>I NEED ITI NEED IT>I NEED ITI NEED IT>I NEED ITI NEED ITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GABEN GIVE IT TO ME NOW AND MY BODY IS ALL YOURS
>>730718218>mfw half life 3 comes out with the hardware
>>730718218>playstation analog layoutlmao
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>>730718463The difference is they've placed the sticks high enough to be usableXbox layout also makes using the dpad useless for emulation of older consoles
>>730718218This is the shittiest controller ever.not even nintendo could come up with this garbage.
>>730718218>inb4 they do another reservation system and I'll be waiting 12 months for the funny controller and VR headset
I just want a steam deck but smaller and for lighter games. That's all I want, I guess controller is cool too for PC or something else.
>>730718218release today at 7pm.
>>730718218I was in urgent need of a controller and I bought some 8bitDo shit for 20 bucks or so, it made me realize how overpriced controllers really are when I can get one that works just fine at this price range.
>>730718218why do they insist that people want to use thumbsticks?the pads completely succeeded the concept of a thumbstick on the previous one"hello i would like the least responsive and articulate input device possible"said nobody but the most babyduck of casual console users, which are not welcome on pc
>>730718218This is the only thing they're releasing that's going to be worth it and isn't a waste of their time.Gyro mouse control, touchpads, whatever stickdrift resistant sticks they're using, back buttons.>>730718463I'm hoping that they're easily fixable and by extension changeable.Third party Xbox layout faceplates could be very easy to swap over to.
>>730719359I wish
>>730719525what are you talking about?how is <pressure required> more comfortable than <no pressure required>?you can just glide your thumb, you don't need to flick, there's several modes
How is the dpad? Is it good for fighting games?
>>730719617Then use the touchpads instead of the sticks.They're usable in the way you're talking about so what's the complaint really?
>>730719641speaking for the steam-deck: the D-pad is good, but it's at an unusual angle so you'd probably have to re-learn / re-train everything
>>730719475Because the touchpads don't give good feedback for movement and some games can make use of 2 movement inputs.The dpad is honestly the more mystifying pick, since the gamepad has enough buttons for the button economy advantages to be kind of irrelevant when compared to the loss in precision. The pad gives you enough buttons to handle 2D movement and miscellaneous inputs without the dpad and for menuing mouse support is ultimately better than cycling through a grid.Even on the more janky first Steam Controller you could handle platformers without a real dpad.>>730719617Helps avoid misinputs from involuntary motion.>>730719641Dpads are never good for fighting games.
>>730719672you rest them on the pads and it's fine, you set a deadzone, the pads are smooth and metalwhat the fuck are you talking about?>>730719707my complaint is the positionwhy, would the primary input device, the successor to the vestigial thumb nubs for the baby duck crowd, be present so far away from the face button, d-pad, and primary position in general?it's a stupid design, the original controller mostly had it, except for having the thumbstick, which many of the prototype designs didn;t, but, babyduck crowd
>>730718218It pisses me off so bad how they've made the dpad have a glossy texture againfucking gross and disgusting and nasty aaaaaaaaaaaa
>be given multiple options on how you want to use the controller>some options work better than others depending on the context>this is somehow bad and they should release a controller with less optionsYou have a million options on the market go fucking buy something else
>>730720041>Because the touchpads don't give good feedback for movementit's plenty fine with haptics as you pass into another octant, the groove the left pad had was also good for orienting>Helps avoid misinputs from involuntary motion.a stick is exactly as prone to misinputs if you have a deadzone setif worried about it i don't know why we're having a discussion about "resting thumbs" on the pads in the first place, kind of a zero use case discussion when it comes to comfort
>>730719538>I'm hoping that they're easily fixable and by extension changeable.Based on the official page on Steam, they're both on a swappable daughterboard, so replacements will be easy. However, swapping it to an asym layout won't be doable without some major changes since they're both on the same board.
>>730719475Because last time they tried not adding a thumbstick on the right that shit bombed cause was unusable and no one wanted it lmao get real
>>730718218>baseding out over a controller
>>730718218Least homoerotic Valve fanboy
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>>730720275You look handsome
>>730720268no, let's make this is extremely clearit failed BECAUSE there was a stick, if it had a d-pad or face buttons
>>730720360post cut off since i removed too many insults, that's what i get for trying to be the bigger manyou can infer the rest of what i was about to say on your own though, it was pretty obvious
>>730718539>Xbox layout also makes using the dpad useless for emulation of older consolesHow so? I play all of my retro games with the xbox series controller and I think it's fine.
