Talk me out of getting an OLED gaming monitor, /v/. They're so fucking expensive. The cheapest ones I can find around me are $700-$800, and I'd rather not order one online.
Ah, I used a shitty opening image. This one is better.
>>730643907You won't notice much of a difference.
Just wait for a 2000 zone mini led
>>730643907theyre a must own nowadays. but you can also get an oled tv/laptop and get 2 birds with 1 stone if you have need for one of those.
>>730643907Get an lg c2 or c3 and have it double as your tv and get a nice swivel mount for it
>>730643907Why would I talk you out of it, literally all good monitors are OLED nowadays, they don't even make good IPS monitors anymore
>>730643907If it's not RGB then don't bother.
*burns in*
>>730643907>I'd rather not order one onlineWhy not? I don't have a PC, but I wanted to convert to using a monitor rather than a fuckhuge television for space and performance/quality. I went with the ASUS ROG Strix 27" (XG27AQDMG). It was like $550. Had it a few months now, no complaints.Not sure where people are getting $800 price tags from, unless you're talking about 30"-40" screen sizes. 27" is already ridiculous when you're sitting in a chair right infront of it. If you're planning on leaning back or sitting a good bit away, then you want a TV, or a curved monitor/dual setup.>tl;drJust buy one you stupid nigger. Stop overthinking it. Look at the last "generation" models and order it online like a normal person you fucking lunatic. Have it saved for pickup at a store or held at a UPS/Fedex store.
>>730643907lol wut I bought pretty much that same one last year for like 300 bux
>>730643907OLEDs slowly get dimmer over time as you use them. It's fine if you replace your monitor after several years but if you keep your monitor for longer than that then it's not worth it.
Don't do it. I got one and now my second monitor looks awful. It looks so good that it just ruins things for you.
>>730643907Pulsar is the new hot shit, OLED is redundant
>>730643907I don't care what bad choices you make with your money. It's your bed that you get to sleep in.
>>730644607I got one but 30% brightness is bright enough for meIt should last at least 5 years
>>730644894>tfw bought a monitor before a bed frame and have been sleeping on a mattress on the floor for the last 15 years
>>730644729Motion clarity is memeMotion blur is a normal thing we all see and trying to eradicate it from monitors just makes it look jarring
>>730644729>PulsarI wonder if this will come to OLED panels. Might be worth waiting
>>730644729>Sync garbageI have v/gsync always disabledSo I dont need this new gimmick either
>>730643907why would you buy a more expensive monitor just to make text look worse and to babysit?
>>730645089I use my computer for games and movies, not reading books
black already looks very black on my IPS monitorI think oled black levels are a meme for normalfags who play nothing but horror games and movies
>>730645117>the foid of furniturebased
>>730643907hey bros i have a question, if i have a high refresh rate monitor like 144hz does running my monitor on higher refresh rate make thing better if all the games i play are pretty much locked to 60fps?i have heard higher refresh rate only makes a difference if the game also run at higher fps.
>>730643907ips monitor and oled tv is the way
>>730643907You won't notice a difference compared to a high quality IPS in terms of contrast. Latency either. What you might notice is motion clarity at extremely high framerates, but that's only if you're an autist that want's to run old games at 360hz with real frames (like me).Newer games don't really benefit from an OLED and all the shills saying that ugly washed out modern games are magically fixed with HDR on an OLED are liars, they look just as shit as they did on my old IPS.Also something to note it that text looks fucked up on a 1440p OLED because Windows wasn't designed for an OLED's subpixel layout.Also don't bother with the latest greatest, pic related was over £900 when I bought it, but went down by 50% in a year.I bought it for DD2, I'm still made about that game.
>>730643907Your taskbar will get burnt into the screen.
>>730645514that's not true on newer oleds also you can just hide your taskbar dumbass
>>730645363less jittery since it doesn't have to wait as long if a frame is late
>>730645550I think I'll just get a monitor which doesn't fuck my ux thanks
>>730643907>>730643943things gonna get nasty in a few yearsmy IPS still has the same quality it had 6 years agodifference aint as big as the comparison makes you think
>>730645532most of my time is spent playing arcade games (fightcade) windows mouse does feel better but i still lock my monitor to 60hz, because one time i played the game i usually play on 144hz i couldn't see any difference, and fightcade now also has option to play the game on original refresh rate instead of locking to 60hz, so i am not even sure if its worth the power.will check out lossless scaling, didn't even know something like this existed.
>>730643907Not worth it for gaming. You truly won't notice a difference. OLED shills are just the new Audiophiles
>>730645734I'd figure most fighting game shit is standardized so maybe you'd want to stay locked to 60fps anyways for competitive purposes.But yeah your screen at 144hz is I figure using essentially double power, since it's refreshing 144 times a second, vs 60, while the game and gpu are displaying only 60 frames in a second.It's a real beauty to play something at 144 vs 60 though. Everything actually starts looking life-like in terms of motion.
>>730645972yeah definitely, screen feels really smooth, the only game i got to play with higher refresh rate was assassin's creed syndicate, it was cool but i dropped it, not really my thing, other games that support higher refresh rate, i am scared to play them on higher than 60 fps, (i play on gamin laptop)
>>730646068Yeah on a laptop that you're not too confident in, i'd avoid it for the sake of components not overheating jej
>>730643907Yeah, if you can get a good deal on one with good specs like your image, and by the time it shits the bed you can either RMA with the 3 year warranty they all usually provide or possibly grab a microLED since that shit's on the horizon and might be out by then.
