona 4 it would be fine for protagonists to stop seeking out the truth after first
What the fuck are you talking about? You were making a big whoop about the MC being special. I said yes true, he is special for many reasons. You were claiming the theme of Persona 3 is that death is inevitable, and guess what? The MC inevitably died. The way he died doesn't contradict the theme of the game at all, you just don't like how it happened (really you don't care, you're just grasping at straws to shit on the game) Really the game never even says the MC will die when he seals away Nyx, it just kind of happens. Why would it have to be instant anyway? Door was being drained of his energy until he couldn't keep going on, there's nothing wrong with that at all.

>>730640208
>you'll notice it in Digimon as well
don't get me started
>dialogue says kare
>subtitle says they
I fucking hate it to no end. fuck pozcalizers

>>730637620
>Ugly people are selfish assholes.
Fat people definitely are. If they weren't then they wouldn't be fat.

>>730643252
They're selfish assholes if they're still expecting to be treated with dignity and respect while being unwilling to do the bare minimum to not be planetoids. If they've even given up on that then they're just pathetic, not cunts.

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>>730643084
>it's okay to be exception of theme of the story if you are the protagonist, nothing wrong with that, but only in case of my first persona game, i love it, in any other game it would be wrong
Pathetic
>You were claiming the theme of Persona 3 is that death is inevitable
Nope, never did. Theme of the game is picrelated, which is very similar but there a clear difference between everyone dies in the end and "death won't fucking wait for Mitsuru's father to regret and talk with his daughter for two months after cosplaying Jesus on the cross".

I honestly don't know why do you need to cope so hard about the fact that yes, persona 3 did shit on it's own theme just for the sake of making protagonist even more special and pander creepy anime otakus

>>730643252
>>730643567
People who don't dress up properly or take care of themselves too

>>730643698
This is why schools need to have uniforms and minimum standards for hygiene and appearance.

>>730643085
They tecynically don't have genders who cares how the slant eyed gooks are dubbing their speech

>>730643579
>a single screenshot of the game tells you what the theme of the game is
Okay, the opening of the game literally bashes you over the head with memento mori, remember you will die in plain letters, multiple times. Death being an inevitability for all is the theme of the game, and this is represented in the opening and in every character arc in the game. But you have this one single screenshot so I guess I should take your word as gospel.
>death won't fucking wait for Mitsuru's father to regret and talk with his daughter for two months
You still have yet to explain why the way the MC died doesn't make any sense. The game never said that sealing Nyx will cause him to die, nor did it say that it would happen instantly. You just heard people praising the way P3 handles it's themes, and decided to conjure up something to complain about.
P3 is already a flawed game, you should focus on one of the issues it has that actually exists because trust me, the retarded shit you're saying isn't going to stick.

>>730643084
Look people who defend Persona 4's shit writing are retards who can't into logic and follow feelings. They are EXACTLY the kind of normie retards who unironically believe in
>>730637620
Without a hint of irony. Nuance and humanity is lost on them. Just stop trying to argue with them. We can either agree to disagree or combat by champion.

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>>730637620
>you're slightly different than society expects you to be? DISHONORABRU

>>730643942
>First line of the game is literally about how time won't fucking wait for you or anyone else
>Entire game is about it
>How does mc being exception and time waiting for him to finish all his promises ruins theme? you just projecting and hate p3 because anime kids loved it
Holy shit, you must be trolling, no one can be THAT retarded

>>730642746
>in persona 4 it would be fine for protagonists to stop seeking out the truth
how come the p4 protagonists never sought out the truth of how nanako magically revived herself? they care so much about truth yet they didn't care to find out why this happened. this scene completely butchered the themes of the game!

>>730644156
teddie found a revive bead for her when he was walking down the lonely road that he only notices in timelines where you don't throw the delivery guy into the tv
that's the truth of her survival

>>730638604
Appearance does have bearing but like all things there are exceptions

>>730644074
>>First line of the game is literally about how time won't fucking wait for you or anyone else
Well actually the opening of the game would be before you even hit new game
Quotes from the opening
>Memento mori
>Remember your death
>Remember you will die
Going off your logic, since it's literally the first thing you see when you boot the game up and it's repeated multiple times, and it's also present throughout the entire game, that's actually the theme. Sorry but your screenshot is too many minutes in the experience for that to be the theme, I have to press multiple buttons and read multiple lines of text before I even see it

>>730644156
>why does person who represents justice arcana dies in the ending where you accept easy answer and allow "justice to die" and let killer get away, truly a mystery worth solving!

>>730637620
Based Bearzona 4 telling gamers how it is.

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>>730643906
>technically they don't have genders
paper-thin excuse to avoid having to loredump and delve into sexuality since it's not an adult show. given how often gender comes up (e.g. onsen scenes), you'd have to be either blind or retarded to believe it
>who cares
I do. stop ruining franchises I like you stupid rainbow-puking dumblrite faggot.

>>730644293
i said the protagonists, not the person controlling them
how would Yu be able to assume that based on knowledge of a bad end he never got? you didn't think this through did you

>>730637620
All true.
Persona 4 is still shit though.

>>730638604
Appearance is totally in tandem with personality. The way one wears themselves, body language, any modifications (like tattoos) and so on are derived from the personality of that person. The only things that don't, are effects of accidents (losing a leg for an example) or getting born without said leg. No, being a fatass is not something you're "born" with nor destined to become one, unless you're a literal retard with Prader-Willi Syndrome that feels the need to eat always, at all times because they never feel satiety.

>>730644450
it is, but it's also the best of the 3

>>730644595
>le persona started at 3 xD

>>730641206
Good thing I only ever played undub for P3, P4 and P4G. Dubfags should die. I understand that there's the issue of text remaining, but it really isn't bad, at least compared to nowadays "translations", plus you can hear the original voices and derive the true meaning.

>>730644630
it's a natural dividing line

>>730644646
>Dubfags should die
If you were around at launch and didn't know Japanese you kind of didn't have a choice
I'm sick of you fucking faggots that got into the series in 2020 coming at us who played the dub for P3 and P4 as if we had these options in the first place.
Also as someone who exclusively watches anime subbed, the P3 and P4 dubs are not bad. P3R is a different story

>>730644776
p3r's dub isn't that bad for the most part
it's biggest problem, which honestly is pretty bad, is that a number of the more emotional scenes are a downgrade from the original
the rest of it is fine though, i know it's a cheap shot to complain about the original dub fuuka but she's so much better in reload
i will say though that in my head all the other characters still have the original voice though, but that's more so due to me playing fes a number of times throughout the years

fat women should be skinned alive and have their organs harvested for consumption.

>>730644996
>p3r's dub isn't that bad
>a number of the more emotional scenes are a downgrade from the original
that's a pretty big issue anon, those are the best moments in the game