What went so wrong?Bravely second was amazing gameplay wise, but bd2 is step down even compared to the first game
>>730738156>what do you mean i have to use different tactics every now and then
when you play it you realize it was a 3ds game and somewhere like 75% completion they decided to transition into consoles failing miserably.
>>730738156not having any of the original team members come back to make it was "what went so wrong". Like the people who made 2 literally had no idea what made 1 work at all. the easiest example is the fucking speed based turn order and how badly it interacts with things like brave, default, and turn based skill durations.
>>7307381564 Warriors of Light was traning wheels for BD which itself was training wheels before Octopath which itself was a proof of concept that led to the actual magnum opus thay is Octopath 2.Bravely Second already was a dumpster fire that proved Bravely should have never gone beyond one game.Also I pulled that first paragraph out of my ass someone fact check me.
>>730738156I liked it.
>>730738156BD and Second are fucking great and the entire issue with Second and how BD2 became such a fucking mess in entirely because of the Japanese market.apparently, the version of Second that was released in Japan has a gameplay disaster. the main issue was you had to complete the game twice to have played every class and get the good ending. the other issue with, fucking strangely, the moonrunes thought the gameplay was "too much the same" as BD. so, Bravely Default 2 is what it is. >>730740834picrel
>>730738156How come they don't make a good Bravely game?I feel like the first few were kind of interesting but not quite there. But if they had kept iterating and improving they might have made a good game at some point
Is it bad? I almost bought it last night glad I dodged that bullet if so
>>730738156>Bosses just have random FUCK YOU counters if you dare use anything but the specific job combo the devs wantAbsolutely retarded fucking design that punishes you for using the job system. It's like they missed what made the first two games so great
>>730741659Yes. The game constantly punishes you for using the jobs they don't want you to use for that specific fight
I enjoyed it. Bravely Default has the strongest cast of characters but the weakest gameplay. Bravely Second improved on the gameplay but squandered the story and characters. Bravely Default 2 has the most balanced gameplay of the 3 and the characters + story are decent. I understand the cast getting compared to the first game and saying it's a downgrade but it's overblown. It's been a long time since I played it but I still remember some of the interesting chapters like the crazy Painter girl and the city being completely suppressed by a sacrificial cult. It's by no means a bad game.
>>730741659Fights are just not fun somehow, and counters are jsut purely annoying
>>730738156>what went wrongAre you asking this for real or just baiting? What went fucking wrong? How about the middle finger they showed to original fans just so they could attract zoomers. That isn't enough for you?
>>730741659I don't think it's that bad if you didn't get attached to characters from the cancelled universe.
>>730743380>ust so they could attract zoomers>bd2From all square nu games, you really want to say that about fucking bd2?If anything, zoomers would have loved faster battles of second
It's amazing, BS is the only misstep and it's not even that bad
The original concept for Bravely Second sounded like the best jrpg in the universe>3 musketeers + hot female action girl D'Artagnan
How would salvage the Bravely franchise at this point?Hard mode: no "make Bravely Third centered on Ringabel"
Thinking that it was ok to make players redo the same bosses 6 or more times to get to the ending. If I already quit your game because it dragged on for no reason I'm not playing a sequel.
>>730743518Nigger, they literally said that they are restarting the story and universe just so they new players don't get confused.
>>730743641You can't.
>>730743728Nothing wrong with that, dragon quest and final fantasy do that all the gamesWhy the fuck would you want jrpg to set in same world again, and again, and again....are you underage by chance?
>>730743641Edea's fat ass bouncing on Ringabel's cock is literally the only way they can save this franchise.
>>730742274Only person who actually played the game itt
>>730743870Why? Because the previous 2 games were in the same universe and the second game ended with hinting the 3rd game?It's absolutely the same as with DMC4 to DmC Donte.
>>730743892>>730742274Second's OST hurt my ears whenever Revo's reused songs weren't on and the HARDCORE ELECTRIC GUITARS kept blowing out.Nikolai and Janne seriously should've been part of the main group. Tiz and Edea were utterly unneeded and I'm pretty sure the narrative was also rewritten and took a nosedive when they replaced Niko and J in the final game due to popularity vote.
>>730742274>and the characters + story are decent.It's literally the only bravely game where you keep wondering why male self insert even exist and what's his fucking point... Kinda like ff12, when they added male protag just because
>>730744214Seth's pretty much the audience surrogate for the characters to relay info about the world to and him being the Wind Crystal's Chosen One meant he could fill out a slot among the Heroes of Light and kill two birds with one stone.At least he had more agency than Tiz and Yew.
>>730741509When I played Second I accidentally played through half the game in NG+ because I thought that was what you were supposed to do. It's actually impressive how many little pieces of dialogue there are through the game where, if you're playing for the second time, they seem to be encouraging you to keep going. They'll say like "we might not understand why we're doing this, but we have to keep going until the end!". But it turned out you weren't supposed to do that at all. I could imagine a lot of Japanese players getting confused by it especially if they were playing a version without all the patches SE did.
>>730742274>Bravely Default 2 has the most balanced gameplay of the 3You mean the most castrated. The prevailing design philosophy throughout was no fun allowed. >I just killed a powerful overworld enemy many levels above me by the skin of my teeth using strategy and got its strong equipment!Too bad the weight system means it's useless to you until you're at the appropriate level anyway lol.>Lets stack buffs and have my units attack in concertlolno everyone goes at their own speed, btw your speedy character burned through all 3 turns of their defense buff before the enemy got a turn so they died through default lmao >I want to do (action)lol get countered >ok, then I guess this character will just use ite-lol get countered >late game I want to do (literally anything from the battle menu)lol get counteredRather than steamroll the game with high level/maxed out early game jobs (a natural consequence of staying in the same job) I liked to switch around, try new things, and every single boss battle there was some trigger for the boss to go "nuh uh I win" which just made me go back to my maxed out job and instantly stomp the boss instead. Very dumb system and people defending it disingenuously pretend I just wanted to spam godspeed strike when really what happened is getting pigeonholed back to my strongest jobs and going from being mangled by counters to killing the boss easily.
