What went wrong? And when can we expect competent version from the genre veterans at Riot? The core premise is pretty fun.
riot can't make a Minecraft clone or a fighting game that lasts longer than a week with a decade of dev timethey're the most useless development studio per capita/revenue
>>730665273ProbablyRiot are really good at copying peoples work most of the time
>>730665273>matches are ladder-only>way too difficult despite fundamentals being intuitive>can't tell what character you're playing as until the game has already fucking started
>>730665273>What went wrong?Giving the game to content creators in hopes they would make good playtesters. They instead forced them to soft-release the game too early, keep jerking them around with their ideas for "balance" and continue leaking shit for attention on social media.
>riot deadlock>all movement is completely gone>you get banned for lane swapping>all items are passivesHold on this is just smite
>>7306669521st and 3rd are obviously temporary
>>730665273The game is barely 50% done, arguably not even that. Expect obvious scuffed mechanics as they slowly finish the gameAlso like that other anon said, Riot couldn't even make a minecraft clone after getting handed it on a silver platter. Riot management is so clueless that I have to wonder if they intentionally screw up their products.
Riot fucked up a fighting game man. And apparently any moron can make one given endless Japanese indie studios are pumping them out. Any talent Riot ever had has clearly vanished or is working on another never coming out project. Which is an insult to the word talent given their business model is "X but for retards"
Rem is cute! Cute!
>>730665273It's been my main multiplayer game since I got in the playtest early 2024. I usually hover around high phantom / low ascendant and my match quality is generally pretty good. Dev team is really active and actually reads feedback. I've had multiple suggestions implemented into the game. Looking forward to the upcoming patch. If you aren't having fun with it maybe you should try something more simplistic like call of duty? Might be more your speed.
>>730665273reddit-coded and instead of making hot girls they have to cater to the ugly monster fucker freaks since they latched onto Ivy.
One of the best changes that Volvo could make to the current status and prealpha testing of Deadlock is to revoke the game's invite access to any player who has merely 3 heroes in their roster while queueing for matches. You should only be able to disable 3 heroes while the rest are active. Fuck anyone who is min maxing and putting dozens of hours into the same "main". The concept of having a main should have exclusively stuck to fighting games and that shit quaratine game that drained the entire genre, Overwatch. And you already know who the target audience for fgs are. Don't be one of them. Actually, just don't play assfaggot games to begin with.
>>730665273>What went wrong?Everything stemming from the very premise, boring crap at its core.
>>730668313>If you aren't having fun with it maybe you should try something more simplistic like call of duty? Might be more your speed.I was with you until this condescending dipshit comment. People shooters with good movement and kinetic combat. That doesn't necessitate the assfaggots shit that most people agree drags this game down.
>>730667953sexy boy
>>730665273its fun for abit but it gets very tiresome to play for long periodsSince its a Moba and a shooter you barely get to relax during a gameAlso fuck managing 20+ buttons
>>730668614Better approach is to make it a rule that you have to pick more heroes the higher rank you are. Expecting people new to the game to run in without being able to reliably have some prior familiarity with the heroes they'll likely end up being would make the game's accessibility even more of a brick wall than it currently is.
>>730668614I disagree, one tricking allows for some of the most craziest skill expression. A shiv one trick can do game breaking shit but if you force him to play Abrams he will be at best meh. Same thing with a Viscous main if you force him to play paigeMaybe when the game releases there will be a larger hero pool but if you only like certain kind of heroes your options are very limited.
>>730668614>>730669180One of the biggest things people forget about the class/hero shooter concept is that the whole idea is to appeal to many different people as possible through the variety of gameplay. People insisting you're not supposed to have a main and it's supposed to be some shitty rockpaperscissor game greatly misunderstand what gets people hooked on these games.
3 lanes
>>730669638THERE ARE FOUR LANES!
>>730669002an ineffective, complicated alternative for an already limited playerbase of what should be encouraging active discussion and testing of systems in development. realize how much cutting down and simplification the game's design from the matchmaking to laning and even to mid boss has already gone through.>>730669180you're mistakingly associating exposure of unintended buggy mechanics with skill expression and thinking they'd only be discovered through obsessive trial and error edge cases. outsides of hero specific abilities, most of the movement tech and core system interactions will be found organically through normal testing. don't forget that a third person moba will always be fundamentally fucked even if valve is making it.>>730669571>variety>just main something, bro. you'll get your variety thereno one mentioned rockpaperscissors and that's not the point anyway.sage. brainlet takes
>>730669728>unintended buggy mechanics with skill expressionIf you don't think Shiv's movements mechanics with his shotgun are skill expression then you are legit seeker. I'm not gonna pretend the rest of his kit is hard but he has a entire unique dimension of how he moves that's only really shared by Holiday/Viscous.
