>Steam constantly breaks records nearly every weekWhat's their secret?
Monopoly. I wish someone started a Stop Killing Games kind of initiative aimed to forcing Valve to close Steam
Roblox
no public stock shareholders to appease or have the number go infinitely up at all cost
>>730684236retarded fanbase
>>730684373what kind of monopoly does valve do? do they buy publishing rights and release as only steam exclusives?
>>730684550This can't be stated enough. The second Gaben dies of a combination yacht accident/clogged artery is the exact moment Steam is going to go to shit and re-kill PC gaming like in the late 00's.
>>730684236their secret is not being retarded kikes, unlike literally every singke one of their competitors
>>730684373I can't believe Gaben got away with owning the one video games strore in the world.
>>730684550/thread
>>730684879The unfair monopoly of being the only ones who want to offer a good service!
>>730684374>dude just play a shitty "game" with 100 million shiteating faggot retard children in itとっても hard passmiss me with tha gay ass shit
Most of those are bots and scammers
Still not using steam
>>730684550>>730684913Throwing in my own (You)s. Shareholders are cancer.
>>730685136Nah that's Roblox
>>730684373>Steam is in a monopoly because every other online retailer chooses to be dogshitweird. Why do they do that?
>>730684373>>730684374>>730684673>>730684913>>730685136>>730685173Good morning, saars!
>>730685113>AAAAAA THIS OTHER PLACE DOESNT HAVE A FORUM PAGE!!!! AAAAAAA WHAT AWFUL SERVICE!!!!! I CAN ONLY BUY GAMES AND PLAY THEM ON YOUR SERVICE BUT I NEED THESE BLOAT FEATURES!!!
>>730685215Nah thats steam too, delusional to think otherwise
>>730685275Fuck off jeet. I'm not using your website that doesn't let you own the media you purchase.Get. Over. It.
>>730685471Are you really the best shill Tim could buy?
>>730685663I'll bite. What am I shilling for?
>>730684913Yeah, right now steam is a benevolent autocracy. Gaben is doing everything right for PC gamers and PC gamers are having a good life, whoever takes over after him has a good chance of just tanking the entirety of PC gaming and sending things back to the dark ages.
>>730685298yet the ones who dont use the bloat still buys games on steam, why is that, pajeet?
>Gaben is doing everything right for PC gamers and PC gamers are having a good life
>>730685689The death of a useful service in exchange for an egomaniac's malware storefront.
>>730685974Incorrect.
>>730684236>1th JanuaryIt's amazing how many people get paid for writing so badly. I don't want LLMs to replace all human writers but for fuck's sake, if you're too proud to have ChatGPT write it for you then at least ask it to fix the typos.
>>730684913The question is whether Steam employees want that. They're probably relatively comfortable, so Gabe's death wouldn't be a problem at first.The real risk is that the industry will plant a single guy there, preferably from some tribe with strong racial preference, and this single guy will start doing the long-term work to subvert the corporation. People do this with clubs, with non-governmental organizations, with institutions and foundations, even with entire governments, so why wouldn't they do it with such a successful and profitable corporation?So that's it, the death of Steam will not come with Gabe, but it will come with the slow internal subversion played by some member of some non-white tribe.
>>730685275Y-y-y-you can't criticize Steam ok!!!
>>730685715Cause jeets and third worlders use steam and arent very smart, next question
>>730686028Don't lie on 4chan, dikshit.
>>730685298Funnily enough the Steam forums are pretty much against Steam itself' own interests.They're always full of people bitching about how Valve banned them unfairly from game X or Y, about how their accounts were hacked and their inventory was stolen, denouncing Steam's shitty user service,demanding games to be released on GOG instead, etcetera. Basically they allow people who hate Steam or have all kind of issues with Steam to be vocal about them, making people hesitant about using the service.
Steam drones are insane. Imagine living in a huge empire and when you criticize the regime you are bombarded by fellow peasants saying shit like "But the government provides a good service?" "No on is forcing you to live in this country" "Don't like the tax? Just live in the wilds" but everyone with 2 working neurons knows you don't have a choice in this matter. GabeN is your PC gaming lord and you can't run away from his ecosystem. Sure his monopoly is like maybe at 50th place when it comes to most harmful monopolies we have to deal with in this modern world but screaming "OTHERS ARE JEWING TOO WHY GET MAD AT GABEN WHEN HE IS ONLY BEING 90% JEWISH?" "YOU HAVE TO STEAL FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL SO IT'S OKAY TO BE SCUM AND HAVE NO ETHICS" is not a valid excuse. Valve is evil, gayben is evil and they deserve to die just like every other leech system in place. Any questions?
>>730686664>GabeN is your PC gaming lord and you can't run away from his ecosystem.GOG and the EGS exist. Itch.io exist.
>>730686836Literally no one cares. You, me and everyone use steam even tho we hate it. We just tolerate his bullshit just like how we tolerate windows and how we tolerate our shitty corrupt country. I think at the very least recognizing this is the first step in the right direction.
>>730686646>making people hesitant about using the service.This isn't true, given that the peak CCU keeps increasing.
>>730686943You're posting from india! Fuck off.
>>730686943Plenty of people use both so there are people who care.You could close your Steam account tomorrow and migrate to GOG and the EGS tomorrow and you wouldn't have any issues.
>>730686664Dont careDidnt readStay mad peasantALL PRAISE LORD GABEN
>>730686550Calm down. Nobody wants to have a conversation with a screeching cultist.
>Dont care>Didnt read>Stay mad peasant>ALL PRAISE LORD GABEN
>>730687186So why are you here? You're a blatant corporate shill and have been blatant for as long as you've been posting on 4chan.
>>730687169I'll leech of his steam servers while not spending money on his games. I'll pirate all games. I'll buy stolen keys if I have no choice but to get the game on steam. I'll spam anti gaben threads every day. I am literally unstoppable.
>>730687314if you truly wanted his attention you could just write an electronic mail Anon, no need to parrot the jeets
>>730687308Am I not allowed to criticize a billion dollar corporation?
>>730687413Nah, I don't want to fuck him. I don't like to do it with fatsos not even to show dominance.
>>730684236
>>730687420If you were honest about it, but you reek of curry and sharted pyjamas.
steam derangement syndrome is the funniest shiti read timmy's clown twitter all day and lol hard when he always does the polar opposite of gabei laugh when companies like amazon and epic who have bottomless pits of money only "disrupt" instead of actually try and then cry when they flopevery time gabe newell buys something, it's front page news on /v/the best "insult" people can come up with is "steamie"none of these retard execs will ever get itlmfaololrofl
>>730686943>You, me and everyone use steamspeak for yourself, cattle
>>730687542Which criticism did I make that was dishonest?
>>730684550Valve is the greatest example of why you should NEVER go fucking public with your company.
