Hi /v/. Is the demons souls remake a good starting point for the souls series or should I play dark souls first? I did play a very small amount of elden ring years before but otherwise I know little about the series
dont play the remake. start with dark souls if you cant start with the original demon's souls.
If you have a PS3 or a powerful enough emulation capable PC, try to play the original demon's souls first. If you can't then the remake is fine too since its pretty much near 1:1 gameplay wise with the original
>>730714204It still bothers me that the remake will ostensibly replace the original, and people like OP, coming to the franchise will not realize why the remake was so offensive to people who were fans of the original.
>>730714204Dont listen to this guy>>730714272The remake is a great way to play it if youve never played it before. Dont overthink it.
>>730715626OP isn’t like that since he’s asking us and we just told him (including you)No I’m not OP but you should be a nicer person.
Remake is awesome. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't played it.
>>730715725Ok well this got sandwiched between two fucking faggots who make me look like a retard. Just fuck everything, OP is a nigger.
the remake is a beautiful game and runs really smooth. the original looks terrible and doesn't run smooth
>>730714204remake or not DeS is a very good place to start.
>the remake is better because it's shinier and has better graphics and it plays the same. dont even bother with the original it's old
>>730715837yes. correct
like almost every remake, it completely ignored the original art style, making it feel like a indian blizzard game instead of the sad and dark atmosphere of the original.
>>730715983>unc couldn't afford a PS5
>>730714204PS5 remake has better graphics at the cost of worse art.Emulating the PS3 version is generally the preferred way to play Demon's Souls nowadays.
>>730714204It’s a fine place to start.
>I like the original because graphics don't matter>but the remake is bad because the graphics are different
>>730716034Downloading a virus is never recommended
>>730714204In this orderDemons's Souls Dark Souls Dark Souls III Bloodborne Dark Souls 2 Elden Ring Sekiro (optional)
Imagine if you wanted to get into Elvis Presley, and instead of listening to Elvis, you instead started listening to some literal who faggot on American Idol singing Elvis songs, because the audio quality is higher and it has new and modern audio production.
remake is utter dogshit and anyone saying otherwise is undoubtedly a full-of-shit baitposter
>>730715983The remake's fluted set was so ugly. I really hated the art direction for the PS5 version.
>>730716062Art direction is the problem, not graphics
>>730716120art direction is just another way to say "I suck cock "
>>730714272Remake is better pretty every single way, original had certain charm back then but if you dont have nostalgy for it there is no need to play it.
Demon suzz
>never played the ps3 version>his first console was a ps5>his first video game was played on his moms ipadthis is the type of person who thinks the remake is better
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>Remake is better pretty every single way, original had certain charm back then but if you dont have nostalgy for it there is no need to play it.
>>730716140"art direction is just another way to say "I suck cock "" is just another way to say "I suck cock "
>>730716178imagine being so pathetic you let this spoil your day
>>730715983>i'm autistic and don't understand art direction choices
>>730716228name things which are worse in the remake , without saying some faggy "art directiojn"
>>730715626Original sucked anyway, it has random enemy design pissfilters its jankuttaa roll is bad etc
>>730716214this post makes me angry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK61dhXRZR4crazy how all the demake shit looks straight out of a MOBA
>>730716317crazy how all the original looks like it was done on a low spec console
>>730715626>they replaced piss filters with actual color, what a travesty
>>730715983>>730715626>>730716034>>730716101>>730716112>>730716306Found the people who couldn’t afford a ps5
>>730716268>name things which are worse in the remake without naming the thing which is worse in the remakei shan't be playing your silly game
>>730716243Yeah, it kinda ruined the game for me, fluted set is Demon's Souls to me. Seeing it on the cover is what got me to buy the game.
>>730716317nobody looks at that video and thinks the original looks better lol
>>730715837It plays better... controls are better graphics are better, areas are better
>>730714204Know that behind most bad opinions of this game is a jilted pcfag who is lashing out. Saying you hate a Souls game is like someone saying they hate pizza. Lying or purposefully going against the grain
>>730716285>Original sucked anyway, it has random enemy design pissfilters its jankuttaa roll is bad etcnow imagine playing demon's souls before anyone had ever heard about a souls like. you're playing a video game that basically invented it's own genre. the combat, the setting, the mechanics. everything is new to you and to everyone. you couldnt compare it to dark souls or bloodborne or elden ring because these games do not exist. you cannot judge demon's souls by comparing it to elden ring and all the improvements that happened over the 20 years of trial and error. one day you'll grow and realize this, when future zoomers will tell you that fortnite isnt even that good, because fortnite 3 improved on everything.