Will risk of burn in ever be fully eliminated from OLED displays?
>>730646845Probably not, but in the future we'll have microLED screens so it won't matter. OLEDs are the Plasmas of the 2020s.
>>730644729OLED shills hated him for telling the truth
>>730644729>JewVidia PulSARR>Claims to improve motion clarity>Has literally no impact on the IPS panels grey-to-grey pixel response timeDo we really live in the age of fake motion clarity now too? Are we supposed to pretend the pixel transition is faster even though it isn't simply because a meme motion clarity number goes up? Does EVERYTHING have to be fake and gay?
>>730648259it hasn't even released and the public have yet to lay eyes on it , yet you know all about it and how bad it will be.
Currently have 7800 hours on my LG oled monitor. Gonna get another one when 4K tandem oleds come out. Poors are gonna poor with shitty burn in boogeyman
>>730648259It's demonstrably better than other strobing techniques or BFI, as well as far more convenient as it plays nicely with VRR. Hopefully it will make it to OLED.Obviously it sucks that it's restricted to nvidia cards but I imagine it will eventually become part of HDMI/DP display standards.
>>730648412>Gonna get another one when 4K tandem oleds come outSadly those aren't even announced.
>>730648412OLED made me realize that every monitor I used before had the wrong colors for everything. By a massive margin. It's like night and day
>>730644425Shut the fuck up faggot
>>730644425Keep talking straight man
>>730648638Announced at CES. LG UltraGear 32GX870B and others
>>730645550Why the fuck would I want to change what I do for a monitor. No thanks my task bar ain't going anywhere
>>730648713Can you elaborate
>>730648790I don't know I just wanted to say it
>>730648782I don't know how I missed that one.Maybe because of the focus on RGB stripe WOLEDs this year.
>>730643907OLED sounds great, but it isn't good for gaming. They're trying to lure you in with some perceived new tier of quality, but do you need it to play league or dwarf fortress or whatever the fuck your autistic ass wastes tens of thousands of hours on. Some crap like poe 2 or cs 2.Well, OLED needs to rest or/and it will burn the fucking pixels and become shit. How well does OLEDs idea of rest for 5 minutes every few hours tie into your 16 hour non stop gaming sessions?Besides aren't you watching anime on the second big ass 4k screen while pressing one or two buttons during grind in OSRS or something?TL;DR: OLED only looks good in an ad with a normie who plays an hour a week and didn't even have 3 screens. It's overpriced and impractical.
>>730649025>OLED stops you from playing league of slop for thousands of hoursHoly based
Get it you wont regret it
>perfect blacks dude! >nobody tells you about the noticeable lines on greys Fuck you all
>>730645750Yes you fucking can retard. Now maybe not for multiplayer titles but if you play mmos or single players you will definitely see the difference
I just bought this monitorDid I fuck up?
>>730649508What the fuck does your retarded post even mean? Why are all the shills so fucking braindead?Besides, if somebody is a sweaty gamer aiming at his personal performance, all of the graphics in the games are set to fucking minimum. Because we need worthless deco on the screen.
>>730643907qdel is right around the corner.no burn ins, cheaper, looks better
Would 4k really be that big of an upgrade? >>730649025Gotta take tendie breaks sometimes.
>>730649572bro that's like 3 hours of work who cares
>>730649572Gsync/freesync and at least 144hz are the main things that matter. I much prefer 1440p to 1080p but if your GPU isn't great it's probably better to run games at 1080p instead.
>>730643907https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEgQrigiLcNoticable burn-in after 6 months of using it for productivity tasks for 8 hours a day.You will HAVE to run compensation cycles every 4 hours while using the monitor.Your monitor will shift pixels slightly from time to time to reduce burn-in.You must use it in a dark room because OLEDs struggle to achieve brightness above 400 nits, and high brightness significantly increases the risk of burn-in.
>>730649813I only have a steam deck and a switch 21440p would just be a waste and make everything scale like shit on the screen wouldn't it
>>730649835Forgot to mention that oleds get incredibly fucking hot and text rendering is dogshit.
>>730643907Go a month or two without buying unnecessary things, then buy your OLED monitor to pair with your main monitor, so you can use it for audio visual media, while using your main monitor for browsing the Internet, work, etc.OLED monitors are far superior for displaying various types of media. Not wanting a good monitor for your PC is like having a sports car but not wanting to put good tires on it.Note: there is now this new g-sync technology that gives monitors good motion picture quality for the first time since CRTs, so it might be best to do some research on this new technology before buying now, because motion quality is still an issue today, even on OLEDs.
>>730649835400 nits is more than bright enough for your average room. You only need more for HDR.
>>730643907You are right, wait for a sale and buy one for 500.
>>730649905>1440p would just be a waste and make everything scale like shit on the screen wouldn't itYes. When I bought a 1440p monitor to replace my 1080p, Switch 1 games looked so awful that I stopped using it docked. It's funny because 1440p is twice 720p, so theoretically at least, games that run at 720p on the Switch should look identical to 1440p, but unfortunately the upscaling isn't done intelligently and algorithms filter the original image and everything gets blurrier and fucked up.Even on a PC, 720p doesn't upscale correctly to 1440p, unless you can configure your GPU's control panel, but guess what, there are several obstacles to using a scaling that maintains pixel integrity. My PC, for example, simply doesn't accept the option, and I don't even know why.
>>730645054We all see it but persistence blur is unnatural to witness in motion.
