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This game is pretty cool.
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What if King's Field were boring & soulless: the game.
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I've been tempted to get it a few times now... but idk. Is it a 3d metroidvania? Or a fantasy boomer shooter?
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>>730696153
The weakest of the king's field likes but as a genre they are all pretty good. King's Field is pure gaming.
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>>730696238
zoomer kings field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb05aJsLGIE
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Shame it was made by a clown.
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>>730696573
How does that have any effect on the game?
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>>730696153
The boss fights were the worst part of the game. Also the stat cap, which the game doesn't tell you.
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shilling this game since it's pretty much the same game, down to the flaws for some reason (very clunky inventory ui and needing to carry a torch the whole game)
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>>730698121
sorry you can't have that new game, it was made by terrorists
WHAT EFFECT DOES THAT HAVE ON THE GAME?!
in all seriousness if the game is good it's good but I understand why people always bring real life into the picture because on some level it does matter
people don't want to give money to someone who will likely use it on things they don't like/agree with and that's their choice
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>>730698121
The gender options exceed 2 and there's a lot of pink and purple. Those seem like the only two effects it has had.
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>>730698239
>Also the stat cap, which the game doesn't tell you.
not like your stats matter beyond getting enough agility to outrun everything
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>>730698352
It was the dumbest shit.
>dev: "I added a quick and shitty pronoun dropdown that you can edit through a TXT file, because I wanna troll the chuds."
>/v/: HOW DARE YOU, WASTING SO MUCH TIME FOR VIRTUE SIGNALLING, YOU HAVE JUST LOST A PAYING CUSTOMER I WILL NOW PIRATE YOUR GAME
It was all so fucking stupid.
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>>730698331
>sorry you can't have that new game, it was made by terrorists
The lead singer of this band literally raped babies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hJUGi-ODIU

Song still slaps. Separate art from artists.
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>>730698324
I haven't played either, but from what I understand, a major element of Lunacid is the ability to freely allocate stats which scale to crazy levels, letting you build your character basically like in Morrowind and become an invincible high speed killing machine that flies around at high speed and shits fireballs.
Is Verho more traditional?
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That cry post they made where they said they're just a cat was pretty good tho t b h
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>>730696153
it's not
the fact that you can upgrade your movement speed is heresy to the genre
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>>730699004
while the level and stat system work the same, no, they don't scale as hard and feel more balanced (no movement stats either)
don't main dex though since there aren't that many viable options
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>>730699219
Cool, thank you.
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>>730698352
>and there's a lot of pink and purple
>chuds getting triggered by colors now
It's getting more pathetic by the minute.
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>>730698324
I love King's Field likes and wish there were more of them. Thanks for the rec, I'll give it a try.
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>>730696153
the final boss is complete bullshit
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>>730696153
remember when the dev put more pronouns in the game after backlash as a joke and all the indians and slavniggers on twitter and 4chan shit and pissed themselves
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>>730698913
nah. LP was always nonce-coded garbage. only child-lusting faggot subhumans ever listened to them. the fact that you still choose to listen to them after the baby rape is just as much of a black mark as the fact that you ever listened to them at all.
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>>730699362
Lmao this makes daggerfall gameplay look crazy good
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I like how we're getting indie King's Fields, but when is the wave of indie Armor Core-likes going to hit?
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>>730696153

I like to imagine that Dread Delusion takes place in Lunacid's surface world.
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>>730699476
>XY-coded
Go back to twitter.
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>>730699517
Its so good.
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>>730699529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVkI_WXGWCM

Ludo of the highest order. You can thank me later.
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>>730696232
fpbp
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>>730699517
Imagine if daggerfall actually had hand crafted dungeons dripping with atmosphere instead of procedurally generated nonsensical mazes. That's King's Field. If you like daggerfall I say give the series a try.
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>>730699529
How do I get this good at Armored Core? Whenever I play the old Armored Core games I burn out my boosts and the enemies always jump over my head and I can never spin fast enough to track them.
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>>730698324
>needing to carry a torch the whole game
What? There are barely any dark areas in Verho and you get a light spell you can use instead of a torch right at the start of the game.
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>>730696232
King's Field is already boring and soulless. Stop watching youtube essays and actually try the game.
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good game that becomes boring after deciding to be a boomer shooter half way through
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Blew its load way too early in my faggot anon opinion.
Also the endings were insultingly bad.
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>>730699462
>more pronouns
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>>730700048
King's Field may be boring, by design its slow and methodical and if you're looking for twitchy action I can understand why you'd find it boring, but its not soulless.
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>>730700048
Cant find my copies of the old games that I've owned since they were new as proof, but I can assure you I have played them. Eternal Ring, Shadow Tower, and even Echo Night as well.
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I think Lunacid and Dread Delusion were the last games I really enjoyed, haven't played much of anything since then. Watched The Substance one night and the grossness made me pass out in the kitchen and cracked my head on the tiles. Not completely certain, but I think I started to rapidly lose my interest in video games after that. Definitely recommend Lunacid and Dread Delusion though, super comfy games
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>>730700048
I played all of them including Shadow Tower and Abyss, now take your (You) and fuck off.
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>>730698324
a comparison to Lunacid just in case anyone's interested in this one:

