>1.16 billion dollar Tencent deal>billions of dollars in Canadian/French government bailouts>still sinking harder than the TitanicWhat can Ubisoft even do at this point? finally finish Beyond Good and Evil 2?
Buy the dip?
>>730718449In what universe could Ubisoft attempt a successful comeback? They're known for churning out yearly slop, it's so over.
You know, it's not that I like ubisoft but Sony's is also at an all time low.
>>730718538There is a possibility of a EU bailout because Ubishit is classified as a tech company.
I still don't understand why Canada invests in this European company
Somehow they will still survive and continue to pump out woke slop.
>>730717571Leave Ubisoft to me.
>>730717571Try making games that aren't political messages first?Try making games people want without NFT or Metaverse bullshit?
>>730718449retards said the same thing at 30, 20 and 10 lolmeanwhile the sp500 is doing ATH daily, and ubisoft just keeps bleeding eternallyin 1998 it was worth 7.45 LOL
>>730717571its time for us to save them
>>730717571They could try making an Assassin's Creed set in Japan like everyone has been wanti- oh...
>>730718896Why would we buy a sinking ship? Also most of our investment in jap companies isn't good if we don't force them to remove woke feminist shit, negros and LGBT trash. Fanservice should increase and sexy young girls sell. FF7R should've had sexier Tifa not censored one also Capcom games look too gay need to fix Capcom and Square Enix and remove censorship. I'm playign FFXVI and all I see is men ass while they're scared to show females. Good games that sold well like Nier have no new titles but Forspoken get funded. Dragon Quest is censored etc they need to be fixed for money making not ideology selling.
>>730718561Sony is low but Ubisoft basically eroded literally all of their gains since the 2010'sthey are almost worth as much as they were BEFORE they started maiking Asscreed and Farcry
>>730718449Lolno their ROC is way in the fucking red. Whenever you wanna buy the dip you always look at their yearly rate of change. If it's negative you NEVER buy the dip.
>>730719537>since the 2010's>they are almost worth as much as they were BEFORE they started maiking Asscreed and Farcry
>>730718449Only when its below zero
>>730719479You wouldn't fix any of those things, don't kid yourself Ali Baba. Arabs serve their own purposes only as do the chinese, the russians and the mutts.
>>730718449I did that when it was at 8€ for months...
>>730720040>he actually bought the dip Lmao retard
>>730719725what in the fuck happened in 2018/19?
>>730717571Good they make DEI troonslop any way.
>>730720020I didn't say we will fix. SNK seems got worse with censor even when they promised they won't. Stellar Blade with the cuck kim tea also got worse with censor but he is making money at least. I'm just saying if they will invest they should do what market wants not politics and censor. There are things that sold well but no sequels etc.
>>730717571>Didn't kill myself long enough to get a cute chud gf and watch the AAA game crash
>>730720131don't look up bitcoin
>>730717571Top shit ngl.
>>730717571clear short stockAPE IN BOIS!
>>730718538But churning out yearly slop is what made them so successful in the first place. I guess the general audience finally got sick of playing Assassin's Creed for the umpteenth time.
>>730720040>He boughted
>>730717571AC Japan will fix it, make them trillions and 100x the stock
>>730717571I don't know maybe make a game that isn't lame and gay.
>>730718656French dont give a fuck. They didnt bailed out Renault for fucks sake anon and considering a fact that majority of Ubisofts assets arent in France its over for Guilemot manlet bros lmao.
>>730718449They have nothing, upcoming games are bad and future ones will take years to finish. There is no gain or profit.
>>730717571I remember so many ubisoft related threads with shills desperately trying to deflect any criticism and saying that asscreed shadows will be a successTurns out firing all your "problematic" talent and hiring literal pajeets to shill your product on /v/ isn't the golden formula for a good game
>>730720316How get chud gf?
>>730720971Czech and Polish women are all racist, being based is part of their culture
>>730717571I am glad I sold my little dip stocks way back then.
>>730720774Ubisoft used to be so fucking good. My favorite devs at one point. What happened?
>>730718449Buy everything, anon. Use all your saving.
>>730718759lolMaybe 10 years ago it'd work, but nowadays nobody cares.Ancel's gone, Soliani's gone, nobody in Ubisoft cares about it (outside maybe some random small team of devs who'd instantly get dissolved once nu-Rayman doesn't sell 7m copies). They talk about remake and shit but at this point they have much bigger issues on hands than pleasing remaining 17 Rayman fans with a remake, remaster or a new game.You'll get another Rabbids game and you'll like it.