>>730687591I prefer "PC vegan" to be honest. It really seems to piss you guys off for some reason.
>>730687927Valve spearheaded every cancerous practice in the industry without going public so that's a bad example
>>730687908>bloat featuresFundamentally dishonest about the breadth of useful services that Valve offers through their infrastructure.>calling everyone but yourself a jeet or cultistHardcore projection because you're a greedy brown rapebaby who shits in the street.>'GabeN is your PC gaming lord and you can't run away from his ecosystem'Tell your boss to make a better service, you nasty little indian.
>>730688161You mean trying to become independent from Microsoft and Windows? Oh dear consumer think of the children or something!
>>730685209i'll always be reminded of a nintendo shareholders meeting where one of them complained that iwata was spending too much time talking about videogamesmotherfucker did you even look at what you invested in?
>>730688271I didn't say any of those things. The person who mindbroke you is not me and I refuse to take credit for his work.
>>730687927People startup companies to make money. If some retarded investor gave them money why would they decline? Gayben is just lucky he managed to buyback enough shares to reach the magical 50.1% number to become the majority shareholder. He could have been cucked at any time.
>>730688278>You mean trying to become independent from Microsoft and WindowsNo I didn't mean that. Are you capable of honest discussion?
>>730688381Okay, so he's your co-worker or something. I don't care. You're both, as they say, irredeemable.
>>730684236because they offer a better product/service >>730684373this is cope. Anyone is free to use other software
>>730688448Cope microjeet.
1. Listen to the autists2. Don't disobey the autistsIt's literally that simple.As a CEO once you've attained the autist fanbase all you have to do is literally nothing.If autists tell you you're enshittifying your product in any way shape or form there's a good chance they're right and you're wrong and all you have to do it listen to them.See Microslop as the counterexample. Autists have been telling them they were enshittifying the product for every release after XP. Microslop had literally over two decades to change course, and now their market share will be completely taken over by linux.If you make a good product, autists will flock to you.
>>730684236GabeN keeps doing nothing and keeps winning, simple as
>>730688531>and now their market share will be completely taken over by linux.i really wish this would happen, but it won't
>>730688080Is that because it's a retarded term? It's literally nonsense.
>>730688518I'll take that as a "no">>730688473Not my co-worker either. I'm sorry you are so dishonest.
Shouldn't you be defending pedophiles sweeneyshills?
>>730688531>looks at Minecraft>looks at Dwarf Fort>looks at furry pornIt really is that easy
>>730686984I've definitely not bought games because of information I found on the steam forums.
>>730688632It will. The only ones still holding on are American based MNCs.Foreign countries are already looking into or adopting open source or homegrown alternatives out of security concerns. Once their governments fully migrate, all their offices and workplaces will flip in a day.
>>730688658>Is that because it's a retarded term?Why are you asking me this question? PC vegan doesn't bother me. >It's literally nonsense.And? Did you have a point?
>>730688741Not Valve's problem. If devs want to act in a shady manner, the consequences are on them.
>>730688689>Timmy shits on Valve for AI disclosures>Timmy adds gambling to Fortnite>Timmy defends Elon's AI making CPWhy did he go off the deep end?
>>730686239Try criticizing it then, instead of making retarded jeet shitposts.
The EGS shills have seething everyday now every couple of hours. They always make the same retarded arguments about how you should hate valve...because you should...Everyone knows Valve is just objectively the best and most pro consumer and every company is seething because theyre not getting that pie.
>>730688807Touchy.
>>730688681It's true that jeets only lie when they're awake.
>>730688878>Not Valve's problemIt sort of is, because they aren't getting my money from what could have been a purchase.
>>730684236>What's their secret?Staying the same while every other game company (except GOG probably) gets shittier and shittier. That's it.
>>730688949
>>730684673He's right many people buy games they don't even play. It's like the Amazon of vidya.
>>730688975I'm sure they're crying because they missed out on one game purchase a year from you.
>>730688975But typically, money that is not spent on whatever you were considering will go to a different game, if you're still in a buying mood.
>>730688975they don't need to care about your money as long as they have mine
>>730684236Being a privately held company and not beholden to some greedy small hat board of directors constantly kvetching about money being left on the table yadda yadda.it's fun to hate steam, but holy fucking fucking cunty fuck, imagine if MS had managed to take over online distribution of games instead. They'd cunt you with windows update and all sorts of extremely abusive jeet cuntery.
The reason Steam's numbers keep going up is the same reason games get higher play numbers on launch nowadays: more and more thirdies getting access to the Internet.
>>730688632Its actually very possible since several countries are abandoning Windows for Linux because most people figured that having such obvious privacy concerns might be bad for government and hospitals https://youtu.be/SrtJAw57Wkw
>>730689104>OOPS WE NOTICED YOU'RE NOT USING THE MOST RECENT BROKEN UPDATE THAT BRICKS CERTAIN CPU'S, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO PLAY THIS GAME
>>730688952Dishonest.
>>730688962Couldn't tell ya
>>730689213that's terrifying>we noticed the windows update service has been disabled, re-enable it to play this game>now cunting and fisting your computer with 27 random fucking updates that you absolutely did not want, and nothing to do with the game you wanted to play.I FUCKING HATE JEETSOFT.
>>730689096Thank you for funding my purchase. I'll continue to pirate.
>>730689371Lost Planet 2 is still fucked by GFWL.
>>730688975It isn't. If you don't buy one game that frees up time for another. Unless you don't actually game then your impact will be minimal anyways.
>>730689104>I spearheaded every cancerous industry practice, and did so without a single shareholder whispering in my earIndeed
>>730684236>>730685863>>730687258Bots, they are bots that farm CSGO skins or anything that gains money through long term trading. You supporting the scammers and you’re losing money not doing the same thing.
>>730689506he was never going to buy games anywayhe just doesn't want anyone else to buy games either
>>730689617Meds
>>730689096Unfathomably based
>>730684236>What's their secret?bots
>>730689617Its literally always the fucking schizo response to call everything bots even when theres evidence contradicting your retarded claims
>>730688448Are you?
>>730689643i have almost 300 games, fuck you.
>>730684236CSGO, basically.I think people who pledge loyalty to a company just because of a convenient service are retarded.
>>730689883People using a free to access website and playing free games doesn't need any explanation.
>>730684550Removing a whole layer of vultures (aka loads of payments) just to keep doing what works always makes for a better end result. I can't remember a single company that got better by having 'shareholders'.
>>730690037Good goy
>>730688596microsoft tried to copy sony but forgot to build up a cult fanbase first
>>730689983Are you?