Verho
Positives:
>Longer with more maps
>Better level design. You rarely get lost
>Waypoints are EXACTLY where you want them to be
>Better build options - better weapons, two slots of mainhand+offhand, multiple rune slots, ring system
>Stats feel more balanced
Negatives:
>Awful inventory ui
>Forced to carry around Eye of Secrets if you want to unlock all secrets, as there are hidden torches that are only visible while carrying the Eye around (no two-handed weapons allowed in this case)
>Enemies do not have de-aggro range for some reason
>HEAVY enemy powercreep and much more difficult, almost to a frustrating and unfun level (FUCK flying mobs and FUCK those beyblade motherfuckers)
>Slightly worse combat - forced to use charged attack as non-charged attacks deal no damage, also need to time your charged attacks for a crit

Lunacid
Positives:
>Better music
>Slightly better combat
Negatives:
>Awful inventory ui
>Forced to carry around a torch until you get an actual light source
>Worse level design, half the gameplay time is just getting lost and looping around


As for the most important thing about these two games - the atmosphere, I'd describe Lunacid as a surreal and nightmarish vibe while Verho is more eldritch and otherworldly.
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>>730700291

Try Supraland & its sequels. Trust a nigga
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What do we call this genre of decidedly slower pace atmospheric first person dungeon crawlers? Does Metroid Prime count as one?
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>>730698324
not a trooncore so no one cares
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>>730700335
>Lunacid
>Slightly better combat
Literally just put a couple points into speed and you negate the entire combat system.
Verho's map design also isn't very good because the game is almost entirely linear, you can do the first two locations out of order and there's a branch path in the last third of the game and that's it. The curse of masks was a really cool concept though.
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Isn't this the game where the faggot got hacked and ended up having the steam version get pozzed as a result? Buyfags lose again lmao.
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>>730700282
>Eternal Ring, Shadow Tower, and even Echo Night
Those are all significantly better than the first King's Field.
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>>730696153
Played it when it came out, it lacks consistent atmosphere. It took me out of the game a lot.
>Start off alone and abandoned
>Nearly immediately find an anime waifu who sents you to a hub full of other waifus
>Enter a grand library
>Music is generic "Cool Lo-Fi Hip Hop beats to relax and study to"
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>>730699529
Project Six
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>>730700668
The music track and artist popping up for every song is a fucking bizarre choice for this kind of game.
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>>730700430
trusted
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For me, it's Dead Wells. It's bad in an entertaining way.
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>>730700948
No, it's just bad.
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>>730700948
No, it's just good.
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>>730700729
Hey.... that looks good, I'm more of an AC1-3 fan and this looks decidedly AC4 but man, that's cool. Those cockpit shots touch me in my special place. Wishlisted. Thanks Anon.
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>>730696153
shilling your garbo game again?
dogshit gameplay, dogshit levels, dogshit music, dogshit items, dogshit spells
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>>730699345
>chuds
faggot
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>>730701046
This anon is STILL mad about the pronouns.
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>>730700668
>troon ruins their game with out of place tranime and speedrunning
why do they do this
they have the talent but they can't help themselves
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>>730698121
Your character is always honking his red rubber ball nose.
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>>730696359
Whats a good one? I enjoyed labyrinth of the demon king quite a lot recently.
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Man, why are all kingsfield likes for pc? I want a comfy console one.
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>>730701298
A lot of these games are just babies first unity/unreal/gadot project, getting it on steam is one thing, but getting it approved for PS5/Switch(2)/Xbox is an entirely different beast. Maybe if one of these gets Vampire Survivor levels of huge you'll see it on consoles.

Also First Person and Kb/M is a natural combo.
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>>730701298
First person games just feel more natural on mouse and keyboard.
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I have a pc, I just prefer console because the couch is comfier than my chair. It would be cool if fromsoft put out a new actual kingsfield or shadow tower.
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>>730696153
are there any KF clones that are 3rd person? I like the concept but I wanna look at my dude, I can't stand 1st person games, never play them
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>Lunacid is King's Field but worse.
>El Paso Elsewhere is Max Payne but worse.
>Dusk is Blood but worse
>Gloomwood is Thief but worse
>Dread Delusion is Morrowind but worse.
What's it with this indie trend of taking a 20 yo game and making an inferior version of it? Graphics, gameplay, music, writing. Everything is worse.
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>>730701601
Honestly I have zero faith in a fromsoft produced one after AC6.
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>>730701685
they're made by less people (often only one) so I'm not sure what you expect
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>>730701658
Have you tried this lesser known indie game called 'Demon's Souls'?
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>>730696153
>as per usual, tranny perceives a form of media as an allegory of the trans experience
Pass.
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>>730701752
Im gping to choose to remain optimistic. The genre has exploded in popularity lately.
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>>730701685
Because I want more of [old game] and the developer isn't interested in providing that to me so I have to look elsewhere.
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Troon game