>>730718449Should /v/ buy Ubisoft action to become main shareholder ?
>>730717571>UBISOFT STOCK HITS ALL TIME LOWThe perfect time to say goodbyeWaitStill true
>>730720040
>>730718684Am I supposed to be angry at this?
>>730718449It's going to moon, wagmi
>>730718538All they had to do was make AC: Ninja(Japanese MC) and Star Wars: Asscreed Edition: no brown hag edition.This was completely avoidable.
>>730721494>It's going to moonTaking the long way through China?
>>730717571They've been one of the shameless vanguards for every terrible trend in gaming since the late 00s. No respect for their customers. Their flagship franchise is "white culture bad" commie bullshit, and it's fitting that they've been saddled with employees who can't get the job done.RIP bozo
>>730718660Because Canada wishes it was europe's hat instead of america's hat.
>>7307186601. It was not a bad idea because video games make a lot of money so it was a safe investment.2. Canada is also willing to sell out everything for the sake of woke.From the government's perspective it has always been a win/win even though they no longer make any money.
>>730718896They already got EA and it's doing much better than Ubislop.
>>730721269A number of reasons. Ancel taking a step back. Ubisoft Montreal being turned into the AC/Far Cry studio. Cutting Red Storm funding and employees to less than 200. Because they helped Ubisoft Paris with Ghost Recon Future Soldier and it flopped. Constant shovelware so they wouldn't get bought out by mergers for majority of the 2010s.
>>730718660quebec literally made ubisoft what it is, the studio in france was only publishing garbage and making slop. Montreal because of all its tech workers was pumping out and creating all the IP's
>>730721190>tfw american so no eastern yuro gfIt's so over for me.
>>730720634As someone who held Ubisoft open-world Games very dearly (my grandmother bought many from the local store for 20€ whenever I visited her), this is not even about repetition anymore. All of their major Open-world franchises have been worse than their previous installments in every aspect. If they had maintained their (objectively) mediocre standards, they'd still make bank, but they replaced their old teams with retarded women and jeets who cannot even properly maintain the old scripts carried over from the decade-old predecessor games without making them worse. I do not even exaggerate when I say they downgraded the already weak AI in many franchises (Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed and Far Cry especially).
>>730721954Can you blame them? France is not what it used to be.
>>730721190Not all of them. I see you haven't been to Prague or Brno for a long time.>>730721914We don't consider ourselves as eastern euros tbqh.
>>730722017>consider ourselves as eastern eurossince you're a checkmark I guess that makes you off brand German and therefore central euro
>>730721498I'm not saying that appealing protagonists aren't vital, but Star Wars Outlaws would have had terrible effeminate writing with an aversion towards accountability for the protagonist even without the ugly lead, it would have been glitchy even if they'd gotten a great writer, and it would have looked boring even with the glitches fixed. All of these problems are interlinked. It speaks to a team that isn't really invested in delivering an amazing game for gamers. It's a corporate product with (((the message))). I'll bet that there are people in leadership who've said things like->I never thought that I'd be working in videogames.-and who can't answer basic questions about videogames and think that Anakin blew up the Death Star.The one nice thing that I'll say about Star Wars Outlaws is that some of the environments are beautiful, but not all of them and they're wasted on the rest of the game.
>>730722414it still would have sold at least twice as much if it weren't blatantly woke
>>730722168I believe we have more German blood than eastern Germans on average.
>>730722547I think that more people would have gotten to the step where they look at the gameplay if the protagonist were hot, but I think that they would have found it boring.They probably did lose a million sales from that, though.
>>730717571Please don't tell me they end up selling Siege to a chink company.
>>730718660Montreal had lots of game studios 10 years ago.
