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OGfags never recovered from this.
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Why are retarded millennials obsessed with graphics?
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>>730748289
>OG: faraway continents full of mystery
>R: some rocks you can't land on and Genshin style zones to collect chests in
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>>730748381
retards are always susceptible to shiny things
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The rocks in the distance look better in OG
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Raped
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>>730748289
>OG
Why do you talk like this?
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>>730748289
giant swords are so fucking stupid
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All FF7 stuff after the original game is fanfiction.
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>>730748289
Art direction vs ai slop
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>$60 in 1997
>$69.99 + $14.99 + $69.99 + $14.99 + $79.99 (unreleased) + jpeg casino + some other multimedia tie-in intermission slop I don't give a shit about (does not include $39.99/$49.99 compilation re-releases that are referenced as required reading for 7R)
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I cannot fathom that there are people who partake in society, who I possibly interact with daily that are so despicable, so subhuman as to consider the remake abomination acceptable in any way, let alone an improvement over the original.
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>>730748289
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>>730748507
From a gameplay perspective, it helps convey that the character is mainly for physical attacks, but juxtaposed against the ridiculous attempt to make the character seem grounded and realistic outside of gameplay, yes the enlarged sword does look out of place and lacking in cohesion.
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>>730748289
I'll take the one without the time ghosts shit and the well paced story, thanks.
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>>730748867
nuh uh, YOU are going to get gosh shenanigans and YOU are going to like it!
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>>730748289
Apple spinning chads take the left
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>>730748289
realism isn't interesting or artistic in the slightest
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>>730748289
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>>730748697
>$60
Nope, new full priced PS1 games were $40. Within a year they usually went down to $20.
I rember FF7 being $20 when FF8 released.
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>>730748289
I have never played either, going to start with the remaster and drop the OG halfway through just to piss off my fellow uncs
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>>730748987
S O U L
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>>730748381
for the same reason retards hate EV’s even though the internal combustion engine is the equivalent of an old locamotive and all cars are clearly heading there
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>>730748987
kino
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>>730748289
actual rpg with soul vs devil may cry/kingdom hearts slop disguised as a final fantasy game
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>>730749009
Well put
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>>730748381
Chilrdhood is being impressed by techinical graphics fidelity.
Adulthood is appreciating art direction.
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>>730748697
>$60 in 1997
35 hours
>$69.99 + $14.99 + $69.99 + $79.99
150+ hours
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>>730748289
Rebirth is so fucking ugly. The third turd is going to look over a decade old too, which is hilarious.
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>>730748987
I wish pre-rendered scenarios would have never gotten out of favor, you could have worked to just make the model adapt more to the pre-rendered graphics and the game would have look amazing from here until the year 3000
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>>730748987
I miss matte backgrounds more than you could ever imagine
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>>730749009
kek
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>>730748867
>and the well paced story, thanks.
sorry we dont have that
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>>730749242
>1997
35 hours of content
>2026
20 hours of content (pending the rest of the game being released for another chunk of cash) and 150+ hours of padding
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>>730749250
yep this trilogy was a retarded idea

>>730749009
demakefags btfo
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This might be one of the clearest examples of SOUL/SOULLESS I've seen yet.
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>>730748697
Just don't buy obvious scam games? Idk I just don't care about this anymore
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>>730749009
>infinite wonder
?

>endless drudgery
???
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>>730749242
>actually praising padding
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>>730749401
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>>730748289
One of the most memoriable parts of FFVII was when you leave Midgar, see the world map, and that most KINO music starts playing. Probably one of the best FF songs of all time.

How does the FFVII Remake handle that?
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>>730749452
>top
>some mish mash thing that doesnt make sense for zoomers that need light

>bottom
>an actual elevator
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>>730749482
not only that but being okay with paying for it
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>>730749452
soul vs soulless has never been more real
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>>730749452
even the gold saucer in the remake is soulless I-pod sleek crap
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>>730749452
grok pass this through a crt filter
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>>730749674
true
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>>730749401
retard
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>>730749552
not well at all
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>>730749597
I don’t play Final Fantasy for realism.
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>>730748697
damn
guess games really should cost 120 bucks
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>>730749907
nah. companies should be reducing the price to help consumers afford things, not vice-versa. they'll never do this ofc
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Everything involved with the Compilation is such fucking garbage. This remake* especially.