>>730696232
Troon game that badly mimics KF.
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>>730701754
>I'm not sure what you expect
Originality. They could do anything they wanted but "bootleg version of a classic" is the limit of their creativity.
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>>730701967
make your own original game then
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>>730701967
>bootleg
>when it's easy to tell they're clearly inspired but still are clearly different
midwit faggots like you don't deserve to hold opinions
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>>730701789
not a clone though is it
just has some similar game concepts
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>>730699532
dread delusions is like if lunacid was a different kind of mediocre with good psx-era inspired art direction

this is a growing indie genre. mohrta probably plays the best because it pretends to be an fps instead of pretending to be an rpg but is still true to the genre in that its firmly mediocre
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>>730699517
kings field combat is better than elder scrolls because, while rudimentary, the enemies at least have attack patterns other than run up and hit you.
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>>730701298
There's a kf4 roguelike
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>>730701685
>Gloomwood is Thief but worse
have you played thief or was that what it was really trying to be?
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>>730701685
>Dusk is Blood but better
ftfy
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>>730699872
build around middle weight with good energy recovery. b-hop or tap jump and letgo when you boosters come out to move around faster
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>>730699517
You gotta include the music, that's where King's Field becomes kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcIKBMezwCU
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friendslop kings field like would do NUMBERS
Barony is kinda this but also not really
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>>730702010
The dumbest argument ever conceived against criticism.
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>>730702837
sure if we were talking about AAA games but these are indies
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>>730699462
HAHAHAHA SO FUNNY
>Doesn't buy the game
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>>730700249
That is indeed soul.
>>730700291
It's the same for me. Although you've just reminded me that I actually never finished dread delusion. I still haven't been to the clockwork area yet. I should really go back to it
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>>730702726
Fly Knight kinda
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>>730702928
actually yeah that's a decent one but it's a little undercooked overall
it's been wildly successful so only proves my point
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>IT WAS ALL A DREAM
>three times
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>>730698324
I played it on the next fest, the vertical slice not the "proper" game, it seemed alright, I liked the exploration but the combat was janky as fuck
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>>730702273
Mohrta was awesome. I appreciated all the big titty monster girls in it.
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>>730702412
Whats it called?
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>>730701685
>Gloomwood is Thief but worse
fuck that's disappointing
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>>730703431
it's not, anon is talking out of his ass
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>>730702267
I consider it to be, when I played it all the way back in 2009 my first thoughts were 'this is King's Field but 3rd person'.
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>>730703279
KFIV-RL
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>>730701685
>Dusk is blood but worse
False. It is actually more like Quake 2 but worse.
>Gloomwood is Thief but worse
False, it is thief but better and continues to get better.
>Dread Delusion is Morrowind but worse
I really don't get why people say it is like Morrowind. They couldn't be any more different. That being said I do agree that Dread Delusion is worse than Morrowind.
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>>730700048
True, anons seething
>NOOOO DUDE I TOTALLY PLAYED IT LET ME GET MY RECEIPTS TO PROVE IT. IRS NOT BORING IF I KEEP SAYING ITS NOT
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>>730703497
You got a link? I can't find shit trying to google it.
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How interested would you guys be in a King's Field I~IV collection on steam?
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>>730696153
troon game
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>>730703935
the actual KF series is way too dated to warrant any remake
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>>730698913
rooftops is better
also most celebs/public figures do sick shit
for a lot of them it's how they get and stay there
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>>730703935
I mean people would say they would be than conviently never actually play it because of some cop out minor reason like one rooms lighting got screwed up a tiny bit muh atmosphere or dmr or whatever so they can still say they are massive fans of these boring ass games without actually needing to slog though them like anyone cares about what toys you enjoy in your free time.
Really gay like most remake discussions
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>>730703712
>I really don't get why people say it is like Morrowind.
Mushroom trees.
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>>730702273
Mohrta's demo played like absolute fucking shit, it wasn't excusable just for being indie or low budget because everything about it was garbage.
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>>730703712
>I really don't get why people say it is like Morrowind. They couldn't be any more different.
Same journos who said Avowed is like Dark Messiah
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>>730703935
Very but given all the time Fromsoft has had to port a single Armored Core game, I don't think it's likely to ever happen.
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>>730703935
not interested in a remake but I would def buy them if they were on steam for convenience
I've reached that age where even emulating ps1 titles feels like too much of a hassle
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since we're talking about kf-likes, this one actually looks very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYnBVbaGWK4
>>730701298
because porting on console for indie devs is a pain in the ass
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>>730701298
>>730704948
Yeah, this, unless you've sold a million copies on steam no console gives a shit about you.
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>>730703935
I'd buy it and probably play like one and a half of them
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>>730696153
>>730696232
Lunacid is just a Source engine game cosplaying as a King's Field game.
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>>730705159
Literally all I want.
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>>730700048
holy TRVKE



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