Does it actually work?
>>730665598NoI played it and I'm still dumb
I love the story of iwata and this guy hitting it off
>>730665832do you still play it?
>>730665598> Does it actually work?Yes.I have been playing every single day since 2006 and my IQ, according to recent tests at MIT and on several acedemically acclaimed facebook pages, is at 938.I am no longer legally allowed near WiFi-ready electronical equipment that I do not own and have to wear a goverment issued tracker as well as antitstatic bracelets everywhere I go, but... I guess that's the price for becoming literally too smart for my own good, thanks to Nintendo's Brain Age™
>>730666775This is ridiculous. Nobody on /v/ plays games let alone has an iq above 70.
>>730665598>started playing the 3ds game>it just made me angry
>>730665598It's like Wii Fit for your brain. Wii Fit doesn't really make you active alone, but it trains/conditions you to be conscious of your health. So in the same vein, Brain Age is good for if you straight up never do any sort of mental exercising and live on auto-pilot for most of your day, but it's not going to make you outright smarter. It's basically just priming your brain so that if you actually want to process information better, you can do it.
>>730665598No, but the 3DS version with n-back exercises does.
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>>730665598It certainly worked as a Wii U homebrew tool
>>730665598Probably not, but I get my daily dopamine from floating John Brainage head telling me I'm mentally 20 years old.
>>730669251wasnt that brain academy tho
>>730669315Any legit DS game, but Brain Age was the cheapest on the eShop.
>>730669356I see, I just remember having a discount code for brain academy and utilizing that
>>730665598Yes. Brain Age pulls you closer towards Enlightenment. If you use it for over 1000 days in a row you stop seeing shapes and begin SEEING concepts and ideas in its place
>>730665598that's pretty cool, but does it have John Cleese wishing you a happy birthday?I remember being all alone in a new town, it was december so cold and dark all the time and I haven't spoken to anyone for weeks and everybody seemingly forgot about me so when I start up this game on my birthday and John greeted me with geniunely wholesome birthday wish I legit criedI doubt it actually improves your brain but it was fun
>>730669578>play brain age for so long I filled all 4 save slots and couldn't play anymore without deleting saves>still can't beat battletoadsKawashima-Sama.. I have failed you..
>>730670114Brain Age Concentration Training has no such limits.>T. day 3000
>>730670114You repeat the motions, but you've yet to relax the brain to allow the dye to seep. Reflect on that.
>>730665598I've played it since release and I am now an Alakazam with 5000 IQ.
>>730665598As a demoralization tool? Yes.
>>730669089>the 3DS version with n-back exercises doesThis.3-back is genuinely hard as fuc
>>730665598should i play the originals or skip to the 3ds one
>>730671002>3-backI'm speaking from experience here:Achieving consistent 8-back feels absolutely amazing.And it completely changes how your brain functions.Once you can do 8-10 back or so, you will be taking in new information you read or hear and background processing it instead of dumping it out of short term memory immediately, only to come up with some good response or answer to a question shortly thereafter.Oh, and you'll actually be able to remember phone numbers, names, etc.Kawashima himself described it as a RAM upgrade for your brain in one of his miiverse posts
>>730671373>the 3ds oneThis.It has a bunch of the 'classic' brain exercises from the DS games included too.It lacks a traditional 'Age' score (like '20 years') like the original titles, but as long as you don't need that one number to keep at it, it's the best of the bunch.
>>730670297true, I have over 1000 days racked in that too but havent done the concentration training in years, quit at 6-back and prolly couldn't even do 3-back now, I just do the concentration challenge every once in a while for funs.
>>730669780aw, I would've wished you a happy birthday anon
>>730671667>quit at 6-back and prolly couldn't even do 3-back nowI've taken long breaks on n-back too.And every time I'm amazed at how little I've degreded. I'll bet you can hold 4-back no problem right now and would return all the way to 6-back in under a week.
Does this help prevent alzheimers and other mushbrain diseases?
You definitely get better at playing the game.
>>730672065Yes.N-back especially.But even simple shit like a daily sudoku puzzle does a lot.
