How can we make our favorite genre more appealing to audiences that actually buy video games?
That article has nothing to do with turn base and is another click bait thread.
I love JRPGs and I havent played metaphor or e33. they should start making games for me again.
>>730729036Sega needs to to do something soon, because even their stock is dropping.Maybe they should just make teeny romance simulators and drop the boring and repetitive combat that gamers loathe?
>>730729036Not at all
make it a cinematic action game that plays itself, worked for square enix.sega is equally out of touch so this is something they will probably do and they can finally go out of business.
>J>ourAnyone that uses that nuspeak term isn't a fan of RPGs. Enjoy gloating for now, turn based RPGs will get out of their current slump eventually.
>>730729295>Maybe they should just make teeny romance simulatorsThey did and look what happened.
>>730729036jrpgs are fucking stupid, i've never seen the appeal
>>730729579So newfags seethe about the term JRPG now?
>>730729674I remember being really excited for ths game, why the fuck was it so bad?
you can't just always make games about being a Japanese high school student. Capcom knew this, 30 years ago. Konami knows it. It doesn't matter what your game is like, if you lean too hard into the Japanese setting, many people will take one look at it and go "oh cool it's more gay anime shit"
>>730729036turn based is fine people just don't want tranime outside of 10 mentally ill weebs on /v/
>>730729036>boomers don't buy turn-based games, because they are dying out>browns don't buy expensive turn-based games, because they are poorIt is truly a tragic predicament. The only solution is to either just stick to low-budget pixel games or make the games more action oriented. Gamers need variety and not repetitiveness, so they don't get bored.
>>730729036>Japanese game>not on the SwitchThey were asking for it to flop. Steamies and Snoys wouldn't recognize a good game if it raped them.
>>730729036>The turn-based JRPG genre is failingFor one, that's not the claim either Atlus nor the article is claiming. Secondly, this claim is ridiculous to say after all the success that E33 saw in 2025, alongside the successes of other turnbased games.
>>730729036Aren't the DQ remakes selling really well in Japan?
>>730729036Love to see it
>>730729826>PS4 exclusive This alone is what keeps killing Sega. A lot of there games are still stuck on original hardware specially their rpgs. All the Phantasy Star PSP and DS games are stuck on a handhelds. Sakura Wars series is stuck on the Saturn and Dreamcast despite eventually being ported to later(now old) systems.
>>730730214Square Enix saw this coming years ago.It is only easy to make money with turn-based JRPGs if the project is low-budget and has pixel graphics. Nostalgiafags gobble that shit up.
>>730729036>more accessible to a wider audienceThis combination of words has never been followed by anything good.It's the "accessible" that should worry you, because it suggests that there's something that's too difficult or intimidating. In other words, they think that it's too complicated for retards or that the MoDeRN aUDieNCe isn't playing because the girls are hot. If he meant that people found the genre too monotone compared to something like CRPGs or slow compared to action games, for example, he'd use a word like "engaging" instead.
>>730730037Persona and capcom games became more popular than ever thanks to pc
>>730729036>Make a 500 hour long hunk of shit game with an embarrassing story and embarrassing characters.>Only 20 hours of it are actually good.>The only thing people ever talk about afterwords is the music.>We need to appeal to a wider audience.Or just not make embarrassing fucking weeb games that take far to long to play and finish.I seriously don't give a shit what dish of food my party member likes and I sure as fuck am not going on a 10 hour sidequest to make my friendship meter fill up.What ever happened to a 13 hour game like Chrono Trigger and the joy of just replaying that, make shorter games and remove all the fat.
>>730730713Problem is japanese development is too slow. When will Persona 6 come? 2027? 2028? You either go pixelated or full recycling which is why Atlus devs were worried
>>730729882>low-budgetJapanese games are low-budget to begin with, the fact that they slap 60/70$ price on them is ridiculous and completely out of touch with reality.
>>730730214Stillbirth bombed killing squere enix
>>730731415>When will Persona 6 come out.They spent all the time and effort remaking Persona 3 and now 4, you wont be getting a P6 until 2030 at least.
>>730731490How will you react when ff17 is announced
>>730729036Reduce the amount of textboxes to SNES era
>>730729036As far as Atlus goes, the solution is P6. P6 is a guaranteed hit.
Oh whoa look at the success of cinematic action slop for a "wider audience"
>>73072903630-45 hours of JRPG kino like E33 is infinitely better than 100 hours of padding and shit story like in average JRPG getting released nowdays
>>730730214>>730731490>>730731664Kek this is so easy to trigger
Trails got the best idea aka turn based x action
>>730731814Meant for this>>730730713Just use Rebirth combat, press a button and go turn based alas Trails
>>730729036They're just saying they'll keep pushing the Persona formula onto everything.And I pray to God they don't fuck up the next EO game because of it.
