On the Nintendo Switch, on Duckstation. It was very comfy. Did I think that the Remake is pointless now?
Now go play Grandma and Xenogears
>>730713078I'm playing Crisis Core FFVII and then rewatching Advent Children (not because I like it), and then replaying FFVII Remake because I never experienced the PS5 version, and then I'm restarting my Rebirth playthrough that I didn't finish.I figure we're close enough to Part 3 that it's a good time to get re-invested.
What does the Lifestream even do?
>>730714497 It's basically the planet's soul goop. When stuff dies, their spirit energy returns to the Lifestream, and when new life is born, it pulls energy back out. It's like a cosmic recycling bin. Shinra tapping into it for Mako and materia was like siphoning your blood to power a toaster. Also sometimes it just floods the surface to dunk on Sephiroth.
>>730714497Honestly, Nojima has no common sense, and the story is retarded. I still don't fully understand what the point was about Cloud thinking he was Zack because Zack made him feel responsibility or something, but then the writer misconstrues it for 90% of the story as though Cloud had a memory transplant because of "jenova cells" or some shit. All the scenes where Cloud has flashes of white is passed off as like "Omg, something about Jenova and having SOLDIER DNA" but then you learn it was all just Cloud pretending and suddenly that previous bit is up in the air and never addressed.
>>730714921It's just sort of "the cosmos" I think. The game has a strong spiritual take on "Earth" that the cosmic universe itself is a living breathing thing, so it's the planet that "decides" what goes on it. Shinra are the corporate america who have tapped the Earth of resources, and Sephiroth/Jenova are the wrath against the human abuse of the planet, but Aerith is the other Cetra who is like a benevolent being, and represents the peaceful nature of the planet or whatever.Then the meteor represents the "wrath" and the lifestream represents the "good", and it's a whole Ying Yang thing. It's basically another Terranigma narrative.I like how at the end they fade to black and then there's an echo of a child's laughter. Many headcanon this as proof that humans survived, but it's also open to the echoed laughter meaning that humans are actually gone, because "they returned to the lifestream, and they're happy despite being dead (just like Aerith)."
>>730715070Those "flashes of white" moments happen because he was infused with mako. Cloud had PTSD and amnesia from Zack dying to protect him, that's why his memories were scrambled.
>>730715323So are they happening because he was mako poisoned or because he has PTSD?
>>730714497The planets blood put simply
>>730715372The game never outright says it, but you're supposed to assume it's a result of Shinra experimenting on him for 4 years with both mako and Jenova cells.
Switch 1 can use Duckstation?
>>730714921Kinda weird. I mean life is already renewable, so what's the point of soul goop? Planets exist without it. Life exists without it. People (Avalanche) argue that it's inherent to the planet's survival, but that's debatable considering the planet (and many others) presumably existed before the goop, and will continue to do so after it expires.>b-but the midgar wasteland!What about it? All mining of any substance causes deterioration in the ecosystem, not to mention there are naturally dry, barren wastelands present on Gaia. Why isn't the goop working its magic in those areas?>tl;drThe Lifestream, ironically, contributes nothing to the creation of life. Spirit energy is an auxiliary, not a necessity. The Green Giant is a parasite that eats memories and causes mutations. Nothing more.
>>730715564You can put it not-so-simply.Why would a planet need blood?
Let me get this straightYou played Final Fantasy VII on the Switch with a Playstation emuator
>>730715690It's just a fictional representation of the "soul" of the planet.You have the physical planet represting us, mortals, and how we treat the planet's body, with Shinra fucking it up, and the other more rural parts doing what they ought to be doing and living in coexistence with mother nature. Then you have the Meteor representing the dark consequences of Shinra, and Lifestream representing the defense of the good people. That's what they display in the final cutscene, that metaphorical colission between the two forces that has been the theme from start to finish in the game, and that is the game's thesis. Aerith transcends being a "girl you loved and remembered" to being "part of the planet" as she lives on through the lifestream and comes to save you, because she loves all the people on Earth, and wants it to survive.So it's just kind of a sweet fairy tale about being kind to the planet we were born on, and a commentary on the fact that all things must pass but all life wants to survive.