>>730643907you have to do pixel refresh every 4 hours.
>>730645057Pulsar is just backlight strobing to combat the slow as fuck backlight response times in lcds. Oleds do not have backlights as they are self emissive and respond near instantly so it isn't needed.
>>730643907okyou should wait for gsync pulsar ones, allegedly it's the most game-changing tech and basically brings motion clarity on the level of CRT's
>>730649653Just two more years for real this time.
>>730650506Persistence blur is still a thing
>>730650184>OLED monitors are far superior for displaying various types of media.AI generated sentence
>>730650543That is why the main advocate for motion clarity (ufo man) wants screens to be hitting 1000hz to overcome that.
>>730650506OLED still suffers from sample and hold blur just like LCDs. I know Pulsar works by strobing the backlight but maybe it's possible to achieve the same effect on OLEDs, but I dunno enough about how that shit works.
>>730650367Did you buy the cheapest possible monitor available? I had no issues with the switch on a 1440p monitor
>>730650672He's not talking bull, the game is upsampled two times and it looks blurry as shit.
>>730648696color accuracy has nothing to do with whether a screen is OLED or LCD, retard-kun
>>730643907>They're so fucking expensive.If it's too expensive, get something you can afford. You can buy an OLED monitor later.
>>730650885Yeah, colors on an LCD can be just as good as OLED just so long as that color isn't black.
>>730645693I have both an IPS and a fourth gen QD-OLED screen. The difference is otherwordly. Stop being a fag. My IPS screen from 2015 has had image retention and some damaged pixels since 2020. I upgraded in November last year.
>>730649913My PG32UCDM is completely cool at all times.
>>730650748I played on 1080p even when the scaling factor is some decimal shit and at least on my monitor it looked alright. Doesn't really matter now anymore cause switch 2 can do 1440p
>>730651062Black doesn't NEED to start at zero, 20 is fine okay!?
>>730648696oleds often have wrong colors and a red tint
>>730649913>text rendering is dogshit.>windows has 98% of the market>dosnt support oled text rendering>somehow updates every second day with random crap nobody needsfucking hilarious
>>730643907Burn inOnly buy oled if you:>will cripple your usage (you will care more about preserving your monitor than play games or work on it) >have the disposable income to buy one every 2 years if you ignore the above (at least you'll make green faggots seethe)There is no good display technology. Every single one of them is a scam but oled is the biggest one
>>730651973Can confirm this is a Windows issue. Text looks completely fine on my 1440p OLED from my Macbook and Steamdeck.On Windows it looks just as shit as it did when I bought it.
>>730645060Oh, so you're retarded.Checked.
>>730651775>t. runs DCI-P3 gamut unclamped for srgb contentactual PEBKAC
>>730645057NeverOLEDs cannot do the same trick
>>730652245windows cleartype cant handle oledsim not sure anybody can explain why, but im guessing just lack of copetition, they will never work on anything that wont make them money, thats why data scraping with AI seems what m$ focuses on fully with win 11
OLED is best for watching unsubbed movies. Otherwise get a good IPS miniled with decent FALD.
>>730652430OLEDs might not have a backlight but why can't you do a similar scanning pulse of the pixels themselves?
>>730652425what? i mean that the way oled panels are made the coating has a tint to it, the panel itself can probably do perfect color reproduction, correcting with color balance dosnt work since it wont affect reflected lightit has nothing to do with the color gamut of the display
>>730652895The problem is timing the pulse with a varied framerateBlurbuster guy had a quick calculation that 1440hz OLED could be fast enough to do the same
saars i buying lg oled... it is very beaitfal for gorgious good looksand there is no burn in ! they have fixed itMrmmm yes saar *bobbles head gayly*
I found a good video showing this "Pulsar" technology. The guys at Shittygital Foundry, as usual, didn't show ANYTHING, they just talked shit like in all their other videos.https://youtu.be/d6-EQoCJVFk?si=N8TRhqSM_fejGRrk&t=451
>>730654732
>>730654732But they had footage from retro games in the video?
According to recent tests OLEDs last longer then new LCDs.You would be stupid to not buy oneMake sure to get a glossy one>>730645750>>730645693cuckoldslcds die faster and look worse then even burned in oleds lolPeople keep forgetting burn in isnt the end of the world, unless you go looking for it with test patterns youd hardly notice moderate burn>>730654584if you cant afford an OLED, stick with an older LCD from the used marketif you buy a brand new lcd you are just retardedget a 20$ facebook marketplace lcd if you dont trust OLED
>>730655336if you are making more money than me you are doing really well. but if you are wasting it buying products that degrade on use you are retarded.
>>730655336KYS shill. Die
>>730655503Every display degrades with use.RTings is running long term testing and LCD backlights are burning out faster then OLEDs making the entire display useless compared to OLED burn in which doesnt even make the display unusableHave you ever repaired anything on a display?I haveAs I said, nothing wrong with sticking with old monitorsBut if you are gonna spend the money on a new monitor, not buying the best tech available is just stupidAt that point why even buy a new monitor?
>>730654809lmao what game even runs at 100+ fps today
>>730655724Use frame gen :)
>>730655679nowhere near the extent that oled degrades, which is so bad its actually extremely noticeable.oled is not the best available tech, its green tech. they push it so hard and its subsidized very hard by governments because it has much lower emissions to produce.sure for about 1 whole year its decent but it burns in and then you have a fucked up looking display. congratulations ranjeet. theres no greater joy in life than frivolous purchases and having sex with cows
>>730643907Does your current monitor work? Then don't get one, faggot. Also, unlike monitors from 20 years ago, modern monitors have an average lifespan of like 3 years. It's fucking ridiculous.