>>730731750Only games square enix is managing to sell are turn based like dragon quest or octopath. Action slop is flopping all the time
>>730729036Expedition 33 saved the genre
>>730730508On the contrary. Sega porting their games to PC and xbox has resulted in a diminished quality of their products. The fact Yakuza turned full on reddit the moment they ported the franchise to PC speaks volumes.
>>730732142Kys tendie
>>730729036JRPGs are pure cancer and should have died out in the 90s. If they die out in any way, that's a good thing.It's literally for faggots and retards.
>>730731880Trails is still mainly "turn based".
>>730729785It has always been a racist term. It implies all rpg made in japan play the same.
>>730732142>>730731986This is fucking hilarious, you ask for sales but as soon they get sales you are mad they become normalfag tier Didn't you want Yakuza to be popular? Now cope
>>730731664Keyword "on PC"
>>730731490Good morning, Barry. How nice of you to join us.
>>730729036Metaphor was a comie utopian pro immigrant propaganda with flat as desk asses on females how could you get even more normie friendly?
>>730730508>there games>a handheldsHoly ESL, Batman.
>>730729882Almost all nip games are on tiny budget that's why they look like it's still 2013
A new Ringo game please!
>>730729036good, boring ass shit
>>730732484>huge flop even with $1 game pass boost on Xbox+pc
>>730729882The jrpg audience is too old now and gacha is eating both the vn and turn based market. You either go full low budget or not.Atlus biggest mistake was waiting too long for P6 (even though I still believe it will sell great)
>>730731482Only FF looked more high budget. Though PS2 era was interesting since there were a lot of "FFX looking" jrpgs but it was when most of them died, with PS3 not even trying (SE didn't know how to adapt and Sakaguchi was retarded enough to stay in xbox then completely ignore the switch)Xenoblade has a good budget too but it's too weeb for the average person.E33 just took the emptiness FF left a little and even that one had a lot of recycled assets and a millionaire dad. Hell, the Pennyblood and Armed Fantasia will just die without a publisher
Maybe Atlus should stop re-releasing games as a full price separate purchase a year after release for a DLCs worth of extra content
>>730732963The whole SURPRISE NEW EDITION is biting them in the ass
>>730731664If it had more than one playable character and on pc day one it would have done a lot better
If turn-based games went permanently extinct I would start handing out random money daily because I can have confidence that a not single penny will be spent on unplayable dogshit for smug retards that think they are superior and smart despite claiming that navigating a menu and watching the game win for them is super difficult.
>>730729441The idea that turn-based games don't play themselves is delusional beyond reason.Turn-basedfags really the most smug of all the dumbest retards. I don't think I've ever once seen someone defending the turn-based genre that wasn't blatantly delusional about how superior they are.
boomer japs are out of touch
JRPGs have never been good and the sooner they go extinct the sooner the few actually talented people (artists and composers) who work in this slop can move their effort to something actually engaging.
>>730729036The problem with JRPG is that it is not enough mature for the average western guy.We want to bang Kawakami. It's not that hard to understand.
>>730729295.sega is a money laundering company, they dont even try anymore
>>730733720>JRPGs have never been goodThe pixel ones are pretty great. The turn-based 3D slop just isn't very good. Sometimes less is more.
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>>730729036Good.I don't hate turn-based, but it gets so annoying and boring after a few hours. Not to mention that literally every game feels and plays nearly the same.That said, why do developers consistently fail to make this genre more interesting?
>always release a $60 definitive edition that can’t be upgraded into >wtf why are our games flopping at launch must be a downturn in JRPGsRETARDED NIGGERS DIE
Just missing that one anon making a joke about Atlus fans being fat retards
>>730737438Some devs tried to make it hybrid while the main focus is still turn based like Falcom with the field battles being action combat but still forcing you to do turn based.
>>730738056Falcom on trails*
>>730736186>The pixel ones are pretty great.DS era was the last one before everything went to shit and became normie-focused. I'm still seething that they killed their srpg spinoff.
>>730729036style a game after good 90s anime instead of more "highschoolers win with the power of friendship kyaa" slop
>>730736186>The pixel ones are pretty great.I like the old Final Fantasy games, where combat is just treated like an obstacle. You just level up, collect gear and then feel how powerful you have become while spamming the X button in combat. I just hate this newer stuff where are forced to watch the same fucking loading screens and combat animations 10000 times over.
>>730729841You really think anime is niche?
>>730740223It is certainly less popular then edgy grimdark stuff like in Elden Ring.
>>730729841anime is fine and has never been more popular, it's the boring ass samey JRPG combat that's the problemanime website btw
