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Get more RAM while you can...
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Imagine going to an imageboard to post pictures of someone else's words.
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I don't play games that require ram
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Why not just stick with DDR4?
It's still cheap.
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>>730713229
I have 16 gigs of ddr4 I bought twi black fridays ago and rather than put it in my server I think I'm just going to keep it as backups for if my server's current RAM goes bad. RAM prices are truly absurd. I'm glad I bought SSDs last black friday because the SSDs I bought then are now 3x the price today.

Fucking crazy. And the craziest part is that prices are going to keep going up.
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>>730713229
I hate AI
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>>730713229
This is nice. Trying to use an 8GB model in vram only gives me 4000 context. Separating context means I can use a better model and have enough context for a week worth of discussion, or at least I think models are limited to 40,000 context; otherwise basically sky is the limit.
I'm not sure why this wasn't obvious, just as having video gen drop the oldest frames to free memory is obvious and still not done.
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>>730713553
I love AI
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So what stock should I be buying to profit from this?
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>>730713229
>doing prebuild order over a year ago
>friend who picks parts tells me to get 32 gigs
>say fuck it and double up since it didn't increase price that much
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>>730713598
So this is an extremely volatile market that could crash at any point and send RAM prices through the floor while also making it so you can't afford rice and beans, so I would recommend having 80% of your net worth invested in physical supplies, and 20% of your worth invested in defense.
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Oh no
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>>730713229
I haven’t upgraded my pc in 8 years and I can still play new games at max settings. Is 10 year old technology really that unaffordable now?
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>>730713229
>all of this so niggers can make more of this crap
nothing could have prepared me for a future this fake and this gay
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I upgraded in Q2 2025, I should be safe
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>>730713804
I can appreciate seeing diddy and maduro link up as much as the next guy but it is such a retarded use of resources ultimately. I guess we've been filtered, no space for us.
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I'm gonna wait and buy the dip
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>>730713229
Is there anything that can be done to stop pc components from getting more expensive?
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>>730713912
>no space for us.
Space was out of the question long ago when AIPAC got formed
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>>730713594
Because you're a poor jeet who couldn't afford a proper pc anyway
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The pop will happen any day now, right bros?
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>>730713229
>Get more RAM while you can...
Why?
If RAM will get very expensive, this means new games won't require as much of it, which means you won't need as much of it.
You only need a lot of RAM if the average person has a lot of RAM.
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In another year or so AliExpress will be flooded with cheap chink RAM. Just wait.
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>>730713953
Sure but this feels like the finisher. Billions, if not trillions flowing into brainrot generators. There's no coming back from it.
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>>730713768
What are these new games you play at max settings? Pixelshit platformers? I've got a 2 year old PC made with top shelf components and it still struggles to run whatever latest UE5 slop someone farted out because the optimization is a joke and none of these hacks can make a game work. I seriously doubt you'd even get it through the menu with an 8 year old pc.
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>>730713981
Anon...the bubble bursting is not exactly a better option
AI is the only reason the stockmarket reversed its post covid freefall
the AIjews got us all locked in a checkmate here, either support the slop or usher in another great depression
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>>730713229
Nah. If it gets out of range, price simply gets out of range.
I'm okay playing older games. If the majority of gamers can't get new hardware, devs will just develop for lower spec machines.
So that probably means things will stall graphically for a long time while this AI nonsense is going big.
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>>730714087
Good guy USA is disentangling from Europe just before the collapse, to spare our markets. Thank you, daddy USA. Go die alone so you don't stink up the place.
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I asked gpt5.2 (with reasoning) to make me a build in Rogue Trader and it used out of date information from 3 years ago on top of making up some abilities.
40% of the worlds RAM btw.
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i voted for this
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>>730713229
>AI bro thinks DDR5 prices getting even worse is a "good thing" BECAUSE LE SCALABILITY FOR LE CHATBOTS
Can't wait for the day that we start killing these fags.
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>>730714087
Pretty sure you're getting the great depression either way.
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Are GPT/etc doing much to optimize their shit or is it just deepseek
I don't pay attention to the technicals of these much but I do remember when deepseek R1 (or was it V3?) released the whole thing was about how it was low power, and now I guess the OP
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>>730713996
>new games won't require as much of it
lol lmao even
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>>730713229
I woke up now (im in eu).
I have a meeting at the bank today.
I'll borrow 2,000 euros.
I'll use part of it to buy a DDR5 (64GB) hard drive.
(I still won't be able to build a complete computer, but at least I'll have the peace of mind of knowing I'll have some of it.)
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This whole situation is such a transparent scalping play
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>>730714157
>europe will be fine
Buddy you are beyond fucked. If we ever have to go back to merchant convoys the shreds of your healthcare is going to pay for a new destroyer lmao
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>>730714087
You're getting another great depression anyway. By supporting AI all you're doing is making a few rich people even richer while gaining nothing in return.
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Why is it so hard to scale up silicon manufacturing? I feel like it's easily been half a decade with constant supply shortages around all of this stuff. The writing on the wall has been obvious for quite a while. When is China going to make new factories?
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>>730714285
>I'll use part of it to buy a DDR5 (64GB) hard drive.
>(I still won't be able to build a complete computer, but at least I'll have the peace of mind of knowing I'll have some of it.)
damn sorry for shitty google translate. (im german)

i literally have to run - the appointment is soon.
just wanted to say that i was about to go and get money to buy me DDR5 64 just to be sure.

I also think it will only get WORSE.
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>>730713981
There is no bubble, fake news
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>>730713229
This nigger pays for twitter
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>>730714087
We are already on course for a massive depression unlike anything we’ve ever seen. People are getting laid off en masse and no one is hiring. The job numbers are fake. AI is part of the reason but not all of it. The AI financial bubble will collapse because companies are going out of business. The corporate need for AI is declining because businesses are failing.

AI will stick around though, the technology is useful and also improving. I have no idea what’s going to happen to the population though. They’re going to have to invent some new jobs out of thin air to stimulate the economy again.
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>>730714374
you have to pay for twitter if you want to have it as a part of your buiseness.
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>>730713996
>Why?
To keep artificial demand going since prices will never go down, ever, it's very important for companies who produce DDR to pump prices as high as possible and to achieve this they want extremely high demand NOW
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>>730713996
>If RAM will get very expensive, this means new games won't require as much of it
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>>730714328
There hasn't been a memory shortage for 5 years, it only started last year. Before that there was a borderline oversupply of memory which is why it was so cheap for a long time. There have been memory shortages before but a lot of the time its due to natural disasters and shit like that in the places where the chips are made.
It takes years to build a new fab.
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>>730714328
Printing 10 trillion dollars and spending it all on RAM is instant, building a factory that produces RAM is not. There has been no RAM shortage.
Also, GPUs are in state of nvidia monopoly, there has been no shortage of GPUs only extreme prices. Because everyone is willing to pay those prices.
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>>730714394
>AI will stick around though, the technology is useful and also improving. I have no idea what’s going to happen to the population though. They’re going to have to invent some new jobs out of thin air to stimulate the economy again.
i just want to have a "working horse PC".
all my skills rely on having a PC.
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There is planty of resources being wasted right now, it just needs optimization.
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I hope I can wake up one day.
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>>730714262
>or is it just deepseek
Deepseek figured out that you dont need to train a model from scratch and you can instead train a model with other models.
so they side stepped the billions dollar cost to have impressive (but not as good) performance.
it's less of an optimization and more of a trick, because someone had to do the work originally, you wouldn't have deepseek without the billions cost of GPT.