>>730716373Of course you can't play it. That's why you hate it. The moment it comes to PC you'll be jizzing yourself over it though
>>730716034Des art was never solid good, it was all over the place
>>730716431Demon's Souls is not a souls-like, it's an actual Souls game.
>>730716419>pcfag who is lashing >About a PS3 exclusive and its PS5 exclusive remakeRiiiight, I think he decoded it guys.
>>730716172go back
>>730716354>the original vision of bleak downtrodden european middle ages, deepy inspired by berserkVS>Blizzard Entertainment presents: Boletaria
>>730716447nigga i play the superior version on PC already LOL
>>730716503So you're all playing the PS3 version on a PS3 console?
>>730716460This is the truth. The original was a low budget PS3 game that reuses some assets from their older PS2 games. It looked great in some areas but mediocre in others. The actual travesty was Bluepoint's Shadow of the Colossus remake since the original was a carefully crafted piece of art
>>730716532what's superior about it?
>>730716101Compares Elvis to des, des is nothing special, you are just nostalgia tripping if it was your first souls game.
>>730716574the art direction.
>>730716574Looks better, more consistent artstyle, better art direction.
>>730716589>muh art directionso you can't actually think of anything which is better apart from some mystical undefined thing. got it
>Should i watch the original Godfather?>Nah, watch the Netflix remake. It has better picture and audio, and it's not 3 hours of boring shit. Dont listen to those boomers who say the godfather cant be a black woman
>>730714272listen to this guy, not the other two retards.dark souls 1 will feel stuck in the mud if you start with the the remake. omnidirectional rolling alone breaks the sense of mechanical progression you'd get from just playing them in release order.
nu-Fromfags are so hopelessly retarded that one has to wonder whether FS will ever shit out a good game again, given that they have to cater to the lowest common denominator now
>>730716613>it looks betterlol
>>730716620>so you can't actually think of anythingWell besides art direction, which he said in his post. Try to pay attention next time anon, this isn't hard.
does the demake even have sticky white stuff?
>>730716620>art direction is something undefinabledid got not grant you EYES? how are you even typing?
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT RUIN MY GAME>literally the same
>>730716663define what you mean? art direction is just your preference to something. It's a word used by faggots when they want to sound clever but without having to explain themselves
Alright, its settled.>>730716613 looks better than >>730716661Playing the original.
>>730716603the facial animations in this game are so embarrassingly bad
>>730716642so dumb looking. looks like she's got egg whites on her eyes instead of wax
>>730716661why did they turn boletaria into stormwind? why did they miss the point?
>>730716738it might do on your 1080p monitor.
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>>730716431Again you are nostalgy tripping, i playd dark souls as first souls game then des, and das was better every way, i own ps3 and original des and would never play it instead of remake that actually plays smoothly, but i do pick original ds fix prepare to die edition over remaster
>>730716771what?
>>730716626This but replace Godfather with 12 Angry Men, the TV adaptation mogs the original.
>>730716796nah
>>730716812The concept of art direction is lost on you, a castle is a castle is a castle to you, nevermind.
>>730714204Yes it's the game that started it all, and some mechanics might seem a little cumbersome if you're used to the bells and whistles of the newer titles. Playing Demons' before Dark is a grand old time, and of course the PS5 remake gfx are quite possibly the best in the genre (and it includes some minor gameplay improvements).
>>730716856When one is a PS3 game with PS3 textures and another is a PS5 game with much better textures and lighting. To hear someone cry about graphics on the remake is just obvious they're seething because they can't play it
fuck the da vinci slop. you should go see the 2022 version instead
Someone go take a picture of what this village in the background looks like on the remake. I'm interested in seeing what it looks like over there.
>>730714204It's the worst version of that game but I guess if that's all you can get and you have no standards, then sure?
>>730716527It's literally the same color grading as Fallout 3, it was the norm at the time. Unless Fallout 3 was also inspired by Middle Ages and Berserk? Fucking retard contrarian dumbfuck.