>>730684373If your way to stop a monopoly isn't making new competition but closing the biggest actorThere's maybe something wrong going on and doing that won't solve anything
>>730684236Bots
>>730690037>all piratedthat's why nobody cares about your opinions
>>730689883Anon most steam users just play f2p games, most played games on Steam are Valve titles, and Valve titles are like 90% bots >>730689880
>>730684373Valve has competition, and they don't directly try to interfere with their competition. There's nothing Valve does that would prevent you from buying games on EGS, or the Microsoft Store, or GoG, but the vast majority of pc gamers choose to spend money on Steam because the others can't even come close to Steam's advantages. Innovating and delivering a better service is positive for consumers and we should expect companies to do it. Success does not equal monopoly.
>>730684236They just got there first. Same story as netflix. They don't do anything remarkable. They're 100% replacable and utterly irrelevant if you own a PS or Xbox.
>>730690538No, the pirates got there first.
>>730690468hell, Sweeney even bragged that EGS was made to free developers from having to answer to their customrs by guaranteeing them money even if nobody bought their game, and in most cases did everything in their power to prevent customers from even accessing their exclusives
>>730690059>CSGOoutdated
>>730684373Who would even be on the side of a movement like that? People actually LIKE Steam, you can't convince them to ally against it.
>>730690752Why do you let this guy live rent free in your head?
>a game comes out>its not on steam>drones of indians spam every discussion about the game with "NO STEAM, NO BUY"
>>730690869who, Tycho and Gabe? because they're funny
>>730684373>I wish Steam would shut down so my company could succeed
>>730690936only Epic and GOG use actual jeet shills
>>730685298steam provides so much for both developers and consumers, if you want to beat steam maybe you should work on how to give instead of how to take
>>730684236Good business practice. Steam has never stepped outside its area, it's just a small company of specialists who are good at their jobs.
>>730684236thank you indiathank you chinathank you russiathank you brazilfor keeping steam great
>>730691108liberals can't do thatall the people they hate live rent free in their heads forever, and they can never not be mad about it
>>730691045And Steam
>>730684236Consistant service. Not even good service. Service that has stayed the same and hasn't enshittified itself yet.Soon as they introduce something that changes the status quo from "Yeah, Steam, it's the default easy setup." piracy will be back in vogue.
>>730691045Valve is the jeet company, anon
>>730684236>What's their secret?Their competition
>>730685298If gog had as good ux as steam it would be an actual competitor to them
I for one find super funny how the Steam forums are full of people asking help for the console versions of their games, help for games they got from the EGS or help for things they bought outside Steam like keys.
>>730691003>gaming focused web comic is funny>I support valveChecks out
>>730685089What are you trying to say?
>>730691209Indeed.
I demand a better quality of antagonistic shill, Tim. These browns you're sending aren't so smart!
>>730685115he never told you to play it, he offered an example that in the same space, there's a market competitor that boomers don't even realize that is more successful
>>730691347thanks! have a rare chuddha
>>730691404Calm down, ranjeet. I'm just criticizing a billion dollar corporation.
>>730684236>works with SBI>donate money to democrats>forced to buy up all the single most woke studios and devs>censor anime and other" problematic" stuff>inventor off ALL the most greedy stuff that plague gaming atmhmm I wonder why (((they))) get pushed so much as the standard
>>730691250
>>730691475Valve is far wealthier than a mere billion dollars, Sukdik.
>>730684236>steam blastsBLAST BROSWE'RE SO BACK
>>730691661Good to know.
Wanna know what will finally beat Steam?A store that runs you game remotely. Stadia without latency. Which is feasible when data centers are everywhere.
The only people who have moral authority to shit on Steam are the ones who oppose the digital only, cloud landscape and the idea of digital """""ownership"""""".Sadly the ones making these threads happen to be Epic shills.
>>730691720>[web service] without latencyThis is literally impossible.
>>730684913cant wait to open steam the week after he dies and find half my library gone with a new "AI assistant" feature and its just Clippy and he forces you to play co-op and feeds
>>730684373>fuck making a better more competitive platform than steam but also FUCK STEAM REEEEEEEEElmao
How long will VaIvedrones do the "anyone that says anything bad about Valve is an epicshill shtick?"
>>730691775Not when the data center running the process is right next door. No drinking water is a small price to pay.
>>730687507KEK
>>730691867As long as it keeps being true!
Reminder if you are one of the 95% of PC "gamers" using Windows you have no reason to support the steam monopoly
>>730691941Shouldn't you got back to /fuckepic/, Ranjit?
>>730691867There will always be goycattle worshiping brands and deflecting criticisms. Just how it is.
>>730684373The "monopoly" in this case is having a better service.
>>730692006I want Gabe to get himself a new yacht
>>730691867When you call it a monopoly you are an epicshill wanting people to put chinkware on their computer
>>730692135I'm afraid I'm not as familiar with it as you clearly are.
>>730692251>wanting people to put chinkware on their computerYou mean Steam?
>>730684236selling video games
>>730691250my guy even commies like steamthe hatred towards them is actually more horseshoe like and age divided, with leftist journos and boomers that don't play games hating them
>>730684236every other company that does what they do sucks
>>730684373That's strange because I remember having 5-10 storefront/launchers I've had to use over the years and the only reason most of them no longer exist is because they sucked so much ass that people actually would not buy games simply because it involved using them.
>>730686943
You just know they hire the most braindead retarded shill agency when they're this fucking bad and blatant with their jobIt really hard to argue against Steam when they're the most consumer friendly optionShills also don't never have an answer on who is better than steam because they're at least aware enough to know that'd be TOO retarded to admit whos paying them. Most people already use Steam in conjunction with GoG, every other storefront on PC fucking sucks ass and isn't worth it.
>>730684236All other platforms are shit, so people have no choice but to use steam because no other company can make a usable product as they are all beholden to investors so they are forced to make their product shit, steam is not
>>730687591>we spent 15 years trying to dethrone Steam and we never realized until the end that we should just try building something that isn't complete shit to use.It's marketers buying their own bullshit. It's like they forgot that their whole business model is lying to their consumers and then started drinking their own kool-aid and trying to fuck their own asses.
>>730684236Simplicity. It also spawned a bunch of Seething "people" who want to take it over and make it public
>>730692728How much do you get paid to defend Gaben, Kumar? Like at least be less obvious about it.
>>730692846answer the question I proposed in the postwhat is your alternative to steam and explain in detail why.What is actually negative about Steam
>>730693093Nothing, not using a DRM platforms that collects your data and have useless bloat.Why the fuck would you WILLINGLY use that and then get mad at devs for not putting their games (and be forced to censor them) their?Why does it make you so mad Kumar when games are not on Steam?
>>730691745You own your digital games if they dont have drm or online requirements.
>>730693220So basically you have no answer and you get mad that people actually have an answer and use steam?Why would you be mad unless you were getting paid?, if you wanted to just pirate this wouldn't matter to you.Youre a paid shill who cant come up with good arguments and you dont have an answer because youre a braindead third worlder who gets paid for pennies for being a body , youre not paid for your mind
>>730693220If you hate corporations making money, then i hope you endorse piracy, or you would be one hell of a hypocrite
>>730693220You still aren't answering the question. So you advocate going back to physical or are you advocating for non-DRM Digital a la GOG? In that case, how would you deal with piracy?