*sequel
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>forcing my way through FFVII remake
>only surviving by the grace of coomer mods for Tifa and Aerith
>get towards the escape from Midgar
>finally, the pain is over, the end is in sight
>game starts going full ham on the retarded Halloween ghost shit, you have to pass through some portal or something to prove yourself
>fuck it, I'll do it later, turn off game
>never boot it back up again
>uninstall it 2 months later

What retarded faggot thought it was a good idea to stretch Midgar into a painfully bloated, drawn out, unbelievably slow single game?
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>>730750076
>>forcing my way through FFVII remake
you are probably retarded so nothing else to say
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>>730750076
I dropped the game during the underplate bit, right after the subway section. Boring bloated, and ugly piece of shit.
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>>730749452
this is just sad
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Quietly waiting for the weird guy who is obsessed with persona and sega to dump his "turn based boomer trannies" images and replying to himself for the 500th time in this thread
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>>730749552
>How does the FFVII Remake handle that?
That was also mind blowing for me as a kid but Rebirth kind of lacks the same wow factor when you first step foot out into the world. You start the game off with the party in Kalm hearing/playing Cloud's story.
I think there is a scene in Intergrade (Remake) that shows them leaving Midgar toward Kalm, I didn't play that though. Given the format change, I think they realised they'd never capture that same impact of the Main Theme drop.

Still highly recommend the games, Rebirth does a great job of capturing the "feel" of FF7 better than Remake
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>>730749452
the samefag over this is sad
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>>730749338
This.
A 300 hour game is no fun if 270 of those hours are boring shit.
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>>730750181
what a weak retort
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>>730749452
Very gay
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Biggest Demake moment for me is when the Tifa flashback randomly happens in the middle of an action scene
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>>730749842
>replying to such weak and obvious bait
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>>730750505
it doesnt happen "randomly". It is supposed to trigger by itself by making cloud be more connected to himself and to tifa.
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>>730750505
for me it's sephiroth showing up right after the first reactor bombing
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>>730750338
>>730750181
>>730749770
How you holdin up big fella?
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>>730749842
you are right, tifa should be an androgynous thing and not a busty woman, we dont want realism
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>>730749452
Demaketroons never living this one down.
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>>730748289
They hired that man
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>>730748289

How does it feel to keep losing in art direction against a game from 97 despite having a 30 year advantage in technological advancements? Seriously, the original FF VII flex so hard on it´s expanded universe that it´s unreal.
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>>730750602
how is me calling that clueless demake retard a retard like the other two replies?
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>>730748289
No panties? bad game
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>>730750602
no need to show me how butthurt you are, sameanon
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>>730748289
we'll not even mention the stupid time jannies
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>>730750602
retard
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>>730750686
>How does it feel to keep losing in art direction against a game from 97 despite having a 30 year advantage in technological advancements?
does it?
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I saw the procedurally generated npcs and immediately knew not to touch the demakes
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>>730750181
It's hard to disagree with that. You probably have to have some mental disabilities to get as far as I did without quitting. I expect most normal people just quit after 1-2 hours after realizing how much of a massive waste of time shitfest the game is.

Admittedly Tifa's ass was a good motivator.
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>>730750854
>It's hard to disagree with that.
the game has some slow parts like the og but its not "a pain" to go through unless you are genuinely retarded.
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>>730750854
I quit at the 11h, just after finding aerith, it was just too much for me
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>>730750852
I waited to see how they handled Aerith's death before touching the trilogy and I'm glad I didn't waste my time or money.
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>>730750686
They get their "artistic" headpats from corporate media regardless. I don't think they consider themselves artistic failures in any way. These times often lend themselves to thinking along the lines of, "If you pissed your audience off, that means you've transcended the medium."
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>>730751045
man that was fucking bad
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>>730750852
The ones that look like they're straight out of Sonic '06? Yeah, that was a bit of a red flag.
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>>730749452
This image helped me realise that 7R has its own Barry.
If you love 7R, fine, defend it when it's criticized. But what I noticed is certain people can't let you away with anything negative. Nothing. If you like the new story and the new comabt and hell even the time jannies, okay, make your case. But the fact that there's someone who can't stand to see the old elevator praised and the new one disliked is how I knew some people had just gone to the extreme with their overdefensiveness.

Because I've seen fucking ESSAYS written about how the old design makes no sense and the new one is PRACTICAL (who the fuck ever cared about practicality in FINAL FANTASY before where rule-of-cool reigns supreme?) and they were serious. I don't know how much they really believed it, but the bottom line was clearly if the OG was praised and the remake was insulted, they HAD to step in and make clear everyone was WRONG to do so.