>>730714204No. It's like reading Plato as your first piece of philosophy. Is it good for starters? Yes, but nobody starts with Plato and he's boring as shit until you actually know what he's talking about years down the line.
>Originalhttps://youtu.be/dnEzkbdTa0I>Remakehttps://youtu.be/ccZtt7v5Z3cWho can seriously tell me that the remake is better?
>>730716613>consistent artstyle Lol no fucing retard, des never had that, you using enemy fro another game from lever where you can find aliens and grim reapers, retarded cunt why not use vallan of defilement or latria, those are only places that arent generic.
>>730716969>Unless Fallout 3 was also inspired by Middle Ages and Berserk?you're clueless.
>>730716656Blame elden ring fags for that.
>>730717042>getting this mad because the PS3 version looks betterlol, owned.
>>730715626notice you can see the castle tower behind the tower knight in the OG
What they did do Astraea's theme is a tragedyhow do you go from thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJUQg_U5HYto this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXrxWBVdunYrobbing newer players of one of the best moments in the series for bland forgettable orchestral trash
>>730717151old flamelurker: MMO raid bossnew flamelurker before changes: MMO raid bossnew flamelurker after the changes: MMO raid bosslike, do you just like the art concepts more because you know they were drawn by tiny japanese hands? because they still look like shit
>>730714204>is the remake made by a completely different company from all the other games a good starting pointNo you fucking retard. Go play the original or if you can't then go play Dark Souls 1.
>>730715626Translated for those who can't read moonrunes
>>730716914Again des isint magnificent piece of art, it has 2 places that is at most
>>730714204>whole thread is talking about graphics lolLook, Demon's Souls was basically a beta for Dark Souls. It has less of everything, and every area is a Mega Man like self-contained level, instead of being a part of an interconnected world. The bosses are lame and basically Zelda tier sans a couple exceptions. It has some odd mechanics too, e.g. the more you die, the HARDER the game gets. No checkpoints whatsoever, you restart the whole level when you die. It's an easy game but VERY punishing when you screw up, which is a very odd combo, and Dark Souls again fixed that by upping the base difficulty but tuning down the punishment.The PS5 version at least has some snazzy graphics as a bonus, but otherwise starting with Dark Souls will be a much more engaging experience. Or just go for Elden Ring like everyone else. I will not judge you. Even Dark Souls is very clunky by modern standards with sluggish movement and a lot of stamina management, which is at odds with action gameplay.
>>730717182if you asked me what game this was i would say it was some boss from the final fantasy mmorpg.
>>730717264Demon's Souls is better than Dark Souls.
>>730717069What's your point autismo? All these enemies and hazards are in the remake too, it's the same fucking game.
>>730717263>Again des isint magnificent piece of art, it has 2 places that is at mostit's just one of the most influential video games of the last 20 years
>>730714204>Is the demons souls remake a good starting point for the souls seriesNo. It's a butchered Westoid DE-make, that ruins both the gameplay AND the art-style of the game. As in the whole experience.Either emulate the PS3 original DeS, which is still the king, or the OG version of DaS.You can ignore all the Bluepoint shills and Piss5 tribalists defending the de-make.Also, ER is one of the most overrated trash games in existence.
>>730717182like this?
>>730717294Only on planet retard.
>>730717324>ER is trashconfirmed no taste.
>>730717324>that ruins both the gameplayIt doesn't. Gameplay is a straight upgrade with 60fps, omnidirectional rolling and other QOL
>>730717348AKA Earth
>>730716856Its grapihic limits you retard, drawdistance and pissfilter dosent ad artistic value other than in this cutscene even its le withered and brutalism
>>730717324>shitty reshade screenshot>le better than everything0/10 bait
demake is like an ugly bridesmaid, it only makes the original look betterbut a moment of silence for any ignorant brats that get bought a no-games machine and the demake as their first souls experience
Everyone who played the original first will tell you that the original is better.Nobody who prefers the remake played the original when it came out. They're defending their stance simply because in their mind, the criticism is saying that the game they played was bad. They're not even arguing against the thing that the original enjoyers are saying. This should be everything anyone needs to know.
>>730717151Of course trannies were behind the demake
>>730717439I played the original when it first released. The remake is better.
