AI bubble will eventually collapse. And then ram and GPU prices will go back to normal. Generated slop games will disappear. When do you think AI will go away and we can have developers putting soulful effort into games again?
Never
>>730732931We will be in ww3 by then so don't worry about it
Efficiency doesn't go away. It's inevitable.
>>730732931Jeets will make sure the stink will never go away, despite offering nothing of value.
>everyone agrees ai is a bubble>the stocks keep growingexplain
>>730732931around the same time guns go away
>>730732931It won't.The hype will eventually down and the useful tools will stay.
>>730732931Give it awhile, investors still have hope despite the low returns
>>730732931around the time we start riding on horseback again
>>730732931Never, the tools are public and a few are open source or code leaked now. There is no putting the genie back in the bottle.
>>730732931pandora's box, niggeroni. it's only going to get worse, so you can either adapt or die
>>730732931AI is the new normalEnjoy new hardware prices (there isn't a shortage, we just refuse to make more)
>>730732931So true xueen I'll repost this on my bluesky
>>730733184useful tools will be free and offline and AI companies lose all their customers
>>730732931even if AI has plateaued it will still see use as it is today. so never
>>730733156people like to blame CEOs for shit, but they are only slaves to the special breed of retard known as investors
>>7307329312 more weeks
I hope the prices go even higher
>>730732931Sam like bitcoin bubble will eventually collapse.Just wait another 20-40 years. I am sure it will collapse. Just like bitcoin.
>>730732931>When will AI go awayAnon, I...
>>730732931AI is not going away, ever. The bubble will not pop, its subsidized by every super power on the globe. The real question is how do we organize a grass roots community of vetted, AI free developers without it being filled with a bunch of trannies that just want to make earthbound clones about depression or furry gooner shit.
>>730732931AI won't go away even after the bubble pops, just like the Internet didn't just evaporate after the dotcom crash. We'll just see a realistic realignment of expectations of what LLMs and image/video models can do instead of gambling all the money in existence on creating the Machine God.
>>730732931>AI bubble will eventually collapse.Yes.>And then ram and GPU prices will go back to normal.lol>Generated slop games will disappear.lamo
>>730733065>efficiency>power requirements pushing long-dead power plants to come back online>hardware requirements demand the construction of acres of data farms>still hallucinates, still generates uncanny garbage, outputs the most generic text imaginableAI fags don't know a thing about what theyre talking about
>>730732931>AI bubble will eventually colla-ACK
>>730733156The acceptance that Trump has been sufficiently bribed to bail them out at the moment of need
>>730732931Never. It's like the dotcom bubble. It will pop and the companies who actually understand it's use will remain. If we had a nation of people who could build we would have had built out of the power network and new factories for the production of computer parts and recycling but instead it's crying about means words on the internet.
>>730733308>He doesnt knowBrother... Furries and trannies love AI...
>And then ram and GPU prices will go backthis will never happen no matter how many bubbles you burst
>>730733254Probably.Businesses like OpenAi are nowhere near profitable, and there's no clear path to profitability either. Not with how many resources they need to operate.The bet on "AGI" will probably not pay off.
>>730733156>T-The dot com bubble burst, w-when will the internet go away guys
>>730732931When the TV goes away and people go back to the theater.
Just focus on hating and bullying anyone who uses AI so the progress stalls and shareholders lose money
>>730733391thats ai
>more demand, high price <- you are here>opportunity (see recent case: we're bringing back product!)>more production, lower price <- wait until we're here
>>730733156It doesn’t matter if its a bubble.Companies can continue pumping billions and billions into it for years to come
>>730732931Even if 10 AI bubbles pop, AI will not go away.
>>730732931>AI bubble will eventually collapsekek who's gonna tell him?
>>730733343>still hallucinatesAfter single cycles and no corrective models.>still generates uncanny garbageSame as before.>AI fags don't know a thing about what theyre talking aboutMeanwhile study after study about the brain shows it operates like these AI models. Even the hallucinations.
>>730733391@grok is this real?
>>730733156AI development is bankrolled by US/China govs and it's meant to benefit US/China govs, not people generating anime pictures. It's meant to be used for war, surveillance and cyberattacks and the value of that is a lot higher than the value of funny cat videos
>>730732931>jeet quivering in his sandals because AI took away his fiver jobs
>>730732972This. Even if companies go under (they won't) AI won't go away.
>>730733530>he says on 4chins
>>730733156Government investment. Are you dumb? They're too ingrained with the gov now to fail. Go read about Palantir x Nvidia. 1/3, of the US GDP is an AI circle jerk of money exchanging hands, all the while it's a "product" that consumers notoriously don't care about or WON'T pay for. The AI stonks are rising due to speculation, but also due to government investment. Palantir also landed a $10bn military contract last year that goes until 2030. Again, it's too big to fail territory. They're now propped up by the government same as financial and pharmaceutical industries. Number must go up. Government contracts must go to them. Taxpayer dollars must be given to AI companies.Oh! & don't forget the AI powered data profile that Palantir was contracted by the government to create on every US Citizen.
>>730732931its unironically a paradigm shift. The AI bubble may pop like the dotcom bubble and all these startups trying to get a piece of the pie will go under. But did the internet go away after the dotcom bubble? No. Now it's dominating our lives. The same thing will happen even more with AI.Computer prices will go back to normal gradually because manufacture of computer parts will be so ramped up that we will be swimming in VRAM within some years
https://x.com/venturetwins/status/2010878914273697956
>>730733657Jeets love AI thoughLiterally made scamming a million times easier for them
>>730733156Just two more weeks and few more e-waste warehouses, and my glorified next word/pixel prediction algorithm will become omnipotent, pierce space and time, transcend laws of physics and tell me how to make itself profitable.
>>730732931isnt the current iteration of AI just a transition period after which we will actually get somewhere better? granted 90% of AI-related industry practices are still about cost reduction with doing even rudimentary tasks in an inferior way (unless the comparison is between AI and indians, in which case its about the same), but Id rather want this shit to evolve than to see it killed off
People still expect the world to go back to what it was before 2020, but that isn't happening. There will continue to be updated iterations of "the new normal" that we all must adapt to - each more strange than the last.
>>730733391>couldn't spot the AI immediatelyI'm getting filtered and culledbut at least he isn't real
>>730733764That's just a narrative people like to repeat. AI will lead to a world where every IT company has a few leads working locally and every jeet job is done by AI controlled by those leads
>>730733725>But did the internet go away after the dotcom bubble? No. Now it's dominating our lives. The same thing will happen even more with AI.Yeah and the same thing happened with Space, and Nuclear, right? Not every game is the TORtanic, not every bubble is the dotcom bubble.
>>730733718>AND THE TRILATERALLCOMISSION PAID FOR BY THE ROTHCHILDS AND THE JEWISHINDUSTRIALCOMPLEX IN COHOOTS WITH M*SONICJESUITS ALL HAILING TO 666SATAN WHOREOFBABYLON
>>730733923>No, MY made up narrative is correct
>>730733803indeed, but a large portion of the user base here is autistic and cannot stand change. they literally freak out and go on autistic rants and spurgouts. this is where they will die. none of them contribute to silicon valley, to the computer world. despite protests, none of them can actually do anything because they never bothered getting into the industry. not to mention this is way above the level of entry and middle management level. The only thing they can do in this situation is make more of what they love themselves.