Yes and no. Yes your brain is like a muscle, and it needs to be excercised/stimulated. No as in you cannot make your brain cognitively younger with training. Playing videogames and solving puzzles in them works, but so does things like sodoku or math or word puzzles to keep you stimulated. Theres a lot of science on this, just keep on keeping on.
>>730672146I really need something to improve my memory. I'm trying to learn new languages and keep forgetting my vocabulary.
....there's more than Fast 2-back?
>>730672384It tops out at fast 99 back, making it the single most difficult Nintendo game ever made.
>>730665598>the you realize you aren't getting smarter your just getting better at playing the game and all the activities are just preparing you for your wage slave life at a cuck-mart
>>730672146>>730672179I need something like this for my mom, she's starting to get dementia.
It won't make you smart but it does help your mind keep sharp. It's fun and only meant to be played only a few minutes per day, it's the perfect portable game, surprised nintendo never made it an app.You can't go wrong with any entry really, they all mostly include the same basic games with some variations, although I think the 3DS version is better suited after you've already played a previous version before. My full ranking:BA1: likely the best collectionBA2: some of the new games are good but not all and it's missing some ones i likedBA DSiware: mostly just smaller versions of the above and the new ones aren't that great but whatever it was nice to have on a DS without a cartridgeBA 3DS: The only true sequel, the devilish training is difficult and fun because of itBA Switch: Back to basics, has most of the original classics with some new ones that you won't care about.I hope we get a new one that has the devilish training bits again.
>>730665598No. Strictly speaking, you can only mitigate negatives when it comes to improving intelligence, you're hard capped by genetic factors.
>>730675437While true, it is shameful to not discover where your own INT cap is.
>>730671391Sounds like bullshit, but I want to give it a try because my memory sucks ass.Where would it be the best to play it? I found some website and tried out 2-back, seems easy enough, so I'm trying 3-back now.
>>730677748Best one in existence is unfortunately the 3DS game.No online brain training site comes close.
>>730678007huh, guess I will need to get into emulation at last
>>730678249might be annoying to play on emulator though as it's very touchscreen reliant
>>730678464downloaded Citra, same with the game.Sound seems fucky
Got sick a few weeks ago, since then I'm literally zapping out my memory in seconds. Am I cooked? I'll be thinking of one thing and then a microsecond think about something else and then completely forget both of the things I was thinking on.
>>730678756huh?
>>730678723>information addictionHah, first time I hear internet addiction being called that way.Oh, if it ends up really reliant on touchscreen, then I will see if I can install that on my phone.
>>730678913Oh, it works with drawing tablet, neat.
>>730678873I'll be thinking like hmm I'm really in the mood for some ramen then I'll be like sushi sounds good then my brain will be empty for like 2 seconds and then I'll completely forget to eat until like 2 hours later and I'm like "right I wanted to order out...."
>>730665598Yea.Most people aren't really using their brains on a day to day basis if they aren't in school or college.NOT using your brain for hard and exhausting thinking for a prolonged period of time WILL make you lazy and dumb. It won't happen over a week or a month but over a prolonged period of time. Games like this can help in a fun way.You have to up the difficulty periodically though, so it stays hard and exhausting. It is no use for your brain if you do the 1x1 every day on autopilot.
>>730672546???? arent there only 25 questions per attempt? how the hell do you do 99 back
>>730678723>>730679424>get to slow 2-back>start fucking up within few steps>get clocked at ~70 year oldShit
>>730671002>>730671391i genuinely cannot into n-back exercises without speaking my answers aloud. if i try to keep the info in my brain it gets scrambled when i try to calculate the next answer. this happens in shapes too, i'm trying to concentrate but there's just too much to remember. do i just have to keep at it?
>>730680070Every n+1 adds two problems per run
>>730680353>do i just have to keep at it?Also speaking aloud is a perfectly viable strategy.Until you get to the final mode 'Devilish Listening' where Kawashima speaks the math problems out loud and there is nothing on the screen.Try talking through that while listening.