>>730717328It looks so bad, like yeah its got more details and clutter but they style is all wrong, it looks like palace now instead of a fortification.
>>730717151Des dont look good retard its in your head, bloodborne looks good
>>730717460i dont know why you're lying
>>730717480You will complain because that's all you know. If the graphics were identical but higher res and the gameplay had zero changes. You'd complain it wasn't different enough and a missed opportunity to fix the PS3 game. You're just another insufferable internet whiner
>>730717182>>730717480I don't even know what I'm looking at, it doesn't look like what's in >>730715626 why are there gigantic crags besides...is that meant to be the tower?
>>730714378>>730717389>the remake is fine too since its pretty much near 1:1 gameplay wiseIt is not:https://youtu.be/Ze2aSUJmh5s?si=XyqzEzwfi67c-jj0And the already mentioned artistic fuck ups and complete misinterpretations of the OG devs' intentions is insulting on their own:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lx0CRVVvV8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e19OMrxV0m0>60fps Not a gameplay aspect on its own.>omni rollingNOT an improvement.It is exactly the nonstop rollan that RUINED the Souls franchise, and turned it into a "Simon Says" slop in the end.In the OG DeS, you are not forced to master some split second dodge shit. You got fucktons of options to approach every situation, like a proper dungeon crawling RPG.The generic ER toddler for example cannot fathom just WALKING around enemies to avoid their attacks and to position themselves for powerful attacks.>>730717460I literally IMPORTED the game before it was released in the West. The DEmake misses the point, altogether.
>As the first castle map to lie at the core of a Souls setting, Boletaria could have easily been made just a generic medieval European-style kingdom. Instead, it became a deconstruction of that romantic image, setting the brutal tone for game Director Hidetaka Miyazaki’s first fantasy title. In fact, in terms of pure attention to detail in its worldbuilding, this area wouldn’t be surpassed until Lothric in Dark Souls III, which unsurprisingly drew heavy inspiration from Boletaria. This is in large part due to the synergy between the stories of the castle and its characters. The kingdom was as much shaped by its people as they shaped by it, creating a particularly organic narrative to form the foundation for the game’s themes. While the linear map may not be the most memorable part of Demon’s Souls, it is the crux from which all future Souls titles ultimately trace their start.Meanwhile, Boletaria in the remake:
>>730717594>I literally IMPORTED the game before it was released in the West.wow so did I. So fucking what?
>>730717294Maybe remake some ways, original not st all
>>730717613I don't think your image looks anything like this>>730716661
>>730717460Link us to your PSN account and show us your trophy then.
>>730717594>I literally IMPORTED the game before it was released in the West. The DEmake misses the point, altogether.based old friend, i was also one of the first importers from korea. one of my best video game experiences, importing playing this amazing weird game nobody had ever heard of before after reading about it on /v/.
>>730717654what website?
I never played the original version, but I played the remake and loved it. I saw a comparison online that nips don't understand Western castle architecture at all, which is why so many of the locations in the original were so poorly designed.
>>730714204Do not ever touch the demake of this masterpiece.
>>730717684https://psnprofiles.com/
>>730717313It has some good stuff couple good bosses, lot of bad bosses, couple good enemy design, then generic shit like grim reapers, latria and valley are kino, rarely passeja by newer from games but thats it
>>730717246>how foolish to defy me!kek, thats exactly what he looks like, and its exactly why i hate his redesign as well as the entire remake
>>730717624>So fucking what?Meaning it's not an argument of any sort, and you're just an underage poser.>>730717642Again, the de-make is nothing more than a parody of all the worst tropes of MODERN Soulshit.The PS3 DeS is still the definitive Souls experience, where FROM's design peaked. It's tightly paced, very varied, and it does not fall into some OP meta trap.DaS is nothing more than a cheap asset flip in comparison. Not a bad game, but literally more of the same, which is why I dropped it early on day 1 and only beat years later.>>730717664I literally WROTE to Sony, and told them to release the game in Europe, hinting that they're sitting on a gold mine.Their reply was essentially a corporate version of "wink wink" emoji, with the official release being announced just a couple months later.
>>730717324Remake has way better gameplay tho,but er is trash yes
>The remake is TOTALLY way better bro!Reminder they unironically look at this absolute travesty and still think the crapmake is good.
