Does /v/ approve of "AI" yet?Can it code decently yet?I can art but I can't code for shit...
>>730725912You can get code of of it, and you can usually get it to run successfully with some iteration, but its incredibly difficult to vibe code specific things you want without breaking everything else unless you understand what its giving you.
Right?I mean, kffPffLike, i mean, y'knowWhat?Chut up
Code monkey here that is learning how to draw. It's over for me, isn't it?
>>730725912>slop developer says slop is good and intends to make more slopand this is news?
only trannies hate ai
>>730726020yea
>>730725912Don't think it's far enough yet to code whatever specific idea you had in your head by itself but it's a great learning tool for programming.
only trannies like ai
okay but do video games need dev teams of 1000 people?
Very organic posts pushing ai and taking out of context posts from twitter
>>730726170How else are they going to justify their $80 pricetag? You really believe that paying $90 for a game is enough to cover the costs of 1000 dev team?
>>730725912the only thing AI is good for is scraping the web for information and being used as a glorified google search ONLY once you've refined it's parametersand porn
>>730725912But what happens when the US and CN start using AI. How will they compete then?
>>730725912Pay some money and use Claude.
>>730726170E33 being made by 33 people and Halo 2 being made with 60 says no, no dev team needs to be 1000 people dev teams don't even need 100 people.
>hi, I'm a game developer! I can code, make art, and make music!
>>730725912My friend vibe codes for most of his job.He's literally a digital nomad stealing jobs from Americans.He also says only an idiot would vibe code without knowing what to look for because it's very easy for the AI to make small mistakes that have long term problems.
>>730725912well, sounds like games will be more cheaper now since they only have to pay one guy instead of 100. get ready for AAA games for under $20
>>730726170What was the last game with a legit 1000+ that wasn't inflated by stuff listing random executives who maybe signed one document and the Janitorial staff of the building. I'm genuinely asking.
>>730725912>1 person to do the work of 100 peopleWhy are AI niggers so fucking retarded.
I never really gave a shit, it's a tool.I am perfectly fine with a team of "1 guy in his bedroom" using everything at his disposal to make his dream project a reality.What bothers me about it is corpos using it to be even lazier without lowering any of their prices and uncreative AI bros using it to put Brad Pitt into Titanic 4 while undressing minors on the side.
>>730726479This except you dropped a zero in that pricetag. Reminder that AI does not work for free, you need to pay up for the water tax
>>730725912Whoever properly uses AI for game development will end up in a much better place. But properly, measure like "1 person does 100 jobs" are meaningless. But a more realistic scenario is very small teams with no major publisher backing making larger games. Imagine an indie team team of maybe 10 people making a game with the scope of Silent Hill 2. Basic meshes become faster, many types of textures can be made on demand (walls, etc). Concept art can be made way faster. Its really full of new possibilities as long as people dont think they can just do "ai give me a best selling game"
only people without skills think ai works
>>730725912>Stellar blade the game about nigger asses aimed at americans and blacks, just like their gacha game nikkeLmaoReminder their playerbase is so braindead as shown by their obsession with nigger asses that they literally pay for AI generated images
>>730725912i don't care honestlybut it's really fucking dumb for a developer to come out as pro or anti-AI, both directions are just going to bite you in the assif you're going to use it, use it and shut up. if the game is good people won't care
>>730726524because they are digging their own graves, in a couple of years someone will come up with an AI game maker and game studios will just stop existing since anyone can make any game and share it for free.
>>730726524It's true.
>>730726361>E33 being made by 33 peopleLmao
>>730725912>1 person do the work of 100Name a single concrete example.
>>730726020If you know how to draw (even if it's the very basics) then you'll know when the images you get from AI generation are bad and you can reasonably fix them through inpainting.
>>730725912I vibe coded some excel macros and they work pretty well
>>730725912Menial work like designing grass blades or anything worth thinking about?
>>730725912>Can it code decently yet?fuck no. It completely shits itself in huge projects because models still can't remember contexts.It'll give you code that "works" but it's either unoptimized shit or it breaks something else because AI forgot about that particular use-case that you have to address.Learn to code yourself, it'll be better for you and faster in the long run.
>>730726907why is this a bad thing
>>730726524It's true though. I've made hundreds of thousands of pictures using AI.
>>730730023is that useful work
>>730726524>1 robot that chugs water for 100 people It's only fair
>>730730061is making video games useful work?no it isn't
>>730730061I can draw more than 100 people can, like 1 billion times faster. AI will do this in tons of other ways too, I think the most important will be when you can prompt 3D stuff well
/v/ officially approved of AI right here.
>>730725912for gamedev specifically, it can do lots of things you could've already googled, and not many things that google wouldn't have helped you with before. 100x is a joke.
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>>730730216creating entertainment that will be enjoyed by many people seems to be useful work, yeah. entertainment is important for the quality of life of humans
>>730725912>Can it code decently yet?Not without Human. It lose context too fast.I think that's the biggest issue with AI. Making good code (which most software and games don't have nowadays) require a lot of abstract thinking. Without good context AI will never be able to produce whole, big software itself.
