>kills established characters and setting just to shit all over the 'humanity has and WILL rebuild' nonsense that FNV tried to implementAbsolutely based. Now Fallout 5 has full reason to just be more wasteland, just like superior Fallout 3. Are you excited, /v/? Say you're excited! NOW!
Free Cities did the post-apocalypse setting better than fallout
>>730664960brat correction required
>>730664960I'm excited. Please Todd... just don't destroy Jamestown... Just keep those mutants pure!
>>730664960she needs plapping correctionno, I'm not buying Skyrim fuck off
>>730664960>little lamplightwtf do those lil niggas even eat
>>730666383You know EXACTLY what those lil kids eat, cockroach meat, highly rich in protein.
>>730666383I believe they eat a fungus that grows on dead bodies.
>>730666383My babybatter
>>730664960>Bumble and Princess taking turns to go potty on my faceThis is Fallout 3 true permadeath hardcore style.
for me? it's C.J. Young
>>730666880Man fo3 models look like potatoes. Do you get hard looking at used erasers lumps
>>730666383They tell you they eat soup made from the licen and mushrooms that grow on the cave walls in one of the deeper chambers
>>730667000Mods or this wonderful thing called your imagination fix that issue
>>730665469Todd: your ride's over, mutie, time to die.
>>730667000Trips checked when you're really into something you don't even need to see it, much less see it all pretty. I can get hard just thinking about certain things.
>>730664960how fucking dare you, don't you bethsjeets understand how important the theme of changing yourself for the better is for us obsidisisters, you're literally pulling a j k rowling right now and I can't even deal with you
>>730667157This thread is about Little Lamplight
Anyone got the toilet drinking greentext?
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>>730667247the ingame screenshot really ties the post together
>>730664960>the 'humanity has and WILL rebuild' nonsense that FNV tried to implementFNV actually aid that all those societies were doomed to fail because they were rebuilding instead of just building.The whole game's message, from the main story to every one of the DLCs, is that people need to move on and let go of any remnants of the past and the Old World and start anew.
>>730664960>>730665469it really does feel like Todd told the directors and writers 'don't touch anything from the East Coast, but the west coast is all yours to fuck up'.
>>730664960>humanity has and WILL rebuild' nonsense that FNV tried to implementthat's what F2 did it had return of paper money and cities started to function if anything it's weird how 3,4 and 76 act as if the bombs just dropped
>>730667494it made me laugh that we're being explicitly shown all the big forces at play in the west are fucked and dead, meanwhile fucking maxson gets namedropped as still being around and alive (but oooh he's dealing with some big scary things in the commonwealth guys they're definitely still dealing with things hahaha)
>>730667584Todd Howard just wanted a post apocalypse grim setting, and when New Vegas did new vegas shit, he and the other F3 enthusiasts were bummed but couldn't say anything due to its high acclaim. Now with this show reaching a higher reach of acclaim by normals, he can effectively kill everything New Vegas did.
>>730667703Todd is such a spiteful weasel.
>>730667703absolutely based
>>730664960I should really fallout 3 again with the children of the wasteland mod. It was pretty fun killing deathclaws as a loli in new vegas
>>730667703>Todd Howard just wanted a post apocalypse grim settingWell maybe he shouldn't have been such a dumbfuck to set FO3 200 FUCKING YEARS after the war then.
>>730666979thought that was a rap star
>>730664960THIS BRAT!
>>730667358The main theme of Fallout is that human nature will inevitably lead to conflict, and you get to see various factions and characters try to cope with this fact. The post apocalypse is an aesthetic. Bethesda wants to keep it mad max for brand reasons, Avellone wants to for autism reasons.
>>730667703Fallout 3 blew my goddamn mind when it released and then New Vegas blew again even harder. I fucking love both games and I will never forget that we only got New Vegas because of 3. I went back and played the first two as well, F1 is true kino, F2 is fun but not as tight and the tone is way brighter.Anyways fuck infighting. The series really went to shit with 4, it's not even an RPG, just a looter shooter.
>>730668483>The main theme of Fallout is that human natureNo, New Vegas shows Great Man fashy dictator ideology as obviously horrific, liberal democracy as garbage that falls to capitalistic exploitation, and libertarian freedom as corrupt and only caring about the elite and wealthy while all the DLCs say the Old World sucked dick.It blatantly pushes for the anarchist ending and dismantling the idea of rebuilding the old ways.
>>730668532>just a looter shooter.And they managed to screw even that up and make it completely unfun in Shartfield.
