Why did Tactical RPGs die?
why do you make the same thread every time
Well for an instance, this looks like soulless shit so that might have contributed.
>>730654428Triangle Strategy was aight. I haven't played that new Metal Slug one yet, is it any good?
>>730654428A Final Fantasy Tactics remake came out last year. A Tactics Ogre remake and Triangle Strategy both came out in 2022. Fire Emblem games come out every few years or so. The genre is far from dead.
>>730654428Because 99% of them don't have perma death and offer optional infinite grinding, making them literally just generic turn based JRPGs with extra steps
What are some must plays other than Final Fantasy Tactics and the GBA Fire Emblems?
>>730654548Not really. It's trying to be Into the Breach while looking like Tactics Ogre, and it fails in both regards. I enjoyed it, but it definitely wasn't worth whatever I paid for it. I would have said wait for a humble bundle, but I think it's in the current one. I'm too lazy to check. If it's in a bundle, don't pause. But don't go and buy it either.
most of them dont really feel tactical at all
>>730654605Tactics Ogre LUCT and Knights of Lodis, Der Langrisser, Knights in the Nightmare, Troubleshooter Abandoned Children, Stella GlowStella Glow lets you impregnate the antagonist and live happily ever after btw
>>730654834>Troubleshooter Abandoned Children, Stella GlowDamn I've never heard of these before, I sure hope they might be good games>>730654834>Stella Glow lets you impregNevermind, cumbrained virgins are always wrong
>>730654428They’re doing fine in the west
>>730654428Because mine isnt out yet
>>730654925If you want a strategy focused game just play HoI3 bro. You are in the thread for narratives with turn based gameplay sections that are just barely enough of a challenge to keep you awake. I'll add the 3DS ghost recon xcom knock off to the list too
>>730654605If you can tank the artstyle, Fell Seal
>>730654605Brigandine Legend of forsena or Grand edition
>>730654834>Stella Glow lets you impregnate the antagonist and live happily ever after btwFor me this was the classic case of "shit games /v/ tricked you into playing".One of the dullest SRPG I've played with with boring combat, dumb story and meh characters. Also you can't save the actual best girl.
>>730654605Jeanne D'Arc
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>>730655309This post contains the answer to OP’s question.
>>730654605Unicorn Overlord scratches the same itch for me
>>730654428okay genuine question, but shouldn't BG3 count as a tactical RPG?Larian rpg's as a whole feel like a modern evolution of the tactical RPG genre
>>730654506It's loaded with soul, you ignoramus.
>>730655879I'll play it when they release no gacha version like Octopath did
>>730655776It's not a tactical RPG because it's actually goodsame reason no one recommends Divinity OS2 in these threads, it needs to be sameface weebshit with shallow gameplay to count.
>>730656019It already has one, click the Spiral of Destinies button and enjoy your gachaless story modes. Make sure to start with Night Crimson, it's kino.
>>730655879It's loaded with microtransactions and multiple currencies to confuse you into spending you piece of shit
hit you (hit you)with the (with the)zilla tactics
>>730655776>>730656061Larian games are excellent dungeon crawlers, so I’m excited to see what the new games combat will bring to the table when it comes to turn based design.>Larian rpg's as a whole feel like a modern evolution of the tactical RPG genreTheir systems director in the latest AMA said that they try hard to keep turn based combat innovative and in competition with the industry at large. Thats why you feel that way.
>>730654428from my perspective, they aren’t challenging enough and they often are extremely tropey with generic art style.When they can break away from those conventions and actually think about designing a tactics game without relying on copying others, its usually fun.
>>730654428didnt a final fantasy tactics remake and unicorn overlord come out fairly recently?
>>730655691How’s JA3?
Is Solasta goodSolasta 2 EA out in a couple months as well
>>730656309nah they are not excellent. Theme park rides with generic themes. Thats why the majority of players give up after the first act.DOS2 was in fact just friendslop that got popular due to kinda weak co-opThe very fact that you can claim they are “excellent” is more a reflection on the lack of options than the game itself.
>>730654428genre's too niche so only low budget games are viable and modern devs only want to go for blockbusters
>>730656493no5e is a dogshit system for vidya
>>730656454its good
>>730654428that FFT remake sold a million copies
>>730656671that's a 30 years old game
>>730654428What game is that? Any good?
>>730654428I'm guessing it is AI?Shame, I'd like to play that.
>>730654428the are no more technological constraints
>>730656908Don't see any AI tag on steam
>>730656880https://store.steampowered.com/app/2526380/Sword_of_Convallaria/
>>730656908>this>AI
>>730654553Onimusha tactics remake when?
>>730656613Oh, another 3fag. BG3 is better than 1 and 2 and IWD by a league. Its better than most CRPGs and tactical rpgs too
the problem with convallaria was the powercreep on the units has been kind of nuts.launch units were balancednowadays you have the KING Camelot stomping across the field, Geralt with huge melee AoEs, Judge Samantha/Triss/Yen with huge ranged aoes, Ciri the queen of knockback cheese...but hey at least Maitha gets in a badass robot (SOON)
>>730654834Hilda is a shitty Fatima. Get better taste in women.
>>730656516Very strange post. For how long those games are, they have great player retention. The co op is fun and unobtrusive, describing it as “friend slop” is just weird.>>730657573Not him, but tabletop mechanics don’t work well in video games in general. I really feel for Larian when they say they get to design a system used for video games finally. Working with tabletop limitations was their main complaint with BG3’s development.