>>730671391>Once you can do 8-10 back or soI'm not fucking Steven Hawkings mate
>>7306806245 minutes per day and you'll have this power unlocked before May.
>>730680765I already tried and get bored lazy actually after 5 days.It's over for me
>>730672002>I'll bet you can hold 4-back no problem right nowthread inspired me to start with a new profile from the beginning, barely made it all the way from 1-back to 4-back in those 5 minutes but didn't quite pull 100% in 4-back anymore>>730680353yeah I remember speaking them aloud when getting to the harder levels, it's kinda like storing the same information in 2 different ways
>>730680624This holy fuckI think I did 3 Back and it was hard as hell, I can't imagine 8 to 10
>>730681023>I think I did 3 Back and it was hard as hellThat's when you are ACTUALLY training your brain. Keep at it.
>>730680624>>730681023to be fair, steven hawking probably didn't imagine he could be steven hawking either. everyone starts somewhere.
>>730680765>>730681147Stop motivating meFUCK
>>730681009>1-back to 4-back in those 5 minutesNice
>>730681136this, SO much this. if something is hard, that means you're improving. challenging yourself is how you grow.
>>730665598All it did was slightly improve my writing, since the letter/number registering was pretty finicky
>>730681339>challenging yourself is how you grow.>keep playing the game for a year>brain grew so much>need an expansion for my headStop while you can lads
>>730671002>>730671391This shit made me realize I'm actually way smarter than I thought but I have such crippling self doubt that I second guess what I'm thinking and scramble my whole process. Learning to set aside the "am I doing this right" voice in mky head is the next step before any further progression.
>>730682117Most people are retards that have unearned confidence, you are capable of more than those faggots simply because you desire to be more
>>730681009Smartest Anon ITT
>>730665598>Does it actually work?Don't do this if you like your brain slick and smooth.It will get all wrinkly.
>>730666775wow you suck i got an iq of 201731 and i use telekenis to move stuff with my mind and i know youre response before it posted so nothing you do say or will do will beat me and my mind
Didn't they stop this series because some retard sued nintendo over the game not making him smarter?
you know someone out there probably marauding captain lock'd a meta deck and im proud of whoever it is
>>730680765not him, but I already put the emulator in the taskbar, so there hardly a chance to forget about it.
>>730683012no.There's a Switch game
>>730683219>using a task bar
>Brain Age test includes the remember where 25 numbers are>Your brain age is 45
>Do puzzles and shiet>Eventually you can almost turn your brain off and just complete them anywayAnd that's when it stops working. Unless you are ACTIVELY struggling mentally it's not a worthwhile exercise. Which incidentally also makes it a huge pain in the ass to do.
>>730684085The 3DS game gets harder if you win
>>730682717nigger
>>730684273For most people, it's not enough to just scale shit higher. Sure, it's harder but it's not making it more engaging. Sort of like vidja diffs upping health and damage. It's "harder" but it just feels cheap.
>>730684506You sound like a midwit
>>730683660Still better than me. I think I got a mild case of ADHD, I even see it in my mother.Devilish Cards can mess me up at times, but I got to level 7.
>>730684085>puzzles got too easy, wat doFind harder puzzles
Don't want to bother with emulationIs the Switch game any good?
>>730686765It doesn't seem to have n-back
>>730665832kekit do be like that tho
>>730686765Nintendo's website says there's "no issues" on Switch 2 support for it, but they also advertise minigames that use the S1 joycon exclusive IR camera.It did get a patch back in summer so maybe they added some workaround, or else you're simply fucked from part of the content on a S2.
>>730686765I think it has an unlockable n-back mode if you score a brain age of 20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Et_iDZK4Echttps://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Support/Nintendo-Switch/Game-Updates/How-to-Update-Dr-Kawashima-s-Brain-Training-for-Nintendo-Switch-1706546.html>Update 1.2:>Working Memory Challenge has been added to Daily Training.>Note: To use this feature, a Brain Age Score of 20 must be obtained after the update has been applied.If you can’t get a Brain Age Score of 20, there are hints in-game for alternative ways to access the feature.But I can't find a single YouTube video of that mode.