>>730669728>variety>just main something, bro. you'll get your variety thereYou've completely misunderstood. I literally said the variety isn't so an individual can have variety (though they are completely free to have it if the want it), it's so you appeal to as many different people as possible. With variety your guaranteed a given player will find a role they like playing, in which the dumbest thing would be to then insist they can't play it.>no one mentioned rockpaperscissorsIt's one of the most common takes people bring up when trying to argue against maining. That if you main you open yourself to getting countered, because the game is meant to be RPS or some bullshit. Granted that's less applicable in a game that doesn't allow switching mid-play, but then that should be clueing you in that the game is trying to accommodate maining in the first place.
>>730669721Kek
>Game is not even supposed to be available and "open" playtest is a thing thanks to uncle dane faggotry, valve even made another super sekirt client to fix this.>Despite everything and ingame warnings, schizos post steam chart as definite proof that nobody cares about that game and is dead #FIXTF2.I'm tired of this.
>>730665273This game appeals to the rare demographic of moba + shooter fans. Real Valve moba fans that enjoy tactical RPG type of mobas will play Dota because there's nothing else, League players wouldn't touch this because too many items aren't statsticks. Shooter fans hate moba mechanics normally, so they're probably turned away. Another problem is the game is too demanding to play casually, though this makes it more fun and engaging. It's alright, clearly not for me though as a Dota fag.
>>730670195Basically everyone in my steam friends list has gotten this game now. Not even deadlockfags are under the delusion that game is all that exclusive anymore.Steam activity is definitely some indicator of the game's popularity. Especially when the activity in the last spike pales in comparison to the spike the game had when invites first exploded. There's a definite vibe of "a shit load of valve fans played this but decided it wasn't for them".Maybe the upcoming big update will change things massively. The game does badly need alternate game modes that avoid the trappings of being an assfaggots.
>>730670630It's not done you dumb nigger.
>>730670630Not even beta, there still like a whole year or two of work, half of map and characters are obvious placeholders, there is ton of missing features, and shit is not even remotely balanced.Ladder treadmill is just there to keep retards busy.
>>730665273Why are you people obsessed with doomposting about a game that isn't out yet? Are you that bored?
>>730665273nothing its a highly experimental game its going to take time to iron out everything is it for me no because i cant aim but it will have a cult following wont ever be as big as dota 2 cs2 shit might not even be as big as tf2 and thats fine
>>730670902>no because i cant aimI can't aim either but still do wellJust main victor. Takes zero skill but you can carry games.
>>730671032>Sweats have been playing this for years already I'm not gonna bothert.normalfags when they release it in 5 years
add a pve mode and i will play it
>>730665273it's too hard
>>730670802The narrative when this game was first leaked was that it was already good. There wasn't supposed to be this big question of "will it become good" throwing the game's success up to a big "what-if" because the game becoming good was meant to have already happened.Again:>Maybe the upcoming big update will change things massively. The game does badly need alternate game modes that avoid the trappings of being an assfaggots.Plus people are remembering that dota 2 did not have these kind of drops in activity pre-release. Most deadlockfags have figured this out already.>>730671032Normal ass people are the very people least likely to even touch this game with a barge pole if it sticks with being the kind of game it is.
>>730665273Did the new characters finally release?
>>730667683Uhh where the fuck are the endless indie fighting games? Asking unironically because I'd like to think I watch the kusoge scene pretty closely and there's barely any coming out.
Every time I get frustrated, I get a Drifter or Warden game that I can turn my brain off to kill people or a McGuinnis game where I can be a disgusting rat.I just for one want to wait for the alt game modes, the ritual is fun but the core of this game would work in so many other types of game modes.
They keep making the map gayer, for one. Anyway, when the fuck are the new heroes coming? I only come back for a month or so when they add new heroes.
>>730669571Rock Paper Scissors is a no skill brainless game and any game that follows this balance method is equally no skill and brainless.
this game makes me feel like such a brainlet
For me it is she
>>730676104>Graves>Pepper>SilverThey really learned from the last update huhThank god really, I don't want more heroes like Calico that look repulsive.
>this game got me to stop playing dota even though I really wanted to play the frog, I would rather just grin ornaments to literally get png feelgood bucks Its pretty fucking good right now, I think the last changes were the best ones so far (orbs. defenders advantage for patron) if they get a decent casual aram game mode then its over for me
>>730676218I wish Calico wasnt grandfathered inMost dogshit design
>>730676704I have faith they will redesign her eventually like with Sinclair and Vyper. I'm fine with her not being anime cute but it still needs to change into something not repulsive.
>>730669571>class/hero shooter conceptisn't it a Moba, a genre where counterpicking is important at higher levels?
Where is the update yoshi....
>>730667067robin walker thought he could trust tf2fagslesson learned, now that community will suffer even greater
>>730679138Delayed until Slork is playable.
Street BROOL is gonna save the game.