>>730655525Thoughts on Legends of Runersia?
What's your top 3 tactical games discounting japslop? For me1. Battle Brothers2. XCOM Enemy Within3. Divinity Original Sin 2
>>730656454It's good honestly. I'm an outsider to the JA series so take my opinion with some salt. Tactically the enemy is pretty basic, but I like the way that armour influences your free moves and perks can influence that even more. The different builds are honestly pretty fun and there's a few different effective ways to play, so it doesn't feel like it railroads you into a meta. The mutators you can add on a new game are fun too.The story is a little generic, there's a soft timer that you need to be mindful of in the early game, you should move to clear the first proper island & side objectives as quickly as you can because that soft timer will lock you out of several side quests if you don't, but once you've done that mad dash the game opens up.Some characters are kind of annoying to listen to, others feel very flat but have good skills. There's enough good characters that I feel like you can build several squads without feeling like you have to take someone you hate. NPC wise there's this air of them not taking themselves seriously a lot of the time, you definitely feel that the devs liked the satire elements a lot and they really emphasize that in JA3, I think it's a little corny at times but there's also some genuine moments that hit really well for me with the music being really strong too.
>>730658458Does Troubleshooter count as japslop?
How to make a FFT Archer viable
The genre is exhausting. When I finish one Tactics game, the last thing I want to play next is another Tactics game.
>>730654428gachas and smartphones killed them
>>730658458In no particular.Western TRPG>Divinity: OS I&II>BG3>OG XCom>Into the BreachJapslop TRPG>Old Fire Emblem (pre Awakening)>Der Langrisser (way too easy but branching story's good)>Valkyria Chronicles (hot trash but I like the weeb WWII setting)chinkslop>Reverse Collapse: Codename Bakery Girl
>>730654428I got Yennefer, is she any good
>>730659315valkyria chronicles is anything but hot trash, 1 and 4 specifically are excellent
>>730658121ntabetter balance and gameplay is a general improvement3d models look worse than spritescharacters are less reactive (probably due to va costs) and you have less storylines/banter when it comes to side characters
>>730659192Why cant real games survive on phone?
>>730654428What game
>>730654428You think TRPGs attract the minds of zooms that can't focus for more than 15 seconds at a time?
>>730654834>antagonist>>730655628also thisthe game is boring and piss easy and anons meme'd me into playing it
>>730659487Sword of Convallaria.
>>730656454It's quite alright, surprisingly after all those prior botched efforts.I'm still annoyed at auto fire doing less damage per shot and at fatigue being a discrete thing, instead of continuous, though.
>>730656454JA3 is an excellent sequel to JA2. Something no one probably expected.
>>730658842I like giving them knight skills and making their jump as high as possible so they can perch at the highest point of the map and be an absolute nuisance to anyone in range
>>730659374her teleport skill is really good, dmg up 3+vuln 3+speed up 2 to up to two allies per turn while also moving them around the map
I like Dead Hand, but I'm a hipster cunt>>730658796only from 1910 until 1945>>730658458JA2 mogs all those 3
>>730659587is it good?
>>730658458is this japslop?
>>730659694I was hoping with an official PC release there would be more mods
>>730659438The only thing I dislike about the first game (I can't speak on the 4th) is the ranking system encouraging rushing.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3855320/ABYSS_REBEL/This one looks pretty cool.Also, anyone play Dice Gambit? How is it?
>>730659438I've never played a worse TRPG, literally brainless enemy AI that skip turns or suicides half the time.Most units are borderline useless because of the badly balanced AP system or will fullfill incorrect roles (lancers clear mines because resistance to explosions, shocktroopers kill tanks because penetration).If you care about rank then you'll scout rush, if you don't then you'll slowly push the frontline while enemy barely responds.I haven't played 4 but I played 2 and while it had a few pleasant additions like new units, nerfed orders, different objectives; it still had the same crappy AI that suicides or skips turns.picrel is probably one of the most amusing ones I've seen.
>>730660332It's okay.
1. Battles too long. Zoomers gonna zoom.2. Too many titles that required basically no "tactics" to speak of.3. Devs who got adventurous got punished (see vandal hearts 2)4. Shining Force 3, maybe the best one ever, got locked on the Saturn5. Less money for games development in general. The boom ended and more niche genres died in general.
tactical rpgs are something you play once and then the gimmick is overplayed unless you are some super autist who becomes obsessed with one gametype
>>730660771huh freak off chinaman
the audience doesn't pay for it unless it has waifus and it's a genre made to be niche
XCOM 2 or Wasteland 3?
>>730656061DOS2 combat sucks shit.The first game is great though.
>Not a whole lot of tacticity>No real roleplaying>Minimal fapbaitingNot sure who this weird little subgenre is meant to appeal to. Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics will always have a special place in my memory for their dialogue and artstyles, but they're not exactly revolutionary, interactive gameplay experiences that make me want to replay them over and over.Let me know when Japan figures out what the fuck the RP and G stands for and develops one instead of a borderline VN with less player involvement than a Telltale production.
>>730661136Wasteland 3
>>730654428For me it's Vlder bullying
>the good guy and the bad guy share the same nameYeah you cant beat this type of kino