Personally, I'd say "yeah the elevator in the OG was cooler, but 7R is still good for these other reasons" but they can't do that. They literally cannot. Your big criticism of 7R? WRONG. Your tiny criticism of 7R? WRONG.

Similarly, Barry couldn't let you say anything bad about XV, big or small. And if you asked him what flaws, even tiny ones, XV had, he sure as shit wouldn't admit to any. He'd just start crying about Nathan or something.
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>>730750916
Millions disagree
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Anal Fantasy 7 was never good
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I'm tired of this board being infested with loud obnoxious underage retards. Millenials and older only, people who got into gaming before it went mainstream only, fuck off normalfags.
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>final saartasy
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>>730749159
>all cars are clearly heading there
>over 50 years of continuous EV development
>over a decade of heavy government subsidies
>countless companies all fighting to fill this supposed new market with the promise that new ICE vehicles will be outlawed in the near future
And STILL
>no widespread adoption
>US power grid can't even support widespread adoption
>extremely limited options
>high prices
>virtually no resale value, older models are worthless
>general maintenance difficulties
>battery range decreases with time even on the most expensive cars
>still outperformed by hybrids in virtually every way
>STILL SUFFERING FROM PUBLIC CHARGING STATION ISSUES
There is nothing sadder than an EV shill.
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>>730748289
SOULFUL IMAGINATION
vs
soulless realism
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>>730751179
>If you love 7R, fine, defend it when it's criticized. But what I noticed is certain people can't let you away with anything negative
whats the difference
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>>730751380
SOVL
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>>730751380
How many of these are real likenesses ripped illegally from photographs they looked up online?
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>>730749159
I was not expecting cute Beach Kanna in this thread but I’ll gladly take it!
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>>730751393
Cars make less noise next to me when i walk to work and that's nice.
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>>730749242
>>730749338
Less
is
More
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>>730751431
That you can't give an inch. You can't say "yeah OG did that small thing better but I like how 7R..." etc
Which I already explained but you decided to be selective to try claw back a win without refuting anything. So I'll just repeat myself. Nice try though.
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>>730751179
I dont think you understand the situation right here.
If you are gonna be this petty >>730749452 over such a meaningless and superfluous shit then theres gonna be someone who, through similar criticizing/praising, will show you how stupid you sound.
It is that simple.

Do you think the people replying to the same stupid pic are "mmm, OG is good but 7r is slightly less good"? No. No they are not, they are doing exactly what you are complaining about.
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I wish the gameplay from 7R wasn't tied to a remake and instead was an original FF game. I couldn't stomach the story for more than like 10 hours
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>>730750916
Yeah, I just love wasting like 5 hours on some random side plot that has no meaning to the story because Square got too greedy and had to pad the game to turn it into a trilogy. The annoying laughing faggot on a bike is surely the highlight of the entire Final Fantasy series.
A true masterpiece. It's so great having EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN SECTION in the game massively overstay it's welcome with lazy copy pasted level design.
I love having the story completely interrupted every few hours by some random Harry Potter ghosts for some bullshit sequel nonsense nobody asked for or wanted.
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>>730751503
why do you care? does it really bother you that much?
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>>730751687
>Yeah, I just love wasting like 5 hours on some random side plot that has no meaning to the story
when does this happen? you are always doing something related to the story and the events
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we should never have gone beyong PS2 tier graphics, technical restrains were good actually
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I'm tired of people on /v/ of all places defending things ever. You should not be posting here if a single cunt hair being out of place doesn't make you shit yourselves in primal fury. I miss when this place had standards and would go fucking ballistic over the slightest of things, not this wave of faggots who praise nothing but raw sewage.
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>>730751623
You're proving my point. You can still love 7R and say "yeah the new elevator is boring" but you won't. You can't. You HAVE to say it doesn't matter, that everyone is complaining about nothing. You're mad at them instead of just shrugging and saying "yeah, but whatever"
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>>730748289
the original does a better job of scale, it abstracts the space while the remake needs to make the space representative, making the world feel more compact and close together because what used to feel like an extended journey across a large space is actually just a short jaunt from one town to another.