>>730688080>"PC vegan"what doesn't even that mean? I guess that is insult because ''vegans, lol'' but what does it mean?Like PC only? but I used to play on consoles too, even have rotting PSP somewhere in my deskOnly PC games? I emulated like dozen consoles and played hundred console games?explain, why i should be even angry at this? outside ''vegans bad, lol''
>>730693454>>730693648I answered your question and all you do is get mad?How much is Gaben paying you, how do I get a job as a shill? Do I have to contact his friends Larry Fink or so?
>>730693420Only if you have the installers on your own off-line hard disks / RAID arrangement; otherwise is worthless.
>>730693831its a forced buzzword anon don't think about it too hard
>>730684913Surely he's been grooming a succesor?
>>730693894>I answered your question You didnt, which is why I responded with saying that you have no answer. Youre a faggot being paid to shit on consumer friendly stores and products because mr.sheckleberg is mad that the goy are happy.
>>730693894Just answer the question. Do you want to return to physical or do you want DRM-free digital?In case of physical, how would you deal with the current game sizes and bug fixes? have in mind how we're talking about games completely independent with online so no day one downloads, patches or the like.In case of DRM-Free digital, how will you deal with the possibility of the store / developer / publisher removing it from the store and making it impossible to download? In both cases, how will you deal with piracy?
>>730691250sigh
>>730693965you could call her that
>>730684236Teenage guys are abandoning consoles in favor of gaming PCs. People I work with have teenage and college-age kids, and basically every gamer guy age 15-22 has moved on to primarily PC & Steam gaming.
>>730693831PC vegans because vegans will mention they are vegan unprompted, sort of lile how you start babbling about emulation
>>730684236>What's their secret?Not fucking over their customers every chance they get.Yes, it really is that simple.
>>730686209Oh fuck off with your "da joos" psyop you glowie. There doesn't need to be a single person of the semitic persuasion around for the shareholders to ruin Steam apart the second Gabe is cold in the ground. You seriously think people who own shares for a living need to be Jewish to rip the copper out of the walls? This is why you're so easy to control.
>>730694135>In both cases, how will you deal with piracy?Why would we deal with it? Why are you so hellbent on defending multibillion corporations, Kumar?All the biggest games on PC are OUTSIDE of steam, how did they manage that when it's impossible according to you?
>>730693831Who even started that name? I feel like only one schizo uses it
>>730684236first mover advantage + being the second least shitty storefront gog's DRM-free games can't be beaten. any other questions?
>>730684373oh shut up timmy, go chew on a remote or something
>>730694598>Why would we deal with it?Publishers/devs won't sell on your site then. See; GoG and its tiny catalog because they are afraid of selling a game without anti-piracy measures in place.
>>730694595>has a meltyyep. jews.
>>730685115>とっても hard passpass is pasu or kekkou desu you moron
>>730694585The jews that has been sued multiple times for breaking BASIC CONSUMER rights are not fucking over the customers?The corporation that is responsible for inventing ALL the most predatory practices we have in the industry now?
>>730684236Only 42 million? I thought there was more than that
>>730694515so its mean nothing and you are just retarded
>>730694585>Not fucking over their customers every chance they get.Valve cultists are blind
A service that works and isn't overtly hostile to it's user.
How do I get paid to work as a Steam shill, do I contact Valve or do I go to their boss, George Soros directly?
>>730684373No one is stopping people buying games from Epic or GOG.
>>730694598I love how you keep not having an answer to these questions and expect us to think anyone would be on your side.In the end youre basically admitting that Steam is just the answer and you dont have any reasonable argument to be against it
>>730694635There's a lot to be said for actually being designed around providing a service instead of rent seeking through subscriptions. That's also why the company will die once Gabe dies and the company goes public, because the new owning shareholders will demand that their puppet CEO restructure the company around rent seeking.
>>730684550This
>>730694704nobody cares, dork
>>730694864>ooh yeah you don't want to use a DRM launcher platform that collects your data and sells it to china?>WELL how else is Valve suppose to make billions of dollars?>Heh curious, I am very smart I gotcha thereAre you real?
>>730694893Valve right now is hardly even run by Gabe Newell thanks to its flat structure
>>730694864why are you even responding to this dude?
>>730684236>1th of january
>>730694981what the fuck...?AI?
>>730684236it is only a matter of time before jews grab gabe by his nutswrite down my words
Shut up fags>>730684236
>>730694779I told you what it means, ESL
>>730692728Anon I'm sorry we are politely discussing steam in your EGS obsession thread.
>>730684373differently from most social media where winner takes all you can buy any game from any platform at any time
>>730695072>illiterate ESL calling other ESLnah, you didn't, you just projected some schizo babble, now fuck off
>>730694948Oh so now that you have no comeback or argument you've gone to fearmongering and making shit up.>>730694978Its interesting to see how far you can push someone who clearly has no answers. All these anti-valve threads have one clear thing and its that nobody has an actual answer to whats better than Steam. They'd rather twist themselves into knots than giving straightforward answers
>>730693093>what is your alternative to steam and explain in detail why.Walmart and Target. They let me own the video games I purchase.
Gabe could give you a hooker with every purchase and the deranged faggots on this board would make several dozen threads about how that is somehow a bad thing lol.
>>730695154Fuck your mother, bitch
>>730695169>Reddit spacing>disingenuous>obvious paid shillJust go back
>>730693420No you don't.
>UHMMM WHAT ELSE WOULD WE USED IF NOT STEAM!?Nothing>NOOO STOP SAYING THAT YOU ARE REFUSING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION REEEE!You can¨t even talk to the shills, even if you answer them they will just talk in circles.
>>730693831It doesn't need to mean anything. It's like snoy. It doesn't mean anything, it's just a slur.
>>730695230You will never answer the question that was originally asked of you.Im surprised you dont kill yourself after being clearly outmatched.
>>730695226fuck your 2 fathers, you cocksucker
>>730695321see >>730695287I won't talk in circles with you, Kumar.
>>730695362Lol you want to fuck two guys
>>730695287>nothing But you were advocating for consoles, which are even worse than steam. Lol
Indian automatized trading cards/bananas/nfts farms
>SAAR you must release it on steam how else can I make use of steam bucks I redeem and bot saar!
>>730695287Nothing isnt an answer. The original question is "what is your alternative to Steam"By saying "nothing" you actually concede and admit that Steam is the objectively best and option and prove me correct
>>730695287>nothingso you dont play games?>inb4 I pirate everything k post your pirated games folder
>>730695171You have less braincells than the average Steam shill
>>730694725>>730694784Ok so how have Valve specifically fucked over their customers in a way that other stores have not? And don't give me any retarded bullshit like refunds, nobody offered those until a precedent was made against valve specifically. Everyone else was just too irrelevant to be involved in the legal case.
