But they told me sonic was bad.... hell someone even mentioned the idea that sonic was NEVER good...
>>730691975Are we still pretending Frontiers was good?
>>730691975Frontiers has soul but lets not pretend that its a good game
>>730692112A game with soul can't be bad
>>730691975>>730692112When it works it tricks you into thinking that the game is good... when it doesnt it throws you right into 06 bullshit.
>>730692163Why cant it? The passion is clear, it was just mired by the developers overall lack of skill
>>730692163Yes it can you dumb fuck, that’s like saying just because a house looks nice doesn’t mean it can’t burn down
>>730691975The combat and dbz style finishers were so fucking mind numbing I can't commit to the game.
I put on Frontiers the other day and it’s awful. Ironically, the best thing about it is the combat. All the platforming and weird momentum shifts in the boost stages and the open world padding. The whole thing plays like a Pso2ngs tech demo, which it probably was.
Classic Heroes thread. This old video still holds up pretty well https://youtu.be/81nhkIPdzk4
>>730692654A more accurate analogy would be a good looking house that's been devoured by termites and would collapse with a strong wind.
Bad faith thread detected.
>>730691975frontiers feels like they kept throwing shit at the wall and hoped something would stick. it's a mess of ideas that aren't really coherent.
>make boost Sonic feel like a "tank" or a car if you want>make him floater in FrontiersWhy cant they go back to Sonic in Adventures? Why cant Sonic feel like that anymore but more polished? Even indies can make their characters feel good in 3d but ST have been on this shit for almost 20 fucking years with boost Sonic.God, even spindash was a dlc that had to be unlocked.Hell, you know what? Even Sonic Speed Sim does better justice to Sonic in 3d. At least i can dropdash into slopes and jump around and have some freedom while exploring or jumping around from place despite the ridiculous floating, but the characters dont feel heavy. And they can jump, unlike boost Sonic that his jumping his a fucking joke.And Sonic Speed Sim IS A FUCKING ROBLOX SHIT. Get your shit together Sonic Team, jesus
Opinions on the DLC?
I've been collecting all memory tokens while watching youtube videos.Maximum comfy
>>730691975Going back to Generations feels like shit after playing this
>>730695569>chaos islandsounds like hell
>>730695483I'll let you know when I beat this goddamn Ikaruga-ripoff final boss.THIS IS A SONIC GAME, WHY AM I DOING THIS?!
>>730695695they blew all the budget on the titan fights
>>730695483You mean Final Horizon? I like it conceptually, but I don't understand they put so much input delay on some actionsGliding with Knuckles feels fucking awful since he just awkwardly floats in the air for like a full second before he starts actually movingStill, I liked to see them messing around with somethings like how Tails doesn't have a homing attack, which is actually faithful to SA1, but we're all just so used to it at this point that it feels weird playing a 3D game without one
I didn't get to play the Final Horizon while it was fucking impossible, sadface.Wish someone made a mod that undoes the patch so people could see how difficult it used to be...
>>730696268qrd on the OG version?
>>730696334The controls were shittierThe only thing that might have been worth bringing back is that the parry timer was stricter (which mattered a lot in the Master King trial), but frankly idgaf, parries do not belong anywhere near sonic games and they should never have put a timer on it to begin with
>>730691975We all said it is ludokino when you pick the right mode, but I forgot which one it was.
>>730696334iirc there was a boss rush mode you had to beat in order to get the alternate ending. The first titan fight was alright, but the second fight with Wyvern is where most of the bullshit comes from. Most of the fight is just you chasing it down as your rings keep dwindling. Mind you, you only have 400 rings to beat all three bosses and there is NO way of getting more. Adding to that, the Wyvern has this claw swipe attack that feels so fucking awkward to parry, you have to preemptively hit the parry button before it's even anywhere close to hitting you. If you get hit once, you fly around the map again doing nothing but wasting time and rings. By the time you get to the Knight, if you even get to it, you're likely going to run out of rings and have to do the boss rush all over again. There were other major problems that the final DLC had, but most of the complaints I heard came from this and the true final boss being poorly designed.
I'M HERE TO GO BEYOND MY LIMIT NOT TO COMPROMISEAND YOU CAN TELL I REALLY MEAN IT LOOKING IN MY EYES
>>730697462Now that the dust has settled what titan had the best song?
>>730697462Certified "turn that shit up" track
>>730695483probably the worst dlc to a game i've playedthe lack of budget shows
>>730691975frontiers is jank as fuck but I still enjoyed itseems like it would be really easy to make a sequel 100 times better
Just finished the true ikaruga boss fight, gave the DLC and I'm not feeling it...
>>730691975My favorite thing about Sonic is going fastMy least favorite thing about sonic is how literally every single game makes you go slow after the first levelI just play indie shit that lets you zoom instead. Better games, better experiences, better speed.
>>730698106oh yeah? well post some of that indie shit then
>>730695483I never beat it
>>730695483It turned a 6/10 into a 5/10
>>730695695Wait until you realise the DLC final boss is even worse
>>730697207The boss rush being so annoying soured me on them entirely. Once you strip away the spectacle and focus on the boss mechanics you realise that the combat is actually pretty fucking shit. Wyvern being an autoscroller until the designated parry attack was especially tedious
>>730698194Dustforce is an old favorite. There's lots of gozoom indie titles. You used to be able to search for "inspired by sonic" and find dozens of them. Not sure how search engines worth in the age of enshittification.
>>730692112>Frontiers has soul>It's literally a generic open world with sonic levels inexplicably hovering above it
>>730700585Attempting to make Sonic dramatic again makes it classify as soul
>>730697207>Mind you, you only have 400 rings to beat all three bosses and there is NO way of getting moreTECHNICALLY I think if you're below 100 rings when you move onto Knight, you get 100.
>>730691975Frontiers at launch was mediocre as fuck borderline trashFrontiers now is pretty decent