>>730655724the question is why are you playing modern games lol
>>730655679>check the article >it's a about TVs>ultra tin ones burned out faster
>>730643907Just don't do it. OLED is KINO (especially if you have strobing/black frame insertion modes), but ONLY as a second monitor/TV you keep exclusively for games and movies. It's a luxury. Your monitor is not a luxury, it should be here to last, which, as much as I belive the memes about burn-in are grossly overrated, it's still real and on windows shit will burn 100% unless you babysit it, which you don't want to do.If you have that much money to burn on a monitor, consider the Pulsar monitor instead. They easily beat nearly every single Oled monitor in term of motion clarity, and motion clarity is the number 1 think that matters for games.
>>730655945>which is so bad its actually extremely noticeable.My oled tv is 5 years old and there's still not burn-in.
>>730655945The absolute seethe of someone who never had anything niceLet me guess, you also didnt have a Plasma TV because of burn in?You are aware LCD is so shit that people bought 500 watt housefire displays that could also burn in instead of LCD trash?I have a 15 year old galaxy s3, no burn inYou are afraid of OLED?Get a used monitorNew lcds are a waste of money>>730655662>shillI am shilling used monitors.If you have a problem with buying used, go suck a corporate dick>>730655989thisnew lcds suck just as much or worse
>>730655679Holy shit die
>>730656082why woyuld i need to play old games at insane freamerates?i always lock to 60 even if i have overhead, then my cpu and gpu dosnt get stressed
>>730656235i can only speak for the monitors. those burn in. theyre dim as fuck and touching the brightness will make them burn in extremely quick. oled is not nice, its a scam. its like buying a car that has reliability issues and will break down at 100k miles even if you do everything correct.
>>730656272>ludite cuck just dismiss the truth xe can't handleyou die first you retard.
>>730643907Only get one if it's an ultrawide. Otherwise a 55" 4K OLED minimum should be your priority.
>>730656272I wish someone would pay me for suggesting people dont waste their money on new trash>>730657512I have yet to meet someone who regrets buying an OLED I dont have one myself though because my Plasma TV still works and I use CRTs as PC monitors>dimWhat do you have to gain by making up such lies?OLED is absurdly bright ive seen them in person
>>730657512All displays fails for different reasons though, and according to Rting's massive testing, OLEDs are just as reliable as everything else though in reality they're far less prone to failure than every other panel types.
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>>730657512>theyre dim as fuckAre they really, in reality?They aren't so dim anymore. SDR brightness is less than other panel types, but it's only a 100nit difference in SDR, but other panel types also don't have perfect blacks, so perceptually speaking they feel like they have the same brightness since the contrast is infinitely higher. And if you like BRIGHT AF content, then you'll want to play in HDR.. which is a thousand times better on OLED anyway. You don't even want to run an IPS that bright in either SDR or HDR because they'll glow like crazy anyway.Not to mention that having 400nits in SDR is pointless, you don't get additional details from this, but in HDR you will and oleds will deliver on that.Burn in is a thing, but it depends on the content, not the amount of time they're on, on average, that's why there are 10k hours old Oled TVs that don't have any issues. I don't like oleds for productivity because of this, but as a dedicated content consumption screen they'll never have a problem so easily.
>>730657920It's over for anti-oled pajeetsBut I still prefer Pulsar now.
>>730657920never had "failure" on a tn panel lolthe burn in i got with oled was so fast and extraordinarily noticeablybut im done arguing with someone paid to post about this now
>>730658318uhh yeah they are. you can go to bestbuy and even in their dim ass little section where they show the displays they are dialed really low. or at least the ones in my area are. they dont turn the display models brightness up for some reason here, they just leave it on default which is super dark.but you can go ahead and fuck with the brightness on it and increase the burn in speed by 3x.its very strange the OLEd shilling model here is to just blatantly lie about stuff like people arent gonna notice when they buy one.
SDR content is mastered for 80-120nits fyi
>>730657920>>730658519>rtingslmao known oled shills, next you'' cite monitors unboxed rofl
>>730658519>thread about gaming monitors>data from TV test
>>730650446Every OLED monitor is set to do it automatically out of the box while on standby/low consumption mode, you don't actually have to do it while playing it, even if you play for 4+ hours.People over-emphasize dead pixels and screen burn-in. That shit only happens to NEETs who binge all night and pass out with their monitors on a home screen, leaving it idle on the same pixels while they hibernate for 12 hours.They deserve to have to replace their shit consantly.
/v/, recommend me an OLED monitor from 2025/2024 or releasing this year. My budget it $700-1100, going to get one for my birthday or earlier. Preferably LG but I'm open to other brands.
>>730661209oled pixels are magically different when used on a small screen
>>730658318>400nits in SDR is pointless, you don't get additional details from thisholy oled coper
>>730643907the only issue I have with mine (AW3225QF) is it's very annoying to clean.
>>730663042That and srgb mode is tuned to piecewise and not gamma 2.2.
>>730662338It makes a difference for regular LCDs so claiming OLEDs last longer cause some extra slim edge lightened 50" IPS burn out faster is dishonest.