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>>730717527Why this thread is full of retards who think no one ever played original des, i own both and played original 4 times and im not going to touch it again in a long time
>>730715626All things considered I'm still surprised that /v/ has posters that are clearly too dumb to emulate the game on the left. That's what I choose to believe when I see posts asking for ports of the Bluepoint demake.
>>730717760>You must be underage if you played Demon's Souls back in 2010. You really are a retard aren't you
flamelurker looks amazing in the remake
>>730717897notice it's the ones who haven't played both who keep chirping on about the original?
>>730716924Anyone got a picture of the Remake's Archstone? I wonder if its still a jade elephant looking creature.
>>730717687>I saw a comparison online that nips don't understand Western castle architecture at allMore like (You) don't understand castles at all, since (You) don't live in a country where they HAVE them.BP took defensive FORTRESSES, and turned them into over-chiselled French churches. With HL2 Cinematic Mod tier amounts of FERNS + MCU lighting everywhere.And don't get me started with the blatant DEI trash, with the body type A/B shit, endless helmetless negros in the promo material and in-world, and the completely ruined symbolism of key characters and settings.The OST is also generic as fuck asset store slop, while the voice acting is outright hilarious:https://files.catbox.moe/wts6o1.mp4>>730717783>Remake has way better gameplay tho,but er is trash yesLike I mentioned earlier, NO, it does not.The gameplay is completely changed, and turned into generic, SLOWER roll-slop:https://youtu.be/Ze2aSUJmh5s?si=XyqzEzwfi67c-jj0
>>730717439Only if des wad your first souls game you have this weird nostalgy trip for it, i played das first and des after that, das has solid art direction des dont so i might as well play remake over original
>>730717815Left>a completely broken person beyond belief, are they even human? Emaciated to the point where they are clsoer to skeleton than flesh and blood, skin is cracked like stone with the hue of a long dead corpse, he has almost no teeth leftRight>skin is in perfect condition with no blemishes>a perfect set of pearly white and clean teeth>eyes full of emotion and in perfect condition>black dude for some reason>looks healthy and full of lifeWhat were they thinking holy shit
>>730714204Don't listen to this guy >>730715717The demake is soulless amerimutt dogshit slop
>>730717975this one is crazy
>>730717594The remake isn't rollslop because like the original enemies and bosses don't have multi hit combos, massive tracking or move at the speed of light. Omnidirectional rolling doesn't ruin anything
>>730717924>look at Bluepoints references for the nuFlamelurker concept>they unironically included Blizzardcrapkekkypow
>>730717967>>730716924No one actually played the remake, so they'll not be able to take screenshots, they're just marketers.
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>>730717760Wow you are simply retard, das has actual art direction des has the asset flips from other games.
>>730718023>bro lets just turn this interesting beaked mindflayer design into the completely generic DnD version for no reason LOLBluepoint is without a doubt completely and utterly creatively bankrupt. They are not artists.
The purest example of the absolute obliteration of the spirit of Demon's Souls is the cat ring icon
>>730718023unsettling octopus man vs kubrick stare cthulhu
>>730717975Not those anons but do you think something got lost in the style because CRT tv's were still in use when OG Demon Souls came out and might have had the ambience and filter suited for the CRT filter possibly?
>>730718023Its a fucing mind flayer, its enemy ripped from another francise and dont have barely any originality in it, this is why des dont have good art direction
>>730718171cat ring is soul. but jesus christ, just compare those two hp bars.
>>730717975Living in a particular country doesn't make you an architecture expert, the comparison I saw seemed to be true because the guy used professional terminology and described in detail why nips don't understand jackshit about Western architecture.
>>730717760>>730718023Why didn't Bluepoint just use the original artwork as a basis for the new assets? Why did they feel the need to redesign everything? Why are their redesigns almost universally more generic than the original versions? The Bluepoint versions look like the kind of crap you see in Korean mobile games.
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>>730717760on top of being grotesque without dignity, he's also fucking frowning in the remake, letting us know he is very mean because i guess the original smiling like an absolute FREAK wasn't a big enough hint that this guy is a bad dude. the remake seriously sucks lol
>>730718338Is this a Baldur's Gate III screeshot?
>>730718119Its barely interesting or original because its riped off from dnd in a first place...