>>730695460NTA, anything with physical media is more consumer friendly than steam. Including any PC storefront that decides to do this. This isn't a "PC sucks!" criticism you sensitive PC vegan.
>>730695531>>730695610>>730695460I know it's hard for you zoomers to realize this, but you don't have to use a DRM platform to play games...crazy right!?All the biggest PC games of all time are outside of steam, but is that possible when it's impossible according to you.Elaborate on this shills.
>>730684236Look at the breakdown per country
>>730695690>All the biggest PC games of all time are outside of steam, but is that possible when it's impossible according to you.but I was told steam is a monopoly?
>The VaIvedrones got so mad they started to make more shill threads in the catalogMINDBROKEN
this dude has lost his mind and is now posting on cooldown huh?
>>730695784And here it comes, you don't elaborate or discuss when I answer. Instead you start talking in circles like I said here >>730695287Not gonna bother replying to the shills anymore
>>730695690you're delusional if you believe they wouldn't make their own worse drm services if not for steamyou're talking about some gay anarchist fantasy pretending like a prisoner's dilemma with tens of thousands of agents is even possiblein reality if not for steam you'd have fifty different accounts with people who hate you way more than valve and you'd get consistently raped by data breaches so have fun with that
>>730695690And yet all of them don't let me own it physically, I.E. own the fucking game.
>>730684550>why does valve line continuously go up?>because they have no shareholders forcing line to continuously go upkek shareholders btfo
>>730684879monopoly on not being shit
>>730695531See>>730695171
>>730685298post your EGS library
>>730695612Good talk.
Kek the obvious EGS shill is getting fucking ravaged.Sorry but I'm going to still use Steam. Most people are. Your paid shill campaign has been going on for years and you haven't changed anyones mind
>>730686080>ruizhe's just a beaner looking to make a living 300 page views at a time
No Reyansh, I won't use your woke censorship store.No Reyansh, I won't support Sweet Baby Inc and DEI hires.
>>730696119
>>730696206>No Reyansh, I won't use your woke censorship store.where will you be buying it from anon haha just asking haha?
>"No, you are the epic shill">"No, you are the steam shill"Convincing arguments anons
>>730684236Being first was important. Not being retarded was even more so. Valve rivals have more money and power and yet... they don't get it. Valve is safe and can only fall on its own when the company's leadership change.
>>730694916of course you don't you worthless dekinai
>>730696307there are like 4 different things people are arguing in favor of, it's a pain in the ass
>>730695653>physical>consumer friendlylol
>>730694960his shares will go to his son. he will sell the company and cash his check and then steam will go to shit
>>730684236The entire world is burning and somehow they are doing just fine. They are part of the corruption.
>>730696509This!
>>730696281>buying>games you can't ownGood one.
>>730696307Most of the general public is actually positive about Steam and Valve so the chance of being paid Valve shills is actually low because they already have a good standing in the eyes of the public Sweeney has not only actually hired shills who's whole goal was to "Disrupt Steams organic traffic" but it has been KNOWN that during EGS launch that /v/ was getting spammed by actual EGS paid shills and that it later stopped only to be restarted recentlyThere actual documentation on the archive to proof that anyone saying anything positive about EGS was likely a shill and the pattern of anti-valve threads are more than likely carried by paid shill operationshttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/730365552/#730386605> I personally noticed the shilling campaign start up in May of 2025https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/Dead%20Island%202%20free%20on%20Steam/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/subject/Tiny%20Tina%27s/text/epic%20store/>before then similar threads like these were spammed before it suddenly stopped (possible funding cut from sweeney?)https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/Ark%20Survival%20%20Samurai%20Shodown/page/1/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/Torchlight%202%20free/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/gFXi1kdjGSuMYwfOZi4VUw%3D%3D/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/game%20store%20battle/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/Steam%20so%20far%20has%20only%20countered%20with/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/annual%20survey%20valve/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/earn%20their%2030/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/subject/world%20war%20z%20pricing/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/steam%20drones%20are%20honestly%20pathetic%20at%20this%20point/I even recognize the exact same posting pattern done in recent anti-valve threads. this is either one person or maybe even a bot because its a hell of a coincidence to see similar writing today
>>730696509Correct. Physical media is more consumer friendly than digital media. Sorry this criticism is more than you can handle.
just in case you people haven't noticed, the ideologically posessed retard arguing against steam is the same tendie spammer that dismisses all criticisms with non answers like you'll survive, false and opinion notedbash nintendo and he'll cry
>>730696786>Searching for posts with the image hash ‘/UMpBk1G0LOBsigXRo0jpA==’. 47 results found.And this is with you editing the pic all the time. How much do they pay you?
>>730696786you also have this
>>730696786You say this in the board where saying where jannies used to ban you for making anti steam poststo this day the word steamdrone or valvedroᥒe is filtered to pcbrorefer to >>730696307 which describes you accurately "everyone i don't like is a shill"
>>730696524This is just fearmongering, the company would run fine without Newell for like another decade more, i really doubt they'd go public simply because just as they are now they are printing a hell of a lot of money with each employee being valued insanely high, but without a face theyre be harder to see as anything else but another corp.
>>730696860Good to know.
>>730696786You seriously post all that shit and dare to call someone else a shill? Are you guys for real?
>>730684373>Monopoly.learn the word
>>730696934>to this day the word steamdrone or valvedroᥒe is filtered to pcbroevery consolewar filter was added on the same day
>>730696965kill yourself, nintendo will go digital and you'll cry yourself to sleep
>>730690204Yea, and guess how you build up a cult fanbase...You make fucking games.
>>730696860>you can't answer my question>btw if you do answer my question, I'll say you are my boogeyman from a different thread
>>730696968Hah thats an old EGS shill image ive seen in your threads before. Youre admitting that (You) really ARE the same person and the same shill thats spammed from years before
>>730696934>spam the same shitpost thread a dozen times a day>jannies do their fucking jobs for once and sweep your garbage up>whine that you personally are being targeted for shitting on steamMods are provably massive fucking tendies I can't imagine a world where you believe that mods/jannies sweep it up for gabe. The reality is you probably spammed the same OP image for several days and caught a ban for being an annoying nigger.
>>730697000Sure.
>>730697096So you are even fucking admitting you're just a VaIveshill now?Do you get paid at least?
>>730697092my response wasn't in fact answeredunless you want do do it for him in which case feel free to do so>>730695882 it's this one
>>730697110Anon the /v/ mods fucking made a sticky for the TF2 comic, they are the biggest VaIvedrones of all.