>>730663215What settings do you use ?I tried setting mine to something custom but can't get a better result than the default
>>730663518Standard with windows ACM turned on gets it correct. Standard is just full wide gamut with 2.2 and ACM is just an srgb clamp.Now the difference between creator srgb in the monitor and standard with ACM isn't massive but it is noticeable for those few grey shades where piecewise deviates.
>>730664021Thanks, I wasn't even aware of that option
>>730664237ACM has a lot of misinformation about it online and (iirc) it does rely on reading your monitors EDID so if it has fucked colours baked into that (which the AWE3225QF does not - all these recent oled monitors are very accurate) ACM will give bad results.
>>730643907>Talk me out of getting an OLED gaming monitorThere's no way to convince a retard to change their mind. Just buy it and learn to cope with the eventual burn in and constant baby sitting you're going to have to with it.
Once you go oled you never go back.
>>730661662>recentIf you want actually good OLED then you need ancient LG C1 tv. Reason is brightness, in early models brightness wasn't locked. Either way avoid buying OLED monitors and look for TV to use as monitor because TV on average have higher brightness than monitors and brightness is everything.
>>730666432> brightness is everything.That is why volumetric collapse caused by the white subpixel in woled is a myth spread by HATER and likely SAMSUNG SHILLS.
>>730661187Maximum cope
>>730660871>uhh yeah they are.You can check the numbers, retard.
it's so funny seeing people shit their diaper over having to run a built-in pixel cleaning utility that takes 5 minutesnoooooooooooooooo I can't believe I have to click 3 buttons!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>730667073cool advertisement infographic but ive used one and seen them at the storeif you TRUST LE SCIENCE you should never get burn in because some youtuber was paid to do a fake test with some equipment that proves it doesnt happen. yet they still burn in. weird huh?
>>730666432I don't like HDMI so TVs are a no go for me. Also don't want to get an older OLED screen because the burn-in is probably way worse than the more recent ones.
>>730643907I got a Samsung G8 4k 240 hz 32"No regrets felt like I had been color blind my whole life till then.An NVIDIA card is a must for RTX HDR, which adds HDR to games that don't natively support it and often looks better than most native implementations.
>>730667636>probably way worseYes, that's why brightness is locked now. Bright shit kill organic pixel extremely fast but if picture isn't bright it will look bad, one way to cope is so sit in dark room but this isn't healthy for you at all, this is sure way to end up with mental illness, depression.
>>730667389Ok, I use one too? I still think it's bright enough especially in HDR. deep blacks is a huge deal that ips can't do and they need to be much more bright comparatively, and they can't do good HDR anyway. It's true that in SDR they'll look dimmer but you don't need 300+ nits in SDR unless you live in the sun.
>>730667784RenoDX is much better than RTX hdr, fyi.
>>730668480>reshade mod meh, I thought it's something actually good
>>730645750No, that's not true, there's a big difference. The question is if it's worth it due to the drawbacks.
>>730669602It's NOT just reshade, it use reshade as a platform to actually rewrite the shaders to output real HDR out of the game. It's actually RTX HDR that's just a reshade filter. RenoDX is better than actual native HDR from games because they can also fix the fault in their implementation, on top of making HDR modes from scratch.
>>730670615I appreciate you trying to spread the good word that inverse tone-mapping is not actual HDR.This branding is a clusterfuck.
>>730670615>maybe I should give it a chance>open reshade website to download tool>see pic related>close tabYeah, nah, I'm good.
>>730644059They do. Expect to pay 2000 usd
>>730661187Seriously how in the fuck does this get a 9.9 rated response time when it's blurrier than a a $200 TN panel from a decade ago? My monitor from 10 years ago is clearer than this shit.
>>730650539the fuck are you on retard, the technology was only announced last year
>>730672656>when it's blurrier than a a $200 TN panel from a decade ago?
>>730643907CES just showed a bunch of amazing miniLED and IPS monitors that will come out in 2026. There's not really any point in getting an OLED right now, since the good miniLEDs can replicate 99% of the OLED colors, even in a fully bright room, and the new IPS monitors with stuff like Gsync Pulsar have the smoothness and clarity of a 1500hz OLED, while only running at 360hz.
I need to give deus ex mankind divided a go with renoDX as I bet it really pops, especially night time prague.
>>730674491>that will come out in 2026yeah, in china
Oleds are not meant for gaming and only retards use them as such. Do you use a tractor to enter the 24hr of le mans? No, don't be stupid.
>>730674864what are oleds for, then?
>>730674885They are designed primarily for short burst use case like phones and home TV usage where normal people only use them 3-4 hours a day.
>have OLED phone for 3 years now>no burn-in at allI was big against burn in when my experience with it was the Galaxy s3 and Galaxy S7, from 14 and 10 years ago respectively But yeah seems it's not a practical issue anymore after allMakes me wonder what else /v/ is lying and causing undue FUD about due to ignorance
>>730675968The only one lying is you.
oled shills you lie to your face and that mniLEDs have unforgivable blooming
>>730675968Now try playing the same game on your phone for 10 hours every day and then report back in a year from now.
>>730676615>just be a loser and report back
>>730677034>actually, OLED doesn't burn in if you don't use it!
>>730643907Burn-in after 6 months. Unusable garbage after 12 months. Meanwhile IPS with no dead pixels after 6 years.
>>730645660Why do you need taskbar up at all times? Do you forget what you have running?
>>730677621I forgot what I had for breakfast so I need my taskbar visible at all times.
>>730676615Well if the notification bar, chance UI, kiwi browser UI, keyboard, and bottom ui buttons haven't burned in I can't see what a game would doAnd why would I play the same game on my phone for 10 hours every day for a year. Why would I do that on any device? That isn't practical.