>>730718338they even over-designed the fucking bell
>>730718375>complaining about things you can't even see unless you pause the game and zoom in you are a next level moaning cunt
>>730718338>Lets inlay the bell with glowing green gems>Why?
>>730718287>Why didn't Bluepoint just use the original artwork as a basis for the new assetsBecause they're Westoid snobs.They LITERALLY told us in the Making Of video, that they practically took the guts of the original out, and then remade whatever they considered a better fit.Or, to put it in clear English:they used generic UE Asset Store bits and pieces, which is filled with Meta Humans and MCU-style slop, and just rolled with it.The original team was not consulted even once, and they were openly against the remake.
>>730718416magic bell dumb fuck
The remake is only good for the luck glitch.
>>730717760>don't rely on the gross factor to portray an undead dragon. cant you instead try to convey the deep sorrow of a magnificent beast doomed to a slow and possibly endless descent into ruinthis is such a perfect description of miyazaki's design, and it pin points what bluepoint couldnt understand when slopping together the remake
>>730718107Proved his point.
>>730718351Lol he has grin in remake but he also has expressions unlike in original, so you didint play it it seems
>>730718485literally took image of the game running right now so how is it proving his point?
>>730716262some retards phoning in their remaster who were not involved in the actual artistic development of the game dont have the right to change anything you mutt
>>730718480>>730718338Do they still have the ass tentacle in the remake? I always thought that was a funny detail.
>>730718287Because original art work mostly sucked, and these nostalgy tripping retards just cant see it, you can count good enemy designs in des with one hand
>>730718519You didn't take a picture of what he requested, you just posted another random shot from your marketing kit.
>>730718605no, looks like they removed it
>>730718532Des barely had artistic developement, it rips off astetta it rips of characters it uses Generic enemies that barely even fit.
>>730718658game is running via a capture card on my PC
art changes aside, the OG is worth playing because the gameplay is designed with intention. you're supposed to be a chunky clunky piece of shit dealing with a bunch of shit trying to kill you. changing the mechanics for the sake of fluid play ruins what I enjoy about demons souls. if I wanted a smoother experience, I'd play the later games that are designed around a smoother experience. but this way of thinking is lost on the average gamer, which is also why every game is designed around a handful of universal control schemes and are all samey garbage. it'd be like taking katamari and changing the tank controls to pure directional input.
>>730718730Ahh well, that's a shame.
Completed it for the 4th(?) time last month, for the first time with RPCS3 and it's still my favorite Souls game not counting Bloodborne. My only real issue is the lack of 120 fps support and no mods for 21:9 UI. I might make one myself later if and when I play the game for 5th time.
>>730718198>do you think something got lost in the style because CRT tv's were still in use when OG Demon Souls came out and might have had the ambience and filter suited for the CRT filter possibly?No, I do not. Period.I was already a young adult when PS3 arrived. It was THE first console I bought with my own money. Trying to play the "HD era" console games on a CRT was a nightmare. Things were simply too blurry and small to be readable. Which is why the very next day I bought the cheapest flat screen available, this 768p Phillips that actually had no HDMI port whatsoever - just SCART + DVI + VGA, and a HDMI-to-DVI adapter.DeS seriously looked fucking PHOTO REALISTIC when it arrived. Something about the lighting, the texture work and general craft of it all... it felt so tangible. Less phoned-in fantasy than the later installments.
>>730718961you've added reshade and altered the style from the OG, It looks like shit > PHOTO REALISTIClol no
>>730718806typed out by brown hands
>>730718112>das has actual art direction des has the asset flips from other games"The game that copypasted most of DeS assets has art direction while DeS is an asset flip" is certainly an opinion that you can read only on /v/. Or maybe twitter.
>>730718961that castle looks so boring. it should be covered in ornate marble details and fancy statues and colorful banners with arches and columns and way more detail. thank god those californians were able to redesign it correctly.
>>730718961Demon Souls wasn't too bad on CRT monitors back then, everything was proportionate. Other games like Way of the Samurai 3 however did have incredibly tiny text yeah.
>>730719209>that spiral on the slugHey, I get that reference!
