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Well THAT didn't age well.>cue laugh track
>>730704562paul krugman ass take
>>730704562Absolute madmen
>>730704562This is what playing goldeneye on default control style did to people.
>>730704562I bet this dude is rolling in his grave right now
>>730704562boomers thought intuitive controls were the most horrifying thing?
>>730704562>PSXLies. The Gamespot review simply refers to it as the PlayStation. No one called it the PSX. Stop trying to push this trannies
>>730704913its more that stick controls were always shit
>>730704562Always hated twin sticks, this is how I learned.
>>730704562Wow, he's right, that DOES sound like a terrible way to control a first person shooter. How would you even play that properly without a handicap like the game aiming for you?
>>730704562so before the Xbox was invented and showed the world how to make a dual analog controller.
>>730704721It's still true, FPS games play like ass on console.
>>730705654Even Medal of Honor for the PS1 had proper dual stick controls in the options a year ago.
>>730704562Goldeneye also had a dual stick control scheme if you had two controllers plugged in.
It's so ass that nowadays most console FPS games need a soft fucking aimbot to compete so they weren't wrong.
>>730704913Intuitive design just means it's a design that's similar to something else.This was as far from Intuitive as you can get. We had to learn this new style of control. This was brand new, and went against what we've known until this point.
>>730707502Don't give me that nonsense. Older guys had to put up with mystery control schemes because the devs decided to be creative and have no standards so without the manual you would be SoL. Even for extremely simple games on something like the atari or commodore, you couldn't trust the joystick.
>>730704562>right analog stick turns youthat sounds terrible and disorienting
>>730707775it's the exact same control scheme as every modern console shooter, what?also your mouse is on the right side, of course right stick would be used for camera movement?
>>730709919retard
>>730709980What do you think right analog stick does in modern games?
>>730704562Can tell /v/ is young because nobody here knows the quote isn't real
>>730705195>>730705541>>730705727>>730706702>>730709980Nobody asked.Quit spamming.
>>730705489Wait which game did this?
>>730707502>Intuitive design just means it's a design that's similar to something else.That's ...not what intuitive means When I played GoldenEye one time in my life I set the controls up in almost twin stick fashion because it was the only way that made sense and I slaughtered all my friends who played all day. That's what intuitive means.
>>730707502>Intuitive design just means it's a design that's similar to something elseBtw saars I am very expert at the english btw I have my phd in english on quora saars
>>730704562aiming with a controller do be like thatI hate how these things have ruined multiplayer shooters on PC, the whole genre is retarded and not worth playing anymore
>>730710198i asked. this information is important to me and in fact i want even more
>>730710205Rainbow Six on Dreamcast did.
>>730704562Dual analog becoming the standard for console FPS was a huge mistake.
>>730704721It did. Playing FPS games on a console is gay and retarded beyond belief.
>>730710205Every single N64 FPS.
>>730704891I can say i was the only guy in my city that used c-buttons to move (as nowadays WASD) and joystick to aim in goldeneye.
>>730704562>>730704721Absolutely correct. This control scheme is pure ass and killed every first person genre while neutering most 3rd person genres.>>730704913>Give someone a controller and ask him to look up>He looks down>"Oh, heh anon I only play on inverted controls">Ask him to look left>He looks left>Ask him how he managed that when he supposedly only plays on inverted controls >He starts sweating and mumbling profusely>And then everyone clapped.This is not an intuitive control scheme.>>730707679Panning the camera left and right is on the shoulder buttons and you will like it.
>>730705195Yes, and Halo was the first to realize if you wanted to make a console shooter that feels good to play, having some degree of auto-aim to compensate for playing shooters on a console.
>>730704562How did this not instantly feel intuitive to this retard?
>>730713343Up until they decoupled the pitch and yaw from strafe and forward/back, controllers operated just like mouse and keyboard if you had two sticksOne moved you, the other moved the camera
>>730713249Goldeneye basically had full screen aim bot
>>730713249Not really.It was just the first to realize that using an inadequate control scheme required compensation. If Super Mario 64 had just made guesses as to which direction you wanted to move with Dpad to boost its 8 directional resolution instead of using the analog stick, then people wouldn't be praising it for solving 3D platformers on consoles.If they wanted you to play a console shooter in a way that feels good to play, then they should have used a keyboard and mouse or just waited until a controller came out that is actually good at navigating 3D space.>>730713343Because the modern FPS relies on heavy oversimplification and assistance that a 2000s game would not have.
>>730713343Cause it feels like shit? If you're going to play an FPS on console, at least try to emulate WASD+Mouse, which would be face buttons+stick.
>>730713343>how did a control scheme that's different from the standard everyone was used to not feel intuitive"people" who aren't old enough to have played games in the 90s shouldn't be allowed to post here
>>730713462>>730713470I played Duke Nukem 64, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark as a kid on N64. The controls were dogshit. When I played dual analogue, it felt a million times better. Never once did I think "wow this is terrible and awkward, unlike using the face buttons with my right hand to move, and the analogue stick in my left hand to aim"
>>730704562It was kind of crazy how we used shoulder buttons and c-buttons to control the camera for years before people realized a/the right stick would work better.
video games started getting worse when we started using the right stick for the camera, funny coincidence