>it was low power
even the smallest useful Chinese models take a 4090 and 32gb of RAM to run, and they run like shit and produce output worse than gpt4.
it's impressive for what it is but it's not really that groundbreaking.
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>>730714328
part of the issue is that there was a memory surplus and all the factories scaled down.
RAM was cheap the last few years.
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lol YES, BUY NOW WHILE ITS ALL EXPENSIVE! RUSH RUSH RUSH TO HAND OVER CASH FOR SHIT WHILE ITS THE MOST EXPENSIVE ITS EVER BEEN
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>>730714328
China is in the process of making new factories, it just takes a long time to get it up and running. And even China hasn't decoupled itself from the global market so a lot of specific know-how needs to either be negotiated with foreign companies or they need to invest in learning it themselves which is also an entirely new process that will take a long time.
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>>730714320
you pay more for worse healthcare than we do bro
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>>730714394
Nah they'll just kill off two thirds of the population and reintroduce serfdom.
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>>730714443
Well right now all of this shit is in peak demand which is the worst time to buy. At some point this shit will be oversold and everything will get massively discounted. At the very worst it will stabilize at some reasonable price and then you can buy.

People getting fomo during peak demand almost always get burned.
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>>730714553
>worse healthcare
You're actually fucking retarded lol
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Why don't you just learn a trade that doesn't need PCs?
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>>730713339
I would be surprised if you had a single truly original thought of your own. Your entire life is resynthesizing words of those who came before you.
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>>730714394
> invent some new jobs
we're going to mars
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>>730714639
Everything will be very cheap when AI gets much more advanced, it's just temporary
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>>730714562
I do think a massive world war is one very likely possibility.

Either that a or a complete restructure of society. There really is no need to kill people, there’s enough food and housing for everyone. The real need is to pacify people.
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>>730713804
They look like cousins who have nothing in common getting their picture taken together at Christmas by grandma.
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>worrying about the future
you are going to get droned or gunned down by a turret
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>>730714157
Europe is not independent entity, if you get your panties in a twist to the point of willingly decoupling from usa over frozen shithole, you will need a new host to attach yourself to, which will be either china or russia, have fun.
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>>730713229
AI is just a scam the chinks are running to force production of tech within their borders. Always was.
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>>730713229
Nah
We're on the track to cooling actually
OpenAI (the hyperscaler behind the buying out 40% of all imaginary RAM) keeps losing contracts, recently lost an Apple contract to Google. Tech is turning it's back on Scam Altman.
Google is leading and they don't stupidly build out above scale, and they also make their own chips.
The guy in your image is just kinda spouting random nonsense probably because he's holding the bag.
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>>730714824
>or russia
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>>730714831
>openAI and Trump are chinks
Live and learn
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>>730713229
In English, Professor?
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dont need better than DDR4 to play most games and due to PC gaming getting more expensive i expect more devs to cater to poors more and for technological jumps to not be grow as much, so my ddr4 should last another 8 years.
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>>730714940
HANGING ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW
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>>730714959
shits fucked
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>>730714639
are you sure we will return?
i studied this case a lot...
some factories will start working only around the end of 2026
and in general "going back" will happen only somewhere 2028-2023

thats a fuckton of time... and then we not even sure if "theyyyyyy" (companies) will allow us to have pre 2025 prices at all
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>>730714870
GPT is too censored, that's why. Others will accelerate further
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>DDR5
not my problem
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>>730714824
Europe was independent at one point but last ruler that had such view was de Gaulle
>left NATO because mutts shouldn't be involved in Europe
>warned everyone not to let UK into EU or mutts will seize control over EU via UK
Obviously mutts used color revolution to see him gone but he was right, now both NATO and EU exist to serve US and literally nobody in Europe can even comprehend that countries can be independent, not even anons like you because of so much mutt brainwashing
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>>730713435
>It's still cheap
it's still cheaper than ddr5 but the price for ddr4 is rising as well
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>>730714971
Reminder that Crysis was possible and still looks good
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>>730714824
Oh no, not China. The country that is invested in having stability since it helps grow the economy. At this point China is a more reliable partner than USA and is increasingly the lesser of two evils. America had its time but they decided that they wanted to shit the bed and burn all the bridges that didn't lead to Israel.
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>>730713229
Steam Deck 2 is the only RAM I need.
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I just looked up the system requirements of all the best games of all time and I didn't notice any that require more than 1gb of ram
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>>730714087
Sunk cost
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>>730715031
>mutts mutts mutts
post country so i can laugh at your euromutt figures of foreign born heritage
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>>730715068
boomer take
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>>730715063
Nothing says stability like 3 men for every 1 woman.
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>>730715126
>mutts puppets infest Europe with migrants
Is this your point, really? Obviously Europe are going to be mutts themselves in future generation, that's the point of migration.
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>>730715031
Are you Russian or something?
NATO is service to US
EU is service to Germany
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>>730715031
See this >>730715063 mentality is why europe will never be anything more than a leech for foreseeable future, there is no will for independence, just parasite looking for another host.
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>>730715005
That too but also Google's models are generally ahead of OpenAI's (hence the code red Altman raised late last year)
And on top of that CEOs are waking up and would rather work with a safe bet company who has income besides AI
And mind you Altman is singlehandedly to blame for the RAM scare, you've been sharing markets with the tech companies for years and you haven't even noticed
Hyperscaling is the key problem here and it's driving the entire bubble chain (OpenAI, Nvidia, Oracle, Softbank) into running out of imaginary money to throw into the black hole
tl;dr AI isn't going anywhere, but the clowns behind excessive hoarding of software are on borrowed time
>inb4 too big to fail, bailout, etc
OpenAI's competition will not allow them to get a bailout because they'll want to collect the scraps, bubble aside "ChatGPT" is a known name and Google/Microslop/Anthropic would surely like to buy it
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>>730713229
When the prices get so high they alienate the consumer market, the bubble bursts. Exactly what happened with chinese housing bubble few years back.
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>check the price of my RAM sticks again
>the price increased ÂŁ100 in a month
Average waitfag must be pic related at the moment
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>>730713229
>AI company publishes new paper that says they need more money
woah
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What are some ways to increase the longevity of your PC components and reduce the odds of random failure
i havent had a major component like a video card fail in like ten years but that could just mean i'm due..
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>>730714986
No, of course I’m not sure. If I could predict the future price of things I would be way richer than I am now. But right now there’s not only AI companies buying this (which might go under and lead to a liquidation of all of their useful tech components) but also speculative buyers that are buying this shit up to sell later. At some point there is going to be a switch from demand excess to supply excess, and depending on how big of the flip it could result in massive discounts.