>>730668695Todd's recent games have been some serious ass. My hopes are at rock bottom for that new elder scrolls.
>>730668186Honestly it's funny how a lot of the problems of both FO3 and FO4 setting wise could have been handwaved away if it was only say, 30-40 years after the bombs fell. Sure stuff like super mutants and radscorpions being in Boston&DC will always be nonsense but the lack of any real central power, most people either living in small settlements or becoming raiders and even the overall disheveled look of towns would all have worked better. Hell the whole premise of FO3 with clean drinking water would have worked better in an earlier time since it's hard to believe that so many non mutated humans still live in DC and areas around it without a consistent source of purified water for hundreds of years and I doubt the vaults were going to share theirs.
>>730668815I find it funny how a lot of talent has already hemorrhaged from Bethesda but that dickhead Emil just sticks in there like a stubborn shitstain on a toilet.I firmly believe that TES VI's only saving grace may be the modders, but afaik Starfield made a lot of things unnecessarily more complicated and TES VI will likely just be more of the same. Plus a lot of those most talented modders have quit the hobby altogether and been replaced by shithead zoomers who keep their stuff locked away behind Patreon subscriptions.
>>730669067If TES6 reverts the stupid procgen chunks from Starfield in favor of hand-designed areas it will be modding business as normalIf Bethesda decides to go full Daggerfall 2 it's genuinely over, though.And I hope they don't ducttape the game to UE like with Oblivion Remastered. That will also genuinely kill it.
>>730669182>>And I hope they don't ducttape the game to UE like with Oblivion Remastered. That will also genuinely kill it.Yeah this too, but it's exactly the kind of lazy bandaid fix they've always been enamored with.
>>730669182>>730669067They also need to make NPCs with full inventories again. Fuck doing that "your is your skin" thing every other game does. The world simulation bit is what sets their games apart. That and the big, detailed open worlds you can interact with. Starfield couldn't get either right and so it fucking died without even establishing a hardcore modding community.
Reminder that the developers of Fallout were kicked out of the studio that carries the name Black Isle Studios and went on to form the devteam that made VtMB and Arcanum. An entirely separate devteam, who fail to understand the core themes of fallout, created Fallout 2 and the plans for Van Buren and the ideas that would become New Vegas. Fallout 3 was unironically the best thing that could have happened to the Fallout series because it returned the setting to what it should be, a post-nuclear role playing game.
>>730669440>Your is your skinWhat the fuck does this mean?
>>730664960>make a game set in a post apocalypse>shift focus away from the actual cool concepts (nuclear war, vaults, power armor) and instead focus on a bunch of raiders, tribes, and rebuilt cities>Fails so hard you have to sell the IP off to some other company.>They make a game that heavily emphasizes stuff like the wasteland, the vague 50s style iconography, the pre-war culture and preceding events, and sets it in Washington DC for some extra juxtaposition with the decrepit cityscape contrasted against a once prosperous nation that fell due to it's own prosperity.>series sells like crazy, and becomes one of those iconic gaming franchises.Seriously, why are people so upset that a "post-nuclear RPG" actually tries to be post nuclear, instead of moderately rebuilt? There was barely any radiation in Fallout New Vegas. The series is called Fallout, for fuck's sake. It kind of makes sense to focus on the fallout of this two hour super war that decimated most of the world.I can understand the complaints about having 3 be set 200 years after the war and still making it so underdeveloped. It's unrealistic, but it still fits the themes of past sins causing the troubles of the future, even this far into the future.Also, without the pseudo-1950s aesthetic, there's pretty much nothing to distinguish this series from any other post apocalyptic setting. And before you say it. It was definitely there in the first game. It wasn't common, but it was still there. The old school television and wall paper in the opening movie, the slide-show style cartoons that everyone knows, the end credits song. It's a deliberate choice that Bethesda thought was interesting enough to capitalize on.
>>730669587Fallout 3's Brotherhood is the closest the Brotherhood has been to Fallout 1's since Fallout 1
>>730669587>An entirely separate devteamWrong: Cain, Anderson and Boyarsky left but both teams share a lot of rank and file jobbers.https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_developershttps://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2_developers
>>730669743Yeah, the Brotherhood Outcasts are - the main faction is Todd's retarded honorful medieval knights fanfic.
>>730668670Every form of human organization is shown to be prone to conflict and failure. The anarchy endings in particular are shown to be terrible, and its supporters become disillusioned. Arcade, the Followers, and even Daniel are to show the dangers of idealism. This isn't my headcanon, it's been explicitly stated by the lead writers.