Why games have mostly abandoned world maps baffles me, it's such an easy way to make your world feel larger than it really is
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>>730751841
>You're proving my point.
surely so, man.
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ff7 had soul
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>>730751751
What would be a valid criticism of 7R?
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So far I have replied to every single post critical of 7R in this thread to tell the poster they're wrong. I resent the accusation that I'm anything like Barry.
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>>730751787
You shouldn't try do posts like this when you're mad because you're bad at hiding it.
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>>730752037
Kys Barry
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>>730748381
Didn't millenials grow up with OG FFVII?
I at least did and despise nu-FF so much it isn't even funny
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>>730751878
Okay, what are some criticisms of 7R you're ok with?
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>>730751074

That´s a problem in an on itself. Artists need to to be conscious of their actual skills even if they are too prideful to ever admit the truth because only self awareness leads to progress.

Any artist worth it´s salt will always think their own work is shit and that they need to improve.
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>>730751757
I really do feel this way. Games got too bloated after the PS2 era, that era was the perfect balance between technical restraints and freedom to realize a vision for game.
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>>730748987
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>>730751179
They didn't waste any time proving you right
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>>730748289
right unironically looks ugly as shit, i don't get how this look became the norm beyond cod kids. even small franchises like doa threw their style away for shitty pseudo realism i hate modern video games
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>>730751787
They're not interested in how good the game is, they are claiming board territory so they can have their comfythreads. All generals must do this. There's no argument happening, you're just bullying the weird kids and they're fighting back.
I think they're messed up too, they use all the dirtiest tactics and have no honor but it's a ruthless war here on the boards.
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>>730751751
>when does this happen?
That whole Jessie sub-plot? Where you go on a pointless adventure to get different explosives that changes nothing in the story because Jessie feels guilty of something we already know she didn't do.

We didn't need an entire chapter for that.
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>>730748289
looks like someone poured concrete in the water
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>>730752538
So in other words they are an invasive force and the jannies should be permabanning them on sight? Gotcha.
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>>730751787
I think it's ok to like something even if it has flaws, like I still like how the remakes play combat wise, but you gotta also be able to recognize flaws and such you know? blind hatred is just as stupid and useless as blind praise, gotta be critical in examining a thing for what it is instead of just shitting on or heaping praise on it with 0 nuance.
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>>730752712
7R really showed its hand with that faggotry
>ackshually we're the good guys because Shinra blew themselves up
>and the things AVALANCHE did do were actually carried out by a different team of guys that were never introduced or even hinted at, and who are never seen or heard from again
It's the most Fisher Price pre-school trash imaginable, you could not make it more of a pussyfoot fanfiction shitshow even if you tried.
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>>730751691
Yeah. It's shady and violative on a billion-dollar scale. The fact that it's yet another scam opportunity for Hindus is almost a superfluous reason to despise it given the circumstances. Almost.
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>>730751552
That's nice anon but it doesn't change anything
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>>730752712
changing shinra to be the ones that blew up the reactor is a little dumb but let's not act like dramatic irony is a bad thing now. What matters is that she thinks she did it, and how she feels about it, letting you explore the conflicted nature of eco terrorists fighting for what they think is right.
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>>730753187
>They went full botw with it
LMAO
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>>730748289
>OGfags never recovered from this.
left has soul
right is just bryce 5
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>>730752896
that's true, but if you give people an inch they take a mile
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>>730753187
>Square in 1997
>We have to step out of our comfort zone and try new things, because that's the only way to captivate an audience in such a competitive market
>Square in 2026
>Everything has to be an amorphous blob of tried-and-true market trends, don't take risks or try new things ever, just cut corners as much as possible and spend $300m infesting every single facet of human existence with commercials
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>>730752371
This becomes more true every passing second.
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>>730753326
god damn this is like 90% of the slums and 90% of the world map in viir
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>>730752814
Jannies are paid not to care...no really. Memes aside they have mods and jannies on payroll to allow raids while disallowing counterraids. Consider why we aren't allowed to organize anything anymore.
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>>730753132
Stop making excuses. Its bad writing PERIOD. We exist in the era where Advent Children made more in universe/character sense than the current sequels.
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have they even announced Rebirth sales like they did with Remake?
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>>730753724
I swear they just hate this site anymore. There was a REALLY funny and on topic Truman Show thread on /tv/ last night that, of course, got autosaged at random while off topic garbage is left on the catalog.

>>>/tv/217305247
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>>730753187
>ubishit chores

just what FF7 was missing
why couldn't they just make an overworld with large enemies in land sea and sky like Lost Odyssey or E33?
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>>730749452
>>730749642
This came to mind
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>>730750183
oh yeah that underplate bit was fucking awful
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>>730752191
oh big surprise, you were THAT one
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>>730752975
It's kind of ironic. Since Cloud and gang has pretty much become the face of Square Enix and Final Fantasy they have to be treated with so much care, so they end up losing a lot of the roughness that made them beloved in the first place.