>>730730357so AI is usefulthanks for playing you lost the game
>>730730216People are paid for making video games. The only thing people would pay for when it comes to your tranime AI slop is a way to make you fuck off
>>730730247If there's anything that should tell you AI is a bubble and won't lead anywhere in the long run it's this right there, always bet on the opposite of what Squeenix does.
>>730730537>People are paid for making video games.that doesn't make it useful workballoon headed sub 70 IQ somalis are getting paid billions to do nothingbut you probably think they are useful too
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>>730725912i dont even care about ai being in games but i think if u cant be fucked to hire an art guy u dont deserve my money unless ur literally a 1 man project
>>730730720That Korean guy is one of the most successful artists of all time and he uses AI.
>>730730323If anything, that proves his point, anon.Midjourney creates images constantly through user requests. By the time a human has manually made one image, Midjourney already shat out 500+ images for different users across the globe.
>>730730876idgaf if ur successful im still not buying ur shitthats just my choice i dont expect the world to bow to my whims like a liberal
>>730725912I mean is true, even a """indie""" studio like Panthea in China have something like 600+ studio, the amount of people in china with college degrees is overwhelming, we have no shot at competing with that.
>>730730023that's cool, sanjay. i bet every single one looked like dogshit
>>730731117Not even for different users. It's likely for the same user, because midjourney usually won't quite give you want you wanted on your first attempt.
>>730731117>Midjourney creates images constantly through user requests.So do people but they do it slower and use more energy. Being inefficient isn't a good thing bud.
>>730725912Yes it can code 100% better than all junior devs. Junior devs these days dont even know what a hashmap is
>>730725912Trannies simply can't stop losing
>>730731613I mean art isn't exactly a strenous job. People use energy no matter what, you can't exactly tell an artist to switch to standby.
>>730725912/v/ is a contrarian state that looks to shit on anything first and be genuine second. Use whatever tools you need to get your vision realized.
>>730726271I mean they will clearly justify it when they cut staff for AI
>>730726479>we have Ai now, we can be much more efficient>will it cost less then?>lol no, efficiency is expensive
So instead of using UE assets, Shift Up can just generate their own.
>>730725912it's canonically justified to use AI in a game about the superiority of AI
>>730725973>>730729671That's the part I don't get. Is it actually saving anyone time yet, since you have to go through and validate and/or modify the code it outputs anyway?
What AI systems actually code? Is it an LLM like a chatbot but outputs in code? What do you use to do this?
>>730725912I think using ai is better than giving indians jobs
>>730734779Not for me at least.I guess MAYBE for front-end developers (people who write sites) it could speed up something, but for back-end and normal software coding is still in its baby state.Its only useful to ask it (for example) why a pointer behaves like a certain way, or very specific programming things that it would take you half an hour to understand. But for coding itself? Not in the slightest.
>>730725912If he's referring to actual AI sure. If he's referring to what techbro scam companies call AI then no.
>>730731117try getting midjourney to generate a usable sprite sheet
>>730734437>E33 uses AI and tons of UE assets>/v:/ YAAAAAAASSSS GOAT GOAT GOAT SEEEEEEXX GOAT SEEEEEX>stellare blade has a couple unimportant UE assets>/v/: UMM YIKES COOMER SLOP
>>730735627How long until UE assets are just AI generated?
>>730726020Not really.Why would it be?
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>>730725912Can't say what it's doing for art, but I work for a pretty big tech company and my company actually started restricting its usage really hard for coding. They found it was more of a hinderance and quality loss than useful for experienced devs, and that it massively slowed experience growth of new hires since they were too dependent on it.
>>730735162Professional SWR for 10 years now, only thing I find it useful for is for understanding how to do simple things in languages/frameworks that I'm unfamiliar with. Anything else is dog shit.
>>730736013*SWE
>>730725912AI is something normal nowadays. If you did not still get it, you are a boomer who can't accept the change in society.Change always happens.AI not necessarily means bad especially if there are checks and control.Master Kim got it, he is smart.
>>730734779At the very least, ChatGPT is extremely competent at making you aware of badly documented libraries and tell you how they could help you and if you give him the full stack of an error he's also extremely competent at managing to sus out where the problem might come from. It clearly saved me time on those two topics multiple times but it also can be very retarded and will require you to have some coding knowledge to know when to throw its shit back at it.
>>730725912>Does /v/ approve of "AI" yet?If it can do things that I like in high quality, then I like it. I don't care about people or the hard work that went into something.
>use own LLM trained on the company database to assist employers>have artist team feed genAI and train it to generate more concept artsi fail to see what is wrong with this, its what Shift Up has been doing since years by nowif you think they just fucking prompt gemini to generate anime girls you are retarded
>>730725912>Does /v/ approve of "AI" yet?Roger Rabbit Rule: only if it's funny.