>>730720131/biz/fag here>Central bank kept interest rates at 0% to boost the american economy after the crash of 2008-2012. >this lead to half a decade of mass speculation and consumerism that made industries grow at unsustainable rates(including the videogame industry)>In the short term new companies were created,jobs were created,stocks went up,etc...>The problem is, it also made inflation go up.>Inflation hurts the poor and middle class so bad for politics.>fed decides to increase interest rates to tame inflation>Everything is so leverage up that even the slight increase in interest rates poped the bubbles they've being inflating since 2012.This happened circa 2018 and the central bank walk back and reduced the interest rates. Then Covid happened and trump used infinite money printing to try to bailout the american economy from a recession which led to even worse inflation during the early years of the biden administration which lead to the fed increasing the interest rates again but this time they kept it up for years.This caused the recession that started around 2022. Mass layoffs everywhere(netflix,warner,microsoft,etc...).As for the videogame industry specifically. Many studios were created during that 2012-2018 period of low interest rates. Remembers the indie boom of the early PS4 era? that wasn't coincidental.Many of this studios don't have profitable games that people actually want to pay big bucks for it and survived of mass consumption during summer sales or deal like Gamepass. A lot of big corporation like ubisoft survived on cheap debt instead of having profits.Now that interest rates are up people are more frugal and not spenting as much on games.This hurts the indies because typically speaking, your priority is to buy GTA6 not some no name indie game at summer sale so you will save money for Rockstar.In the case of Big corps they can't get cheap debt anymore and have to downscale(aka mass layoffs).
>[TERRIBLE NEWS]
>>730718449SureTurn your 5.99 into 3.99 overnight
>>730721914>It's so over for me.But you also don't have to live in western Europe, so it's still a win.
>>730723170Its funny, its literally because of ubisoft that every other big dev started to open studios in montreal. Then server farms started opening(because of cheapest power in north america) then programing shit like this massive boost of tech workers in the 00's all because of ubisoft. They basically set off this massive bomb that created a whole industry in the city by the mid 10's culture marxism and non-quebecois workers started flooding in and poof shit went from amazing work force to FIRE EVERYONE WITH TALENT VISA ABUSE HIRE THE WORST OF THE WORST at least there is barely any jeets here. They tried dumping 300k during covid 90% left within 2 years because of racism and pure hatred towards brown people. Quebec will not became france no matter how many arabs/niggers/jeets the federal government dumps here.
>>730724280This.
>>730724779Yeah, I suppose that's a positive.
>>730717571>What can Ubisoft even do at this point?liquidateDO IT
>>730724207Actually pretty useful insight, thanks for the info
>>730724207>Now that interest rates are up people are more frugal and not spenting as much on gamesretard
>>730718449Be prepared to lose your life savings.
>>730724207Inflation is caused by useless spending, not low interest. Think of society's wealth as a bar and each unit of currency as a little rectangular unit on that bar. If spending is outpacing actual productivity, the bar gets smaller, and each unit is worth less. If you increase the number of units (print money), each unit is also worth less, because the bar hasn't grown and each unit now represents a smaller portion of the bar. That's inflation. The low interest might be a mechanism for encouraging reckless spending, but I think that the more important mechanism to focus on is the one that allows the reckless (let's be nice for now and use that word) lending, which is high taxation, since it ultimately gets laundered to the financial institutions. Basically, the money laundering scheme that is our out-of-control pork is to blame for most of our problems. There's some demystification.Indies are doing great. Big indie hits are coming out fairly regularly. And I'd say why buy $70 AAA slop when you can get 300+ hours of distilled gameplay for $30? There's just more of them than ever, so it's difficult for your pixel art platformer about your depression from your breakup to stand out than it was fifteen years ago. Which games are succeeding and failing doesn't have a lot to do with the wider economy; entertainment historically thrives during economic downturns, and it's thriving right now. Just not for the people that game journos like, which is why they try to present it as a general downturn rather than an isolated self-inflicted collapse.
>>730717571did the canadian checks run out?they only survived on taxpayer dime.
It's absolutely incredible that they somehow managed to lose over 90% of their worth in such a short time. How do you even manage that? I thought all the normies were gonna buy Outlaws and Shadows and it was only 4chuds that wouldn't buy the game?
>>730717571what's funny is their IP and the code both are not worth anything so who will even buy the company? No one. It's just gonna die. There's not even any resource value like you would have with a railroad company or steel plants or something. Just nothing.
>>730727773Ubisoft is retarded and made sloppy games while insulting the people who buy their games, it was bound to happen
>>730727604>profitDumb measure, the goal of a company is to keep existing.>subsidiesProbably tax refunds so the taxpayer isn't paying anything.Even then the government earns taxes on income from each ubisoft employee.
>>730717571>UbisoftJust fucking die already.