>>730665598I miss the casual DS and Wii games that had parents and grandparents want to play
fun brain age fact:The 3ds game, "Dr Kawashima's Concentration Training" was named "Dr. Kawashima's Devilish Brain Training" in every region except North America. This is because NoA believed Americans would not want to buy a game that advertises itself as difficult.
>>730690119it does feel kinda weird that they wouldn't include an exclusive minigame that makes use of the mouse mode. Like, the 3ds had klondike, so why not have minesweeper on the switch version?
>>730665598>button for Sudokuwhat the fuck japan
Didn't a study show the only thing that worked was N-back?Are there any games like this on steam?
>>730688794>>730691546Yes, it has n-back after some specifict update.
>>730665598It's mental stimulation for bored housewives who would otherwise be watching sitcoms for all eternityIf you play any non action video game you probably get about the same level of elevated brain activity, or more
>>730692847I think dual-n-back is stronger than most games
>>730690119you can pair original joy-cons to the 2 just fine>>730692401>it does feel kinda weird that they wouldn't include an exclusive minigame that makes use of the mouse mode.well it's just a switch 1 game, maybe if they do a switch 2 edition for it or new game they'll do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOL4SY-EJjkFound it at the 40:30 mark. Still no gameplay, is it just Devilish Calculations?
Can you play in emulator? Or is it one of those games only worth on real hardware?
>>730695027the game software works perfectly fine in an emulator, but the game is designed around the ds's form factor and might be uncomfortable to play without having that exact setup.
>>730665598>commit sudoku
>>730665598It makes you really good at brain training games, that's about it.https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1529100616661983?journalCode=psia
>>730697610>doesn't discuss n-backstudy discarded
>>730698436oh wow I didn't know Switch Brain Age had N back, need to replay it again.
It was the best digital take on Sudoku for the longest time. Pretty much got it just for that.
>>730672179What should I be watching or learning bros?
>>730666775ive never touched this game in my life and my IQ is 989, beat that, idiot.
>>730665598Not for you fat boy. You keep clogging your arteries, and vascular dementia is the Russian Roulette you play
>>730692414>button for SudokuThat's most of what I did with the game.
>>730665598I remember studies being done on the game.No, it doesn't work. All it does is condition you to git gud at the minigames included.
I wish this stuff worked
>>730672546i wonder if this is even humanly possible
>>730665598No I have yet to wake up Asian
>>730669089>>730671002i never played the 3ds gamethe fuck is this
>>730665598Brain age is only good for the dr Mario mini game and that's it
>>730700694NES Duck Hunt also had 99 levels and even computer can’t beat that
>>730701652in brain age there's a simple exercise where you just solve 20 math problems really fast. in the 3ds game, they make it more difficult by showing you a series of problems and making you remember the answers and the order they're supposed to go in
>>730665598>OP was repeatedly told this game is shit>just makes the thread over and over because he thinks the results will changeThis is a janny, isn't it
>>730665957fill me in
>>730665598No, games like this only train your brain to recognize patterns, and rpgs have even been documented to cause severe brain damage, depression and even dementia. You'd develop more mental elasticity routing shmups or playing through platformers with good movement.>sourceA team led by Simone Kühn found influential gaming neuropsychological consequences by studying adults who played Super Mario 64 for 8 weeks for 30 min daily for video game effects (Kühn et al., 2014). The study by Kühn et al. (2014) demonstrated that a 2-month intervention with platform video gaming induces structural plasticity effects in the right hippocampus (HC), right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (DLPFC), and bilateral cerebellum. The trained subjects experienced a volumetric increase in the right HC, linked to a shift from egocentric to allocentric navigation. A positive correlation was observed between the participants’ weekly ratings of their desire to play video games and increased gray matter in HC and DLPFC. The association between the reported desire and the DLPFC’s growth was more robust in the first month compared to the second. Therefore, the reported desires might cause DLPFC growth rather than DLPFC growth, causing an increase in desire.And curiously, people who played these games were documented developing a growing desire to play games.