>>730696642Add NTA next time you retardJust because I also hate Steam doesn't mean you get to get argue your retarded physicalfag shit
>>730697110Jannies do their job, yeah sure. They let ai threads, off topic spam, pol niggers shit up the place but oh no one anon posted gaben's yacht BAAM BANNED. One anon posted something about gamer gate BAAM pruned.
>>730697219they should make a console board where you niggers can seethe at each others about sales numbers because that's all you fucking do apparentlythe pc board would of course be friendly to all games that can be emulated
>>730697096>LE EPIX CATTO, I FIT INYup you're pressed.
>>730697219and they let smash bros rosterfaggotry be 75% of threads on the catalog for months straight what is your point? And when pressed Abib said it was a "cultural phenomena" while actively deleting threads for other games.
>>730697161Theres no such thing as a "valveshill" I've noticed your spam from years ago and noticed they coincided with EGS recent launch. For all the time /v/ has claimed poster to be paid shills this was the one definitive activity I've noticed that without a shadow of a doubt proved to me that Tim Sweeney was paying low wage 3rd worlders to spam across various forums including 4chan to try to get EGS seen in a positive lightYour very specific formatting with your constant spam and coinage of phrases made it clear as day.
>>730697379How much do they pay you?
>>730697169>steam is so very very good!>actually steam is terrible but at least they're not the worstTo answer your question, physical copies sold ar walmart and target were better than steam. Sorry this truth causes you pain.
>>730697306>but oh no one anon posted gaben's yacht BAAM BANNED. One anon posted something about gamer gate BAAM pruned.>one bro there were dozens of those threads up 24/7 what is this pathetic gaslighting? Any time these steam deranged faggots hop online there is a thread up crying about it all fucking day long. And the second that shit gets pruned or archived its immediately remade.
>>730697219Also this.I don't fucking understand how anyone can complain about nint𐐬ddler𐑈 when the elephant in the room steamdrones exist. They are literally mods themselves. Why do you think this shithole shills steam relentlessly? Because mods endorse it while banning anti steam posters half the time. Nint𐐬ddler𐑈 are fucking cancer too but only because mods are cancer themselves. Remember when /v/ sent that stupid birthday card? Remember when some nigger mod claimed smash is a cultural exception so it's okay to spam smash threads?ak12 poster was right
>>730697306> One anon posted something about gamer gate BAAM pruned.Spammed multiple times a in week.Dont lie we all saw those threads because it was spammed so often
>>730696864>>730696968https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20705652-epic-games-store-presentation/Forever... cucked.
>>730697309>the PC vegan says in a brand worship thread over user numbers
>mods aren't tendiesnewfags?
>>730697225Awww sorry did I ruin your catch? I can speak whenever the fuck I want.
>>730697503nigger, mods are corpo bootlickers and this was proven many times. They explicitly deleted all gamer gate and anti valve/nintend𐐬 posting for a reason. Moot is a nigger sell out so are mods.
>provide a service>don't get too greedy and scare off vendors or users>don't fuck up what doesn't need fixingit's that simple
>>730697521Did EGS release a yearly report? Is that why theres been a swarm of paid shilling recently?
>>730697448yet steam still has the best refund terms of any platform and they're actively trying to open it by funding linux and soon even phones will be able to play pc games seamlessly while your tendieboxes and snoyboxes are desperate to get you into their cult where you can only use their services by force>physical copies sold ar walmart and target were better than steam. are you too much of a zoomer to remember how cancerous physical drm was getting? disc always in, limited activationswould be even fucking worse if they lived to current day
>>730697336>they let threads discussing video games existYes.
>>730696802>own Ps1 disk>can't use it on a Ps4, Ps5, Xbox, or SwitchYou said it was consumer friendly wtf?
>>730697630Not yet, it should be next month.
>>730697601Nigger we know youre spamming these threads dont act like a victim for properly being disposed of like a pest
>>730697619>don't get too greedy and scare off vendors or users>takes 75% from mods>takes 99% from workshop items>takes 30% from indieslollmao even
>>730697670>rosterfaggotry>discussing videogames
>>730684373I wish someone started a petition to make being an EGS shill a bannable offense on /v/
>>730697709you are not even a janny yet still doing it for free
>>730697653>steam still has the best refund terms of any platformI literally don't care. I've never once refunded a game. And all their games should be free until they give me a license I can own.
>>730697653>are you too much of a zoomer to remember how cancerous physical drm was getting? disc always in, limited activationsnobody who advocates for PC physical was actually around for the straight up malware used as drm for physical PC games.
>>730697681You know what maybe thats why theres been a recent uptick of these EGS Spammers and anti-valve spam. Its in preparation for the next one and they need to have some positive attention.Kek the only recently news with Sweeney is him getting called a pedo for defending grok
>>730697721>paid modsyou deserve to be fleeced>30%wow operating a service isn't free who knew
>now they shills are trying to convince people that not owning your games is actually goodSteam shills has to be the most blatant shills on this site.
>>730697858You don't even know what a CDN is (steam is not)
>>730697721>>takes 30% from indiesMeanwhile Epic takes 24% (that goes up to 63% next year).
>>730686080>>730694981https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/onethBTFO
>>730697792If you EGS spammers died tomorrow nobody would care, hell people might even celebrate.
>>730684236nintendo is the only game company still trying with their consoles
>>730697898What do you consider important when it comes to "owning" your games?
>>730697898Wait until you meet nintentards
>>730697726>mad that a Nintendo game gets more discussion than Valve troon shitIt is so fucking satisfying reading about your constant feuding with Abib over him saying smash threads were board culture, and seeing this post many times per year every year for over 12 years.Please never get over it, Eric.
>>730697796but you have a license? the terms of it are just differentthey're both better and worse than what you get with consolesbetter because it'll last forever regardless of your hardware and can be thoroughly customized and worse because it can't be tradedif you don't refund games then you don't resell them either so why do you careand as >>730697816 said, you weren't actually alive when pc drm was starting to get bad, you live in this idealized echo chamber where you think pc games were just files on a disc you can copy no strings attached
>>730684236thirdies
>>730697907do you think akamai just gives valve free access to their service
>>730697914I don't give a shit about epic but since you can't read let me post again>takes 75% from mods>takes 99% from workshop itemsthat's far more than whatever you postedoh also bonus:>takes 15% from every steam market transaction (fee for trading literal virtual items lmao)
Valve is garbage because they have not released the steam controller 2 yet. PLEASE GABE I'M BEGGING YOU
>>730697987>nintendo poopdickschizo faggotry
>>730697898Youre being disingenuous and outright lyingMost people buy from steam and GoG. But you seethe specifically over the fact that people prefer steam , you hate you cant control peoples money or interests.
>>730697673>own a steam game>can't play it on EGS or GoGYou'll get over it.