>>730718998>you've added reshade and altered the style from the OGNo, I have not. And the emulated shot is not the point.I put hundreds of hours into the game on PS3. I have vivid recollection of just staring the landscapes and wall textures, being in awe in how good and indeed REAL things looked. Like someone had actually paid attention to how lights and materials work IRL, and replicated them brilliantly, capturing the somber mood the game had going on.But I know this is some complete Hebrew nonsense to zoomers who think that overdesigned, blurry shit we have today looks "more realistic" than, say, STALKER: SoC on DX9 mode.The downgrade from the PS3 OG to the Bluepoint demake is similar to the jump from DaS to DaS "HD" remasters, with a completely swapped art-design and mood further deviating from the source material
>>730719253My first experience with HD era console games was actually with the Dead Rising 1 on Xbox 360. The HUD and subtitles were barely readable even up close.Same later with the Nintendo Wii of all things, trying to play the SH Shattered Memories.Some games, like MGS4, fortunately allowed increasing the font and HUD size, but it looked a bit ridiculous at times too.
>>730718961Emulated des looks like shit play original
>>730719253Dead Rising is what made me buy a Sony KDL-52XBR2, I literally could not read the text in that game on my CRT.
>>730719253>>730719358All of this depends more on your CRT than the actual tech itself. A 480i CRT will obviously look like shit, but there were consumer CRT TVs and monitors that could do HD resolutions and would've looked fine.
>>730719297nta but holy shit are you delusional if you think DeS looked good at the time. DeS released in the same month as Killzone 2 and same year as Uncharted 2. DeS always looked bad and outdated and still looks like shit to this day, same with Dark Souls. It's one thing to defend the art direction which I do and I think the remake completely kills it but man Demon's Souls never looked good from a technical standpoint.
>>730719029White hands, and blue eyes you mutt, name 5 good enemy design that arent generic slop, i name one that might be the best one even its bit final fantasy style, 1 adjudicator, latria is good area but its also just carcosa so its also riped off.
>>730719447>A 480i CRT will obviously look like shit, but there were consumer CRT TVs and monitors that could do HD resolutions and would've looked fine.Anon CRT's don't actually have a native resolution
>>730714204Demon's Souls is an extremely atmospheric game. Demake throws all that away for HIRE THAT MAN design aiming to be another cheap blizzard bootleg with no regard for the original's context or anything at all. To give you an idea of how bad it gets, they just added one of the ending songs to an area. No, seriously, they just put it in there, making no sense at all and ruining the area in the process. Complete shit.
>>730719109Lol name couple and not generic soldiers, das is solid, enemies belong to the area, literally none of enemies except stingrays belong to shrine of storm
>>730716603reminds me of Oblivion remake, with all those overdone face expressions. It still looks horrifying, but all for the wrong reasons
>>730719498>nta but holy shit are you delusional if you think DeS looked good at the time.Not an argument, schizo.>Killzone 2 and same year as Uncharted 2.That are cartoonish, stylized AAA slop.DeS had this sharp and grounded look. No pointless color filters, no pointless chiselling. It was just right.>technical standpointIs a completely different subjectmatter altogether, toddler.Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are both still gorgeous as fuck games, and DeS indeed looked goddarn realistic.
>>730717324>Also, ER is one of the most overrated trash games in existence.
>>730716661PS3 original looks better.THAT shit looks over-chiselled, literally GCI greenscreened, like all modern MCU movies, with extreme color filters and unrealistic, flat lighting.The environments and characters are also completely butchered.
>>730720389You're not convincing anyone but yourself
>>730720417But the online consensus is that the remake is soulless
>>730720516 >online consensus by a handful of vocal third worlders who only have access to some emulated PS3 version
>>730714204The remake is disgustingly bad.
>>730716771>T-THEY TURNED MY CASTLE CITY… INTO A CASTLE CITY
>>730718198>Not those anons but do you think something got lost in the style because CRT tv's were still in use when OG Demon Souls came out and might have had the ambience and filter suited for the CRT filter possibly?No. What a retarded post.
>>730719431nigga think he smart
>>730717975Your brain has been pulped into a sludge pile of buzzwords and seething anger over a digital toy. I hope you’re doing okay, Anon.
