I don't understand what compels a person to join a server in a shooting game and effectively use it to play with dolls in a dollhouse
>>730696848>another pvp tard crying that there are no care bears for him to shoot in his pvp lobbieslol
>>730696848Im glad I dont like this game, most insufferable fanbase
>>730697010Same thing happened in the souls games/elden ring. You can basically turn off pvp now all together if you don't want it and this made all the pvp tards cry because they can't invade people who have no interest.
>>730696848>our system has detected that you like PvP a lot>we will now put you in lobbies with people like you, so you have more fun!NOOOOOOOOOO GOD PLEASE NOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>730696848There are two types of people; leaders, and subhuman sheeple who cannot comprehend going off the beaten path.
>we have helldivers 2 at home
>>730697167it's almost like they don't have enough skill to hold their own against real competition.
>>730697167Its like how people in FPS games like to only farm kills in objective games rather than modes where people shoot back
>>730697167you could turn off pvp in every souls game
>>730696848because the other fomos like dune:awakening and enshrouded are dead
>>730697167we are never getting those first few weeks back where you didnt know if another raider was friendly or not. Oh well, i got like 100 hours out of it
I'll tell you what compels people to join a server, you fucking dumb sack of shit. It's the fact that they HAVE TO join a server. There is no offline mode. You are whining about something that the developers forced players to do. If there was an offline mode, or PvE-only servers, they would be joining that. The only thing "compelling" these people who live rent free in your mind is the simple truth that they have zero choice in the matter if they want to play this game at all. Try not being a stupid little shit next time you make a thread.
>Spend a bunch of expensive supplies killing an arc>Someone else loots it first>Can't hurt them without being put into the bad boy queue for the next ten matchesnice game
>>730698275but the game is mega bland without PVP; even the developers admitted it
>>730699110Did not ask.
>>730699110The brainless PvEtards don't even realize this. They think fighting the matriarch 100 times the exact same way is riveting, stimulating gameplay.
>>730698978>>730699110I dont see what the problem isif you want to PvP why would you be upset about being put with other PvPers?
>>730696848So you don't understand GTA then? Maybe video games aren't for you.
The Bungulator
>>730696848People want to LARP as the hero, but they don't realize that a villain is needed to do so.
>>730699343Sitting by extract for 20 minutes ambushing players is definitely riveting, stimulating gameplay huh
>>730696848Pussification of modern gamersAll these comfy and cozy games did irreparable damage to gaming
>>730701479this but unironically. L4D2 VS would make these people crash a car into a building
He is not wrong. You know it>>730701535> this but unironically.I was not ironic.
>>730701479>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ENJOY THE GAME THE WAY YOU WANT. YOU NEED TO BE FORCED TO PLAY WITH FAGGOTS SUCH AS MYSELF WHO PLAY THE GAME LIKE FORTNITE
>>730701469We've been doing in tarkov this shit FOR years and everything is fine. Stop being a such a bitch and git gut>>730701591Arc is PvPvE game. If you don't want PvP you don't play ARC. That's simple. You can't demand to reshape the game for your liking. You either accept the rules and play, or you don't, and you play something else.
>>730697010>here's one organic pvpve game>expect we're gonna use matchmaking aids to separate pvp enthusiasts from friendlies >yeah let's eliminate the gimmick making our game unique because of manchildren crying on social medias!If you don't see the problem you are certified brown, or a woman brained non individual.Same thing happened with all online games, and the mym update in tf2 killing servers, and we always have the same dispute and your side is always normietrash shit for brain tier
>>730701651Tarkov is a shit game for dumb goyim. Stick to your trash or deal with playing with other people with your mindset. We all know the reason you're crying is that you can't get as many easy kills any more.
>>730697167>You can basically turn off pvp now all together if you don't want itso if i want to play passively but still want to play in PvP lobbies, how do I do that?
>>730701749> Tarkov is a shit gameCasual pig is seething, noice
>>730701559I don't see why this is a problem. All these zoomers bullying gamerdads will eventually all be put in the same server with other tryhards where the game turns into tarkov for them.