>>730667703> due to its high acclaimNigga what? Read some reviews of it from 2010.
>>730670153>Arcade, the Followers, and even Daniel are to show the dangers of idealismAnd yet the Followers are portrayed as purely good and Daniel's ending is shown as the good one while the "defend your land" ending shows the pure-hearted tribals being corrupted by violence.The writers can say whatever they want, but it doesn't change what's in the game. And what's in the game says "Old World ideologies bad, anarchy good".
>>730664960Built for lolidom /ll/ with the Lone Wanderer.
>>730669965Nothing wrong with factions evolving tho. We also got a reason as to why the brotherhood turned more open, mainly the scourge and the question of demographics because soldiers don’t grow on trees. Vault 101 actually faces the same problem and it’s even a speech check to the overseer.
>>730670829I just wish they had done more with the Outcasts, they kinda just were there and you could barely interact with them.
>>730670829New Vegas brought up that demographics question but not really.It turns out, only some people care and they get pissy when their gay daughters won't pump out future Paladins. But actually that's not true and that was bullshit Elijah made up to separate Veronica from someone she could rely on.
>>730667703unironically based. get your getback, Todd. Imagine having permanent post apocalyptic franchise in your hand, and then the old devs come in and say 'um actually! this is how its supposed to be done'!
>>730669965I'm just going to copy-paste the canon BoS ending from the first fallout game."The Brotherhood of Steel helps the other human outposts drive the mutant armies away with minimal loss of life, on both sides of the conflict. The advanced technology of the Brotherhood is slowly reintroduced into New California, with little disruption or chaos. The Brotherhood wisely remains out of the power structure, and becomes a major research and development house."
>>730668186Yeah, that's the main problem I have with Todd. He seems keen on keeping everything just barely functioning. He can't fathom the idea of people adapting instead of becoming cavemen with laser rifles.
>>730671558>Why don't they just give up the main draw of the setting? is he dumb?This is why Interplay had to sell off the IP.
>>730671558Fallout 2 was reddit slop and flopped for a reason.
>>730667247this is why todd stopped making good games>b-b-but Skyrimnot a good game without mods.
>>730667703>due to its high acclaimthis is why people call you trannies, you just constantly lie and live in a fantasy world
What did Todd mean by this?
>>730674270This.
Loli butt
>>730674270>HEY KIDS do you want to buy a game called skyrim?
>>730674270Todd likes em young.
>>730674270
I've only played 3 briefly on a friend's PS3 a long time ago. Kind of interested in picking it up finally myself. I should grab the GOTY edition, right?
>>730675235Do they even sell the base version anywhere anymore?
>>730675235Maybe? I remember some of the dlc being trash
>>730675235Don't, unless you wanna mod it - the vanilla version is completely fucked on modern systems. Best way to play is with TTW so you're effectively playing FO3 in NV.
>>730675357>>730675361Thought it'd matter, but I'll just get the GOTY edition then.>>730675474I was planning on some bugfix mods and an ENB. TTW looks very interesting, but I don't think I'll bother with yet it unless 3 is incredibly fun and it gets me to try NV.
>>730667245ask and ye shall receive one second later>>730667247
>>730664960>FNV tried to implementThat shit has been in the games since 1 and 2.
>>730664960more?
>>730675972>TTW looks very interesting, but I don't think I'll bother with yet it unless 3 is incredibly fun and it gets me to try NV.It's worth it for engine improvements alone, plus no one really mods 3 anymore so all you'll find is practically ancient by now. You don't even need to play NV necessarily.Oh and if you aren't gonna pirate, get them both from https://www.fanatical.com/en/pick-and-mix/best-of-platinum-collection-build-your-own-bundle?v=5937
>80 fallout threads on /v/ a minute>leaking onto other boards>some obese fatass is sharing his happy meals on /ck/ and getting made fun of>>21824880What is with you people, play something else. This shit is embarassing.
>>730676256
>>730676526>>>/ck/21824880
>>730667664>fucking maxson gets namedroppedhttps://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Roger_MaxsonIt's literally the most important name in the setting. Of course he's going to get namedropped.
>>730676757there's a difference between talking about their founder roger maxson and the commonwealth chapter's current leader arthur maxson from fallout 4, they made references to both
>>730676905That's irrelevant, Maxson has either just absconded with Liberty Prime (the greatest BoS asset) or he's just claimed CiT and its knowledge. He's the most important piece on the board for the brotherhood. There's a million things wrong with the show, Maxson being a big deal isn't one of them.