Again the price will stabilize at some point, it’s basic economics. This also isn’t a brand thing it’s a technology thing. It’s not like the price of a switch 2 which Nintendo has sole control over. It’s the free market.
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>>730715228
>goal is "you'll own nothing"
>he think they care about normal people buying RAM ever again
Anon, it's cloud gaming future (no matter how fucking awful it will be, there won't be alternative), renting, subscription, etc. services. You will own nothing, not home, not car, not even computer.
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>>730715305
>it's cloud gaming future (no matter how fucking awful it will be, there won't be alternative)
The alternative will be that people go back to drinking in bars again if the expensive tech they buy doesn't fucking work. Google Stadia failed miserably because the input lag was simply too much. Value of GPU and RAM depreciates so fast in 2-5 years that they can't keep them rotting in a warehouse forever with prices up.
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>>730715204
That's what I thought pussy.
>DURRRRRRRRRR ITS AMERICA'S FAULT
it's our fault that swedish women have such an affinity for somalians that both their biggest diasporas are in the same area? Really nigger?
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>>730715215
I'm not looking for a host, I'm looking for the least shitty option. My ideal scenario would be Europe picking themselves up from their bootstraps and actually start doing something themselves, independent of the rest of the world. More teamwork within Europe working toward a shared goal. But since our politicians are spineless no matter who you try to vote for I can only go down the realistic route, which right now is partner-vassalage with China. At least they won't threaten to bomb up because they know that'd also hurt the economy they are preciously trying to cultivate. With America you won't know what schizo shit you'll wake up to next morning, every morning.
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>>730714039
>imagine a cat twerking on the hood of your car forever
It would be funny if it weren't so sad
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>>730715228
The bubble will burst much earlier than that because the companies who lead in AI are outside of the bubble that overspends and overpromises
OpenAI won't survive because literally all they have is AI
Nvidia will lose the artificial growth but they'll be fine because they have the consumer market (you can tell they know about the future of the bubble because they keep up gaming research and development and will bring back old GPUs for a bit if they have to, just to keep their core brand)
Oracle will be fine because they own the data centers and will just rent out to someone else
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>>730713229
why can't chinks just copy the technology and produce their pc parts?
>b-but it takes years
yeah they had like 40 years
they produce fucking cars and everything, why not ram
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>>730715514
>Oracle will be fine because they own the data centers and will just rent out to someone else
I don't know about that one, because value of data center GPU and RAM depreciates so fast that US banks don't accept them as collateral for loans. So Oracle would have to find a good alternative really fast after the bubble bursts or the whole warehouse turns into metal junk storage.
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>>730715305
>You will own nothing, not home, not car, not even computer.
Too late for all of that on my part, bozo.
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>>730715575
Fair enough
And i don't think Softbank will be willing to go down with them
I amend what i said, only Nvidia will survive
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>>730715519
Corruption and corner cutting. Xi cracked down on chinese tech companies taking CCP funding 4 years back, main leaders all went to prison for corruption charges when it turned out 80% of the funds were embezzled. Its hard to make quality products or research in planned economy environment where government sets quotas that you have to meet no matter what. If they already know they're going to fail, then they will just cut corners, lie about the results and keep some of the money for themselves.
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>>730715519
>they produce fucking cars and everything, why not ram
Computer parts require high precision manufacturing that your local chink sweatshop assembly line couldn't replicate.
By the time the ultimate a DDR5 factory, DDR6 will be already out.

>>730715575
>Oracle would have to find a good alternative really fast after the bubble bursts or the whole warehouse turns into metal junk storage.
I for one look forward to 2027 RAM prices costing 10$
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>>730713229
>BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY RIGHT NOW!!! BUY IT RIGHT NOW THE MEMORY'S GONNA RUN OUT AND THE PRICES WILL BE GOUGED FO-RE-VER THEY WILL GO UP UP UP BUY BUY BUY!!!
No, I don't think I will.
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>>730715519
I'll let you in on a secret anon, the "shortage" (which isn't an actual shortage, it's a shortage based on """contracts""" which are likely to not be fulfilled because of the quicksand OpenAI is built on) isn't physical, they're in capacity to produce more chips, it's not that the fabs are firing on all cylinders, manufacturers admitted they could produce more but won't because they don't want to be left with too much product in case the bubble pops (which it will)
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>>730713229
nah I'll just never upgrade again if prices never drop. if my shit breaks then I guess I'm not a gameur anymore. you aren't going to get me with this bullshit

>>730713658
same I have way more ram than I will ever need.
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>>730715754
>manufacturers admitted they could produce more but won't because they don't want to be left with too much product in case the bubble pops (which it will)
One would think it would be smarter to manufacture and leave some on the storage for selling to consumers with the old prices if the bubble popping is inevitable. Data center GPUs and RAMs are overused by the data centers so their value would be strictly worse compared to basically brand new unused GPUs waiting in a warehouse.
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>sure we're going to pay a gorillion dollars for PC parts from now on, but it's all worth it to enshittify every single product in existence, make customer support services impossible to get anything out of, and destroy the intelligence and education of children and the common man forever!
There's never been such a successful technology that has no benefits from any angle before. It's like a study in self destruction.
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>>730715883
You would think but they're basically "monitoring the situation" for lack of the better word
Not doing anything until the situation unfolds i guess
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I was going to get a new pc this year but I'm not sure what to do now. Most ddr5 cost 500-900 euros here so I'll probably just end up getting ddr4 for 200 and call it a day. It's crazy that this shit can happen so suddenly.
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>>730715305
>there won't be alternative
Except there will be because at the end of the day the free market means demand will get supply. Even if that demand means a regression of video game graphics back to the sort of games that can be run off a toaster.
The ruling elites have had retarded ideas since the day humanity had elites and it never works out for them longer term. There is no viable market for big budget video games via cloud gaming.

The idea of locking down all personal computers to a service style model while also boasting access to video games by download to run them directly on the computer are hardly exclusive concepts and are likely the end position. Computers will become like game consoles, completely locked down hardware. This cloud service shit isn't going to happen.
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ITT: Seething artroons and codetroons
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>>730715962
It can end just as suddenly, we have yet to see how the stock market will react to Apple picking Google over OpenAI
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>>730713229
Wouldn't announcing it like this makes the price hike even worse?
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>>730713229
maybe we can get like DLSS but for memory, so the game hallucinates half of itself
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>literally the only shine of hope i had in the future was eventually getting to create my own version of the matrix were i could live out all of my degenerate fantasies in peace not having to worry about the desolate future humanity was heading into
>the world is moving towards a state were high tech is only reserved for the elite while the rest must consiously live in this hell
can somebody nuke this shitshow already
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>>730715997
>free market
Is this free market in the room with us right now?
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>>730716048
>the world is moving towards a state were high tech is only reserved for the elite while the rest must consiously live in this hell
Thats not going to happen, theres not enough rich elite out there to offset the loss of losing the middle class as your consumerbase. If the most important consumer class would be rich people, then yacht companies and 5 star hotel chains would be biggest companies in the world, not Amazon or Google.
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>>730716048
>the world is moving towards a state were high tech is only reserved for the elite while the rest must consiously live in this hell
None of this is happening anon
You shouldn't listen to the blackpills on here
There's just a temporary opportunistic rise in RAM prices as a knee jerk reaction to the OpenAI deal
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>>730714824
Bro, if USA fucks off, we will buy petrol and gas from Iran, and cheap trash from China.
We are only tense with these countries because of USA.

