So... is Abbie hated just because she's buff, and not a model with A cup sized tits and a massive ass? If so, why are gamers so pathetic?
cuz she's fucking ugly and even if she's hot I'd still hate her because shes an unlikable character and I'd hate her even more because then coomer faggots will post her in offmodel DeviantArt porn and be like I FORGIVE HER FOR KILLIN JOEL
What game?
>>730715003tekken 8
>>730714673No she's hated because she's the catalyst of a poorly done 'revenge bad' story that could have been avoided if she just asked Joel why he killed her father after finding out he was the one to do it after he saved her life.There was zero reason for her to get her goon squad to drag him to an abandoned building and beat him to death with a golf club without knowing why, and when Ellie inevitably hunts her and her friends like the animals they are, the game constantly tried to say Abby is the good guy and that Ellie should have just let it go.
>>730714673Imagine giving a fuck
>>730714673>ugly>trannyNo one cares what you think. The only people who DO like this shit are ugly trannies. Welcome to reality.
>>730714673She's initially hated for killing Joel. Full stop. Everything else is just added fuel for retards to hate her. Personally, I liked her but I hate the game and the dog shit story. The gameplay is literally the only thing that somewhat saves it.
>>730714673She's ugly and disgusting and there is no place for that shit on the screen for character like thatAlso>assfaggotryCringeDeal with it
>>730715701She's not a tranny.
>>730714673Why are you mad over a tasteless movie "videogame"?
>>730717405He's a tranny*
>>730714673Never saw a buffy girl that had the body of a Ken doll.
It's funny because Abby is what /v/ would genuinely consider a "woman character done right" but because she isn't a tranime supermodel from a coomer game everyone hates her>is on a warpath to avenge her father>sacrifices her long-term health to get stronger through steroids...>...while also training hard in weapon use, survival and tactics>is self-reliable but also a team player that respects her friends and allies>isn't obnoxious whenever she talks to people>doesn't believe in feminism>is straight
>>730717787Nah, that's Lev
>>730714673If Laura voices it, I'm attracted to it. Simple as.
>>730718386They wanted to be cool and have a trans character but also wanted plausible deniability.
This movie game sucks balls but it would've made way more sense for Abbie to have been a dude. They didn't need to overdo it by making her roided out. Just make a dude out for revenge.
>>730714673Get new bait, this one is mouldy.
>>730718386dumb people hate her because she kills joel and makes them feel bad. they then didn't let themselves enjoy any abby sections because of it and called tlou2 a bad gamebasically tlou2 is a normie filter
>>730718524>source: someone on /v/ told me so
How would you kill Abby if you get the chance.
never played it but as i recall:Killed the prequel's main character with a golf clubthe girl protag seeks revenge but lets the buff girl go for some reason?which is after buff girl bit off two of her fingers preventing her from playing guitar?Also that one sex scene that no one asked for.
>>730715003The Last of Troons
post his butthole
>>730718686>tlou>normie filterPlease shut your unwashed ass up and sit down, snoy. The Last of Snoys is at the top of the list for "Best Games of All Time According to Normalfags+Journalists+Women+'Dad Gamers' Who Don't Even Play Video Games And Consider Gaming Embarassing"Kys
>>730714673She feels forced
>>730721026it's ok if you don't like the game because it made you feel sad
>>730718386>she isn't a tranime supermodel from a coomer gameEllie and Tess aren't supermodels from a tranime game and are very liked characters.
>>730714673Massive ass? Substantiate with pics please
>>730714673It's easy to hate fruity evil dudes, and the same applies to masculine women. All are gross and a bunch of freaks.
>>730714673yes sure we hate her for all of this. Now fuck off, shill
>>730721213No, it makes me sad when I have to deal with such low IQ takes like "this normalfag snoy series is a normie filter".
>>730714673The face doesn't even fit the body wtf is this
>>730714673No idea what you're on about, the gay sex scene was unnecessary. The character just looks really fucking fugly you'd think the devs masturbated exclusively to potatoes. Not people with potato faces, just potatoes.Your game will never be mature for as long as it takes pages from Sonic Heroes with the unnecessary homing attacks and hand holding.
>Neil Cuckmann self insert fucking the "IT'S MAAAM" creatureStill can't believe that some people see this game as something great.
>>730718386I hate her because her story doesn't go anywhere and she gets everyone killed
>>730714673She's ugly, has no charisma, and is overall just sort of a dickhead that never really learns anything. She's unpleasant to watch and learn about, every instance of camaraderie or other likeable characteristic is so obviously, desperately telegraphed to garner audience sympathy that it feels fake and hokey.There's been crueler characters that people have liked, either because their personality is fun or they're hot. There's been uglier characters that people have liked because they're kind or interesting. There's been bland characters that people have liked because they're hot or dynamic. Abbie is none of these things, she's just a maladjusted frat boy that, ironically, never really learns anything about revenge throughout her story. To Abbie, TLoU2 is just a bizarre sequence of events that happen to her for no discernible reason.
>>730714673We get these though so I consider it a win
>>730720905As far as protags getting killed by sequel protags, Joel getting whacked is not nearly as bad as what happens to Alex Mercer in prototype 2 in or Trevor killing Johnny in gtav.
