it just doesn't feel retro
this is me in 2016
>>730725363Because it's not you fucking retard
>>730725363lol not now boomer
>>730725412PS2 is retro 10 years later?
>>730725363Retro is not based on how old the game is, its how its designed.Retro games are pixel graphics, analogue video out, and are difficult to play. Came with nice manuals to explain stuff to you instead of it all being ingame, and you could learn the secrets in Nintendo Power or equivalent.PSX is already not a hybrid between retro and modern, PS2 is modern no matter how you slice it. Game design has also not meaningfully changed, other than enshittification, since the PS2.
>>730725363>>730726152>>730725420Unc cope.
>>730725363>240p/480i for majority of games>Doesn't feel retroNigga. It has been retro for 15 years now. It is antiquated in every way. There are no good excuses. Even ps3 and 360 is fucking retro. Movies from 2005-2008 qualify as retro too. Deal with it.
If it uses hdmi as stock, it isnt retro. Simple as.
In the 1950s, the 1940s were considered retro.
>>730725363It does to me
>>730726562Just because you were born after this console was out doesn't mean the rest of the world was. PS2 is definitely a modern console, with all the halmarks of current consoles, OS, harddrive, online play, media player. 3D games, analogue controls (controller layout same as current) Same gameplay
>>730727016Nah, the 20s were retro.
How long has the phrase "looks like a PS2 game" been used as an insult for a modern game having bad graphics?
>>730726152>Came with nice manuals to explain stuff to you instead of it all being ingame, and you could learn the secrets in Nintendo Power or equivalent.But those still apply to the ps2. I disagree, design trends have changed enough for it to be consideres retro. Or are you going to tell me that a live service game from today has the same philosophy as a ps2 game. Even with MMORPGs and online games, these are clearly not the same.
>>730732245Since the 7th generation desu
Because it's not. Retro refers to early 2D and early 3D.
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>>730725363Retro does not mean old.
>>730725363PS3 is retro old man
>>730725363why are retards unwilling to accept that what is considered "retro" is always changing with the times? the 70's and 80's were retro in the 2000's, and the 90's and the 2000's are retro now
If you think this, you don't actually play games with any sort of regularity, and you're not even old enough to pretend to have a problem with this being a thing.
>>730725363Anything before the HD era is retro
>>730726152PS2 had only analogue video out.
>>730732245At least since shit like Postal 3, Ride to hell Retribution and that Fast and Furious game
>>730725420>26 year old console not retroit's beyond retro it belongs in a museum
>>730730072Here's something for you to think of.PS1 had all of those except for a hard drive.
>>730733882It's retro because the games made for it are anachronistic compared to how games now.The paradigm for which started in 8th gen
>>730732245I remember when the Duke Nukem Forever trailer released, someone pejoratively describing it as looking like an Xbox 360 launch title. We were at the tail end of 7th gen at this point. So it is not a particularly big time bias.
still no evidence posted proving ps2 is retro...
>>730734647If I wanted to, could I go down to Wal-mart and pick up a brand new PS2 and some games like I could a PS5 or Switch 2?
>>730734647Here, ps2 game manuals. Modern games don't come with those. Therefore, the ps2 is retro.
N64 had online capabilities so it's not retro.
>>730726152>word about the past is not about how old something isDip shit.
>>730735372We can go back further.
>>730734647Ultimately I do not believe PS2 is retro, what matters is there's two boards for me to discuss PS2 on here on 4chan. The retro games board which permits it alongside Xbox and Dreamcast and /v/, which allows it by encompassing all video game discussion.So I have two boards to spread my view on PS2 superiority on. That is all that matters.
>>730735576/ps2/ when?
>>730725363Because PS2 looking games still come out all the time and don't feel dated. No one considers them 'retro' because graphics of that level are fine outside of realism.
>>730735727Looks like a modern indie game with soft edged visuals, PS2 games are far more distinguished.
>>730735727That does not look like a PS2 game. PS3, sure, but not PS2.
>>730735727Here's what a real PS2 game looks like for comparison.
>>730735526We are not having this conversation where you're intentionally mixing up the concepts of retro, vintage and classic because you don't speak English.
>>730735576Based
>>730735727this looks like a dreamcast game>>730735975this looks like a gamecube gamei think of ratchet for ps2 scrimblos desuuuuuu
>>730725363>>730726562>>730733882Retro is a deliberate design decision made when the thing is being made, not some arbitrary time that must pass.There is no deliberate design decision that you could make that would pin a game to 6th gen. It would either be >clearly 5th gen>90s or early 2000s PC retro>Indistinguishable from a modern console game, except better and lower budget>>730732245Since the Gamecube.
>>730725363grampa, 2000 was 26 years ago.
>>7307322456th to 7th gen was the last time there was a significant upgrade in terms of graphics
I'd say early PS2 feels retro but late does not, the difference between the console at the start and the end was massive. DMC1 feels like a polished PS1 game while DMC3 with its fully mocapped cutscenes and gameplay polish feels like it could pass for a PS3 game if it was in HD
>>730736151>Since the Gamecube.Doesn't make sense, Gamecube games generally look worse!
>>7307253632026 just like the entire decade feels no different then the 2010sDoesn't even feel like a decade had past, technology and culture fucking stagnat it's hard to believe the technology of old becomes "retro" "vintage" "belongs in a le museum" when the world felt no different for a very long time
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>>730736307>feels like it could pass for a PS3 game if it was in HDDidn't it get remastered for Ps3?
>>730736838Yeah but it looked worse on ps3 because 7th gen consoles can't do transparency.
>>730736437Meanwhile in PS2.
>>730735836Right, PS2 games actually looked like this.
>>730736949>Retro graphics is when lower resolution
>>730737223Yes, that is part of it.
>>730725363>it just doesn't feel retro
>>730737153Even your emulated super sampled image shows a big difference between that and the generic indie #23463080085.The sprites.
>>730736096Dreamcast had so much SOVL, it's a shame he killed himself.
>>730736946>because 7th gen consoles can't do transparencyOf course they can. This had to with the retarded team doing the remaster making the hair texture a solid color
PS1 and N64 also barely feel retro to me.PS3/XBOX360 feel like current generation with 0 difference in feel or storytelling.
>>730737824It's a joke about how PS2 was better at doing transparencies than every other piece of graphics hardware until 20 years later
>>730736310>generally>the same five absolute dogshit western games posted 1 trillion times