No iranian ever wanted to steal my arctic island.
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>>730716105
>If the most important consumer class would be rich people, then yacht companies and 5 star hotel chains would be biggest companies in the world, not Amazon or Google.
Anon, asset companies like Blackrock are the biggest companies in the world because that is the true Elite playground to flex your wealth that and the underage human trafficking market the ultra rich play games we arent even allowed to enter
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>>730714417
>"let us fund, produce and advertise a game that only 4% of users can run"
Said no publisher ever.
It used to be common sense that games are developed for the mainstream hardware. If the mainstream hardware is low RAM, games will be developed for low RAM.
That's the whole reason behind the "consoles are keeping graphics back" argument back when.
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I'm whitepilled, AI will solve it
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>>730713229
Literally unaffected.
I already have 32GB, and modern games aren't still using that much.
>I-it'll get there eventually
Good, I'll play some other games then. Or lower the settings.
>y-your PC won't last forever
I have 2 other spare PC on which I can play older games
>t-they could break
I also have a laptop, can play light indie games and old games.

I'm set until 2040 even if this shit doesn't change.
Actually fucking glad I upgraded to 32GB last year before all of this price cucking started.
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>64 GB
I don't even have a reason for having this much.
I pretty plan to quit vidya after DS2 comes out anyway.
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>>730716160
>There's just a temporary opportunistic rise in RAM prices as a knee jerk reaction to the OpenAI deal
just like GPU prices would totally go back to normal and cheap GPU's would flood the market once crypto popped right?
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>>730713996
>, this means new games won't require as much of it,
lmao no they fired everyone who could optimize shit
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>>730716245
They have, yes
That did happen actually. It's how i got a 3090 24GB on the cheap
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>>730716201
>let us fund, produce and advertise a game that only 4% of users can run
Anon, this reasoning didn't stop companies to actually release games like that.
Borderlands 4 or less recent Monster Hunter Wild running like shit even with a 5090 is an example.
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>>730716315
Didn't both of these games underperform in sales
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>>730713229
No you retard, you do the exact opposite of what these faggots reported
>oh no, bitcoin/stock x/gold is sky rocketing, dont miss the hype train!
When you stop seeing articles like that is the time to buy
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>>730716191
>Anon, asset companies like Blackrock are the biggest companies in the world
Blackrock Nordic strategist Roelof Salomons already alarmed that AI bubble might burst in 1-2 years.
>>730716245
That already happened. Just two months ago GPU prices were coming down for the holiday season. Now RAM prices raised them up again.
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>>730713996
>If RAM will get very expensive, this means new games won't require as much of it
Oh yeah, right, that's why most new games don't need a recent GPU to run. Capitalism just works!
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People need to realize that the AI bubble is going to pop, but also what the AI bubble actually is
The AI bubble (the thing you're competing with for hardware) is OpenAI, Oracle and Nvidia
The companies who don't run on debt and don't build beyond scale are outside of the bubble and they don't threaten your ability to get hardware either
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>>730716358
Correct, but they didn't know that prior to release the games.
The companies were confident enough to release said games in such a state nonetheless.
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>>730716201
Anon, game companies literally do not care about the performance of their PC ports. If you can't tell this after the last couple of years, I really have no idea what to tell you.
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>>730716664
Anon, CDPR nearly went bankrupt because of bad Cyberpunk performance on release.
Steam has mass refunded and pulled multiple games due to bad performance on release.
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>>730716708
That was mainly because CP2077 performed like utter shit even on consoles. Remember the shitshow at release on PS4? It was literally unplayable.
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>>730713553
It's done nothing good other than enable the braindead and incompetent.
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>>730716664
>Anon, game companies literally do not care about the performance of their PC ports.
Japanese companies are usually lazy with it, but eventually the performance patch comes out. Its the reason why I'm not going to buy Nioh 3 on release because I know it will run like shit for the first 3-4 months, just like Nioh 2 did.
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>>730716708
And that refutes my point... how, exactly?

>>730716791
>picrel
Yeah, I would.
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>>730716708
and yet companies continue to release games like Stalker 2 and MHW2 with no optimization at all and vague "use upscale and framegen, lol" answers from developers
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>>730716874
>use upscale and framegen
I LOVE HAVING 93.75% OF THE CONTENT I SEE HALLUCINATED BY AI
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>>730716874
>Slavjank game has performance issues.
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>>730713376
hahaha the joke is that fish have no memory
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>>730713435
>It's still cheap.
ddr4 doubled in price.
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Not in defense of DLSS at all
But i think it's funny that people both believe that Nvidia will leave the consumer market AND are mad at the ongoing development of DLSS technology which is exclusively a video game thing
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>>730717104
People are more mad at UE5 and developers lazily forcing people to use DLSS or their games will run like shit.
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I'm all set
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I threw away a shitty old laptop with 4GB RAM in it. It was classic old ass green RAM sticks, PC ran like shit too
Did I just throw away a gem or was it simply too outdated for anything?

I even opened the damn thing to keep the 250GB HDD but the ram sticks looked so shitty that I just kept them there
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>>730714734
>massive world war
Between who? Russia got humiliated by USA with Maduro and China has been building soft power for ages now so it's unlikely they want an open war with NATO.

>>730715031
As long as Europe is stuck in its current state of cultural and political self hate, we won't be superpowers again. USA is the boss for now.

>>730715063
It's a surveillance state dystopia you commie faggot. You fell for propaganda. As bad as the USA can be it's not even remotely as dehumanizing as China, and that says a lot in the current jew tranny white replacement meta.
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>>730717341
kill yourself retard
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>>730717341
kill yourself retard
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/v/ - Video Games?
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>>730715031
Tick Tock Euronigger, Daddy USA isn't going to protect you now.
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>ai is the future lmfao
>it’ll get even more advanced soon
We literally can’t keep up with the amount of resources it’s consuming. What if AI won’t be able to advance much further beyond what it is now due to the astronomical resource consumption? Everyone is dumping billions of dollars into this shit and there’s no guarantee that we can keep it going at this rate. What if we just run out of the shit that keeps it going? What then?
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>>730715063
>The country that is invested in having stability since it helps grow the economy.
Look at all this stability going on in China.
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>>730713435
Sellers are seeing that prices are increasing so they also increase their prices with the expectation that you will still pay for it.
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>>730717561
Whatever happened there.
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>>730713435
For now
I'm going all in and rammaxxing, I got some DDR5 but have a backup DDR4 system just in case.
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>>730713229
and claude still won't be able to beat a game designed for 6 year olds on it's own
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>>730714157
We should bomb your worthless shithole out of existence
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>>730714087
I would rather just enter depression and have politicians, businessmen, the market, and major banks accept reality instead of passing the same bag of IOU debt back and forth forever to ignore it while things gradually get worse and worse.