>>730701651the brown and dog haircut having mass is sadly dictating what a game must be, that's why sbm exists, ranks, why servers are dead and why everything feels like shit
>>730701861>Literal p2w kikeslopKeep sucking Nikita's Jewish cock, Ivan
>>730701926> I don't see why this is a problem. SBMM in any shape or form is BAD for the game.Agressin based match making is just another form of SBMM and this shit WILL kill the gameTarkov has no SBMM at all and Tarkov is doing fine because this created unpredictability of each raid, while in arc game will become stale for both aggressive and not aggressive players>>730701978Tarkov is not a P2W. You can't buy armor, guns or ammo for real money
>>730701738Damn that's a lot of words just to say you don't have an argument
>>730702093>Tarkov is not a P2WI hope Nikita is paying you well for spreading obvious lies
>>@730702162I don't engage with subhumans thinking themselves clever by pretending not to notice where and how my point is shaped.
>>730702093Its not really sbmm. Your kda and such doesn't account for anything. The system just monitors your propensity for kos then puts you in lobbies with other pvpers.And tarkov is different since there's not really any pve there. People play the game with the expectation that everyone, themselves included, kos.
>>730696848why cant you people just be honest about this>I want to PvP but I'm a pussy who only feels comfortable shooting friendlies when their back is turned
>>730702272>>730701738If you're having emotional outbursts over inconsequential topics you might just be a woman.
>>730702093>Tarkov has no SBMM at all and Tarkov is doing fine Yeah just ignore that were only able to save their game by adding a PVE-only mode LMAO
>>@730702447>you cannot be invested in this argument or you're a womananother non sequitur that doesn't oppose what I said, a symmetry can be seen if your iq is in the lower end but it dissipates when you scrutinize the original stand I made regarding the toxicity of sbm and matchmaking homogeneity. Something that's beyond your intellectual grasp.
>>730702409>ERM CHUD YOU MUST ANNOUNCE YOUR PRESCENCE WHEN YOU WANT TO PVP AND STAND IN THE OPENYou wouldn't last a second in any game
>>730702093Tarkov is filled with cheaters almost to the point you can't even get into a lobby without one Russian with esp beaming you from halfway across the map if he decides your gear is worth it.And even then tarkov caved and implemented a pve only mode.
>>730696848I don't understand why these faggots don't just play Helldivers 2 if they want to avoid pvp so badly.
>>730702669> Tarkov is filled with cheatersThis is a purly made bullshit> And even then tarkov caved and implemented a pve only mode.>>730702586> a PVE-only mode LMAOPvE in tarkov was a mistake and actively ruins the gameThat's why i'm saying that arc don't need pve mode or peaceful lobbies - this shit was devastating for tarkov
>>730702649I'm not the one having a meltdown over being matched with other PvP players bro
>>730702628Trying way too hard to sound white, Sanjeet.
Why are pve and singleplayer fags so whiny? They always demand everyone cater to them all the time when they have a plethora of games to play. They bitch when kino like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYTcvV_mYJM is primarily pvp focused even though it has a pve wave defense mode
>>730702954the only people whining here are PvPfags... over having to PvP
>Game is originally developed as a PVE game>Nexon thinks it won't sell and forces the developer to add PVP>Devs later add a way for people to experience the game as they originally intendeddon't know what the aimbot script kiddies here are so mad about desu, if anything you're the tourists here
>>730702826Third worlder russian detected. So glad they made PvE so your ilk can enjoy aimbotting each other instead.
Why are the servers on this game so shit? It's like it takes forever to find a match that's stable and the connection is shit?
if you want a PvE extraction shooter, play synduality!>tops out at 200 players per day (at like 6AM because that's when Japan is active)>US servers are a baron wasteland free of other players (no PvP or coop). I can play for hours daily after work and not see a single soul for days>cool japanese mecha>doll creator as your pilot assistant
>>730702954>Why are pve and singleplayer fags so whiny? They always demand everyone cater to them all the time when they have a plethora of games to play.I've noticed it too, they bitch and whine whenever a PvP game is announced, despite 90% of all game releases being singleplayer or PvE
The divide between PVP and PVE in this game really reminds me a lot of people playing Souls losing their shit about invasions.