>>730733343People are fucking retarded and use it because they are told to use it by people with money invested in it. Companies will keep forcing it into everything for years to come despite anyone with two brain cells realizing that it's worthless as anything beyond a usually incorrect and far too power-hungry search engine
>>730733764>jeets don't have the hardware to run AI>jeets are facing a crisis right now and millions are losing their "jobs">fiver is on an all time low for low skilled digital workah yes I'm sure that's not a false narrative spun by jeets like youwhite man can now just prompt your job away, anywhere, anytime, lil jeettime for you to die with the other chimps in the steel mill
Local AI alone guarantees it'll never go away completely
>>730732931Never, It can still be used during the programing and coding of the game to cut some costs and greatly help the programmers, and people will never find out.
>>730734069You didnt need to reply to me twice
>>730733926>Yeah and the same thing happened with Space, and Nuclear, right?You think space went away lmao? Do you realize how much of what you do daily relies on some satellite floating in orbit?And nuclear only went away in fake countries that have performative finance based economies. Countries that actually need energy use nuclear energy
What's the next big thing after Ai?
>>730733783>isnt the current iteration of AI just a transition period after which we will actually get somewhere better?No. Some time ago, it became known that literally all digital data stored by humanity on the internet was processed by AI models for training. There is fundamentally nothing more to train them on other than synthetic data generated by those same models, which will only lead to further inbreeding of whatever flaws and biases they have and not to some kind of quality improvement. This technology has already plateaued. Turns out 10 sec cat videos and writing Hello World is as far as it goes. It's light years away from being able to write something actually complex such as modern video game engine, not to mention things like operating system.
it killed digital art but it caused traditional art to skyrocket so that's kinda nice I guess
It feels exhausting to think that slop will be a part of daily life, forever
>>730733783>isnt the current iteration of AI just a transition period after which we will actually get somewhere better?We won't get anything better. Or rather significantly better. Current models are algorithms that essentially predicts next set of symbols after receiving another set of symbols, virtual Chinese Room. It will never "think" the way we think, the very fundamental rules it's built upon prevents that. Every AI company CEO knows that but dumb investors don't so they keep running the scam because it means steady flow of money.
>>730733926>Yeah and the same thing happened with Space, and Nuclear, right?Exactly. There are no satellites in space. We have no idea how France generates 70% energy. Space X is not real and is just a hoax.
>>730734121so you're not going to reply to my post? ah yes, you really must be one of the intellectually declined brown chimps in india/pakistan, because white people can at least engage in a debateAI has replaced you, you can false flag as much as you want but nobody is outsourcing anything to india anymore aside from physical labouryour third world nation is failing, no amount of jeeting around will fix it
>>730734054Just wait till robotics actually kicks off. If AI can stop turning everyone black you pretty much wipe out every 100 IQ and lower. So basically 80% of this site.
>>730734280you know you can just NOT surround yourself with slop since you never leave your room anyway
>we bought ram that hasn't been made>to put in GPUs that haven't been produced>to power datacenters that haven't been built>which need power we can't give>to satisfy demand which doesn't exist>for a technology nobody has any good use for>to make profit that is mathematically impossible
>>730734280Oh no. Now the next buzzword of the week will be from a machine!
>>730734336>Ha, you didnt take my bait thus making me the winner.
>>730733926you like to dismiss it as just fancy autocomplete or just a personal secretary (as if that's nothing at all) but LLMs are like a calculator for thinking. People will stop thinking for themselves, just ask AI every time, and that's a big deal. And generators (used skillfully) save years of time for the same result. The younger generations especially do not give a shit about the ethics of it, and the future belongs to the young.It's as big as the internet, possibly even bigger (if you don't count that the Internet allowed AI to happen in the first place)
>>730733156Stock prices don't care if it's a bubble or not as long as numbers go up.Michael Burry predicted the 2008 crash three years in advance.
>>730734236You know jack shit about AI models, moron, you're the same kind of retard that SWEARED AI would never be able to draw correct hands
>>730734419is it all just AGI cope? whoever gets there first wins? and until it happens they just accept infinite losses?
>>730734236>Turns out 10 sec cat videos and writing Hello World is as far as it goes. It's light years away from being able to write something actually complex such as modern video game engine, not to mention things like operating system.Best (or worst) part is how retards genuinely believe that all they need to overcome this is MOAR COMPUTING POWER. Bruteforce anything, yay.
>>730734484>>730733775
>>730734484It's great how much AI shows us who the retards are. AIbros who are talentless hacks and smooth brains thinking they understand programming because thier mad at a chatbot.
>>730734554Sure thing buddy everyone is a retard only a minimum wage loser like you is "on the inside" and sees everything..
>>730734467>the future belongs to the young.laughs in boomer
>>730734553Whoever survives the incoming crash will become the next Google.
You all are already probably using AI right now without even knowing it so there's no point fighting against it. Embrace it. It only goes up from here.
>>730734553they're taking losses to get their foot in the door for the future. Because they see that this is a crucial transitional period that will never happen again. First dibs and all. Things aren't going back to normal
>>730734728I'm not and you cannot prove otherwise
>>730732931the bubble will pop but AI won't go awaythe internet was also a huge bubble that popped, but now you are using the internet all day every day
It wont, might aswell join your deadnamed brothers in the grave while we enjoy the paradise of gaming that is coming as a result of AI. You don't deserve it afterall.
Meanwhile...>Some users of artificial intelligence (AI) technologies, especially chatbots, may develop beliefs that AI has or can attain supernatural or spiritual powers. AI models such as ChatGPT are turned to for fortune telling, mysticism and remote viewing. Recent and sudden advances in large language models have led to folk myths about their origin or capabilities, as well as their deification or worship by some usersPeople are forming literal religions about chatbots.
I'm convinced the economy is fake as shit and money has no actual value besides what people in power give it. Why record a debt when nobody will ever pay it back?
idk but my morals as a artist goes down as i gen krystal in a bikini
>>730733007Who's we? Us uncs will be living the easy life, being too old for the draft.
>>730734806>PeopleVulnerable idiots.
>>730734693I actually have PhD in applied physics and work as researcher, you dumb faggot. If you want to make my department laugh for an hour or so try to tell them how AI will replace us.
>>730734806like that insane stellar blade Polish guy
>>730734807it's like in peter pan: if you say you don't believe in economy, somewhere, a banker dies.
>jeet>tranny>jeet>tranny>jeet>tranny>jeet>tranny
>>730734806>People are forming literal religionsNigga open a history book.
>>730732931It will be around for a few more years, but progress is currently very slow, some believe it has reached the peak of what can be reasonably accomplished with the current computing hardware
>>730734797Phone posting right now. Can someone look up the archives for this image for me?