Right now, the US Government and the Fed have agreed to print more money than the entirety of consumer spending for the last 20 years. You're in a depression, it's just being ignored.
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>>730717596
>What then?
Anon havent you read any dystopian future novels or movies?
recourse wars
thats the answer
This shit will not end until the last 2 people on the planet fight over the last stick on the ground
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>>730716161
>my arctic island
rmao
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>>730717418
>>730717428
Russian or Chinese bots? Call it
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>>730717341
Oh, an actual retard
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>>730717612
Oh you fucked up now, Anon
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>>730717327
Depends on the CPU and what the max ram compacity is. I'm assuming it runs DDR3 which is still cheap right now so if you doubled the RAM and put an SSD in it with a fresh copy of W10 LTSC it would've been fine for web browsing and porn.
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>>730717758
Technically speaking he is correct, that post was made by blackest gorilla nigger
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>>730717053
DLSS is like magic
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>>730714695
You are a sub-human gorilla nigger with no thoughts at all. You are actual fucking vermin and I want everyone remotely like you jettisoned into space.
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>>730717763
>>730717859
You will bitch and moan but somehow you won't tell me how I'm wrong.
Stop whining vatniks and wumaos, the decadent USA golems are still stronger than you, and they still own us Europeans as vassals, it's a fact of life and the sooner you stop coping the better
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>>730717758
kill yourself retard
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>upgrade from 3080 10gb to 5080
>try unrealslop 5 games
>compare medium textures to ultra
>there's barely any difference, not even noticeable in gameplay
>the only difference is when you turn textures to low which makes the game look like it's from ps3 gen
vram is a meme
ram is a meme
everything's a meme
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>>730713972
>cries about being poor and not being able to afford something
>calls others poor when called out on it
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>>730713229
>On the verge of panic buying a prebuilt since some of them are good deals now.
>Also have a feeling that when I get one, the prices will come down and all the panic will have been for nothing.
I hate being a pussyfooting waitfag.
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>>730714081
maybe try not playing in 4gay and turn off goytracing
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>>730717561
Yes, anon, hardware needed to run video games is video games territory.
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>>730713553
Congrats on the transition anon!
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>>730717984
Its not the textures that make the difference. Textures are very easy to make ultra-realistic nowadays thanks to photogrammetry, you can make an ultra-realistic 3D model of your face with your own cellphone and good light source right now. The difference between card performances depend on what resolution you're playing with. If you're playing with 1080p or 2k then all modern games run just fine with 3060 12 Gb. If you really want the 4k meme then you have to have the 4000+ series.
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>>730717998
Prebuilts are good for "fresh start rigs" if your rig is too old that you need to replace most stuff anyway. You can then replace prebuilt parts with better ones over time.
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>>730718093
I'm on 4k but atleast I can use ps4 emulator longer than 30 minutes before needing to restart it due to vram leaks lmao
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>>730713229
That's all well and good for people who don't have DDR5, but TIME UNTIL KOBOLD IS UPDATED TO LEVERAGE THIS TO GIVE ME EVEN MORE ABSOLUTELY MORE DISGUSTING FILTH WHEN?
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>>730717998
>Also have a feeling that when I get one, the prices will come down
Like they did with GPU? Come on, prices will never go down, ever.
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>>730714824
Europe has absolutely no need for America, their economy is well diversified and they are capable of manufacturing everything they need. The US relies heavily on parasitic tech companies being adopted abroad, very little is lost by dumping them.
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No, for fuck sake, no. I WON'T buy in advance, I WON'T give up to fear and burn money. I WILL upgrade as usual in next 5 years or something since my last upgrade was around 2 years ago. If by some chance I won't be able to afford PC anymore or won't be able to buy components, I will stick to what I have until it break down.

Stop fearmongering. Stop spreading panic to make people buy things they don't need yet. FOMO is a bitch and people already hoard various physical and digital goods most of which they won't be even able to consume due to sheer number of those. This is ridiculous and I won't take part of it. Fuck it all.
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>>730718026
>Max settings
>1080p.
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>>730718249
As much as I would love EU to be fully independent, if US will get mad they might force MS to cut off Windows remotely and it's not some crazy conspiracy theory idea.
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>>730718289
waitbros just keep getting btfo lmao.
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>>730718128
Yeah all my parts are from 2017-18 so they all need an upgrade. Not a fan of prebuilds but some I've been looking at would be cheaper than getting the parts separately.
>>730718237
You're right, but I just have dogshit luck and always seem to make the wrong decisions.
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>>730718289
Anon, I want to believe, but waiting got us into this mess. I don't know if waiting will get us out anymore.
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>>730718347
I don't "wait". When I need something, I buy it. When I don't, I leave it be. I refuse to burn money at specific moment because HOLY SHIT PRICES WILL GO UP. Same shit as with GPU - I was told thousands of times to BUY NOW but I kept using my then RX480. After 7 years bought RX6700XT, which I use now. Meanwhile passed several BUY NOW OR IT WILL BE TOO LATE periods. What I missed? Maybe some expensive card that I would have to replace anyway?
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>>730718336
Oh nooooo what will we do without microslop and windows.... If they did that it would lead to one of the greatest overnight advancements in software we've ever seen. The fear of them doing that should already get European governments to remove windows from all critical systems.
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>we are going back to the days it was cheaper to buy a prebuilt and take the gpu out than to buy it separately but with ram
Oof
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>>730718481
The point is that you don't wait for prices and quality to match. You are not supposed to wait at all. Waiting would mean postponing purchase because of incoming another model/situation/etc that would be more profitable for you, as in "why should I buy Penetrator9000 when ExtraPenetrator9500 is releasing next month?". Instead you have "oh no, I HAVE to buy Penetrator9000 RIGHT NOW even if I don't need it yet because prices will go up soon!". First approach is reasonable to a degree (and you could argue that it can be indefinitely prolonged in "wait loop"), second is just FOMO shit pushing you to waste money. Don't do this to yourself.
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>>730718336
>be EU in 2027
>trump mad EU is still going
>order MS to lock windows out of EU
>EU panics and in a week all the public administration PCs are upgraded to Ubuntu
>legacy software run on old windows that stopped receiving updates long ago
>life resumes normally
>eventually Trump lifts the lock
>40% of global Microsoft Windows market permanently lost

Masterful gambit sir.
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>>730718558
Of course, what could go wrong with remotely disabling OS that runs on overwhelming majority of consumer and government PCs? Surely everyone would just snap their fingers and magically install some cool Linux distro within minutes with everything working 100% correctly.