Sort of how Disney killed Mickey Mouse with blandness since he became the face of the company and they had to replace him with the now much more loved Donald Duck.

>>730753132
Yeah, but we didn't need an entire damn chapter about it. We know she's not responsible so it's now like we as players are especially emotionally invested in her "redemption ark" to begin with. We have already been reminded that Shinra is bad because every single line of dialogue from Barret is just "Shinra bad". You could pretty much achieve everything important in this chapter with a 3 minute cutscene and it would have been 3 times as impactful since it would have less fat guy pizza jokes.
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>>730749842
Do you play it for the Fantasy?
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>>730754175
I spotted you first and knew you'd prove me right if I asked. Because much like Barry, the thought of letting a single criticism go unstomped would keep you up at night. You really are very like him.
Now chop chop, I see other negative posts that need to be dealt with.
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>>730748289
from coastal islands that tried despite the limitations to lumps of coal, bravo
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>>730749242
>"i LOVE padding!"
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>>730749159
I hate EVs because they're too quiet.
When I'm stumbling home drunk I wanna hear the cars coming.
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>>730751924
>>730752191
No answer? I guess >>730751179 was right
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>>730752814
Maybe you're right but i'd rather have sick fucks capable of breathing FF7 gas for 30 years straight rather than anons capable of fitting into society.
Critical discussion still happens when new media is released, points are made, critics depart unto other topics and the lovers remain to repaint the walls with cum.
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>>730753346
I mean what exactly are you going to do about it man? call people mean names until they leave? If gatekeeping was possible on /v/ the board wouldn't be the cess pool it is now
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I'd rather have a generally quick play to play like DMC games, then play some bloated cinematic mess that is FFVIIR.
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>>730753826
what about it is bad? the pacing is probably the worst part about that whole aside because it's just trying to drag out a shorter section of game into a full game
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>>730748289
OGfag here, both games are spectacular and I love them both
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>>730755064
Thank you SO much for this
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>>730755064
>OG
>fag
But you repeat yourself.
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i like both
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>>730752896
I only shit on games i like and i want to share my way of life. I more i love a game the more i enter threads about it and post long rants about how it sucks since i played the game a lot and know all of its flaws. I ignore threads about games i don't like. I blog too.
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>>730748289
SOVL/soulless
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>>730755141
Thank you... thank you!
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>>730749452
soul vs soulles at its purest form
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I vividly remember my dad walking into the house from the garage Christmas of 1997 with a playstation, FF7, a demo disk with Intelligent Qube (don't know why I remember that in particular, but it was kino) and Tekken 3. One of the best days of my life
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>>730749009
Based
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>>730752371
Hitchcock I fucking kneel.
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remake was kino and I'm tired of pretending it's not
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>>730748289
Left looks objectively better, look at the beautiful purple in the sky, very artistic unlike the unreal asset flip on the right
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When is the best FF game gonna get a remake? Not a REMASTER, a REMAKE
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>>730755149
I don't shit on games I like but I do love to call out Barry level fanboyism when I see it. But you do you, son.
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>>730748289
Reelism more gooder!!!!!
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>>730755689
You should do it like me. I consummate love for a game while playing it and then i complain about my girlfriend with my good friend anon. I fuck videogames.
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>>730755686
>grizzled, jaded old man character that has seen everything already
>he's like 33
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>>730754391
look at you go! >>730755180
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>>730755879
to be fair he has been technically dead for like 10+ years and watched his best friend get slaughtered in front of him, so I'm guessing that ages you up pretty quickly
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>>730755686
Final Fantasy 4 got a remake already on DS.
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>>730755686
>Heh... Sono teido ka?
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>>730756018
was it good? Never played the 3d version. I think FF3 got that same treatment too
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>>730748289
A New Threat and custom models shits on both.
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>>730756097
I'm usually not a fan of mods for older games, but NT and the ninostyle mods are fucking phenomenal, the ideal way to replay the game imo
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the original looked like shit even for a ps1 game
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>>730748289
I played the og FF7 for the first time about 5 years ago, no spoilers. One of the best games I've ever played. Ugly models but everything else holds up
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>>730755910
And look at you not post a criticism! Don't worry, I know it would kill you. The downside is it means you've proven me right yet again.
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>>730748436
OP never addressed your post. Curious.
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>>730748381
>why are retarded genx fahs so obsessed with NES graphics? The Atari 2600 is good enough
>t.boomer
They never change.
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>>730748793
Absolutely based. All fans of remakes are secondaries by default + they are homosexuals.
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>>730756604
ok and?
>y-your a secondary
ok and?
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>>730756397
that's awesome you got to experience that unspoiled so late after release. Any other PS1 jarpigs you're interested in checking out afterwards?
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Can someone explain to me why the decided to just transfer the materia and stats from Cloud's sword to a parasol for a fight that you're supposed to lose anyways?
The HP of the boss is locked until Yuffie arrives and does some ninja magic (which she didn't have in OG).
Why wouldn't you just do shit damage without any skills until Yuffie arrives who does her thing (steal stuff) and gives you your items/materia?
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I'm jealous of oldfags...they got to experience games when they were overflowing with pure sovl, before big megacorpos, fags and women corrupted them beyond recognition
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the orignal had some great prerendered backgrounds
https://imgur.com/gallery/ffvii-backgrounds-9JqPC
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>>730749053
No one gives a single shit about anything you do. If you died everyone would get over it extremely quickly.
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>>730756163
>the ideal way to replay the game imo
Definitely. To anyone who complains about not getting a proper remake, this is basically that. It can't get much better than artbook-models, or even the chibi option + what's essentially dlc, a shit ton of qol, and hardmode.
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>>730756813
10,000 indians were unable to recapture 1% of the soul
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>>730755608
i laughed to this so hard. I thought it was just some meme but she actually hits some goon with the chair
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>>730756689
I've downloaded parasite eve on emulator but haven't got around to playing it. also heard xenogears is good. I'm not a big JRPG guy, I've only played about 4 or 5, which is probably why I was able to avoid pretty much all the big spoilers
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>>730756808
There was always some kind of catch to it, though. Things haven't actually been "good" in our lifetime, though we have some glimpses of it which remind us that today's decadent world is extremely messed up.
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>>730748793
Dead Rising (2016 Steam release)
but yeah i agree 99.9% of the time this is indeed the case
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>>730748289
It is unironically far, far less impressive because it's no abstract overworld like the original. And if the remake is actually to scale, then it's really just some dumb, pointless rocks that aren't impressive. Instead of a larger landmass/island/continent.
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>>730754175
What one? Are you calling out your personal Nathan?
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>>730751179
It is honestly very strange to see people obsessively identify through a game like this.
I can, and do, criticize games I love(FFIX for example. Slow ass combat, rushed latter half, dropped storylines TETRA MASTER) so I cannot understand the delusions to the point you can't handle criticism of a video game made by an overseas corporation who doesn't even think about you.
The elevator thing makes me sad. Original FFVII had much better atmosphere and feel of dieselpunk proper. FF7R is too "clean" and "sterile". In other places as well.
Its same thing as Crash NST and Spyro Reignited. Devs kinda miss the point even when they copy the whole games. Atmosphere and artstyle are important.