>>730649654At 27" not much but higher resolution does help in mp I find, but it's the same diminishing returns situation and 1440p is easier to run, but that resolution is not ideal on a 4k screen
>>730649913Your script is old marketer sama
>>730677809>And why would I play the same game on my phone for 10 hours every day for a year. Why would I do that on any device? That isn't practical.See >>730677501
There are literally no good monitors
>>730651062Wrong, it's more washed out due to the backlighting
>>730677501What do you want me to say? OLED will not burn in if you don't use it.
>>730643907it seems like monitor tech is advancing so fast atm that you just can't catch upjust a few years ago 32" 4k 144hz monitor was considered a very decent option the cheapest units (like gigabyte M32U) were sold for $600.Fast forward few years and they cost like 300 and no one wants them. I have a feeling that current oleds will be made obsolete just as fast. And unlike old gpus they are kind of hard to sell, esp on ebay.
>>730678132>it's more washed out due to the backlightingThe new RGB miniLEDs can have 100% 2020 Rec coverage. It's over for OLED.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuk6ohc3_vY
>>730677621the only reason not to run an application in full screen is if you're switching between multiple windows frequently
>>730671241KEK, fair enough.
>>730678375Sure glad I didn't wait to buy my c1 lol
>>730668281I don't really care but I personally prefer a dimly lit room and I use a light bar for my monitor. Unless the monitor is really that dim I don't really care since I usually lower the brightest a bit on these monitors. Also there are no ultrawide OLED TVs, so yea.
>>730678375>100% 2020 Rec coverage.WOW amazing! Now let's see the percentage of Rec 2020 colors used in actual HDR content:>1 to 2% at bestLol, lmao even. also shit motion clarity and they aren't pleasant to look at up close apparently, so it's not ideal for a monitor. No but better colors is still nice but I don't really care about HDR colors anymore considering how rare they are in games and these monitors really should have an sRGB switch too. You see a lot of shilling about QD OLED colors as well and I just don't buy it, it's really hard to get rec 2020 colors to show up in games in particular.
>>730679015>and I use a light bar for my monitorWhat kind of psychopath behavior is this?
>>730679139I want less clutter on my desk, got an issue with that? I also have it smart plugged so I can turn it off via voice. I have absolutely zero RGB on my PC case and peripherals though.
>>730679135>WOW amazing! Now let's see the percentage of Rec 2020 colors used in actual HDR content:Makes me wonder how many games even go to full dci-p3 for any shade.
>>730643907Get a ktc miniled for half the price of an oled
>>730680304>anon displays a single white pixel on a black background on their miniled
>>730643907>HDR 400Please for the love of god anyone reading this please go for an OLED that goes 1000 nits minimum
>>730682149It's a different scale for OLED FYI. It technically goes to 1000, but even 600 is almost unheard of, even top of the line monitors usually do 400
>>730680304>miniled
>>730682304oh my bad ty for the correction
>>730678274This is trueIt's why it doesn't matter if your OLED is .1 degree shade darker on the taskbar due to burnin in 5 years, because you will be able to buy a 5k RGB OLED that has twice the max brightness for half the price by then
>>730682393I'm also not saying OLED doesn't need to do 1000nits, but if that's what you're looking for then on oled the tech just isn't there yet
>>730681964This is true but this is why you aren't supposed to sit in dark room, in properly lit room it's fine.
>>730682346>retard can't set their camera up properly>"dude miniLED blooms like the fucking sun lmao"yeah, no way fag
>>730643907They have all the flaws of older tech (motion blur, input lag, burn in etc)but they also have new problems that are a real problem with gaming.ABL (Anti Brightness Limiting, a feature hard coded into OLEDs to stop burn in) cannot be disabled and it's really distracting when you start noticing it)VRR flickers really badThe Blue LED's degrade faster than the Red and Green ones, resulting in distorted coloursIf you want a model with a strobing backlight, it doubles the cost of the monitor and it doesn't even get rid of motion blur, it only reduces it slightly.The overall life span of OLEDs it';s pathetically short.Their cost is absurdly high,The only thing they have going for them is they display blacks properly, but Plasma did that 30 years ago, and nobody noticed for some stupid reason. Plasma also has zero motion blur making them the perfect display for gaming that we currently have.
>>730682346What >>730683009 saidand also the fact that solid black is extremely rare during actual gameplay, the only time I saw it was during loading screen for some games
>>730643907>LG cringe, Samsung or MSI
I just got a miniLED and it's been pretty good
>>730683235lmao OLED has magnitudes less blur and lag compared to LCD lolI like how the mere idea of there being an alternative to your poorfag TNshit that you can't afford sends you SEETHING
>>730645054Fast moving games look unbelievably amazing on a CRT/Plasma.A 60hz game running on CRT/Plasma looks faster, smoother and brighter than even a 240hz game running on an LCD or OLED. The motion blur destroys the image completely.
>>730683487>CRT/Plasma
>>730683284 Exactly this. People meme on miniLED blooming like they’re gaming in a pitch-black cave with a pure-white HUD on a black loading screen 24/7. In actual gameplay with motion and varied backgrounds, you'd be hard-pressed to spot any bloom unless you're actively trying to. And even then, it's barely there unless you're sitting inches from your screen like a goblin.