What are you smoking?
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>>730714328
Only one company produces the machines needed to make cutting edge chips and they weren't (aren't?) allowed to export to China.
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>>730718558
>remove windows from all critical systems.
Pretty sure no critical system use windows, anywhere on Earth, not just EU. Windows system just isn't stable enough to be used in any critical structure.
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>>730714394
>I have no idea what’s going to happen to the population though.
War.
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>>730718336
Its a pointless horror scenario because top 3 global marketplaces in the world are US, EU and China in that order. If US wants to make money they trade with EU and vice versa, there is no secret 4th big market ready to replace the loss of a trade partner out there.
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>>730713229
even more? I already have 256GB, can't even fit that shit in my pc but /v/ keeps telling me to buy more and more before they hike the price even higher, gotta take out a loan if this keeps going.
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>>730718752
It's either that or getting defaulted due to massive service outages.
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>>730714087
But i WANT your turd world shithole to collapse
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>>730718493
>>730718649
I see what you're saying. The problem for me is that I was originally going to build a new pc last year since my parts are showing their age, put it off and then got blind sided by the massive price increase. Now I'm at the point where I either wait and risk things getting way worse or just rip off the band-aid now and just upgrade. I agree that panic upgrading from 2 year old parts is a bad investment and just falling for fomo.
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>>730718840
There are airports running on Windows 3.x and I shit you not.
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>>730718736
I was upset when he cucked out of arresting hillary but ending microshit spyware by jeets would almost make up for it.
At least it would convince me more he's our guy than whatever gayop they are doing with venezuela
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I held out, I was so proud of my 1070 lasting this long. but now this little soldier has cost me...
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>>730718889
>in that order.
False. China have more middle class citizens than entire US population, not even talk about EU. Chinese market is desired by every company as top priority. You can even see so with games where developers only care about Chinese player opinion while nobody cares what US/EU want.
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>>730714087
Let it all burn
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>>730713229
So much could be solved by simply building a giant wall around India and dropping all the escaped jeets back into it.
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no such thing as a free lunch. that Dalle3 peach smut cost you.
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>>730718840
...did you never left your house or what?
There are banks, airports, public services and so on that still rely on old windows version because they used to just work.
And I'm not saying W7 old, I'm talking about XP, 95, even 3.1 in some cases.
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>>730713229
I have 32gb and another 32gb in an old PC, I'll probably be ok for a bit
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It's too soon to buy yet. Everyone knows that you should always buy at the top.
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>>730718859
Robo wives
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>>730719681
that video made my next PC cost more! stop!
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>>730713229
Big if huge
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>>730713229
Small if fake
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>>730713229
I've been thinking about stocking up on chinkshit ddr3
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>>730717952
i feel like i read this post back in 2018
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>>730714870
>[Google] make their own chips
They _design_ their own chips*, they don't have their own fabs. Fab capacity is the limiting factor for chip production and Google consumes fab capacity, so Google is still sensitive to and participates in shortages.

* Sometimes. Some of "their" chips are rebrands of chips designed by other companies, e.g. the Tensor SoCs in Pixel devices are really Samsung Exynos SoCs.

>>730715883
>One would think it would be smarter to manufacture and leave some on the storage for selling to consumers with the old prices if the bubble popping is inevitable.
Server grade memory chips aren't the same as consumer grade memory chips. If they produced all the memory chips for AI that they're supposed to, after the bubble they'd be left with ECC chips that are no good for gaming (more expensive, higher latency, require specialised CPU and memory).
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>>730718736
>in a week
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>>730717053
The real trick is to 5-6x MFG and have your monitor refresh rate just offset enough where you're only ever getting fake-frames shown, while the real ones get lost between refreshes for that 100% AI content.
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>>730713229
I'm so fuckin excited to get a chatbot in my washing machine
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Soon
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>please panic buy
>do it now
no
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>>730714087
>AI is the only reason the stockmarket reversed its post covid freefall
You are a colossal retard. Useful idiot doesn't even begin to describe you.
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>>730721149
Just letting you know
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Only 4 years until the new decade. Can't be much worse than this one right? Right?
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>>730721414
Only better, just like AI was useless 3 years ago and look at it go now
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>>730713229
I don't even care anymore
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>>730721495
Yeah, still can't even beat Pokemon Red or correctly translate shonen manga. What an advancement.
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>>730716358
A small sacrifice for the new era of milking.
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>>730718336
>they might force MS to cut off Windows remotely
Why bother private companies when the IANA is a subsidy of a US agency? Good luck without IP addy
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>>730713704
They want people to just hand over their "old" stuff so that they can sell it and profit?
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>>730721647
I mean, even retarded 4 year old japs can read shonen manga and beat pokemon. Meanwhile, what can AI do other than make everything it gets integrated to shit?
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>>730714087
We got through the 1930s. We got through 2008-2010. We can get through this too. There is nothing America can't survive.
I WILL have faith.
I WILL stop doomfagging.
I WILL take the whitepill.
AI WILL die out.
Billionaires WILL suffer consequences.
God IS real.
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>>730721647
This but with jeets
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>>730713229
>YOU MUST BUY NOW ANON FOMO FOMO FOMO!!!!!!
I will not. This is just what (((they))) want, to make you angry and afraid so you'll buy more while their prices are at an all time high.

I will NOT play into their hands, I'd rather stop playing Vidya altogether.
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>>730713229
Aren't they supposed to be bringing out ddr6 sometime this year
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>>730721834
Yes but not for gaymers.
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>>730720707
I already fucking hate how every new piece of home essential has to have both wifi and app integration. Just let me buy a shitbox fridge that keeps my beer cold!
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>>730713229
gos fucking damn it, should I buy the stocks while they haven't gone to the moon yet?
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>>730721870
that would cost $50 more because it's not producing data on you to sell, so people don't buy those
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>>730713553
AI isn't the problem. Computers are not the problem. Machines are not the problem. Corporations controlling scarcity and resources are the problem. Dumbfuck.
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>>730713953
Space was already out of the question when the (((bankers))) sicced their vassal states on Germany and its allies
When will you comprehend that we are on the Bad End route and trying to fix it is pointless?
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>>730721870
Sorry anon. You will buy the wifi fridge with Twitter on it and you will have to remember to download the updates for it so it doesn't turn off and spoil your food.
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>>730721647
>Man I pray for a mass weeb suicide event. I've had enough of you useless subhumans. Also my favorite game is Concord and my favorite show is Steven Trooniverse
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>>730721952
Yet companies have been doing that since the colonial age and only got commie-tier bad with AI. Curious.
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>>730721952
>AI isn't the problem
Considering the massive deluge of dogshit that's come from it, I'd say it's a major problem.
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>>730721721
>people in the 70s thought that the soviets were gonna win because america was going to shit
>2 decades later the soviet union no longer exists and america is in an unprecedented era of prosperity
everything will be fine because we are the protagonist of history
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>>730722008
>so it doesn't turn off and spoil your food
But I already rot my meat? No way would they reward normies with the best medicine possible.
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>>730714394
>I have no idea what’s going to happen to the population though
They're removing all other prospects except dying for (((their))) wars. Culling the population and mass blood sacrifice rituals at once.
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>>730722065
soviet union rebranded into european union, meanwhile the US is like 20% White
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>>730722065
protagonist powers stop working if you acknowledge them
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>>730717952
There's is quite a remarkable difference between regurgitating people's words knowingly and just happening to reach the same conclusions by yourself
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i already have 32gb of ram. i'm set.
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>>730713435
My pc is still running ddr3 :)
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I have 16 gigs of DDR4 and I probably won't be upgrading to a newer platform anytime soon. Should I buy a bunch of extra RAM sticks just to have backups if my current RAM goes kaputt when the prices have quadrupled
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>>730717952
>space
Not a thing anymore, all money goes to developing AI to have it make pretty but inaccurate pics of space instead.
This is the future you wanted
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>>730721495
Still useless?
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>>730722045
>>730722056
Well get to blowing up every data center and Altmann himself, as well as his Indian armies because thats the only way you're going to stop a conceptual force. That or make something better than LLMs.
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>>730721569
>still can't even <task were memory context is required>
Correct. Current LLMs are utter shit at remembering details and retaining important informations.
We just barely advanced with models requiring more memory since 2023, but it's just diminishing returns now. Either there's a paradigm shift, or we'll stagnate, risking the bubble to burst.
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>>730713229
>AI was supposed to save us and make things better and cheaper
>instead everything got worse and is more expensive while the only ones who benefit from it are Corporations and the Government