I just hope people will learn to detach their own identity from entertainment products. It's okay to love a thing, but if you cannot see any flaws on it, you are on cult level of "our leader is perfect". Even worse if you get angry if someone prefers something else over it, especially if they prefer the original.
Imagine getting angry because someone likes original "You Spin Me Round" by Dead or Alive over some of the later covers. People would treat you like lunatic or genuinely mentally ill.
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>>730749009
>the entire coastline in Rebirth is an inlet
>t.retard
OP was right.
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>>730752371
>play vidya
>get urge to go hiking in a forest
Are you retarded?
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>>730757301
>I just hope people will learn to detach their own identity from entertainment products.
It's already detached. Corpos market to you based on what demo they think your're part of. So it's your identity up against the identity that's placed on you as part of a globalised aggregate. Guess which identity sticks to you throughout almost all social outcomes?

Things like this are a litmus test for who gets to exist in the monoculture of modern society. Suffice it to say, the results are very concerning.
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>>730755425
that isn't Hitchcock
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>>730757836
Your wrong
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>>730752371
Nothing on the right is even close to IRL, not that his point isn't valid because stylized art will always destroy realism. The visual clarity of every single example on the right is worse than real life, it's very easy for me to see depth and not be blinded by lens flares and weirdly dark areas of shadow IRL.
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>>730757184
He's trying not to because it's finally starting to sink in that he is in fact no different to Barry
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>>730752371
>snuck in ds2 on the left
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>>730756067
It's great. I think it realizes the original game's designs and art style in 3D wonderfully. It feels different from the original while being very faithful, a very solid remake. It's harder than the original too which is why I've never beaten it ;_;
It's on steam btw, althoug I can't vouch for the quality of the port
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>>730753187
Pump that Gasoline good Cloud
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>>730748289
When is the trailer for Part 3 releasing? I NEED IT!
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>>730758845
just let them cook, it's not coming out until Spring '28 anyway
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>>730748289
>OGfags never recovered from this.
And they never will.