>>730720360Sure it did bud sure it did
>>730720418i mean the causation is not any clearit released with a stick on it, it bombed, babyducks didn't buy it because they're babyducks and pc users didn't like the compromisethe stick made it a product for nobodythere you go, the end
>>730718474Kek
>>730720194It's too crowded
>>730720495>let's make this extremely clear the reason is->actually it's not clear why-meds
>>730720495I'm sure their market research showed why It failed and what people wanted but you're free to make up your own fanfic
>>730718539They did not. It’s an optical illusion caused by the touch pads and baggy pants
>>730720252Without seeing the inside I don't know how hard it'll be but it should be doable if you know the basics and can solder.I'm sure that third parties will give it a try so I'll wait and see before I try butchering it up when it releases. See how cleanly they get it down.
>>730720569i guess you've bowed out, bye then>>730720621yeah it was the top gyro controller till inputlabs, but not because input labs had 1.75 sticks instead of 1
>>730720731>i guess you've bowed outBeen making fun of you for 3 posts get real bud
>>730720354thats you
>>730720115What exactly is this meant to achieve aside from putting both sticks in shitty, uncomfortable spots and ruining everything else too?
>>730720713This is from the official site on Steam. It would at least need custom boards for both sticks, and likely an entire custom motherboard too.
>>730720268That was largely patent trolls (scuf I think) suing them and forcing them to get rid of excess stock for cheap.
>>730718218I'm worried about the dpad. I really don't like the decks dpad.
>>730719475have you tried using the touch-pads on the deck? it's super unergonomic. hurts your thumbs to be in that position for more than 10 seconds unless you completely shift your grip further down on the handles, making the use of the buttons or trigger/bumpers more inconvenient.i've only ever used them for auxiliary functions, like quick-save and -load for emulators or a scrollwheel, while using gyro and joystick-mouse for "mouse-games"
>>730720275That looks like a brown version of the ramstein singer.
>>730721974nope, i haven'tonly used the original steam controllerdeck looks bad like sc2, it's a shame how uncomfortable both look for such terrible inputs like sticks being the primary focus now
I recently got the 'eck and while it's great the trackpads are shit and I fail to see why people rave about them. The haptic shit too was really annoying and had to turn it off.
>>730722241>the trackpads are shit and I fail to see why people rave about themThey have a big learning curve. After that, they're great and you don't need the right stick at all. Even if you don't want to dedicate the time to learn, they're great for touch menus.
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>>730718218So Valve chose the Xbox button layout over the SNES?Why did they even pick X-Y-A-B? They could literally do anything they wanted. The letters could spell out G-A-B-E but they aped the Xbox controller instead.For the rest of my fucking life I won't instinctively know where the "X" button is and I've accepted it.
>>730723172I read it as XY-BA instead of XY-AB, so Xbox layout is more reliable than the SNES one.
>>730720115How do faggots like this explain the right stick
>>730723172xbox controllers have always worked natively on windows while sony and nintendo willingly cucked themselves. this is why all PC games have xbox button prompts and only rarely let you choose sony/nintendo ones. it'd be dumb for valve to choose anything else as funny as that would've been.
>>730723172the xbox layout(or i guess sega layout, really) is the default pc layout so why would they copy the nintendo way of doing things?
>>730723172Sony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox >> NintendoNintendo fucked up hard by changing the position of the X button on the gamecube, so they're not even consistent with themselvesXbox's XY button placements make sense if you look at it as a graphSony's are objectively the best layout solely because the buttons are unique. There's no PRESS A bullshit that makes you wonder which fucking button you're supposed to press. Even X which is the only shared button, is still blue coded most of the time so you remember instinctively that you're reading a PS input. The triggers being numbered is also objectively better, I have no idea which one is even the LB or LT in the shitendo and xbox layoutt. Only use xbox controllers. On my hacked switch and PC I always install dualshock layout mods whenever they are available
>>730723172If you legit can't blindly press X on any of the 3 most common layouts you need to play more videogames
>>730722678only thing they're good for is binding them to the mouse in order to navigate the launcher of an older game, I dont think i've ever used them for anything else
>>730723513i personally have irrational hatred for the word 'bumper'. they're SHOULDER BUTTONS.
>>730723756>I dont think i've ever used them for anything elseThat doesn't mean they're bad. You just haven't used them.
>>730723314It's there simply because it has to be for some games. If you're planning on using it a lot, why even buy a Steam controller in the first place?
>>730720268It bombed because they slapped on the stick and face buttons without redoing the controller ergonomics, not having a right analog stick was completely irrelevant.It also took a while for the software to have all the kinks ironed out.
>>730723513>I have no idea which one is even the LB or LT in the shitendo and xbox layoutXbox Left Bumper (LB) Left Trigger (LT).Nintendo L (left shoulder button, since the SNES) ZL (Zalternate L :D Carry over for a similar button on the N64 and duplicated for each side)
>>730725605>Xbox Left Bumper (LB)I thought the B meant Back. God bless the dualshock button prompts mods, I'd be misclicking all the fucking time
