>try out world of warcraft>same old formula after a decade>try out ffxiv>same as above but at least theres cute cat girls ig>try out guild wars 2>outdated and zones are dead overall>try out black desert online>combat actually fun but no dungeons or raids>try out throne and liberty>it's just black desert but without anything that makes black desert good>try out where winds meet>same as above>try out the elder scrolls online>need $100 worth of dlcs to be relevant and even with that it doesn't fix the bethesda jank>try out destiny 2>a fucking star wars dlc with darth vader appears>try out warframe>have to wait 3 days to build a fucking frame that I grinded for>try out first descendant>it fails to do anything that destiny 2 and warframe do nor adds anything new>try out ashes of creation>it's just a worse version of lost ark magically even tho it's diff genres>wildstar and tera are dead so cannot even try them againIs there some giga hidden mmo gem out there that I don't know about? Or is the genre just not worth investing in anymore
>>730663162MMOs are dogshit meant to be a life replacement for neets and shutins. Do anything else with your time.
>>730663162You're too lazy and stupid to play anything decent
>>730663162MMOs will either have boring brain-off gameplay padded out with grind to keep people around, or be fun and die in a year because there aren't enough people who enjoy actual gameplay in an MMO to keep one alive.
>>730663162>Is there some giga hidden mmo gemhttps://www.riseofagon.com/server reopened recently and the steam release is imminent (allegedly)theres a surprising amount of people playing it too
>>730663162If the only negative you can find about warframe is the crafting timesThen it seems like a good game no?
Albion Online
>>730663162eve
>>730663162Guild Wars 1 is usually the haven for this sort of autism.
>>730663162>Is there some giga hidden mmo gem out there that I don't know about?Maninogi, star wars the old republic, and lord of the rings online. Lotro and swtor do require a ton of dlc eventually, but that's just the nature of ancient mmos.
>>730663162>Is there some giga hidden mmo gem out there that I don't know about?Yes, but we gatekeep it. Sorry, bro.
>>730663162WoW was only fun because it allowed you to see the world of Warcraft from a soldier's/citizen's point of view. On the ground level instead of just hordes of dudes and trees
>>730663749>full loot pvpwow I enjoy getting robbed every day just because I don't treat games as a job
>>730663302fpbp. there was a time where that was exactly what I wanted, but a videogame surrogate for a real life is not sustainable. It can be satisfying in the same way that taking drugs is, but thankfully unlike drugs the potency of this experience is only weakening over time. There will never, ever be a game like WotLK or earlier WoW again in terms of sheer amount of meaningful content on offer, and I think I'm thankful for that.
>>730665249EVE will never be good because the devs have zero interest in letting a solo character accomplish anything.Fun to think about but no point in playing.
>>730663162you're supposed to grind a second frame while the first one builds retardalso warframe is not an mmo
>>730665037Warframe is all about grinding Frames and Weapons which makes you not get rewarded after your grind as you have to wait 3 days for a Frame and 1 day for a Weapon, it just does not feel good.Imagine spending a week grinding a mount in let's say WoW, but then a part of it drops and now you have to wait 3 more days to actually get it.It's just shit.
>>730663749any game that sells 'supporter packs' before a real launch will just be shut down and get rebooted under a different name before amounting to anythingstop falling for this you autistic fucks
>>730665521not a single grind in warframe takes even half that long but i don't expect a brainwashed blizzdrone to understand anything but instant gratification
>>730665583Path of Exile did this and it's been around for a decade
>>730663162i prefer beer and pretzels difficulty in my mmos
>>730665920Even the worst grinds in warframe take just a day or two at most. Pretty tame in comparison to anything else I've played. The real problem is how everything is time locked, or gated behind weekly rotations. Also those manipulative as fuck platinum coupons they give as daily login bonuses. The entire playerbase has been conditioned to drop another $50 every few weeks. My friend group has spend thousands on a free to play game and it hurts to see.
>>730665445>WotLK or earlier WoWThe older I get the more I appreciate how much magical WOTLK and BC was during my late Highschool years and how much I missed staying up night all night for Tempest Keep or ICC hardmodes and falling asleep in school constantly. As an adult I realize now why my Dad could never keep up with it while caring for a family.
>>730666094just ignore the coupon??? jesus christ does every MMOfag have zero self-control? it's a wonder you faggots haven't moved on to gachas
>>730665sage418Yup. Once that wore off you kinda saw it for what it really was. Gear of Gearcraft. Endlessly gay. Dropped it after 4 months once the high wore off.Still hop on once in a while to level a character to max level and then drop it again.The vanilla world is still unmatched. It just has such strong thematics.The rest is gay.
>>730666236mmos have successfully weaponized fomo and the demand for efficient play. its interesting to see
3 words: pso new genesisYour welcom
>>730666194it was a moment in time and we can never go back. I don't regret it at all, but there also cant be another like it again. And that's probably a good thing.
>>730665037the real worst part of warframe is how the entire game encourages you to collect and level every character and weapon in the game and then severely punishes you if you want to participate in the arsenal roulette endgame if you do have an inventory full of shit that isn't fully invested ineither spend countless resources invested into every single weapon and character you find interesting or just throw 90% of your inventory away. retarded.
