Why would I play a less complete version of the game I already own.

I'm gonna wait two years until it's playable, for now, EU4 M&T it is.

Because it's EU4 with far fewer features and mods.

Paradox's policy of releasing 300 trillions dlc is fucking their new releases in the ass because people know that they're going to sell basic features later down the line as >>730642851 said. And then retards will buy said dlc and probably write a negative review about it.
>t. have a friend that does that.

in typical modern paradox fashion half the things in the game dont even work and its lacking shit tons of flavor
itll be years before the game is playable

>>730643067
It took them a month to patch the Sengoku Jidai start. After that I just stopped playing, I'll pick it back up in 2028 after M&T shake it up

>they're just going to go back to making EU4 DLC

>>730642713
As someone who was vey much looking forward to all the systems in EU5 as soon as I played it I realised.
>The gameplay is cookie clicker
>Too easy to expand
>Too early start date
>Nations lack national ideas

EU4 is nearly perfect because it's still very much a game. You know the rules, and you know the different powers different nations have. EU5 is UI within UI and no noticeable difference between nations.

>>730642713
Because it is inferior in every way to the game that preceded it, and even with DLC, always will be.

>>730642713
Announcing exactly what DLCs will be released in a 2 year future roadmap as the vanilla game was released

>>730642713
The foundations are solid, but they built a 1 bed 1 bath apartment and expect me to move in when I already have a 6 bed 4 bath dreamhome next door that Im comfortable with and have been living in for 12 years.

Maybe I'll visit in a year when they get the gas and lights turned on, but im not moving in anytime soon.

>>730644435
>The foundations are solid
Everyone was saying that about CK3 and how's that turned out?

>>730644641
They built an asmument park instead of a house.

>>730642713
It's their most ambitious game yet but unfortunately in Paradox fashion is sorely undercooked and unpolished

>>730642713
Needed another year (or 6) in the oven.

>>730644732
an amusement park where everything is boring and there are less sruff to do than the house you've lived in previously.
but at least it looks (kinda) nice! (i guess)

>>730642713
It's a paradox game, people played the paid demo and return half a decade later when it's at least 2/3 complete.

everything about colonies fucking suck in this game and is way too ahistorical
the ai shouldn't have more pops in the new world than europe in fucking 1550

Because nu-paradox games suck ass
Vicky 3 sucks, Crusader kings 3 sucks and Europa Universalis 5 sucks

>>730642713
my PC is too shit to play it

>>730642713
kek johan will get sacked soon

Every country feels the same
The "flavor" consists of 3 events that you will never fire because you played too well and a few unique advances that you unlock in the 1700s
Thank you Johan very cool

They needed to fix the game's foundation and not make autistic STOP IT STOP THAT RIGHT FUCKING NOW STOP THAT YOU CAN'T PLAY THE GAME LIKE THAT balance changes like a spastic.

>>730642713
>Why did the latest iteration of the clausewitz engine, with a middle ages skin UI, whick lacks 80% of the content the previous iteration had (which will be sold as dlc later) flop?

>>730642713
the new internal systems: trade, economy and population are good, but everything else is either absent or a heavy downgrade from EU4.
Very little flavor, missing QoL features EU4 had for years, haphazard balancing changes, downright broken mechanics like Nahua doom.
1.1 had better be great and they had better keep the content train rolling. If they just do nothing for a long time like they did with CK3 and Vic3, this game will never replace EU4.

>>730642713
These 6k players are going to be milked dry with 500$ of DLCs. It would have the same profits than a 40$ game that sold 20 times more than this.

I am getting filtered by HoI4. I just can't win.

>>730642713
People on Windows can't play Paradox games anymore because of the Windows bug that causes their PCs to freeze and explode.

>>730642713
>ZERO flavor between nations, playing as goatfuckers in bumfuckistan is exactly the same as SACRVM IMPERIVM ROMANVM
>building chains, RGOs and pops a la Vicky in pre-industrial society
>due to control fucking you over, the best course of action is to do nothing for 300 years and just spam buildings (or if you must expand, do it through vassals)
>random countries putting colonies everywhere, even worse than EU4 because everyone can do it instead of requiring you to pick relevant ideas
>combat system, both land and naval is simply retarded
>trade is incredibly annoying once you expand into more than a couple markets
EU4 worked so well because in it's essence, it was a board game
EU5 is a simulator, and their last foray into it (Vicky3) was an unmitigated disaster