>>730714673No? She's hated because she's an unlikeable character who has a shitty revenge plot involving killing the beloved protagonist of the first game because he did the unspeakable act of trying to stop doctors from harvesting a little girl. And then the game justifies her actions with this shitty "Violence is le bad" messaging letting her off basically scott-free despite the entire game being about killing everyone else.When the show came out, gamers were upset that she WASN'T buff. Because at the very least, her huge body was realistic because of her obsession for revenge and that made her look like a formidable antagonist without you knowing a single thing about her.
Even if you ignore what happened with Joel, which itself is made worse as it happens right after Joel saves Abby and shows kindness to her yet gives her no pause for reconsideration, Abby is just simply not likeable. There's a point where Abby is beating Dina in front of Ellie, Ellie begs her to stop because Dina is pregnant, and Abby just seems to enjoy it more and says "good" before going to kill Dina. She only stops because Lev has to beg her to stop. Lev is the only thing likeable about Abby, and even then Lev is a boring nothing of a character whose only true highlight in the game was getting punched in the face.And yes, Ellie kills a pregnant woman, but the context is completely different. Ellie wanted to leave them both alive, but ended up in a wacky miscommunication where she has to use self-defence before getting stabbed herself, and doesn't even know the other woman is pregnant until it's too late. And when she finds out, she's horrified, starts throwing up, and has to be comforted by her friends.The wrong character learns to stop the circle of violence in the end, not that it would matter because Abby already achieved her goal and completed her part of the circle, albeit getting all her friends killed in the process.
>>730722607>>730723312NO SHUT UP I'M TRYING TO RAGE BAIT
>>730723312Yeah i would consider it to be a major failing of the game not being able to build a relationship with Abby and the player except in the most hamfisted way possible. (abby's dad saving the Zebra). Because every moment from then on Abby is the most backstabbing landmine 'Friend' to everyone she knows. As you said the only good part of Abby is Lev but the character is so poisoned with this lame outdated gender politics child marriage subplot stuff, it's uninteresting.
>>730715609It's a very well done story, no need to lash out you didn't get it
>>730714673>i don't hate her and I find muscular women really hotI guess you're right OP
Haha my one game normie friend is playing through this game cause of astroturfing.He liked the first game but he's already in his finding out phase and considers picking up another game.
>>730718386bro we're all over our "woman character done right" phases. It can't be done
I thought the story in the last of us 2 was okay. when I finally got around to play it myself last year I was a little shocked to see that this is what everyone was so asshurt over when the game originally came out. I expected something really good for the amount of outrage it caused
>>730718386>sacrifices her long-term health to get stronger through steroids...a lot of people deny that she would need steroids to look like that. but to be fair, a lot of people also think guys who are obviously on steroids just eat a lot of eggs too.
>>730714673Abbie is hated because her entire story is one long "I couldn't control myself" moment destroying everything for everyone but the game still tries to make you like her.
>>730714673She is ugly on the outside and inside.
>>730724331>makes claim>provides no reasoning or evidenceDismissed on grounds of terminal faggotry.
>>730722238>she's uglyShe's not as attractive as other notable female characters, that's about it>has no charismaOpinion>is overall just sort of a dickhead that never really learns anythingHalf the game is dedicated to her learning how to deal with the trauma and finding a new purpose in life. She literally learns very, very obvious things like "not all of my enemies are monsters" via Lev/Yara, something you apparently missed>She's unpleasant to watch and learn about, every instance of camaraderie or other likeable characteristic is so obviously, desperately telegraphed to garner audience sympathy that it feels fake and hokeyShe's rough around the edges and can be abrasive, both of which are explained by her focusing on her revenge but has a caring side that's revealed over time, especially once she starts to let go. She's also not very liked by some of her friends and the dynamic varies from person to person (Manny gets along with her best but he's 100% on board will revenge stuff, unlike other characters) so some scenes are purposely awkward or filled with tension>There's been crueler charactersWhat she's done to Joel wasn't right or justified but isn't surprising or pointlessly cruel for someone with enough empathy to see things from a different PoV, or not obtuse enough to declare Joel a saint who never did anything wrong>There's been uglier charactersShe's designed like that on purpose, partially to make it easier for people to hate. ND might've overdone it but maybe it's just /v/ that's filled with superficial cretins>There's been bland characters etc.Honestly your entire tirade feels forced, like you've seen someone present "arguments" and now you're pretending to do the same. Abby's not cruel for the sake of it, she's unattractive for a purpose (with in-game justification) and she's anything but uninteresting
>>730725169You haven't made any claim yourself, so why are you expecting me to do the same? In fact you've already shown you didn't understand the story when you wrote "revenge bad", because it very fucking much isn't that. Frankly, you don't understand other human beings if you write retarded shit like>story that could have been avoided if she just asked Joel why he killed her father after finding out he was the one to do it after he saved her life
>>730718386>woman character done right
>>730725357>Ellie lets Abby live>it very fucking much isn't thatuh huh..
>>730725357dont you think it's just a little contrived to make the evil doctor, who was evil, have a daughter who would somehow not just have the absolute will to kill one man for years but also brutally kill him in front of his (adopted) daughter, no questions asked?
TLOU2 is naughty dog’s best game since 2003.Only turbo brainlets would prefer TLOU1. Uncharted 2 is also acceptable answer. But TLOU2 has great gameplay, and misery-porn-kino story. TLOU1 actually is the so scripted and confined that the gameplay systems never get a chance to actually be used fully. 2 has tons of big sections where it’s nothing but combat encounters and lets you utilise all the systems however you want. And TLOU1’s story was the most predictable basic shit ever made, except the final 20 minutes, that actually was unique and unexpected.