>>730717571And people said Yasuke wasn't a real assassin
>>730728279ThisBetter companies died over lessI dont need to watch Ubisoft slowly colapsing into nothing, just go out with a bang
>>730721319Rayman is how they became Ubisoft in the first place. They need to pay respects and realize "hey, maybe we can sell multiple small games for a good profit instead of pouring a gajillion dollars into one AAA shitpile"
>>730717571Fully deserved. Shame it's not happened to EA and Microsoft desu
I bought the dip yesterday. It feels like its one of those companies that will get bailed out by their government sooner or later, if not Im out a few hundred dollarydoos, no big deal.Last time I encountered something like this some guy on /biz/ was posting about some argie oil company that was 4 bucks per share and dead in the water for years and was now 50 bucks
go extinct alreadyboomer company that produces garbage
>>730718449go ahead lol
>fc2 remastered never everlife is shit
>>730717571OH NOAnyhow...
>>730717571RIP Bozo you won't be missed
>>730718449why exactly do you attempt to help your enemy when they are dying? I mean sure, go do it and bet everything.
>>730720719No one tell him
>>730718538Actually they might as they "seem" to have understand that it's better for them to separate their studios as more or less independent creative structure than to use their worldwide workforce around the clock to push the same uninspired slopes every year.But, well, Ubi have to ubi somehow so I'm not that confident about their restructuring.
>>730717571noooo my anno games
>>730721269They found a game formula that worked. Open world, lots of side content, all that shit. Then they just kept making the same game over and over and over and over again, people got sick and tired of it but Ubisoft no longer knows how to make anything else.There's also an element of arrogance and too big to fail that means they don't mind huge amounts of cash they don't have on failed projects.
>>730728621They kind of know this but sadly those titles don't bring the bucks they need or require by shareholders by them trading on the market.They need to let some of their slope IPs sleep a bit and let part of their studios be wild and creative again, like a deluxe AA+ publisher instead of chasing an elusive AAAA nobody want.
>>730735082Hopefully they can be free from Ubisoft and then I can actually buy them.
AhemAssassin's Creed KartWith Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell as a guest character for the uncs (I nearly typed Tom Clancy lol)
>>730721954The industry, from Bethesda to Ubisoft, is creatively banqueroute.Blame capitalism that try to normalize and rationalize anything for a "safe" cash brag that can't never keep on in a creative industry. Fucking hubris
So what do you even invest in
>>730735475Passing the losses off to the taxpayers through tax laundering, using regulation to take cuts out of people's paychecks (e.g. 401ks), and using government contracts to force the rest of the economy into their ecosystem is how the hedge funds survive all of these bad investments, though. They're essentially bailed out in perpetuity by socialism.If taxes, spending, and regulation were low, they'd be fucked. That's why all of their propaganda tries to portray true small government people as crazy hicks.
>>730717571That's still 5.99 EUR too much.
>>730718561Wat? What's timescale for all time?They are 100x better than 2012 THE all time low.Technically Ubisoft isn't on an all time low either, but they are inches away.
>>730721869The studio in Montpelier made Rayman, you faggot.
>>730720821>French dont give a fuck. They didnt bailed out Renault for fucks sakeI wasn't aware of their game. Sorry, Frenchbros.
>>730727358>Inflation is caused by useless spending, not low interestand where do people get all that money for useless spending from, maybe a bank..?
>>730721494>wagmSell signal.
>>730717571It couldn't have happened to a better company. Fuck Ubisoft and their government-funded kusoge
>>730724942>there is barely any jeets hereOh boy do you live in Montreal? Go to Park Ex you will see nothing but jeets, they live in packs of 10 in small duplexes and there are thousands
>>730737006Square enix is next.
>>730718449As tempting as it looks when you see its historical price it would likely not end well. This company is never going to turn around and only bankruptcy awaits.
>>730717571Good
>>730727604How many crooked as fuck and corrupt organizations are sucking taxpayer dollars out of people today holy shit.You have pedophiles raping children on an island, and YOU paid for it all.Where the fuck is the outrage. Holy shit. Humans are cucks.
>>730724942>90% left within 2 years because of racism and pure hatred towards brown peopleI never tought Can*dians could be based.Altough your black metal is bredy gud I admit.