I am so tired anons
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AI must be doing some really cool things behind closed doors for everyone to be so desperate to win the AI race, cause as far as I can tell, the publicly available AIs don't seem to be doing anything more interesting than generating shitty porn, flooding youtube and twitter with slop and bots, and helping high schoolers write essays
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>>730722447
nope, it's literal cults
https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/rationalist-cults-of-silicon-valley
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>>730722403
I'll just wait until it rots by itself due to sheer incompetence like NFTs.
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>>730722447
sam altman's idea of how to make a profit on ai, as he told investors on a quarterly call, is to invent superhuman intelligence and then ask it how to make a profit

cargo culting a gold rush
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>>730722447
I just figured that everyone thinks that ai will someday become this incredibly useful moneymaker so they're putting all their eggs into the basket in hopes that they wont miss out. So far all there is to show for it is porn and George Floyd memes.
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>>730721870
wifi is always optional, you know that, right?
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>>730714824
>Pussya
el-oh-el
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>>730713972
anon, only those with the hardware capable can enjoy it. I have an RTX3070 and am living off 12B models, thankfully that big CUDA update made that even easier.
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>>730722523
at this point i fully believe we are on our way to the Terminator timeline because i wouldnt blame a superintelligent AI to just wipe us out for how retarded our so called leaders are
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>>730722603
Seriously, what's stopping investors in pouring money into degen-AI porn?
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>>730722447
They are just making glorified Big Data servers minus the guys who are sincerely into technomantic voodoo. Even then those guys are just pursuing the much gayer and more homoerotic techno-Satan or the Beast to borg people.
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>>730722689
Relax dude, the people responsible for this are definitely smart enough to code in benevolence so that our AI overlords don't send us to the Onions Green factory (and somehow won't be able to disable said benevolence)
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>>730722723
public outcry
elon musk was ok with letting grok generate nsfw until some people started bitching
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>>730722686
what update?

t. 3080Ti haver and genning on 12B models as well
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>>730722752
>the guys who are sincerely into technomantic voodoo. Even then those guys are just pursuing the much gayer and more homoerotic techno-Satan or the Beast to borg people.
Can you say that again but in normie English
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just buy DDR4 or DDR3
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>>730722829
there are a few doods developing AI for good and some ebil people developing AI for bad.
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>>730722829
What, never heard of the End of Days and how everyone will get chipped by Bill gates 6 million times?
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>>730722965
Performance aside, are PC part merchants nice enough to not increase the price of those too when 99.9999% of the people doesn't know what the 3 or the 4 or the 5 mean?
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>>730722970
I wouldn't call glorified graph making machines for old people to simplify trillions of people into easy to understand buzzwords at the bi-weekly board room meeting morally good.
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>>730723058
Hey I'm just the translator don't shoot me.
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>>730713229
I don't see why you'd need to go above DDR4.
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>>730722447
Or is just a scam like 90 % of things in this shitty World
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>>730722970
What do you think we are? Rocket scientists? I can't understand your fancy mumbo jumbo.
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>>730713435
>just get last gen RAM for more than the nominal price of DDR5, bro
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This literally reads like an AI-generated excuse to sell RAM