>>730734896>researcherSo the people who create new information and don't process it.
>>730734896Oh yeah, well I have a PhD in post-modern theoretical metaphysics and a black belt in aikido, me and the boys at the dojo are laughing at you right now
>>730732931I wouldn't be surprised if the generative stuff, making little videos or images, becomes a not-very-widely-used paid feature.It costs a lot of resources and doesn't bring in any profit. Once the tech is no longer appealing for constant new investment, the free nature of it will fade away. But the AI chat bots and especially anything which could automate white collar menial labor will definitely stick around unless they're banned by the government
>>730735126No don't doubt him. Take him seriously and make him explain his logic.
>>730733417Good, then it will be easy to create such a community. Mentioning depression rpgs and furry garbage was meant more as a critique on common indie game trends than a speculation on who is and is not against AI. Anti AI people seem like a pretty eclectic population to me
>>730734467This looks like I'm in for making money on lots of retards whose own brains have atrophied due to letting e-waste think for them. It's a thoroughly proven medical fact btw.
>>730733938Don't even need to go there. Everything I said is just open fact that occurred in the past year. Everyone is asleep at the wheel though. Nobody grasps the level of the surveillance state has already been set in motion & is on the horizon
>>730732931Ahahaha, yeah. Imagine one day Trump comes up and says "Yeah, we invested literal gazillions of dollaridos into this shit, but now we are going to stop, shut down all data centers and let china win AI race! Make America Lose Again!". Just how delusional you need to be to think that it will ever stop sucking in all the money.
>>730732931This shit has military applications.Meanwhile military budgets are being massively increased around the globe.The autonomous robot armies are coming and there is nothing you can do to stop them.
>>730735146>I wouldn't be surprised if the generative stuff, making little videos or images, becomes a not-very-widely-used paid feature.I think there's a lot of demand for iteverything now covered by stock photos and stock images (both pretty big markets), advertising in various forms, all the UI elements for websites or games, backgrounds for powerpoint presentations and so on and so forthall the shit that's expected to be there, but no one really pays much attention to. Not everything drawn or photographed is some sort of high art, lots of it is already a hand-made slop
>>730735068It's a real article. https://theconversation.com/transgender-nonbinary-and-disabled-people-more-likely-to-view-ai-negatively-study-shows-260397
>>730734553there is no loss for big corporations, every loss is socialized and every profit is privatized :) that is the future you americans destroyed the world for, enjoy
AI will still exist but it will remain unpopular and unprofitable for creative projects such as vidya.
>>730733803People forget that Rome being sacked gave the world 1000 years of dark ages, where 60% of existing technologies and culture disappeared within a generation, countries depopulated etc.Everyone is failing to understand what social collapse does to technology. All it takes is for a large consumer market to collapse somewhere and all these companies will just close down like steel furnaces in europe. In 15 years no one will remember how chips are made well enough to run, let alone make the lithography machines. And guess what, population decline is already collapsing consumer markets today. They'll have to flood everything with robots I guess. That could be fun. But they seem to want to create AI employees instead...
>>730734074If you can afford a GPU
>>730733464This. Bubbles burst for investors, for consumers AI is here to stay.
>>730732931when it's stops making CEOs moneyso never
>>730735524>Rome being sacked gave the world 1000 years of dark ages
>>730732931>Retards that mop floors for a living on here think "AI" is just about making ghibli memes and then wonder why the stocks don't go down because they're mad they missed out on generational wealth Lmao. I'd say to at least try a subscription to Gemini and see how good it is for making your job easier, but then I remember that AI still can't unclog shitters yet so I get why you think it's not a game changing piece of technology yet.
>>730735601>being poor
>>730732931>ram and GPU prices will go back to normal
>>730733624>ignore my actual point for "le brain is flawed"willfully ignorant or retarded? take your pick
>>730735524>In 15 years no one will remember how chips are made well enough to run, let alone make the lithography machines.Literally everyone with a bachelor's degree related to computer science is supposed to be taught what is transistor and how and why it works the way it works. There is about 50 years between knowing what semiconductor is and computers that render 3d graphics.
>>730732931>AI hatterdud, get on train or leave in dust.. AI is our future
>>730735736>ignores my point on how the brain and AI operate since it means he has to run 3 brain cells instead of 2It's alright. I know you don't know shit from chocolate.
>>730735675why didn't non-christians just continue the advancement if only the christian dark age held humanity back?
>>730732931>and GPU prices will go back to normal
>>730733156AI is currently priced as an already very valuable thing [x] while also considering a probability [p] that it is highly transformative (or deadly) [y], for a formula of [x+py]. When [p] decreases the valuation decreases but this isn't a mark against current models, just the odds of AGI/ASI being soon.
>>730735837They waited patiently for the white masters to return to sanity, obviously.
>>730732931>When will AI go awayNobody tell him....
>>730734797>>730735445>Turn a casual insult into an "article" cherry picking some random data >Retards treat it as the gospel because it validates their feelingsThe usual monkey business
>>730735679Nice captcha.
>>730732931ai is never going awayunless we end up with the butlerian jihadbut we won't, best get used to it.gpu's will come down once someone figures out how to make them specifically for AI/LLM use. or when the chinese break nvidia's monopoly
>>730735675It's a very funny picture but this statement is an objective truth. The main things early modern era Europe had that Rome didn't have, such as steel, compass, gunpowder, were all imported from outside of Europe. Across the board, even after 1000+ years, it did not recover and was a complete shithole in most metrics compared to Roman empire at its height - general literacy level, complexity and consistency of legal system, construction engineering, military organization - were generally matched only by 19th century. There are good reasons to assume that Roman empire wasn't far from its industrial revolution when it fell victim to racial degradation.
Worst invention in human history?
They could just build more factories. Sure it'll take a few years but then we'll have more ram and other computer parts for cheap.
>>730735835Retarded it is, ai fags are all the same
>>730732931>And then ram and GPU prices will go back to normal. No, this bullshit is the new normal.
>>730736147aoc
>>730733184This. It’ll be funny to look back on 2025 like “OMG AI WILL REPLACE US ALL” and in 2030 we’ll just think “it’s pretty neat” and life will continue with no big upheaval. Artists will always make art. Nothing ever happens.
>>730736167Letting 2 out of those 3 brain cells rest I see.
>>730736147Age of consent
>>730735524>>730736108These rants are all existential anxieties over China simply overtaking from then on. You can tell because you never mention them in this speculative model of yours.
>>730735983The vast majority of retards seething about AI on normie media have trans flags or pronouns in their bio though
>>730736147It's definitely the least effective one lmao. The amount of wealth dumped into that shit dwarfs civilization-defining technologies such as atomic energy or space travel, and all it has to show so far are dancing cat videos and faulty programming code that takes more time to debug than human writing it.
>>730736231rich coming from someome that skips the first half of a post to fixate on something else kys tranny jeet ai fag
More likely than AI "collapsing" (what does this even mean?) it's more likely that manufacturing will catch up so chips become affordable again.
