Due to the sheer advancements in emulation and modding support, most people choose to download ROMs and get stronger PCs than buying old consoles and discs. Eventually, physical media will die out.
>YOU MUST SPEND HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS ON 25 YEAR OLD GAMESNo.
>>730686676Was this PS2 found at the bottom of a pond?
same company that made ps2 is killing physical mediaall console companies are, to maximize profits they have to otherwise they will earn less than predicted on a sheet
>>730686676Physical media is objectively inferior in every way. Using the PS2 as an example, lets go through a few issues of physical vs digital>PS2 disc drive tends to fail>PS2 loads games slower on a disc drive than if you put a SSD in it and run the games off it>PS2 discs cease to function if they get scratched or rot due to environmental conditions >Having to physically swap which disc is in your console takes a bunch of extra time
Emulation is fine, but you're not actually playing the games. Its like playing chinese bootlegs, its all good as long as you're okay with the fact that you're basically playing a different game, the experience isn't the same.
>>730686676it's dying out because nobody is making it anymore, stop being a dumb sack of niggers.
>>730686676old physical media is a non-renewable resourcewith quality 3d printing, high quality label/manual printing, and low cost PCB manufacturing, making replacements can be done today at a cottage industry scale, but people have a problem with that for some reasonif it's not rotting plastic, it ain't the LeGiTiMaTe to manchildren
>>730686676Physical media is killing itselfSee: 3DS and Switch carts
>>730687192nice cope nostalgia faggot
>>730686676I've lost interest in physical media when I realized how much easier it is to have all my games on PC. Emulation's easy, I have installers for all my games, and I don't have to needlessly play old versions of the games on PS2/PS3.I used to kind of give a shit, but then I realized it's just a waste of space meant to look nice on a shelf. The PC's too versatile so it's hard to care much about physical copies. You don't even get nice manuals with them anymore and they still need to install on the console itself. So why should I care?
>>730686676im okay will scalpers dying horrible deaths
Nope, is just that that >Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo are too retarded to figure out a good business model to sell you old games>Second hand copies have become stupidly expensive>Even if you have the console and the games, it requires either a CRT setup or a retrotinkEmulation is a consequence of this, not the other way around
>>730686910No, worse.A "restoration" youtuber decided to spray the contents of his bowels on it to make it appear in worse shape than it was when he found it
>>730686676buying old games isn't supporting physical media, retard. you're just lining the pockets of ebay reseller. the physical media ship sailed a long time ago.
>>730686676I hope all Physical mediafags have their house burnt down so their collections are reduced to ashes.
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>>730688054I'm an extreme nihilist.More suffering = Better world.
>>730686676How about not giving old physical games with shitty insane prices?
>>730686676No physical media will die on its own due to physical decay.
>itt all the broke ass niggaz that cant afford a 20 year old console You could buy a second hand snes rn for 400 bucks with like 20 games, two controllers and a lightgun on ebay... xbox originals are like 20 bucks at value village, same with ps1. Ps2 is little expensive but fucking gamecube niggers are the most out to lunch when i comes to overpricing things
>>730686676Based, fuck hoarder and scalperfags. I'll gladly play my 14tb of emulated ROMs for decades to come.
>>730688126that seems like a very reductionist view of nihilism
I'm not paying 500 USD for a copy of Rule of Rose I don't care what you have to say or what is being killed I'm not doing it so shut the fuck up
>>730687080PS2 was also the worst when it came to not being able to read a disc because of a tiny ass imperfection on the disc or the disc reader. I have no idea why zoomers romanticize the past.
>>730688292I'm a nihilist. It doesn't matter what deeper meaning there is to it.
>>730687876My house flooded from Hurricane Ian three years ago. I saved my Switch but my PS4 didn’t make it. But I would have been beyond furious if I had rare physical games get washed away.
>>730686676Good
>>730686676>buying old consoles and discsok...and this matters why?I already have my old consoles and games. Why do I need yours too?
>>730688329>ZoomersPeople were saying this retarded shit back when the first emulators were coming out in the 90s.
>>730688329Zoomers desperately want the approval of millennials and so think blindly worshipping anything millennials liked or experienced will get them respect.
>>730687571The Retrotink 5x is incredible. Like its actually that good. It isnt "a scam" or "just as good as this $30 piece of dogshit trust me bro its all buzzwords". It's amazing.
>>730688548Zoomers hate millennials because most woke screenwriters ruining classic franchises are millennials.
>>730688680Literally 100% of the time when I've seen this claim made on 4chan the writer in question is always 50 or 60 years old (gen x)
>>730688329As the worlds biggest Xbox simp I can tell you Xbox had the worst drives. Even after the switch to Samsung.
>>730688863Forspoken really shattered the illusion of Hennig's writing prowess.
the hard drive I keep the games on is physical media and I can do whatever the fuck I want with it
>>730688948forspoken was bad on purpose so squeenix could get ESG money source: trust me bro
>>730688902Nah no way
>>730687192By this logic youre also not playing the game if you have a 3rd party controller
>>730688902How many replacement drives per year did you have to buy back when the Xbox was new? If the answer is 0 then it wasn't worse.