We all know why.
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>>730761051
Why didn't you post the first half of the fight?
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Lmao
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>>730761051
>We all know why.
Yes.
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>>730749010
>Nope, new full priced PS1 games were $40
Smaller ones like Spyro or Crash Bandicoot were, big titles weren't, and especially not games that were on multiple disc, of which FF7 had 3.
On release, FF7 was $49.99, and its greatest hits/platinum version was $34.99.
>I rember FF7 being $20 when FF8 released.
you remember wrong, cause in 2000(one year after FF8 released), FF7 (OG, not GH) went down to $29.99, while the GH version went down to $19.99
>source
literal yearly catalogues you can look up online
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>>730750285
Took him a while but he's here now
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>>730748289
>Final Fantasy 7 is even better now
Based. Now I can play the game as I had always imagined in my mind.
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>>730751623
>I dont think you understand the situation right here.
>proceed to do the exact thing he was saying people do
i think he understood the situation quite clearly and you literally proved him right
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>>730761986
kek wrong pic
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>>730748436
Zoomers BTFO
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>>730761637
The gameplay/fun is trying to predict the opponent's strategy and counter in advance
>Should I use my first turn to buff my party or go straight into an attack?
>This enemy looks like a tree. I bet it’s weak to fire spells.
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>>730756397
I played it about 10 years ago and agree. The models are kind of charming though.
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>>730751393
anon you’re talking about a nation that decided to build a highway system instead of a public rail system to sell more gas and cars

we just gg ez’d venezuala for more oil like it’s 2003, there is a lot of money and power going around to keep you sucking down that dinosaur piss, and you fucking LOVE it don’t you you little lemming
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>>730761637
it’s be funnier with a d-pad too

gotta go through all those menus somehow
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>>730756097
Literally unplayable without idle animations and dynamic weapons...
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>>730748381
what's funny is that gen-x'ers were looking at the untextured, blocky as fuck Cloud model in 1997 and saying 'this is shit' (because for the time, it was.) We all appreciate the best of what we can get.
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>>730748289
First area was so good. Felt great to explore.

Then you get to the second area and realise all the quests and animations are copy and pasted. Exploring Junon was soul destroying
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>>730749159
sex with kanna
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>>730748793
The DS remakes of Dragon Quest 4-6 are objectively superior to the originals
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>>730748793
This needs to be pinned in every remake/remaster thread
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>>730762414
>0:05 enter combat
>0:10 combat screen finally loaded
>0:17 first attack
Wash, rinse repeat 1000 times. God damn I hate this shit.
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>>730756097
>Hi definition and polished character models and no effort at all in the background and world textures
How is this any different than the remastered versions of the PS1 trilogy
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>>730748436
>Flawless deep combat
>Great characters
>Great story
>Great art direction
>Great OST
>Waifus
>Good graphics
>Lots of content
>Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends
This is a 10/10 game
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Why the fuck do I have to do the stupid gym minigames several times?
It was stupid in Remake and they repeat this shit in Rebirth
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>>730748289
Open world, closed imagination. It's amazing just how small Rebirth made the world of FFVII feel, killing any sense of mystery of what the world that we don't get to see might be like. Give me the classic overworld any day.
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>>730748987

I WANT TO GO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>730748793
REMAKE isn’t a remake.
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>>730749452
I've never seen soul vs souless so clearly defined.
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>>730762698
As opposed to
>enter combat
>spam x to awesome for 45 seconds
>end combat
>rinse wash repeat 1000 times
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>>730748289
>More fun
>More content
>Complete game
>No filler
>No DEI
>No woke
Remakecels never recovered from this.
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>>730763206
>45 seconds
More like 3 seconds.
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>>730762728
The picrel is just that one replacement. I couldn't find any of my personal screenshots with the fields overhauled as well. You generally replace every texture when you mod it up. Audio too.
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>>730762414
What is the mod to get the battle menu to look like that?? I always hated how cramped the OG was and you had to press square just to see the health bar. Absolutely atrocious UI. The only thing the Remakes improved upon.
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>>730761051
>428 results
wew lad
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>>730748289
>OG
A far off piece of land you can actually go to.
>Remake
Some rocks in the water nearby you can't access.