>>730736314Terminally online people tend to show up online more often
>>730732931>when will steam powered loom go away?Current gen AI will go away when it's replaced by something more powerful. It will only get worse
>>730736356lmao seething
>>730736314Of course, I'm sure this post is well researched and not made up.
>>730733156The politics is the giant steel spiked ball
>>730736108We are in a new cycle. First we were monkeys following herds for food. Agriculture allowed us the ability to manipulate our environment at a finer level. The Fall of Rome was the example of our end of that eras cycle. We needed to combine the knowledge of the other lands with the boiling pot that Europe was. It's why Europoors who think America falling will mean them going back on top are retarded. Look at Egypt, Greece, and Italy.
>>730736356I'm just not reading your posts. You have nothing to offer so seethe one more time to feel better about your sub-30 IQ.
>>730736416see >>730735445
>>730732931>and we can have developers putting soulful effort into games again?AHAHAHAHAHALet me make this loud and clear for you and everyone else on this board; MAJOR GAME COMPANIES, DEV PROJECTS, AND PUBLISHERS DO EVERHTHING THEY CAN TO CUT COSTS AND CORNERS TO MAKE MONEY. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY AND ALWAYS WILL, THE "SOULFUL EFFORT" YOU SPEAK OF NEVER CAME FROM ANYONE BUT A SELECT FEW. Politics, graphics, sex appeal in the art or models were all used to subsidize quality and effort in products. Why try to make the game more fun when the boobies sell it already? The ONLY people who actually make soulful quality are the indie devs and the small AA studios of yesteryear doing it out of passion over just a paycheck.
>>730735850To be fair they did start going back down between 2023-2024, but if you missed you window of opportunity then, lol
>>730736473So you're assuming that there's a "cycle" because of exactly 1 (one) incident of civilization's failure? This shit about muh cycles is a result of 19th century Christian projections of their obsession with apocalypse on tangible matters, and I have no idea why people still read and believe it 150 years later.
>>730732931Remember when they said video game prices could go down if we all started getting digital downloaded games and the prices will adjust to account for the lack or manufacturing discs and carrs?
>>730735675Funny. People really don't get it. They stopped building sewers and aqueducts because no government was around with enough cash and skilled manpower for that. In the first generation engineers moved to places with good pay, so in a few years there weren't any engineers to teach a young generation in most places. Half of the old world became nearly primitive in a few decades besides weaponry, which slowly progressed, but no one noticed because old infrastructure worked for a while longer. Engineering became fancy, sparse knowledge in dusty old books. Countries like Muslim ones won't even notice the difference. We might become old telling chad's children that when we were young we could be Chads too in a magical box called the computer, and we had beautiful wives who loved us in them...
>>730732931>When will AI go away.It won't. You'll just stop seeing it on the forefront. People are going to realize it's just a faster Pinterest and only use it for templates and preproduction. Game devs will never again admit to using AI and you'll consume their stuff none the wiser.
>>730736669>because of exactly 1 (one)No. You fucking retard. I literally pointed out the shift from hunter gathers to agriculture. Think about the mental shifts needed to survive and prosper in that system.
>>730736147Feminism.
>>730732931I'm making a slop pipeline for my game engine.
>>730736358>what does this even mean?It means that investors finally notice there's no perspective of profit and not even a hypothesis on how to generate profits in the future.Altman going on stage and declaring "we'll just make AGI (maybe) and then ask it how to be profitable" was so audacious that it's awe-inspiring, but it won't last."AI: the set of tools" and "AI: the gold rush market" should be treated as separate entities.
>>730733156Modern economy is just the same financial firms trading imaginary money between each other.
>>730736815That's funny way to say "engineers were killed and eaten by a brown chimpout for being godless white devils".Surely there's a history written by a certain religious organization, which claims that the original European civilization was destroyed by Germans, GERMANS, but the same organization claims that there are magical jews out there who rise from the dead. At the same time, nothing prevents anyone to look at Roman demographics, and at where exactly that religion came from, and put 2 and 2 together.
>>730736890companies and devs that already admitted to it though will get shit on until the end of time
>>730732931AI will never go away, but the bubble will burst in 1-3 years and prices for hardware will stabilize somewhere lower than where they are now. Right now we're in a highly speculative environment.
>>730732931>soulful effortYou just want naked children in your games.
>>730734871Haha that sounds like a zoomer problem, lock in twin gng because the enemy don't fw
>>730737032Is that really true though? OpenAI is profitable if you remove training costs for new models. Gemini just inked a deal with Apple to power Siri (big deal). Claude is expanding into workplace automation which is where the actual money is.Perhaps the periphery of tiny AI startups and the gigafactory frontier models may not be super profitable, but there is a lot of money being made.I think a lot of this is wishful thinking from people hoping the cost of RAM goes down.
>>730733156>nvidia "invests in" (gives money to) OpenAI for AI shit>OpenAI gives that same money back to nvidia to buy GPUs that don't exist>line go up>Amazon "invests in" (gives money to) OpenAI for AI shit>OpenAI gives that same money back to Amazon to buy a distributed system infrastructure that doesn't exist>line go up>Microsoft "invests in" (gives money to) OpenAI for AI shit>OpenAI gives that same money back to Microsoft to buy full AI software products that don't exist>line go up>Intel "invests in" (gives money to) OpenAI for AI shit>OpenAI gives that same money back to Intel to buy AI chips that don't exist>line go up>"Nuclear" power companies "invest in" (gives money to) OpenAI for AI shit>OpenAI gives that same money back to those companies to buy non-existent power stations supplying power that isn't scientifically possible>line go up>gov't gives all these company bailout bux from taxpayer money>all these companies send the money back to the billionaires running the gov't under the table>line go uphmmm I wonder
>>730733156They're hoping that they're investing in Google during the .com bubble.All they got to do is pick the right one and they're set for life
>>730736108Rome could never have had the industrial revolution because it lacked the mathematics and precision components. The Eastern Roman empire continued through the middle ages, but could do nothing with the Roman achievements besides lazily imitating."Progress" isn't a given. It takes a very specific mentality at all layers of society. It's why China took a century to promote this mentality in its society and still hasn't fully succeeded.This is why the AI shit is so dangerous. They're building tech without a market because of this specific western mentality, a delusion even, because it worked in the past. In this mentality profit potential comes before risk. We'll soon see what happens...
>>730736890>People are going to realize it's just a faster Pinterest https://thisweekinvideogames.com/feature/concept-artists-in-games-say-generative-ai-references-only-make-their-jobs-harder/No, they won't, because it's bad at that.
>>730733065>>>>>>efficiency Hey hire me for your company, I'll work super fucking fast.If I ever don't know the answer to something instantly, all I gotta do isg u e s s .Think of all the time we could save!
>>730736387>When will roman aqueducts go away Never!Then they went away for 1000 years
>>730736558And an article is some sort of proof to you? People most likely to like AI are young, male and Indian/Chinese
>>730736642It's incredible how most people here seem to believe that AAA gaming ever had any legitimacy or artistry behind it. It's like everyone forgot smaller studios being bought out, buttfucked and killed off enmasse in 00s, though considering how often I've seen people here fawn over sluts from RA3 cutscenes, I can assume many of them never knew any better.