>>730683893miniLED is great when [used in highly contrived and specific scenario]
>>730684089the contrived circumstance is the only one where it isn't great
MiniLED monitorOLED TV
>>730684172why
>>730684278fixed ui elements and text rendering are much lesser concerns on a tv
>>730684278MiniLED is 90% good enough for gaming on a PC, but also has zero chance of burn in so you don't have to baby it when you aren't playing games.OLED for TV is fine because they're never as static as a PC desktop. I stream shit to my TV with Moonlight so I get the best of both worlds
>>730683893Because nobody ever has a night sky in a video game.
>>730684854Exactly. Muh night scenes is oled copers making up unrealistic situations to shit on other panel types to combat buyers remorse.
>>730662338>different when used on a small screenThe issue is the nature of how PC screens are used VS TVs. PC have way more static images for much long time frames. OLED is a dead tech in a few more years. We just have to wait out the next replacement.It's fine to buy an OLED monitor one if a person has the coin. Being they can just upgrade or replace it in a few years if/when it starts to shits the bed.. Plus the price will keep dropping.
>>730684394>>730684467Keep in mind any channel/steam/etc. you watch on the TV also has to avoid tickers on the top/bottom (news channels), chat windows, that kind of stuff (anything static obv).I'll never understand why people bother with such temperamental tech desu. Picture quality is better but not worth the money and having to be constantly paranoid of burn-in, crap monitor tech that will hopefully be improved or replaced (dead) within 10 years.
>>730685097OLED is advancing way faster than microLED. MicroLED has been stuck in the same place for like a decade.
>>730685201That is why nobody bought crts the second LCDs hit the mass market (before they had no choice) - the risk of burn in destroyed their ability to actually be used for serious media consumption.
>>730685282>>730685201are these anti burn in people trolls?Im seriousA CRT will never burn in unless its used only for one program like in a companymine has over 30k hours (thats over 5 years of continous use) and no signs of degradation
>>730643907Getting a nice OLED was the biggest, most noticeable upgrade I've made. Current gen QDOLEDs really are that good.
>>730645024That's how you get mold
>>730644729Pulsar is a bandaid solution that uses the same panels that have the underlying problem in the first place.You aren't going to fix motion blur on OLED/LCD with all these stupid strobing backlight techniques, you need to get rid of LCD and OLED altogether.
>>730686234That doesn't make any sense.Are you one of these people that think dust doesn't know how to climb up on top of desks?
>>730645363144hz is pointless if your game is locked to 60.
>>730645483>Newer games don't really benefit from an OLEDThey do because dark scenes look 1000 times better on an OLED.
>>7306484124k is pointless on OLED/LCD because all that extra detal disappears the second the image starts moving.
>>730649654at 27" you wouldn't be able to notice the difference between 1080 and 4k, and with the motion blur, any extra detail is lost anyway, unless you're staring at static photos.
>>730686652works on my machine
>>730649572>$99Your monitor is the most important part of your setup.Why are you people buying the absolute lowest quality monitors you can find?
>>730686750is this the new level of cope poorfags are resorting to?
>>730686867because I'm fucking poor?because I have shitty hardware because I'm poor and can't play anything above 1080p 60fps? if i can even hit that? are you retarded?
Well I bought one recently, Dell Alienware something something. And I can say the "0.03 ms response time" does not matter, I got exponentially better "motion clarity" or whatever with my Iiyama gaming VA monitor that had a strobe function. The colours are indeed gorgeous however.
posting in a comedy tech thread on /v/
>>730674885NTA but they're decent for film/tv.They are rubbish for video games.
lmao oleds
I have a 9070xt. Do I go 1440p oled or 4k ips? I'm not willing to fork over $800+ for a good 4k oled.
>>730687313you return it and get an nvidia card for dlss
>>730687487I've had no stability issues or crashes with it on Linux in the 8 months I've owned it. I will take the lesser performance to the 5070TI for being able to do absolutely nothing and have everything just work. I've heard from friends that Nvidia will not let me do that.
>>730643907unless $700-$800 is a negligible amount to you you're better off saving that money right now
>>730687660you linux cultists are genuinely hilarious to me
>>730687035If you're strobing the backlight of course the motion clarity is going to be better.The OLED equivalent is black frame insertion, so if you used that on your OLED, it'd be better than your old monitor.Problem is that it murders the brightness and means no VRR.
>>730687794I'll check back when they skip windows 12 and 13 to release 14. Until then all the vidya I play, single and multiplayer, are working great and I can use google drive for my Microsoft Office nonsense so I'm not feeling like going back.
>>730688073ok man enjoy
>what sort of screen should I buy?>BUY NVIDIA!!!totally organic
>>730688118Thanks. Hope things work out good for you too.
>>730643907>OLED>HDRLiteral meme tech.A normal FHD IPS will be just as good within negligible ranges while being a fraction of the cost.
>>730688250Do you have any thoughts on that? I've found a decent 1440p oled for a bit under $300 and what I think is a pretty good 4k for around $500.
>>730686529>dark scenesToo bad only old games have them. Modern games will give you a dark foreground and 50% grey volumetric AIDS background.
>>730688481IPS to OLED is bigger than the leap from TN to IPS.
>>730688836Further proving oled is useless.
>>730688836>greyAnd then you see the OLED color banding during that shit.