>>730703223invaders shitting their diapers in recent From games is certainly similar to what we're seeing now.
>>730703164>mostly negative reviews>pay to win>dead servers>gacha mechanicsthink i'll pass on this one
>>730703216Bruh you’re in a thread about PvPers crying about being matched with other PvPers
>>730697167You could always do that by playing offline.Invasion is a counterbalance mechanic to the massive difficulty nerf that if co-op phantoms. Always was.>BUT I WANT AN UN-INTERRUPTED CO-OP EXPERIENCE WITH MY FRIENDSDidn't beat the game :^)
>>730703334>>730703523shut up
>>730703514the negativity comes from>retards trying to P2W and dying, therefore losing the stuff they paid for>not being able to party up with friends (ganking anyone playing solo)That's pretty much it, from my experience. There is no gacha, but there is a battle pass. So from my perspective, it's a like a weird online-only singleplayer game that has a very small chance at having multiplayer. I don't know why I get so much fun out of it.
>PVP fags locked in a hole together so they can murder each other all day>PVE bros can enjoy cooperatively fighting the robots and getting loot togetherSo what exactly is the problem here? Seems everyone is enjoying themselves
I've noticed over the last few years just how weird PvE dad gamers arethey go into communities for PvP games, demand PvE and then all anyone that enjoys PvP "toxic" or "psychotic"
>>730696848You wouldn't get it. Braindead meatpuppets who don't like emergent gameplay and immersion should just play cod.
>>730703732you should not be essentially coddled by the devs because you refuse to engage with the game
>>730697167this is the absolute worst comparison possible>pvp in souls is opt-in for EVERY game except DS1>ARC raiders is fundamentally PvPvE >both games highly favor PvE players and give them and edge in literally 99% of scenarios if you arent a complete fucking retard>developers proceed to cater to retard grifter newfags instead of the people who actually play their game>game proceeds to suffer from it for the sake of the minority that doesnt even like the game, nor will ever finish it>the people who choose to engage with the game's mechanics are actively punished over the people who choose to ignore the games mechanics
>>730703903>emergent gameplay and immersion should just play cod.>Emergent gameplay>Fighting roombas and Amazon dronesHalo 3 has more emergent gameplay >ImmersionWeak minded and lacking imagination
>>730703960Aww is wittle baby boy mad he doesn't get to gank all day? Sorry, you get to play with your own kind :D
>>730704024you sound like you got raped on release
>>730704024do you not see how weird this is
>>730704007the fact you cant comprehend why Arc has emergent gameplay means your opinions is worthless. Its a social based game, if the social aspect is entirely manufactures, its not social.Its such a simple concept that its insane /v/ doesnt understand it, because so much of you are too afraid to even use mics in multiplayer games, you fucking faggots.
Arc raiders proves that pvpfags are just shitters who like to shoot people in the back and battledads who can't fight back. When they have to fight other tryhards like them they cry.
>>730704119>Never shoot each other>This is "emergent"
>>730704142When everyone is a snake, no one is
>>730703775PVE dad gamers are locked in separate lobbied from PVP gamers now. What's your problem?
>>730704273my point is that they should stick to PvE games instead of ruining PvP ones
The people bitching about pve modes are mad because the timmies, who were never going to last in pvp anyway, aren't available to be stomped, which leaves them to be stomped by actual pvprs. Different game, same story. They don't actually want pvp, they want to grief noobs. You faggots should be locked in the playpen alongside the babies, forced to shoot npcs until you're confident enough to pull up your pants and fight competent players.
>>730704192The camraderie of cooperation with strangers met out in the middle of a game means a lot less if there isn't any tension from the fact that they might be hostile.
>>730704271I didn't realize snakes cry this much.
>>730704192I misunderstood your post, I thought you were shitting on the game's concept in general
>Every single PVP game has to implement intrusive kernel-level anticheats to try to counter absolutely rampant scripters>Every PVP game inevitably runs into degenerate shit like wintrading and boosting and RMT activities >Even monitor makers are adding shit like undetectable target-highlighting AI filters and PVPfags are wondering why people don't want to roll in the shit puddle with them