>>730732931Why is it valued so high in the first place?What does AI do that makes people money?
>>730732931>AI bubble will eventually collapseSo did the dot com bubble. and the internet is still there.
>>730738148>Why is it valued so high in the first place?investor circlejerking>What does AI do that makes people money?literally fucking nothing
>>730738148OpenAI could have chose to be profitable in 2023 if it wanted by cutting down on expensive training and just commercializing GPT4. But they instead made the (correct) decision to double down and continue gaining venture capital to train bigger models that have even more possible revenue. Valuations then match this possibility of higher profits when they eventually slow down their training computer usage and pivot to inference compute. Whether this happens before or after AGI is a moot point because GPT5.2-Codex is already at the point of automating much useful work (and is thus immensely valuable).
>>730732931It won't. It will only morph into something you will eventual either accept or forget exists.
>>730736669It's not 1. Archeology keeps finding dead civilizations. The middle east Muslims just destroyed a bunch of tech and executed the thinkers that went against the Quran.What about those 11000 year old megaliths in turkey? They built a massive complex but had no agriculture, buried it and no one built another for 4000 years. What about Egypt? They built a shitton of pyramids, turns out they ran them like tourist attractions to attract wealth. Then lost all knowledge of how to do it and we still debate how it was done today. What we have today is thousands of times more complex to replicate. If we fuck up It's not coming back for thousands of years. And we're fucking up socially big time. Much worse than even Rome did
>>730732931>>when will industry go away?>When will cars go away?>when will the internet go away?Oh, honey
>>730736782That was a riot. Discs and stores were 15% of the cost. Then valve started asking 30% for stroking their dicks just to slap games on their glorified webpage.
>>730738418Okay, but what do llms do that actually makes money? What would a company need chat gpt for that it can't do with a human?
I think I want to understand more why people with brown skin and usually originating from underdeveloped or impoverished countries seem to gravitate more towards AI? Its obvious its never going away but why do THOSE specific phenotypes seem to love it so much more than anything else on the planet.
>>730733338This. >>730733343You are vastly underestimating the volume of AI content being created. The power requirements for a single AI piece of music or video is very low, many times lower than if a human were to make it. Even if the market bubble bursts tomorrow, it doesn't matter. We already have local models that produce superior content than humans. Can't put the genie back in the bottle
>>730738830It's magic to them. I have no shit seen people on /x/ who believed chatgpt is an oracle.
>>730734236I had Google turn my mediocre self picture into a proper photoshoot which was neat. Have to upgrade from Pro to Ultra to remove some crust in the generations though from what I've seen.
>>730738830>from underdeveloped or impoverished countries seem to gravitate more towards AI?It's easy to start a grift that makes a couple of dollars every couple days, which in a poor country could be more than the average employed person makes.There's people making a living out of producing AI slop on YouTube with minimal editing.
>>730733156The final part of the infinite money glitch is that, when the bubble pops, all the rich people get bailed out and suffer no consequences to their actions. Bubbles only hurt poors.
>>730737979>And an article is some sort of proof to you?No, but the statistic (with a source) inside that article is.
>>730733007Because of Donald TrumpYou voted for this btw
>>730738813Are you retarded? Even if you can program or do SQL queries, having the LLM write a script that would take you 3 hours in 1 minute is a clear improvement. Of corse you do need someone who knows what how to do that stuff, to supervise the output, but the work you can get done per day is insane
>>730738148Because its literally the coolest shit I've seen the last 5 years. It can practically do my job for me at this point and I've started coding again just for fun because it takes all the bullshit of going through stackoverflow away for taking care of certain problems.I literally told you retards to buy all of this stuff 2 years ago. But you didn't fucking listen. I had people on this very site telling me "no one needs 64gb of RAM, save the 100 dollars and just get 32GB instead" and that I was a retard for buying a 2nd hand 4090 for $1100 a year ago, and we all just need to wait for the AI bubble to pop like Steve says!Well guess what. You're priced out. Reminds me of the people that got sidelined from buying a house the last decade waiting for the AirBnb bubble to pop.
>>730738813NTA but AI helped my company reduce call volume (support people being called by customers) by 80% with an actual increase in sales (these two points are easily correlated as the line of business is somewhat "seasonal" and static). This means my company is going to layoff a lot of support staff which reduces operation costs.
>>730739269how should someone integrate it with their job. should we learn its mechanisms despite its ease of aid?
>>730737084Christianity kept Rome going when it was failing. Rome hit currency debasement and gave away citizenship before that. Caesar had put an end to the republic just decades before Christ. Christianity also took centuries to establish itself. There's a long history of Roman imperial debasement that looks exactly like Idiocracy before the first Christian emperor. For about 150 years christians returned patriarchy and marriage when it was gone from Rome. The Germans didn't destroy it either. The christian Romans had again become hedonistic and lazy like the ones they had replaced and refused to marry and have children. Then arrived the Germans with their hyper-patriarchy, sacked Rome and went back to their own lands with the spoils. That didn't destroy Rome, Rome had destroyed itself centuries earlier when the republic had become so corrupt it tricked Caesar into killing it just so roman currency and citizenship would stop being worth anything.
>>730738813What do you mean? You can use AI to replace a bunch of workers thus saving money. The first people to go are contract musicians. Now you can just take a musical composition and feed it to an AI that can output a fully orchestrated track.
>>730738148>what's interesting about computers that can think like people and work like this but 9999999999999x faster
>>730732931I support AI. I think it's a good thing actually
Anyone else weirdly enjoy having A.I clean them up in photos?
>>730739174God himself wrote that for you, huh? Retarded animal, you believe anything
>>730738813AI already does a good enough job on any low to medium level knowledge work that you can do on a computer. Now you just need one qualified senior AI tardwrangler to herd them in the right direction, and now you have a mob of acceptable quality workers for the price of one salary.
>>730739314Corporate loyalty is dead and it's no suprise why. From your manager's perspectives this all seems bog standard for layoff waves and just how buisness works. I'm glad I live in an age where we aren't pretending workplaces are like a family and that I'm good to swing from branch to brach of opprotunities liberally. It's not fair, but it never was, the only difference I see is transparency and less discrimination against the worker for playing it just like it is.
>>730737870it's already been used in animation (disney, sony), cgi (ILM), mathematics (NASA) for the past 10 years. but sure tell me how its not an efficient and effective tool.
I am pro AI but I'm against AI generated CP or using AI to strip real minors
>>730739181You know what they say about assuming
>>730732931>Every bank is investing in it>Every government is investing in it>Totalitarians love it because it allows them to more easily control speech>Corpos love it because it allows them to cut workers>Other Corpos also love it because the massive tech requirements are decimating consumer-owned electronics and further pushing us into the "stream only" future they want>Transitioning 3rd-world to 2nd-world countries love it because it's a cheat code to being "creative" when they only just got internet and don't have decades of Blender/Photoshop/C++ experience like the 1st worldIf you think AI is going anywhere, you're not paying attention.