>>730663162You seem to find one particular thing to bitch about regardless of game, so no, nothing will satisfy you.
>>730666194i feel sad for teenagers who were allowed to throw away their teenage years like this. groomer to be a slave addict to blizzard
>>730663162you need to take the hint and stop playing mmos
>>730663162I played Blade and Soul a bit when it got released globally, I think it easily has the best combat system out of any MMO I've ever played. I loved how your skills changed all the time based on the state of your character, or what you last used.Shame it's dead af, maybe even shut down now idk
>>730666236I have no problems ignoring it. But like I said, the entire playerbase has been conditioned by the game itself to go wild over them. Every point of the game is designed to put pressure on spending platinum for convenience. Crafted a new frame? Plat to have instant access. Have access to your new frame? Spend plat to upgrade your frame. Spend plat to run your frame with a new build. Spend plat to buy mods to make the new build even better. Spend plat to upgrade those mods. Spend plat to have a new design for the frame. Spend plat to...It doesn't end. It's optional, since everything you need you'll eventually get. You'll get your upgrade components through weekly rotations. You'll get your mods by playing the game, or through weekly rotations for the time gated mods. You'll get your weapons by playing the game. But for new players, normies and casuals who try to play, they froth at the mouth for this shit. It's psychological manipulation to the extreme. And they fucking love it. Somehow they always thank the devs for being generous and not making the game pay to win. Like bitch I watched you spend $300 on this game over the past few months. You yourself made this game pay to win.
>>730663162why would wow change its formula? neophilic trannies will cope and seethe at this but the fact of the matter is that wow still has the best MMO gameplay on the market, and only one that even makes it to decent gameplay.
>>730667446Rent free
>>730667490an odd thing to say when blood is dripping down the axe wound you used to call a crotch
>>730665425simply craft a 100 bone sets, more than you will ever need.i rem basically maxing out my character solo. a few resources are disputed by guilds but if those matter to you then you can suck their dick lol.>I don't treat games as a jobif youre a new player you wont have any valuables and you're far more likely to get beheaded
>>730663162You're like a decade too late, mmo are dogshit now, killed by datamining and every information being available. MMOs back then must have felt like Christopher Columbus must have felt like when he was the first to explore the new world. You will never have that feeling again.
>>730663162Everything is meant to have a beginning and an end anon. Even more so if it's a profit-driven and/or creative-driven product.MMOs are an unsustainable product. There will never be a good MMO, or at least not a long-lasting one. It's just not possible to create.
>>730667446yeah you're right world of wokecraft is the best mmo on the market, BUT you have to ignore the fact the average player is a mongoloid third worlder that can barely speak english, ignore the pointless gearchasing gameplay that gets reset every patch, ignore the saturday morning cartoon "power of friendship" story, ignore the constant leftist lecture quests, ignore the fact you're directly funding a company of trannies and DEI plants, ignore the retarded droprates that force you to have an army of surplus characters, ignore the constant greedy practices like paying for a premium version of the xpac that gives you a 3 day headstartturns out eating shit isn't so bad if you ignore the taste and smell and health implications!
>>730667446a thermobaric nuclear warhead has been dropped on this thread
>>730663162Dofus
>>730667446wowfags will really say this and then claim every other MMO is only played by cultists
>>730667859>greedy practices like paying for a premium version of the xpac that gives you a 3 day headstartIt's still insanely, actually crazy how far Blizzard has fallen and the playerbase nowadays just eats it up because they are little cattle that got grown into that.
>>730668014nta but everyone copies wow for a reason
>>730663162I came back to eve a month ago and its as good as it was before.
>>730663162OSRS GW2 & XIV are the only three MMOs worth playingif you don't like any of them, MMO is a dead genre for you
>>730668146because it was a huge cash cow once upon a time and nowadays the company produces slop like this?
>>730663162>try runescape oldschool
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>>730668339what does that have to do with gameplay or game design
ALL I WANTIS AN MMORPGTHAT IS NOTI REPEAT-NOT-DPS/HEALER/TANK FAGGOTRYTANKS WERE A FUCKING MISTAKE
I'm lowkey hyped for apogea on the 16th but at the same time I know the game will be a major time sink and that I'll feel left out for being a slow brainlet
>>730668462gw2you will quickly learn how stupid having no trinity is, as every fucking thing you do in the game becomes a retarded zergfest
>>730668709You can still have aggro, what I don't want is one guy who can just moon the enemy and get immediately dogpiled.
>>730668462osrs
>>730668454it kills your attachment to the setting and therefore the gamethere's a reason the player count plummeted during shadowlands
>>730663302But what if I want to replace my life. I want to escape it.
>>730669527meaningful life changes, or guides on how to tie a nooseescapism is fleeting
>>730669618No thanks. Not OP but wow does the trick for me with all the versions available. But I do wish for something new. Something I could sink thousands of new hours in.
>>730669416it plummeted because the system design was shit. "story" has been forgettable since vanilla. even vanilla is very far away from warcraft 1 or 2
>>730663162Tera died? Also try Rift.