>>730697898Who fucking cares if steam ever goes offline or shuts down licenses, just fucking pirate it like you poorfags have been doing
>>730697972Them having a valueBeing able to sell themBeing able to trade themNot being at the mercy that randomly I won't have access to themNot being forced to use a DRM platform that's full of bloat and collects/sells my dataNot being forced to create some dumb account to play a game
>>730698084Do you not comprehend the difference between a client and a console?
>>730698060Sure.
>>730698023You literally googled steam cdn but steam could take 5% and still be very profitable and i am not even making that upof course if they took 1% their shareholder leech (gaben and other 49%) would get less billions
>>730697987the mask slips off
>>730697991>but you have a license?No. Valve, EGS, and GoG hold the license. Otherwise I could sell my owership to another customer.
>>730698195the only stores that don't take 30% are in dire straitsegs would be bankrupt if it wasn't for timmy's project and gog is begging for donations and to join their discord kittens
>>730698084>jailbreak steam game>no longer requires EGS, GOG or steamOr just skip steam entirely, buy your game on gog, and now you have a permanent installer that works offline, forever.
>>730698196I was never hiding, my sweet victim.
>>730698094Sounds like a GOG game, then.>but you can't sell themWho cares? If it's a good game, it has value beyond shekels, you greedy merchant.
>>730698131Good question. I do know the difference. Again, great fucking question. Proud of you.
>>730698094>Them having a valueWhat value beside what you pay to buy them?Do you consider games as investments?>Being able to sell themDo you sell them? People who actively play games and care enough to buy physically don't sell their games (Even I still have all my physical games from when I played on console, I care about those)>Trade themCome on, be serious>Not being at the mercy that randomly I won't have access to themEh, that doesn't really work for modern games, and for digital games idk just pirate them if they're taken away from you>DRMThat, ok, you can have that. Even if idk if you really don't want DRMs and there's no way to legally get that, just pirate the games you want>Not being forced to create some dumb account to play a gameStill forced to create an account to get games or DLCs on the online stores. And forced to have an account AND a subscription to play online, is it really better?
>>730698282>buy your game on gog, and now you have a permanent installer that works offline, forever.the license is still stuck on gog
>>730698282Shelve the cutesy moeshit. I'm not replying to anything an obvious transgender poster says.
>>730698272valve is a meme company, everything they do is a meme that failsthey are only successful because steam prints money
>>730698235the license is yours and non transferable and its limitations come from common fucking sense of not letting people internationally and instantly trade games for cheaper than any developer can compete withpc physical would be much worse than any copes you make up about steam due to how free pc as a platform is
>>730698378>I don't have anything to reply to that but fuck youOk retard
>>730698358>why do you want to own stuff goy just rent it!Shoo shoo away jew!
>>730698371>>730698378>the license is still stuck on gogLet's see them take it away from me.
>>730698385but linux is currently making big gains due to their work, they've made handheld pc market a thing and they'll soon expand to the mobile wastelandwhat has sony or nintendo done for the greater gaming community in the past two decades?
>>730698371>licensewhat license? just click the installer and play. no need for any cd keys or anything
>>730698385>Everything they do is a meme that fails>Steam prints moneyIdk make up your mind
>>730684373There is nothing preventing someone else from developing a better service (for the customer) than Steam. All Valve's competitors seem to have actively avoided doing that.
>>730698385Nigger...FEX and Proton are fucking game changers for the industry
>>730698534steam is more like owning a land or houseyou don't really work with it, you do bare minimum like paying some devs to maintain it somewhat and rake in insane cashno idiot can fuck up being a land lordany anon if given an enormous amount of land or real estate would get richer over time
>>730698486>>730698529>zoomers don't know about used copies
>>730698648Tell that to microsoft.
Feels good to be a steamchad on the right side of history instead of EGS shill stuck holding the bag trying to defend timmy's ai pedo farm
>>730698358>here's the benefits>nu uh I don't like those!!!Too bad. They're objectively benefits.
>>730698703gayben just got lucky and managed to buy enough shares before valve got too big for him to afford
>>730698486They already did. Your copy isn't licensed.
>>730698464I didn't read your post at all so I wouldn't know.
>>730698648anyone can cope about how good the landscape of pc gaming is now, but valve hasn't just stumbled into successwhen they started out it was fucking abandoned and rife with piracy, especially during the ps3/360 era, so much so that many games of that era didn't even have pc versionsbut no, you myopic retards just look at the here and now
>>730698807They can't take away my pirated license.
>>730698904>muh pc gaming was dead actually>muh gayben actually saved it with his gay steam rentseeking>meanwhile real life>pc gaming was booming before steam, regardless steam>pc gaming dies the moment steam is popularized
>>730698398>the license is yours and non transferableThat doesn't make sense. How is it mine if it was never transfered to me? My copy isn't licensed, since selling and distributing it is illegal, because it is not licensed. >pc physical would be much worseThen PC is dead to me. PCs failure to find a proper workaround to piracy is another objective criticism of PC.
>>730695751How do you even view the breakdown? All I've seen is just the option for per-country game charts, not actively online.
>>730684373Kikes have a monopoly on your dumb shit education of reality.
>>730698963Nobody is ever taking away anyone's game. You're absolutely insane and clutching pearls.
>>730698996>pc gaming dies because steam is popular
>>730684236Valve strategically putting sales when people have the most free time is a tale as old as timeCNY would make the winter sale look like a weekend break
>>730697601Gamergate was spammed e-celeb faggot garbage. Shut the fuck up already.
>>730699010it's on your account and you have the fucking files you can easily back up and crack if you wanted to>My copy isn't licensed, since selling and distributing it is illegal,>and distributing itare you retarded? no game copy can be distributed regardless of where it came from unless it's outright shareware>PCs failure to find a proper workaround to piracy is another objective criticism of PC.it's called consoles you dumb nigger, giving up all your freedom and control of the hardware itself for perks only relevant to selective schizosyou can't balance being able to transfer your digital licenses and fighting piracy, it's one or the other
>>730684879Accidental Monopoly when you're doing just right but for some reason your competition not only constanly shoots themselves on the foot, but blame you for it for some odd reason
>>730698963Why would they? It has no actual value.
>>730684374There's a lot of interesting shit in Roblox, but the ceo is an open pedo supporter and having that leading a kids game disgusts me a little
>>730699142>popularizes gambling with tf2 way back in early 2010 and then popularizes it again with csgo, causing shit like overwatch lootboxes to appear>popularizes you will own nothing>popularizes indie asset flip garbage>popularizes devs not finishing games and releasing them broken>popularizes early access cancer>basically behind every bad thing that happened to pc gaming>despite all this dipshit anon claims pc gaming is alive because there are millions of ivans playing cs2
>If you make good things for people instead of raping them, that's a MONOPOLY >we must always ask ourselves how Israel benefits from our products.
>>730699360I'm sorry you find no value in games unless you can sell them for a few extra shekels at walmart.You must really hate freeware and fangames and romhacks.