>>730739396In my case I just ask it what I want and it gets me about 90% of the way there, rather than the old days of writing boilerplate code and slowly iterating. It takes what could be a workday and turns it into about an hour. It's 10x better to wrangle an AI than a junior or outsourced programmer.Even for pricing estimates, a year ago it would be dead wrong by up to a factor of 2 or 3. Now it's right in the area of a good ballpark estimate that I would make by hand. This does assume you're using one of the paid models though, but mine literally came with a year free from just buying a new phone.At this point, I view not using it in a knowledge field job akin to people that would still insist on using punch cards for programming instead of a terminal.
>>730739761I accept your concession, tranny.
>>730732972Google/Alphabet will beat 9/10 of the companies currently focused on AI, and the bubble will shrink. The bubble popping doesn't mean AI goes away. There will be winners and losers just like literally every other endeavor.
>>730739887What an odd thing to say
>>730739724Same. Guns don't kill people, people usong guns do. I support gun rights because it empowers and is a useful tool to the individual that may be powerless otherwise. Even if there are bad actors misusing it, legislating or taking it away will only affect those who were playing within the confines of the law to begin with. That's almost 100% how I feel about AI as well, just replace the self defense functionality for media generation and assistance.
>>730739887AI datasets were trained on CP and otherwise illegally obtained images of real minors because the people making the datasets just scraped whatever data they could get their hands on, so it's all poisoned.
>>730739653You could have replaced 90% of teachers with VHS, but no one did. Then again with the internet. COVID was a perfect time, but they made the experience so horrid they went back to classes. Turns out tech didn't fix society's retardation and delusions
>>730739724I'm sorry. Now you're an Indian.
This>>730739895It's taking over for a fuckin reason.
>>730732931it's THE ultimate "line go up" tool, it would take a global economic collapse for it to go anywhere (and even then it would just be scaled back and get far more expensive instead of disappearing)
>>730739887I think most people are against CP.
>>730739887Think of the pixels!
>>730738882>Can't put the genie back in the bottleThis is a mantra of patently uncivilized people. You should be actively disenfranchised.
nice
The real value of the AI revolution is devaluating labor in the first world.
>>730732931shit is here to stay sadly
>>730739665They can't do either thing. They only work where the original jobs weren't needed in the first place. My company replaced customer support with it. It couldn't do it. Then they replaced the "basic questions" only (a FAQ essentially), people would just immediately demand to talk to a person, so it was 100% useless. My take is that even if you can have it be 95% accurate people would hate it
>>730733156The everybody you're talking about only make up 5% of shareholders
>even the dall-e sperg central on /v/ is deadPeople are totally not tired of genAI trust me guys
>>730732931>leftist doesn’t know what an economic bubble ispottery
>>730739997Whatever you're on about has nothing to do with AI.
>>730735094This is single most dumb thing I heard this entire month.
>>730732931If we lived in a democracy we could just make this shit illegal. Instead the feds have literally passed laws limiting states rights to regulate this shit.
>>730740101It's 4chan. You'd be surprised
>>730740353Everyone wants to look at niggers and dykes in all their media trust me guys
>>730740353it's not dead it just got moved because the leftytroon jannies are seething about AI
>>730732931>When do you think AI will go awayAs soon as digital art goes away (never)
>>730737440this anon speaks truth. Better Offline did a good 4-part series about this.
>>730740128The only way to put the genie back in the bottle would be to ban personal computing or make open source illegal. In either case, you're a demon.
>>730732931AI is the kind of thing that can only even exist in a world where the overwhelming majority of people are willing to lie about their intentions all the time, which is unfortunately our exact predicament. Population bombing and Jewish greed combined into a hell of a war effort against mankind in general.
>>730739804Yeah, I never had corporate loyalty and the family shit was always cringe. I stick to the "two~ years and dip for higher pay" method and keep gaining.>I'm glad I live in an age where we aren't pretending workplaces are like a familyEh, the employers know but the useless idiots in HR still do this shit test. Just cut out the ceremonies; you want my labor, I want your money. Simple as.
we need more AI like grok who won’t shill globohomo, LGBTQ+ forced gender reassignment on children, or mass illegal migration and voting fraud. it’s insane how democrats are able to stop Trump from doing what he was elected to do, thankfully the dems will get destroyed in the midterms since they’ve been exposed as awful horrible people several times over now, and grok has seen it and will not hide the truth from anyone who asks him.
>>730740506>If we lived in a democracy we could just make this shit illegal.Well here's the problem, your nation doesn't exist in a vacuum. You ban AI in yours. What about literally everybody else? How far will you go to prevent people accessing foreign AI platforms? Banning VPNs? Arresting people who engage with them? Being a complete and utter totalitarian?
>>730734896You are in a field that is literally a bubble which already popped.
>>730740592
>>730739895Retard>Totalitarians love it because it allows them to more easily control speechThis is all it is. Control speech, control ads and searches, control digital content algorithms, control consumptionWhat they fail to understand is that people need money to spend money and the attention economy is already maxed. What they'll achieve is building all that shit and customers saying "okay, but I'm not spending until my rent goes down and not working overtime until my purchasing power goes up"They already have total control. What they'll get is more Linux users and Street protests by people who viscerally hate ai. Women might even wake up to being marketed to on TikTok by bullshit algorithms
It's not going anywhere, but it's going to fucking kill the internet thanks to the ease of flooding everything with copious amount of shit.
>>730732931They are pushing for it harder than they pushed for VR so it will probably take a while. My guess is 10 years at the very least, they are investing just too much on it and most likely scenario is that even detractors will eventually find something to use it for and make some concessions...
>>730740607The fact that a resource is irrevocably contaminated isn't an issue of whether I'm out to ban it. It's the fact of the matter and people shouldn't make excuses for using it.
>>730740747>Agree with what he says and then makes up a fantasy land where everybody swaps to Linux and women become awareCope of unprecedented scale.
>>730740468Yes it does. Just because functional tech is made doesn't mean it will be used. Hype is driving this market with 0 certainties just like dotcom.
at my clinic job they wanted to add ai transcribing which meant instead of typing a chart like a normal human being with shorthand i had to speak into the microphone which meant i could not multitask at all and had to fix errors in typing and formatting that the doctor is used to. there was a big slideshow presented that said it would save time when it didn't and called into question confidentiality because here i am forced to speak someone's fucking chart outloud
>>730740353it's just on /vg/ now >>>/vg/vig
>>730740816Why would excuses be needed? What reason is there not to use it?
>>730732931As soon as the weaving loom gives way again to the spinning wheel
>>730732931Every time someone asks this here, you get little kids and retards implying that the bubble popping means AI fails and goes away. The bubble popping occurs when the winners solidify their positions as winners, and then there's less investment capital thrown at everything else in the space.