You people are cattle
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>>730722791
In December, CUDA 13.1. They have a new feature now for batch computations so your CPU threads don't bottleneck as much and flow better, if I understand correctly, and makes CPU-supplementation of generations much easier. I certainly feel it, hell I've even switched from 3 bit compression to a 4 on the athena 13b.gguf and I'm doing great, and the outputs on the old athena I ran are super quick.
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>>730723175
I doubt anyone ITT boughted and this has been going on for 3 months by now so you can't even cry FOMO, so why are you so angery
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>>730713435
I bought 64gb of DDR4 in 2024 for $90
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>>730713553
I've heard the news that the chips shortage are planned by at most 15%, and it isn't even started yet.
The price hike is completely unjustified FOMO jacked up by secondary dealers.
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>>730723295
based, I think mine was even cheaper, newegg sale last year.
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>see thread
>decide to check out what my cards that i bought for 80 eurodollars in 2024 are worth now
HOLY FUCK
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>>730723238
>3 bit compression to a 4 on the athena 13b.gguf
how's the quality tho? I'm running a 12B model (can't remember which, I'm not at home now) at q8 mostly and it's mid compared to the models on the horde.
I'd really like to go 24B at least, but I can't stand 2 t/s speed.
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>>730722642
Nta but it shouldn't be installed in a fridge in the first place. The only reason vendors are adding these "extra functions" is because they want you to have to come to them for repairs. Some vendors like Boch (and this is not only for kitchen appliances) force you to go specifically to them for repairs and they put into their tos that you can't take your appliances to "unauthorized vendors" for repair.
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>>730713996
They'll just shift to cloud gaming if the average person cannot afford any personal device with enough strength to run a game
It'll likely be dogshit for the consumers that play many games very often, as they can just crank up subscription prices and every game essentially adopts an mmo pay model
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Imagine if AI was legit instead of being 80% grift with boomers yelling "JUST LEARN AI YOU WILL BE LEFT BEHIND IFYOU DON'T" . All to inflate their retirement portfolio that they didn't start investing in until they were 50, not because AI is actually worthwhile. Like they literally induced brainfog on the population then want to sell us the so-called solution. We always get the gay version of the future
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>>730723449
My parameters might be a bigger constraint, do not take my word as gospel, but it seems to be mostly constructing better more sensical sentences, but its vocabulary and those common phrases that get repeated often haven't seem to have changed much, but that sounds about right since it's the same model just at a different compression.
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>>730714741
>cousins.
Clearly one is the uncle who is about to molest the other
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>>730723408
the 16 gigs of DDR4 I paid 57 bux for in 2022 is now 170 lmao
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>>730723457
I agree it's unnededed, but the TOS is nothing new, what company doesn't void your warranty if you don't send it to their specific friends duting the warranty period.
I mean, what else can they threathen you with? No, the popo won't come to your home because you broke a TOS. Not yet at least.
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>>730722438
>AI was supposed to save us and make things better and cheaper
are you an idiot, AI was never in any form ever supposed to save you, it was always a technology of control and suppression, no powerful technology is ever invented to be given away.
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>>730713229
>Samsung
are they trying ot start a fire?
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>>730713229
>new scrimblo paper dropped proving that you can do new nonsense with no real benefit
Very cool!
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>>730723649
It's not about voiding warranty. Boch literally put in killswitches in their washing machines that could only be disabled by their technicians.
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People always see the bad side on things huh
The AI demand will certainly push the development of new and better RAM models
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I would say we should do something but the FBI, CIA, and Mossad are always watching :(
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>>730723757
new? Sure, but pick 2
>new
>better
>cheaper
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so what's the right choice if you want to get ram right now: getting overpriced ddr5 or getting old ddr4?
even if the ai bubble bursts ram prices will never be the same so is there a reason in waiting even more?
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>>730723849
Price vs performance. Go with ddr4.
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>>730721740
Don't flatter yourself
The next 5 years of capacity of chip makers are already sold and at a better price than you could ever pay
All the stock that still exists is also no longer in the hands of their partners, it's all being scalped by resellers and private sales
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>>730723757
>push the development of new and better RAM models
lol, not for you. you don't get it at all, pc builders are no longer the source of revenue anyone cares about. Everyone's profits have jumped by 10x and that's from AI companies, AI companies only continue to operate if people pay a subscription to use compute, it is now in everyone's best interest to never let you build a powerful computer again.
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>>730723902
Then I'll just stop playing Vidya. It's not like any new game is worth playing anyways.
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>>730715883
If they waste money they will be sued by their shareholders
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>>730716358
>>730716536
Borderlands 4 didn't underperform by any proper metric. It was the most successful launch in the history of the franchise, and easily made it into the Platinum tier of Steam's top selling new releases for 2025. Reports on success don't even rely on bogus shit like "units sold" or "player counts," but instead doing massively well in sheer revenue. The only comment about ""underperforming"" in any sense just came from Take-Two saying "yeah it knocked it out of the park, we were just hoping for even more"
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>>730723991
It is not like you played any vidya in last 5 years anyway, you just come here to bitch and moan.
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>>730715228
they don't need your market right now and they know it will still be there whenever this retardation ends
nobody is building new fabs in the next 5 years
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>>730724060
Listen Mr Shekelblat, I'm not buying what you're selling.
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What steps are you taking to make sure the very last PC you will ever feasibly own lasts?
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>>730722447
5 years ago this "AI" couldn't do shit. Now it does stuff experts said wouldn't be possible for decades(like video generation). Improving year after year...
it's just going to stop improving now.
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>>730724037
Ok Randy
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>>730724145
Just regular maintenance. Dust your PC about once every 6 months, change thermal pads on your GPU as needed, add more thermal paste to your CPU when temps start to rise. Realistically the thing that will break on a semi-regilar schedule (10 years or so) is your PSU, and those are a dome a dozen.
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>>730713229
I am not going to engage in your panic purchases.
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>>730724037
>Reports on success don't even rely on bogus shit like "units sold" or "player counts
I wonder why randy?
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>>730717998
I bet you still think Bitcoin will come down lmao.

I missed the boat on Bitcoin, I'm NOT missing this.
>t. Bought 50 DDR5s a month ago with a loan.
I will be RICH
And I will be HA- LESS MISERABLE.
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>>730724145
I already have spares of the most expensive parts (RAM and GPU) and maintain the PC every month or so.
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>>730717952
>gorilla nigger
Still my favorite Terryism
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>>730724281
>change thermal pads on your GPU as needed
I'm too much of a pussy to do that. I'm always afraid I'll fuck something up.
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>>730724567
It's not often needed, but you can squeeze out a couple of extra years on the card by doing it.
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>>730723991
>Then I'll just stop playing Vidya
That's the goal, anon.
Remove all forms of entertainment and distraction
Leave only suicide, military service and breeding more taxpayers.
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>>730722407
>Current LLMs are utter shit at remembering details and retaining important informations
But /g/ told me I can have my own Lord of the Rings adventure with waifus that will span several years and remember everything perfectly years ago
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>>730724145
if we really reach a point where I can't build a new pc, I will just go innawoods and write poetry
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>>730722642
i went to buy a fridge for my MiL last weekend and that's literally not trye you lying piece of shit
especially with samsung fridges, there were some functionalities (like energy saving "ai" modes) where you HAD to have an app for it, otherwise it wouldn't work
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>>730724510
>I wonder why
Probably because of the fact that every fucking time (You) people hear "units sold" or "player counts" you cope with
>oh they're counting units bundled in with other shit/given away with GPUs
>oh they're counting anyone that connects to their servers, regardless of whether they refunded or borrowed a copy or whatever the fuck
so then it just comes down to raw revenue dollars, although (You) niggers certainly still try to say that "uhhhh blacktually, they're also counting copies bundled into consoles" even though everyone that does analytics already states that console bundle revenue is attributed to the console only.
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>>730724769
Or take up hunting. CEO/Banker season is all year round no limits in times like these since they are pests
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>>730713553
why would you post something so controversial yet so brave?
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>>730724781
/g/ is full of chink shills and sensationalists.
You can literally try LLMs yourself if you want.
Go download any 12B model or of you have the RAM and VRAM, even a 24B, set it up with KoboldCPP (piss easy to configure), and see for yourself after many messages it starts forgetting and creating its own details. Not even RAG and vectorization can save it.
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>>730724895
>there are optional features where you HAD to connect to wifi

I stand by my point.
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>>730721870
make your own fridge
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>>730713229
I have 16 gigs, which is more than enough for every game worth playing.
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I'm not buying shit, KYS shills
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>We are witnessing the end of PC gaming
B A S E D timeline
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Still not buying new RAM. Still comfortable sticking with my AM4 build with 32GB DDR4. In fact, I actually just dropped some dosh on ITX case/mobo/PSU so I could shove my PC into a smallboi case just for the sake of aesthetics.

Still going strong with my 5800x3d and 7900xtx. Not gonna have to upgrade for a good long time still (not that there will ever be a reason to ever upgrade when all new games are trash)
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>>730725379
This will fuck your ass too, tendie, your fisher price toy tablet needs RAM too
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>>730713229
Cool, cool... but where is AI creating the value to justify the hilariously huge investments all these suits and governments do? Like, what is the punchline here?



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