>>730666383They explain it literally in the game, and it's mostly fungus which they continue to grow by throwing dead bodies of the mongos they kill into the cave pools or something like that.
>>730677132anon that's my fucking point, every faction is the west has died/nuked/become a laughingstock, meanwhile fallout 4's brotherhood is still running around just fine with their leader completely fine and doing shit still with the only issue being that they're 'dealing with some bad shit'there's nothing inherently wrong with him being a big deal, but there is something wrong with him being allowed to still be a big deal when they made the NCR a fucking crater because haha war never changes
>>730664960>Are you excited, /v/? Say you're excited! NOW!Yes, princessposter... I'm excited... Yes...
>>730675972TTW does arthmoor tier changes so dont do TTW
>>730677560like what?
>>730664960Even Fallout 3 understood the central theme of Fallout better than 4 or the show. 76 is like a theme park MMO so I won't even discuss it. 4 was awful and dumb and the show flanderizes or breaks established characters and lore.
>>730664960There should be an alternate start mod where the player is evicted from the Vault earlier into his childhood and ends up living in Little Lamplight. Get a back story on everyone living in Big Town too as you grow up with them.
>>730664960That big eyed bitch kills the King, who was just a good man trying to help freeside, is just a giant slap in the face to NV fans. How much longer are we going to put up with this disrespect /v/... That fuckin animal, Todd Howard... I can't even say his name.
>>730677930What is the "central theme of Fallout" and how does it apply to the four old Fallouts?
>>730678215The King gets fucked in like all the endings of the actual game, bro.
>>73067821535... he was a fuckin kid...
>>730676560Artist name?
>>730664960Damn brat requires correction.
>>730678215that thing with shady sand, whatever happened there...
>>730678302>Central theme People will always wage war upon each other, even in the ashes of the world that destroyed itself by warfare. >Fallout 1The Master makes an army of mutants to "unify" the wasteland, by force. You also have the Great Khans situation and the possibility of the Vault Dweller wiping out Necropolis himself. >Fallout 2Enclave declared war on the "impure" wasteland, the chosen one responded by nuking their oil rig.>Tactics Didn't play that one. Going to admit that the antagonist being an AI doesn't keep with the theme.>Fallout 3The entire James/BoS vs Enclave conflict. It was dumb but still not as bad as the Nothing that was Fallout 4.
>>730664960Something about this image seems... odd.
>>730679641Tactics is odd one out in many ways like gameplay or focus on being one faction but Calculator count as people/human in same way Master was because it is using human brains and 3 out of 4 endings require it being controlled by brain of somebody from player side, 2 of them end up with really warlike Calculator (all 4 endings will lead to warfare)
>>730678378They’re only fucked in Legion ending no matter what. NCR is fine with them if you broke peace, House is fine with them if you didn’t, and Yes Man doesn’t care
>>730680054Wait till you see the follow-up panels, whoa mama!
>TribalTodd Howard>Gutted HelmetFallout
>>730680238Well? Don't leave us hanging
>>730668532I have fond memories of playing 3 on my 360 and I'll never hate it, even if it's inferior to NV4 on the other hand is so awful I only played a few hours of it and never touched it again.
>>730667350And, from the angle, he's clearly crouching beneath her.
>>730664960Radioactive cunny...
Artist is tillshitposting on gelbooru. Their loli art isn’t that good I’m afraid.
>>730682874Do you have to register to see it? I'm only seeing fat chicks (unless that was your ruse all along, in which case well played).
>>730683094Go in settings and check “view all site content”You don’t need an account.
>>730678215IN THIS HERE BOARD THE KING IS HEROEND OF STORY
>>730683505Well that sure is a peculiar way of doing things, I tell ya hwut. Thanks for the spoonfeeding though.
>>730682141this is a case of being based on accident. the writers wanted you to sympathize with nobody in this situation. genociding the "bigots" is equivalent to denying ghouls shelter in their eyes
mods?
I miss genuinely discussing games on /v/
>>730686264Go to the RE thread up rn.
ToT
>>730667703Unironically how many more years does Todd have in game development? He's gotta be pushing 60 by now. And ES6 hasn't even begun production.
>>730669683You’re not wrong about the motivation behind the writing but I think for a lot of people having the setting be so blatantly influenced by these meta elements takes them out of it as far as immersion and makes it impossible to take the setting seriously. The events don’t have any real foundation in universe