>>730718449
Unironically, what happens when even mass immigration doesn't lead to higher debt to keep kicking the recession can down the road?What happens when GPD doesn't go up for a year or two?Do people even give a shit they're being humiliated and that they're essentially losing a class war they're not even aware is being waged on them?What happens? Lay it on me.
>>730717571The real unfortunate thing about this is that ubisoft moved all of their important IPs under a newly made subsidiary so that even if the company itself implodes, their IPs are safe and they can continue making asscreed games and stuff. Which means they will basically never fully die and be foreced to sell their shit to other devs or pubs. They've been hemoragging money for the past decade with flop after flop and now that their debt is catching up to them they just threw their core brands into a lifeboat and set it sailing awayAs someone who used to like the old asscreeds, I see now that ubisoft has been a blight on the industry from the very beginning. This is because the founders themselves were never into games for the game's sake. It was never about making fun games. It was never about passion. It was purely, entirely buisness and greed. They saw a market they could enter and entered with the sole intent of milking it dry. Ubisoft was never good.
>>730720821wasn't that some political fuckery to stage a Nissan hostile takeover from the nips since that merger/joint-venture?
>>730728502WHY DIDN'T I COME BACK TO LIKE 50 (YOU)s
>>730735991>>730737006>>730738816kys
>>730717571I fear the chinks cant turn this train around, maybe they did buy the bag when it all goes down to nothing and the french pull their own rug. They should invite the frog in charge to some chink city and blow torch him like a dog, maybe the morale improves afterwards?
>>730718684>oranges start falling over before he hits themheh
>>730740702kek baggie
>>730717571Why didn't you short this shit ages ago, /v/ ? It's literally free money taken straight from the hands of bagholders.
>>730739381>their IPs are safe and they can continue it was sold to a third party retard. ubisoft isn't in control of them anymore.
>>730718449i wouldnt take this shit for free
>>730718759Do you understand how little Rayman would do for the company? Rayman Legends lifetime, which was the best selling Rayman game, is only 4.48 million. AC Mirage, a DLC-turned-retail-game, was 5 million in three weeks.
>>730741859I guarantee you they would be a lot better off if they made a lot more low budget titles that sold 4 mil over spending 20x times in order to chase after double the total sales.
>>730742590The lower budget titles only sell when they're also lower priced meaning overall they get less money from the sales than the expensive games. Go look at Prince of Persia for how that worked out. The Lost Crown was 1.3 million sales LTD. We also have no idea just how much something like Mirage cost because it reused a lot of stuff from Valhalla.
>>730720102>>730720679Shut Up, it was already after the Nigger bullshit in Japan. How the fuck was i supposed to know it Can get even worse than that? Seemed like rock bottom.
>>730717571So would could buy ubisoft?Where can I buy a large amount? I have 60,000 usd i can throw at it.
>>730721190>czech women are all racist >article written by a czech woman complaining about black faceYou are a retard. White women are nigger loving whores all around the world. That's why we need to kill them All
You be soft.
>>730742734cutting expenses and overhead is going to beat out chasing revenue 9 times out of 10, and there's no way the budget of AC:M was anywhere close to a rayman game when they've dumpstered the series for well over a decade now.
>>730717571I can smell a sale with deep discount on Ubislop
>>730742837Not as bad as this...
>>730742964Either Montreal, Toronto or Paris stock exchange, one of these 3.
>>730721269You stopped being their audience for their PR. Ubisoft only sold smoke.
>>730742964google how to purchase stocks, and then look up ubisoft's company.
>>730743080True, but the issue here is that people don't want to buy their budget offerings at full price. Even something with Mario's name attached to it AND a good reputation like Mario + Rabbids that sold 10 million copies in its first game couldn't even get Sparks of Hope to sell more than a million copies until it heavily dropped in price and now it's 3 million.The budget games are things they have to equally gamble on as the more expensive stuff, but the people are coming to them for the expensive stuff. Simple examples: Steep and Riders Republic. I would classify those as around AA budget games and Steep supposedly only did 1 million while Riders Republic refused to even state sales, only "10 million players".
>the issue here is that people don't want to buy their budget offerings at full pricethat's kind of the whole point of not spending hundreds of millions of dollars on one project, you have more wiggle room in virtually everything regarding net profit.
>>730743871meant to reply to >>730743565 obviously.
>>730720634Their games were actually good once. I know it's hard to believe for a zoomer, but Ubisoft wasn't always known for low quality slop.