>>730715785Yeah. I also played Rayman 2 on Dreamcast and PS1 on it.Now I'm playing Crisis core on PPSSPP's switch port.
>>730715831>Then you have the Meteor representing the dark consequences of Shinra, and Lifestream representing the defense of the good peopleMeteor was cast because of Shinra?
>>730712994I tried FF7. Never played it before.I don't understand why some of you want to pretend this is the "best game ever made". It's pure nostalgia-slop for people who played it decades ago, nothing more.
>>730715736Because it's a living being
>>730716189Sephiroth is a byproduct of Shinra and he casts Meteor, and Hojo thinks it's cool. It represents the wrath of the universe for not treating the planet well.The whole time Shinra are just kind of dealing with a problem they created themselves, and even the Cetra lore has its own version of something similar because they were conquerers.
>>730716257No, it's a pretty long story that makes you feel something by the end of it. Some of it does feel dwarfed by later achievements in how game narratives are done. The very theatrical "hum-ho" style of old Final Fantasy gets in the way sometimes, but I really think once the story accumulates it has a pretty slam dunk ending and it makes you think of the game as a classic. I did grow up with it in a sense but I never actually played it until the Remake came out.
>>730716326Sephiroth's knowledge of Meteor is a byproduct of the Lifestream, which itself is a byproduct of the Black Materia, which is a product of and is in essence the Lifestream itself.Somehow Shinra is responsible?
>>730716416Yes, because Meteor destroys the planet. It's only summoned because you've made Sephiroth, and he takes on the God complex of his conquering ancestor species, and then that kind of symbolizes the mutant offspring of Shinra opening pandora's box with their exploitation of the lifestream and calling it Mako.
>>730716551What prevents anybody else from casting Meteor? Hell, in the new timeline the same writers propose that the Gi both created and "programmed" the Black Materia and Meteor, respectively.So in that context, an outside (alien) lifeform, distraught over the Lifestream's rejection of them, or rather the fact that they're in some sort of limbo as a result of being ambiguously trapped in its energy field, decided to nuke the planet and kill the Lifestream.So the Lifestream unintentionally created an entity that then used the Lifestream to call upon the Lifestream to pluck a celestial body out of space to come down to Gaia and destroy it and the Lifestream itself with it.Now replace the Gi with Sephiroth, because their storylines parallel each other even if their motivations differ.Is Shinra responsible?
>>730716758For me it's less about those pedantics and more what the thematic agenda of the thing is.You clearly see the final image over the outro music to the game being Earth engulfed in the devastation of Meteor interrupted by the "friendly" force of Aerith (pronounced "Earth") because the entire game's character roster has been an embodiement of various ying-yangs of "Nature vs Utility" and "Life vs Death".The whole Bugenhagen exposition is to set up the theme that life eventually passes which would be sad, but it's kind of peaceful and not abnormal. But before the end Cloud makes his speech about "having a reason to fight even though you know life will end."And that's what the whole Meteor conflict is about ultimately. That Earth is life, just like a human, so it will run out of life one day, but can you/should you prolong it, and did we earn it?That's why I insist on Sephiroth casting Meteor as being a byproduct in a chain that ties back to Shinra, because they're the ones sucking the planet dry, he's the guy who's angry and hates "life" on the planet essentially, because the Cetra he feels connected to also were on a similar path as Shinra as destructive beings who don't want to coexist.But a Sephiroth (aka death) is part of any life-cycle, just like Earth (nature/renewal) is.Shinra represents the cause of death of the planet and thus of life. Aerith and Red XIII represent nature, so the pedantics of who could technically cast meteor is missing the forest for the trees IMO, because the agenda of the story is about the whole "Life/Death, ying/yang" thing.That's also why I get concerned with the remake series potentially not committing to Aerith's death. The whole payoff of the original is that she is dead, but you feel like you see her in the lifestream, because it's kino etc.
>>730715619Hacked one I think does
If you're white, yes.