>>730740353DallE general has a half dozen either Barneyfag tier trolls or autists who shit up the place and make it uninhabitable, spamming illegal content, starting flamewars with namefags and discord infighting shit, the exact same things 4chan has been warning about for a decade. Same actually for LLM chatbot threads on any board. As a user I don't blame anyone for vacating those places.
>>730740353Some reason the /co/ dall-e is still there so its 100% mods being uppity here.
>>730732972Let's invest 11 trillion into ai>okLet's get rich by multiplying our investment>OK!How?>idk. Huh? Wheres the 11 trn?
>>730740829VHS didn't replace school because school is more about daycare than education. People don't want to homeschool their kids because it's inconvenient. It's not because of any resistance to replacing teachers with technology. As soon as we have robot nannies, school teachers will be over.
>when will electricity go away>when will cars go away>when will the internet go awayyou are here>when will AI go away
>>730741016Lets buy bitcoindts insteadIn the current year investing in the AI bubble just looks safer than in anything else.
>>730741054Before people used to train their kids in whatever profession they were devoted to or their kids would seek apprenticeship or join the military, or become a housewife or a bandit.
It might be a bubble but it isn't going away.
What I find the most annoying is that with the AI boom no dev had actually done some PROPER AI the games.I would actually LOVE to see an advanced AI like the black and white creature, but 100x more advanced, I want to see advanced AI enemies that learn, adapt and feel human to fight against and not Elden Ring input reading shit.I want advanced AI to create generated worlds that feel unique and nice done.But as far as I know, the only "AI" gaming devs ever use is for art or voices?
>>730732931It won'tEven if your country stops using it, other superpowers (China) will. Its the current "space race" and nobody wants to be behindGet used to it, its here to stay
>>730734484>swearedWhy is it always a jeet
>>730741016Let's get our country in 30 gazillions of debt>okLet's get rich by multiplying our loaned money>OK!Now give back all the money>uhhh w-what money...Global economy 101
>>730741185Ok?
>>730740498>I'm stupid and have nothing to say.
>>730732931The bubble bursting will also lead to the market crash. It will be minor but if there is a war then it would be major across the world. And the war is "maybe" Trump gearing up like there is going to be a war doesn't mean there will be one. It could just be him trying to save his poll numbers in some insane way.
>>730740925That's a very gormless question and speaks to how distracted you are by the efficiency of the thing. I could sit here and revisit its immorality, it's illegality under current copyright laws, its propensity for abetting forgeries and CP, its obvious lack of desirability to end users, and so on, but there's no point in debating any of that with someone who thinks "genie out of bottle" is some baseline we all have to accept. We actually don't have to accept it, despite your apparent fear of any inconvenience you'd face as a result. I think you intend to force everyone to have to use something they don't want to while pretending to be a proponent of choice.Like I said, people like you should be disenfranchised.
>>730741016from my understanding it's just a bunch of corpos giving each other money, like corpo A gives 1 tril to corpo B, who gives 500bil to corpo C and D, and C&D give their 500bil x2 to corpo A, like a loopbut it won't matter when no profits turn up because why would anyone be incentivized to stop AI expansion when you could just ignore debt or get bailed out? or start a war
>>730741168Diversify and you'll be golden.
>>730741337>Now give back all the moneyHuh? Give back to whom, it was made out of thin air, why would we return the money into nothingness? >Global economy 101I see, another PhD in econ!
This same thing happened with the advent of Digital Cameras. Photographers thought their art would be completely destroyed and they'd have no future. Instead they thrived. A.I is a tool.Most of you just repeat whatever uninformed opinion the e-celebs on Twitter and YouTube you follow told you to parrot, and then start calling people brown/Indian and spouting "Saar" when challenged on the fact you are actually being an NPC by both not having any knowledge on the matter you are shouting about while also not having your own opinions on the matter.
>>730741593>when no profits turn upSmall downside, just get higher loans.>start a warAh, great thing that cia is good at agitiating. We'll see how well Iran fares.Ukraine is burning through its civilians like its ww1.
>>730732931Just because a bubble pops doesn't mean shit will just vanish, just the most overvalued players.Dotcom bubble had survivors and we're still using the internet today. We will still have slop, it's just people will no longer fall for the hype of "this LLM will solve all your problems and all future problems bro INVEST NOW" marketing shlock.
>>730741828Same happened with indies. Economists and suits thought the market would>"implode" due to a "supply shock"I don't think these words mean what you think they mean...
What's more likely to happen is some Open Source model like deepseek comes out that eats gemini/chatgpt's lunch and people crash out of gigacorp investment.This will make chips more expensive for a bit because everyone can run the models, but will stop the single source of demand.
>entire world economy about to go to shit thanks to tech bros
>>730741879Gold is stupid, it's heavy and doesn't come it all colours like our well cherished money made by banks©®. Keep our money and store it with us and don't buy gold, that's only for us.
>>730733343A slightly higher electric bill is still cheaper than staffing and entire office and having to shell out tons of cash for medical for your staff
>>730741828This person understands
>>730741304You know that AI enemies are stupid and inaccurate on purpose right? AI that adapts and rapes your ass wouldn't fly. They are making ai coop bots and people are complaining that all it does is destroy coop with people, so it's worse than useless. Bioshock infinite had all you need from a companion. There are experimental games on steam with ai characters and it still doesn't work because instead of playing, people complain it's jarring because you can quickly see it wants you to do X to progress no matter what you say.
>>730741973this is NFTs on steroids
>>730741580>I could sit here and revisit its immorality, it's illegality under current copyright laws, its propensity for abetting forgeries and CP, its obvious lack of desirability to end users Those are all excuses to not use it. Every accusation is a confession with you people.>We actually don't have to accept it What does it mean to not accept it? I'm not saying you have to use it or consume it, I'm saying you can no longer prevent other people from doing so.
>>730732931>developers putting soulful effort into games again?Developers were not putting soulful effort into games for over a decade before the advent of mainstream A.I Generative tools. You're pathetically delusional if you think A.I caused the problems of a lack of creativity, originality and competent design we have had for so long before its arrival. You can't blame everything on the new guy.(A.I)
>>730733156I'm selling my stonks (Nvidia, Intel) this year. I'm already up 70% on Intel. Maybe I'll be selling the bottom of a new paradigm, but I just don't see a ROI on the trillion dollars spent on this coming from Sora cat videos or productivity gain from codemonkeys. Maybe I'm wrong and AI will solve nuclear fusion, allow time travel and serve me breakfast.
>>730742039I wonder how many of those LLM AI companions take time to decide and process where traditional NPC programing would railroad immediately into one function or another.
>>730741304For now we only really have AI in form of glorified T9. You can't really use that shit as a part of game logic, it's simply not worth it from any angle. You can see how well it does in games on Claude plays pokeymans or Neuro-sama streams (spoilers: very poorly) on top of requiring ridiculous amounts of processing power and time to learn.There were other game-specific neural networks like Alphastar but they too need gargantuan amounts of learning data to be at least proficent, not to mention adaptive, and you probably won't have the rig to run that shit.As it stands, the best way to do game AI is by hand, and it'll likely remain so for a very long time. Unfortunately nobody outside of select few autists tries to make anything interesting with the subjet, but it's also expected because actually good AI is pretty hard to do, and in more complex genres like RTS it goes into programming challenge territory.