>>730721187>digital toy>heh.. this guy cares way too much about the video game..posted on /v/ - video games discussion board
Sony bankrolled From and gave them studio support after they only made dogshit like King's Field for 20 years
>played original on CRTwhat? You didn't have an LCD TV in 2009-2012? lol
>>730720674By every Demon's Souls fan, you soulless shiteater
>>730721701So you've played the PS5 version?
>>730721428You can still care, just as I do about other games but they’re still just toys. You still have your old GI Joes so you don’t have to play with the new line if you don’t want to, but some of the other boys just happen to like them and the shiny new accessories they come with. It’s just not worth getting jimmy rustled enough over that you start pulling links to YouTube videos and spouting polspeak over. That sort of stress can kill a man young.
>>730721465otogi, lost kingdoms and armored core were all kino though lil zoom zoom
>>730718625>>730718806Your amerimutt demake will always be seen as utter dogshit
>if they used different textures the game would be betterlol
>>730721895I've tried to let as little of that dogshit demake into my eyes and ears as possible since I love Demon's Souls. Just looking at the demake redesigns is enough to make a man puke
>>730714204Ignore everyone who isn't telling you to emulate or get a cheap ps3
>>730722096of course you haven't. >You should listen to my opinion about the game I've never played lol retard
>>730716620Either god tier troll or genuine retard. If you're the former you got me anon
>>730722632answer the question then?
>>730722368You don't have to play it to see that the redesigns are shit, I own a PS5 and haven't bought it for that reason
>>730722719So someone who hasn't played the original who says it's shit should be listened to?
>>730722776I mean they're wrong but sure, the gameplay is identical
>>730722870but it has no weight. You're here announcing how bad it is based on a couple of images. That's the most retarded shit to do.
>>730722368You don't need to put a turd in your mouth to know it's bad. I've seen a bit of gameplay to know that Shartpoint missed even the simplest of details from the original like your character not making noise in Soul form. I've looked at the redesigns and they are the worst shit imagineable straight out of an indian sweatshop dev. I've listened to a few of the tracks (which I wish I could go back and unhear) to know they turned every single boss theme into the same generic epic orchestra shit and butchered the best tracks like both the credits themesThey raped all the voice acting as wellhttps://files.catbox.moe/wts6o1.mp4All the devs at Shartpoint should be fucking embarrassed to have shat out this demake
>>730722990>graphics aren't important>but I've seen the remake and I don't like the graphicswho knew so many souls fans could be this retarded?
>>730722942it's every npc and enemy not just a couple of images
>>730723213You've never played the game. Who cares what you think?
>>730716431>>730716175>>730715837>>730719297>>730721934>sour grapes jaded millenial seethelove to see it
>>730723087nta but investing so much in graphics to the point that it does a 180 and start going backwards (looking ugly) is a thing
>>730723258If i played it nothing would change, it plays exactly the same as the original
>>730723375>If I had played itBut you haven't played it. I might as well ask the woman next door for her opinion of it, or toss a coin for good/bad. You're just a mouth with a lot to say about something you can't even play.
>>730714204The remake is ass start with PS3 Demon's Souls or if you can't do that start with Dark Souls Prepare to Die edition as the Remaster on PC/PS4 is ass
>>730716613what settings do you have? I have the game at 4k but it doesn't look this clear
>>730723443I could, I own a PS5. I'd just rather play the original
>>730714204yeah its good.. it also bascially shows you everything that other souls games then just copy pasted for all time to this day... literally everything.. there is nothing new in dark souls and the other souls games lol
>>730714272>don't play the demon's souls demake, play the dark souls demaster insteadhow is it that the most influential games of the past 25 years are only available in botched form? if you didn't buy ptde back then, you're fucked unless you have a switch. the switch version has the ptde visuals, but the sound is compressed to shit, so it's still a downgrade.
>>730723637>I couldbut you haven't. >I prefer the graphics on the PS3 version>I don't have to play the game to know it's bad>Some piss filter art direction on some budget PS3 game is made out to be something specialIt's like a collection of the most retarded shit someone can say in a thread
>>730715983>demake's fat officialsmedia literacy status???
>>730723885I don't have to, it plays exactly the same. Except they slapped on an orange and green filter, Adjudicator has nipple rings, Stockpile Thomas looks like James Corden and Flamelurker looks like a warcraft boss
>>730724613>Except they slapped on an orange and green filternope. See you haven't played it. Your opinion is worthless.