>>730643907unironically i realised that actually sitting down and PLAYING a session of a game consistently, that isnt MP / Social / rankedand just enjoying my time like that gave me substantially more enjoyment out of my time than any new tech will. (provided its not hampering my experience) this is why after every upgrade i consider how even when my hardware was shit i actually had a lot of good games to play that i just didnt consider or see because i was too hardware focused. instead of jerking off over your BLACKS on your oled think how fun it would be to :>play a classic>play something nostalgic>mod something familiar and replay it>check your backlog, maybe start something you forgot you bought a while ago>return to something you started but didnt finish
>>730643907Enjoy your burn in
>>730645693>my IPS still has the same quality it had 6 years agoit doesn't
>>730689075One thing I will say that stood out is that jpgs look like dogshit on an oled. For some reason the compression artifacts become extremely noticeable.Same with up-scaling artifacts
As a doom 3 enjoyer after getting an oled i'm never going back to lesser display types. I'll stick to oled until microLED (or QDEL) is available for us mere mortals.
>>730689567>compression looks bad>IT IS THE FAULT OF THE SCREENThis is why /mu/ will tell you "good" headphones are just audiophile snake oil when you listen to 48kbps mp3 files.
>>730689489So don't buy a model that's over five years old.
>>730656157interesting. ive held out after not being too impressed with my brothers oled
>>730687035Well yeah this is why I keep saying that oled response times are wasted without a strobing mode. Because it's true.And yes strobing modes with a long enough pulse lenght can even hide the problematic VA dark level response time lag. I had a NEC VA monitor like 10 years ago that did exactly that and it's better than most IPS without strobing. It was a tragedy for me that it broke and couldn't do shit about until I bought my C1 oled.
>>730683396Why?
>>730643907You want two of them actually OP
>>730690980>this room>2 ultrawides instead of a tvWhy
>>730690980>>730691073pretty sure a 4k oled tv with similar specs would be cheaper too funnily enough
>>730649835>to be visible with the naked eye, it took 18 months of abusing it as much as possible and never running the compensation cycles when asked, or minimizing windows not in useIt's not hard to not be a retard.
>>730691073>implying TVs have curved screensNiggaLet me show you my 65" if you want.
>>730691171Why on Earth would you want a curved screen?
>>730691447My eyes are important to me. Imagine looking at a flat screen 12 hours a day where you can't even see the borders when I'm not even 1 meter away from the screen and the LEDs come at your face. This is why curved screens exist.>inb4 congratulations it's still 16:9I literally don't give a shit. Give me a setup where I can have a 5120x2880p resolution setting and still play my games at 200 fps+. I'll wait.
>>730643907You aren't looking very hard then. You can get the eWaste OLED panel tech (QD-OLED) for as low as $342-380 dollars right now at 27" 1440p 180Hz. Or a 32" 4K 240Hz eWaste panel (QD-OLED) for $750.I wouldn't buy anything but Tandem OLED at this point, but if you want budget I'd only by WOLED panel types. QDOLED has no polarizer so it will always have crushed details in dark scenes (can't get true black).https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?forumchoice[]=4&forumchoice[]=9&forumchoice[]=10&forumchoice[]=13&forumchoice[]=25&forumchoice[]=30&forumchoice[]=38&forumchoice[]=39&forumchoice[]=41&forumchoice[]=44&forumchoice[]=53&forumchoice[]=54&forumchoice[]=71&q=OLED%20Monitor&firstonly=1Here is what I would get if you need 27" 1440P 240Hz: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7NZHH2K?m=ATVPDKIKX0DERIt is a WOLED MLA panel so it can reach 1000 nits of peak brightness. This is the best entry level deal you're going to find and it ships with an arm for 600 bucks.
>>730691952based volumetric collapse enjoyerI too hate having colour volume when things get brightWASH IT OUT MORE FOR ME
>>730692057I love it when dark scenes lose ALL detail and even the illumination from the panel itself drops my contrast ratio from infinite to 1000:1.
>>730692057Show me where on the doll the Tandem OLED touched you anon: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gx700a-b
Can't wait for this bad boy to drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgZJQhh-8X4
>>730643907Get a 42 inch LG C -series monitor and wall mount it. Glossy panel is still the best
>>730692484>LG
>>730643907I have an OLED and it's nice but you could get a higher res and larger IPS for less.
>>730692713>literally the best monitor on the marketSorry Linus but your Samsung Display stocks are going to tank.
>>730643907No thank you, i'm wihte, gonna get mini-led
>>730692712Chad energy. My wife uses an LG C4 42" as her monitor mounted on a stand that mounts to the desk (sit-stand desk) and I use a LG C4 48" mounted on a stand that mounts to the desk (sit-stand desk as well). Large format displays are KINO.
>he fell for the QD-OLED memeNGMI
>>730692797yeah and the image quality will be terrible
>>730692407>1427nits peak brightnessSo LG makes the brightest OLED right now? Neat. Guess they really did leapfrog the market.
>5K/1440p dual mode monitors are now coming out>G-Sync Pulsar is now coming out>MiniLED RGB is now coming outI need someone to just combine all 3 of these into one monitor and it will almost be god-tier.
>>730645363tearing will be less bad if you have no vsync or vrr
probably the wrong thread to ask but can any of you recommend me a pc build that can just play everything in 1440p at a nice framerate?
>>730643907You want size? Get a laser projectorYou want good? Get a TVYou want something for a desk? 1080p monitor (don't be a retard and fall for the 1440p or 4k meme)
>>730643907HDR is a bigger upgrade than just about any other upgrade you can make.
>>730697080Which is why oled monitors are useless for it lmao 400nits - that is barely above SDR.
>>730689578Still the best doom main theme