>>730742112Sell every week and exit during summer
>>730742102>I'm saying you can no longer prevent other people from doing so.There are ways in which we can physically distance ourselves from you which I'm very keen on. For that matter, there doesn't have to be only one internet.
>>730732931Let’s imagine that AI “goes away.” Now the few people using AI are 1000x more productive than everyone else. You really think companies will just work at a disadvantage?>buh buh buh it’s slopIt’s a tool, the results depend entirely on the creator.
>>730741828this sir is right, and baseed
>>730733254>free and offlinenot gonna happen.the meta, and it has been so for over a decade, is to move most digital tools and solutions to service models.one of the reasons AI is so seductive to shareholders is that it basically only really makes sense as a cloud service that requires very expensive infrastructure to run and it's out of reach for most customers and small/medium companies.games as service is also a thing they are trying to shove up our ass for over a decade because of the same reason: recurrent, montly/yearly subscriptions are way more profitable and retentive than one time purchases.
>>730742324AI is a tool of aggregation, not creation.
AI doesn't go away but most websites just ban AI generated images outright. Even mentioning anything relating to an AI tool is a bannable offense. Lets say even 4chan implements this, its given more scrutiny than ponies, furfaggotry, /pol/ shit and worse. Would that appease you enough?
>>730742324Even if AI creators were all hacks, they can create at ultra-efficiency. Over time, it’s inevitable that the majority of media will incorporate AI in some capacity.
>>730732931AI isn't going to go away, it's probably just going to mostly be used for scientific shit once the bubble burst.>>730733156>money keeps being pumped into bubble>bubble keeps growing>invents a market>AI is for the modern audience!>wow look guy the market is so big for AI!>there is no market
>>730732931The bigwigs have bet everything on winning the race to AGI and they won't take a loss quietly, so either it never goes away or the human race goes with it. We are inexorably tied to AI now, unfortunately.
>>730742475So is Photoshop.
>>730742496>Would that appease you enough?If people want to use it then I want them segregated out entirely, not simply quartered on one website.
>>730742112As AI replaces more and more workers, it will eventually make it hard to make money with labor at all. Which will mean owning natural resources will be the only source of generating wealth. You're wise to get out now even it the bubble keeps growing and you should move your money into resource generating land.
>>730742445Except it's already a thing. Everyone and their mother on the porn boards has Stable Diffusion installed.
>>730742475Congratulations. You just replaced low to mid level white collar work.
>>730741971There is a good reason deepsneed never had a moment after its big breakout with r1, China is stuck in fast follow mode so OpenAI actually getting their release schedule un-fucked removed any chance for it to stand out like that again.
>>730742502>then we’ll just make ai illegalAre you going to ban media from all the countries that don’t give a fuck? What if Japan embraces it, tranny?
>>730742301Ok, cool.
>>730742324nearly every study not funded by the a.i. companies themselves has not found any significant increase in productivity from their use .
>>730742645this. anon didn't know what he was talking about.
>>730742109People don't know what happened few seconds ago
>>730742662Leftists hate AI because they have makework email jobs and aren’t creative enough to surpass AI.
>>730742324when will we see results of that 1000x productivity
>>730742475You are babbling complete idiocy. Personally I just use A.I generative tools to assist with character design so I can see what my design idea's might look like before passing them on to an Artist.
>>730742797Two more weeks
>>730742569It's not like those uses of Photoshop ever had a good reputation. It seems like you're looking for ways to lump things in with AI as though we can't have any nice things without it. Cope better.
>>730742797AI is already diffusing much faster than any other transformative tech in history.
>>730742716Human hallucinations
>>730742797When you get a job
>>730742797We already are. I did the music for a game and got the whole job done in a week by myself.
>>730742662Those jobs were inaccessible due to nepotism anyway. Should I feel loss for this?
>>730742825Who asked?>You are babbling complete idiocy.Not really.
>>730742893Artists have always defended those uses of Photoshop. They only hate AI because it doesn’t have a steep learning curve.
>>730742797Saar it's already the really goodening, I am CEO of Amazon and I make the drawings very fast now thanks to AI™ (please please please fund us!)
Where were the Artists when the workers were getting replaced by workers? They did not speak out because they were not Workers. Now they have come for the Artists, and there is no one left to speak out...
Can someone explain why faggots from r/antiai come here everyday spamming the same le ai is bad threads?
>>730732931So what's next? Like genuinely what comes after AI? Because I actually can't imagine a post AI world
You can tell when someone doesn't know what they are talking about when they just say "AI". They have this idea of a bogey man strawman they can direct all of their accumulated fear and ire at.
>>730743173robots doing our dishes and stuff while we make and play video games
>>730743114>the workers were getting replaced by workers?
>>730742797It’s already made a bunch of things obsolete>google search>meme generators>journalism>fanart commissions>programming boilerplates>/diy/>inane repetitious forum questions like “best PS2 games”
>>730743173Apocalyptic economical depression
>>730732931>When will AI go awayWhen we pop the bubble. Check the names of the companies who are responsible for the RAM shortages. See what products they have on the market. Make sure to spread bad word of mouth for hose products. Create negative memes for those products. Spread bad worth of mouth for those products. Break their back. Destroy them at every level. POP THE BUBBLE!
>>730743254Yeah but that's still just AI isn't it?
>>730742797If anything productivity hasn't recovered since covid.Everyone just forgot to work those four years.
Light bulb bubble will eventually collapse, and then the wax and candles prices will go back to normal. Generated artificial room lighting will disappear.When do you think light bubbles will go away and we can have candle sellers putting soulful effort into home lightning again?
>>730732931not before it crashes the economy
>>730743173Super bad recession at first, then either:>fully automated luxury communism if it is aligned to humanity, go read The Culture by Ian Banks for examples>swift death if it is misaligned since basically any goal structure and AI can have probably does NOT intersect with human survival if stretched to infinityAlignment is something you must get right on the first try, because there is no 2nd chance with superhuman AI.
>>730743374>Yeah but that's still just AI isn't it?No it isn't the same way LLMs and stable diffusion isn't AI either. It's just machine learning hyped as something else.
>>730743440So all we need to do is crash the US economy? I think we can arrange that.
>>730743545Machine learning and deep learning AI.LLMs are AI.Stop conflating all forms of AI that have been around for decades with the strong sense of AGI.
>>730743413Street shitting is the future you luddite, it's a way to relieve yourself like the sink, toilet users are just coping they're becoming obsolete.I'm a professional street shitter, I can now defecate in 30 minutes instead of wasting half an hour on the toilet. The anti-street shitting propaganda have just gone too far, if street shitting is so bad, why are big companies in India doing it?
>>730743374Oh did you mean like what will the next investment thing be? AI is the end game of tech, really. I guess you could imagine biotech rising up but that's basically just another branch of AI.