>>730686676I kept most of my old consoles, and games. Besides not wanting to lose the saves out of nostalgia, I have no reason to keep them, I never play themIf I want to play a game on them, I can't be bothered to buy a controller to replace the shit ancient one, get a VGA to HDMI adaptor etc, just for it to look shittier and worse than If I just rammed it into an emulator with 3x upscale
>>730686676>download MP3>somewhere in the world a music CD shrivels up and rotsHeh
>>730686676I mean even when emulation wasnt a thing I burned games onto CDsIm also not paying a fuck ton for a copy of vice city stories when its free online
>>730686676I figured this out like 20 years ago. One central gaming device with all my games, instead of many. All my games as digital files on my drive, instead of hundreds of shitty discs and cases. And the only way to do that reliably is the PC. Same shit with books. Having a physical library is a massive pain in the fucking ass. Pirating books and reading them on an e-reader is obviously a better experience.Just don't be a retard and try to go digital on a modern console like a PS4. >>730689223Yes we all did that shit back then. I cracked my exe's so I wouldn't have to insert the disc again.
>>730686676>physical media will die out>because people are emulating>not because the companies no longer produce said physical mediakys retard
>>730687770what the fuck are you being serious?
In le current year there really is no reason not to emulate, you get an objectively better experience and its free. I don't understand the appeal to fancy upscaling devices that cost hundreds of dollars just to have a worse experience than what hooking up any laptop or pc to your tv will give you. i remember playing gamecube games on my school laptop like 11 years ago literally anyone can emulate any console they want
>>730686676How awful. I'll try to spare a thought for all of those poor speculative market fags who aggressively priced everyone else out of collecting retro games.
>>730689376At the end of the day it's just pussies who are afraid to pirate. They need everything to be "official" or it's invalid. Probably why they care so much about achievements as well. And why they care so much about have an iPhone instead of literally anything else.
>The Xbox will balance it's self.-Trustin Judeau
>>730686676What's stopping sony and nintendo from making the ps1/ps2/psp/gba/ds/3ds again and re-releasing games for them? Now's the perfect time. The music industry had no problem going back to vinyl.
if you're not playing the game on original hardware...you didn't beat the gamesimple as
>>730686676I can't even perceive emulator input lag. Feels good to not shell out hundreds for plastic, just to experience long load times and hardware failure.
being able to use the superior xbox controller with PS games is kino
>>730689467Yes, that schizoid idea encompasses the entirety of vintage games.
Yeah I emulated Gotcha Force and it was a lot of fun, fuck those niggers on ebay.
>>730689795because they can release them on their proprietary subscription service and make you pay for them forever
>>730686676Tell the retro stores to stop selling PS2 games at 80 dollars.
so why not just backup roms on solid state drives? Pretty sure you can pack the entire PS2, Xbox, Xbox 360 and PS3 library in a 3TB SSDYou own your games then
>>730686676>Eventually, physical media will die out.Physical media is going to die regardless of what people do to try and keep it alive. Chips are going to fail, eventually all cartridges are going to lose their game data so you're gonna have to rely on a 1:1 rom dump or brand new boards to keep it alive introducing a Ship of Theseus problem (Something we're already seeing with Game Boy and 3DS), discs are going to rot or delaminate, screens are going to permanently die with no 1:1 replacement because no one makes them anymore, etc.As it is we're already having to rely on random Chinese factories making specialist replacement parts and westerners going to great lengths to copy things like the N64 Expansion Pack or the Chromatic. We still do not have Vita 1000 OLED replacement screens.Physical media in general always came with a due date, it's just 50-80 years from when you bought it. People who succeed us will not be able to play with things we grew up with. Hell, people in our lifetime likely won't be able to play a majority of games from gen 6 back without emulation. Emulation and piracy is the only way any of the gaming industry survives in the long run just due to entropy. The physical boxes and original disks/cartridges will be more of a collector's item to keep on a shelf than something usable assuming it's not ewaste.
>>730689376The only valid reason and that's only because you can make money out of it is speedrunning, and not really, many games and comunities are acepting emulation now
>>730690757Vidya preservation not being taken as seriously as other media preservation efforts like in music and film always bothered me. You can still easily find and enjoy movies and music from over one hundred years ago. Meanwhile even PS3/360/Wii games are getting harder to find.
>>730686676The consoles themselves aren't really losing popularity but buying the games are since you can just use flashcarts or modded consoles loaded with roms. Software PC emulation isn't really the best though. It's the midwit's option for playing retro.
>>730690376PS3 alone would take 9TB
>>730690376>>730691221you could just barely fit every PS2 game on a 3TB drive though. excluding games that weren't released in the US.
>>730691101most games are preserved. vast majority of it just isn't available through legal avenues.
>>730686676I dunno. One of my coworkers makes a decent side-gig repairing controllers and cartridges. Dude even makes customs of both for any who want it. I appreciate some people are keeping the physical side of things going.
>>730687192You can never cross the same river twice. Close enough is good enough.
the inetrnet in this old stuff will die off with millenials Gen A won't want to play Super Mario bros 3