>>730699283>it's on your accountSorry, I want to own media, not access to media.>no game copy can be distributedMy copy, I own, can be given to a friend. You're wrong and lying. >you can't balance being able to transfer your digital licenses and fighting piracy, it's one or the otherThen I'm sorry, you simply can't avoid my criticisms if that's true. How unfortunate for you, PC vegan.
>>730699590>My copy, I own, can be given to a friend. You're wrong and lying. But then you lose access to it. You don't own it anymore.
>>7306994502 cents have been deposited into your account
>over 50% of steam users are from China
>>730699590so how would you make it possible for digital games to be transferable without at the same time bankrupting literally everyone that makes them?
>>730699646I know.
>>730699685try again
>>730699738I can do the same with my digital copy, except I still have it.
>>730699708It's impossible. Digital media isn't ownable. And therefore digital media, and any front distributing digital media for sale is a scam. Pirate all digital media.
>>730694704Totemo was also wrong. There's no chisai tsu there. What a dumbass the other guy is
>>730699814I know. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
>>730693831You're overthinking it. There's a popular saying that>How do you know someone is vegan? They'll tell youSo it's just a way of saying that peeceefats go out of their way to tell others that they play PC
>>730699814but what if you don't want to have itwhat if you want to sell its actual monetary value
>>730699840and a physical pc game with its limited activations and aggressive drm wouldn't be ownable either since you're resorting to piracy to crack itconsoles are your only choice if you obsess over the metaphysics over actually playing games and they're going digital tooyour retarded worldview isn't going to survive the next decade but we know you'll cave to consoles doing it while stripping any recourse away from you due to them being consoles that are cucked into a toy interface
>>730699445>>popularizes devs not finishing games and releasing them brokenBut enough about AAA publishers....
>>730700032They wouldn't get away with releasing broken games pre steam
>>730700003DRM has nothing to do with whether or not a license is transferable or not.
>>730699982If you pirated the game, then you would already have saved the 60 bucks you would've spent normally. Why would you buy a game if you hate it so much that you want to get rid of it?
>>730700098That's not a Steam thing, that's a "devs can now update their games post launch and rely on that maybe a bit too much" thingGames had updated versions releasing before Steam was a thing, physically even (See like, Pokémon Blue in Japan, or just fighting games often having updated versions)That isn't new, at all, and happened before Steam and would have kept happening after
>>730700108being attached to a specific platform has nothing to do with it being transferable? are you retarded?now respond to the rest of the post
>>730700212You tell us. You buy games you hate so much you don't even want to own them, versus just pirating those same games and not wasting money.
>>730700267most pc games before 2007 did not have one use cd keys as a drm and therefore they were not attached to a platform
>>730700267The first paragraph is literally a lie. DRM has nothing to do with a licence being transferable ie ownable media in physical form. Why would I respond to anything you said after that?
>>730700347>before 2007so you have to live in the past before software distribution became a serious business to maintain even a shred of an argument?
>>730684373You had 11 BILLION to compete with steam and you wasted it.
>>730684236Actually bothering to be decent
>>730700387it absolutely fucking doesif a game doesn't have any drm that forces you to tie it down to a specific party then you can transfer itare you retarded?
>>730700389>revoking the customers right to own the media they purchase >serious businessNetflix, steam, prime video, kindle, itunes, GoG, etc, all your gay streaming apps aren't serious. I'm pirating them. Sorry, try and stop me.
>>730700319I buy games regardless of whether you think I can "own them" or not. Their reseller value on ebay means nothing to me.
>>730700558i'm not stopping you, be a friendless schizo all you wantjust telling you that you'll be completely stranded as even consoles are phasing out physical
>>730700460>and a physical pc game with its limited activations and aggressive drm wouldn't be ownable either since you're resorting to piracy to crack itThis is a lie and I'm not responding to your post because of that. I already told you why it is a lie. That's all.
>>730700596Your funeral.
>>730700596Good to know. I'm unphased by your opinion to do this. It's your choice.
>>730700637where's the lie nigger? how are you going to transfer a physical pc game that ran out of activations? it's physical so it must be transferable right? do you think needing to officially activate the game is not drm?
>>730700620I'm not worried.
>>730700685>PC games in physical form are just keysI'm so sorry you missed pre 2000s PC gaming. I really am.
>>730700735cool, get back to me once your gay activism amounts to more than just impotently pirating everything while gaben lets you pirate out of pity
>>730684236>What's their secret?Being good to consumers, giving them the tools they want, and providing good service? It's so hard for Epic and all the other competitors to understand that?
>>730700823i'm really sorry for you if you're so intellectually destitute that you think the pre internet business model is viable in 2026
>>730685298Workshop for retard proof mod integration and Steam Input for retard dev proof controller support is good enough reason to use steam tbhdesune
>>730696906>study funded by Tencent (EGS)Imagine
>>730700847No thanks. I think I'm done listening to your opinions.
>>730700894It isn't viable, and PC gaming as a media hobby has been long dead. Enjoy your apps and storefronts. I am going a different direction.
>>730684236Being the least shit. It is shit but everything else is so much worse that it wins by default.
>>730700998remember to thank gaben for keeping his drm removable in 10 seconds when you're pirating everything in 10 years! at least i hope that's what you're planning to do and won't just cuck to consoles where you truly control nothing when they're digital
>>730701047yes, exactlyyou're not living in the real world and you finally acknowledge that
>>730701103>I can't pirate media without assistance from corporationsI don't have that same problem. I'm sorry.
>>730701219i'll be honest, i don't think you'd be smart enough to pirate games if steam didn't make it so easy
>>730701169PC gaming will just never be good enough for me. It's just my opinion. Stop getting defensive, PC vegan.
>>730699445>trying to blame steam for lootbox shit>when steam isn't the first highly popular thing to use lootboxes braindead timdian
>>730684236Population continues to grow and economy is as strong as ever.As long as these two things are true (which they usually are) this will always be the case.
>>730701270Good to know.
make good productscam people less than the competition does
>>730701318>lucky strike cigarettes aren't bad cuz they didn't invent cigaretteswew son, you think with that brain?
>>730694725>>730694784>Promoting gambling through loot boxes.>Charging for mods, driven by Bethesda.>30% cutOf those three, two have improved over time. The loot boxes are a debatable point, but even so, Valve does much more for its consumers than other companiesPeople remain loyal to companies if you give them something good. If you give them something mediocre, or something that only benefits publishers and developers, obviously they won't want to stick with you, or at least not in the way you would like them to
>>730699445>>popularizes gambling with tf2 way back in early 2010 and then popularizes it again with csgo, causing shit like overwatch lootboxes to appearubisoft did it back in 2008 with FIFA first though? They even held a conference to other big names to show off how profitable it is and the guy who came up with the idea went on to become a CEO for the company.
