Nasuverse Power Levels are bullshit.
>>730695259What was your first clue? Irish Hercules' undodgable blow getting dodged, a Japanese high-schooler eviscerating the Ultimate One of Earth, Hercules losing almost half his lives to some literally who in melee, a magus with several centuries worth of knowledge failing to fuck up the random Japanese high-schooler, some other Japanese High-schooler winning against the supposedly strongest servant to the eternal cope of his dick riders, one of the ultimate ones dying from a gun in a distant future, three of the weakest jobber ass servants winning against almost a dozen superior servants, or the other strongest servant getting thrashed by a Japanese high-school teacher
>>730695259saber is shit when she's with shirou and that japanese teacher had augmented powers thanks to medea
>>730695259Nasu's version of power scaling is everyone jobs to everyone. He talks up how the character is the strongest or how they have an unstoppable technique, he gives them a single niche but glaring flaw, and then he only ever has them fight in conditions where that flaw manifests. Every single character, every single fight, every single time. He decides who beat who for whatever fickle reason he wants.>saber has a weak master and no avalon>gil, the king of jobbers, never takes anything seriously>lancer's causality reversing attack is just a luck check with rank E luck, also an asshole master>snakeman has a fighting style that only works once and is best against natural instinct, which saber has rank A in>kirei was one of the strongest human combatants of modern times, but is far past his prime and has a failing heart>shirou has a crazy RM that he doesn't understand for 95% of the VN and isn't able to use it properly with his own mana>motherfucking heracles the greatest hero ever, known for genius problem solving and incredible feats with bow and sword, lmao no he's only ever allowed to appear as his weakest class
>>730695259Power levels are meaningless in the face of plot. The moment you realize this and get over it the sooner it stops bothering you.
>>730697030stan lee answered this years ago before he diedeveryone loses to plotpowerscaling is an exercise in futility
>>730695259shut up gil you got beat by a high school ginger
>>730695259>durr X servant stronger therefore he should always winbrainlet
>>730695259>Nasuverse Power Levels are bullshit.It's on purpose to drive discussion among it's low IQ fans
>>730695259Only took you 22 years to find out
>>730696803you forgot nasu's "MUH HUMAN!", "GHOSTS SHOULDN'T DICTATE HOW HUMANITY GO FORWARD"
>>730698584what the fuck even is this his ideal future is one where humans can inscribe heroic spirits saint graphs (it's code and fuck nasu so goddamn much for this) into themselves
Just like real life.
>>730699342this kills the powerscaling fags
>>730698742do you even read nasu's work?
>>730699387read my post, motherfucker
>>730695259Does anybody actually care? They could write a random jobber servant winning against archduke dead apostle fused with a beast world digital servant because of a "special exception" and "normally this wouldn't be possible but-" case scenario.
I thought it was bs how the Holy Grail wars were set up with "I win" heroic spirits.
>>730701460That's one of the best parts. The mages are power level fags>I have summoned the universal tier GodFuckDevilMan. THIS WAR IS OURS!Meanwhile some dipshit summoned>Juicy Lucy the InstathotAnd beats them because of some reason or another.
>>730701638like anri manyu>guy that has all the sins of the world>it's weak as fuck>dies immediately
>>730702223The Einzbern family trying to summon Satan into the Grail War despite the fact they were one of the creators of the system and knew it doesn't allow you to do that was the dumbest thing. That said, it's also completely believable given how stupid mages are shown to be in that setting.
>>730695259You have to realize, Type-Moon's rules are not wrought of steel, they're made of bendy plastic. The rules often warp, and can bend pretty far before they break, and they can almost always be broken, too.There are five inviolate rules and those are Magic. Anything else? Guidelines and expectations.
you aren't wrong but you aren't right either
>>730705696Things like Time Travel, Parallel World Travel or Soul Transfer? Those are pastime hobbies now.
>>730701638>GodFuckDevilMan vs Juicy Lucy the Instathot
>>730707415Honestly the best case scenario instead of some shmuck abusing them
>>730705696What this really means in reality that anybody who has to follow the rules on the surface is just a jobber.Nasu/Fate writing just means you have to adjust your expectations in a meta way where you don't measure powerlevels by them saying their energy blast can nuke 10000 cities or how fast they can react, or how lucky they are, but rather how much they can break rules they spent 10 hours saying are ironclad right before the fight. Anybody worth a shit can break at least two, maybe three rules minimum to be considered legit. Anything else is just a meme they use to pad out screentime and star in doujins.
>>730710234Even OG FSN immediately "breaks" the HGW with Caster's shenanigans because of course she can find loopholes and manipulate the grail war to her advantage.
>>730695259fate's been BS ever since nasu added the hardcoded rule of "NOTHING BEYOND TESLA IS ALLOWED TO BE A SERVANT"despite the fact that myth and legends still continued all the way onto stuff like the two world wars and the cold warreminder that world war 1 is now more than 100 years old now
>>730710234>ekubokek
>>730711316>we will never get servant Hitler
Neco-Arc Chaos is better than your favorite Servant. Simple as.