Squeenix decided to make a shit game and split it into 3 parts. The original is better in every single way.
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VII Rebirth is a truly amazing video game and the completed FFVIIR trilogy will easily be considered just as enjoyable as the original FFVII was if not more so. Yes, less is sometimes more. The original is literally a timeless masterpiece. But I wouldn't trade my experience with FFVIIR for anything else in the world. The games have blown me away, and I can't wait to see what Part 3 has in store.
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>defend
>defend
>attack
>potion
>repeat
How can people do that for hours on end?
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>>73076269
>COMBAT starts!
>wait
>do nothing
>wait
>do nothing
>wait
>do nothing
>wait
>do nothing
>COMBAT SCREEN FINALLY LOADED!
>wait
>do nothing
>wait
>do nothing
>spam X
>spam X some more
>after 45 seconds you win!
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>>730763737
>people posting webms on 4chan??? I am literally going insane reeeeee
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>>730763854
>But I wouldn't trade my experience with FFVIIR for anything else in the world.
You need to play something other than square enix games. Please. I'm begging you to go see the world you insist has nothing else for you.
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>>730763854
Remakes are an absolute mess. Give it 10 years after FF7R3 comes out and they can do a remaster which combines them all to be somewhat coherent.
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>>730763995
I could not imagine posting the same shit over and over again. Then again, I'm not a schizo.
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>>730748289
Remake is based.
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>>730764054
>>730764078
I don't agree with either of your statements.
I've played a lot of good games and VII Rebirth is one of the very best ones in quite some time
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>>730764160
>I could not imagine posting the same shit over and over again
Bro, you are literally on 4chan
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>>730749452
bottom would be better if barrett were piping jessie as cuck tries to stay focused on the mission
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>>730764202
I thought it was mid. I bought a PS5 just to play it. I sold it soon after. Wish i just watched a youtube playthrough of it since it was practically just a movie anyway.
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>>730764325
Do you want a cookie?
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>>730755686
>FFX remake
>blitzball is either turned into a cutscene or a worse version of the X-2 manager minigame.
You know they'd do it because Blitzball is too based for modern sensibilities.
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>>730756817
i have a wife and two teenaged children

where’s your family fellow unc?
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>>730764202
You're enabling a very distasteful kind of low-grade pollution.
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>>730764434
>over 9000 mini games in Rebirth and every single mini game from the original is present plus a wealth of new ones that are even better than the original
>"nooooo they'd never be able to remake Blitzball"
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>>730764202
If it hit for you, then good. But let’s be honest-Rebirth is carried by nostalgia and spectacle. Once you scratch past the flashy cutscenes and big-budget coat of paint, there’s barely any risk-taking. Everything feels overly sanitized and bogged down by Nomura’s dementia-fueled alternate timeline fanfiction. It’s fun, sure-but calling it one of the “very best” just makes me think you need to play more daring games.
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>>730749159
ICE cars are cool though.
There's a reason EVs are always trying to pretend to be them.
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>>730764454
>"video game was good actually"
>schizo garbage rant from a 40 year old man crying about his PS1 video game being ruined

>>730764496
>MUH NOMURA!
Every single time.
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>>730749452
brutal
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>>730764238
I can be aware of the schizos here who spam their same webms for years and still lack the comprehension to do so. They are not mutually exclusive.
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>>730749053
You should play Remake, then the OG, then Rebirth.
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>>730764325
He can't accept you not liking it more
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Why do PCfags hate FF7?
FF7 Rebirth is not even in top 100 games by revenue on steam in 2025. Fucking Spiderman 2 is in top 100, but FF7 Rebirth is somehow not.
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>>730748793
It's hard to find an exception to this. Like when I play FF6, it's just hard to beat the original. The Pixel Remaster doesn't do it justice, plus no romhack compatibility. So no T-Edition.
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>>730764618
>Its all the same person !
Unironically you're not even aware of the biggest schizo here: you
Kek
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>>730753187

Once I started ignoring these dogshit 'sidequests' I had a much better time. There's a few sidequests that have decent story or character relevance but a majority of it is mobile-game tier shit.
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>>730764661
I was counting on PCfags to buy millions of copies and destroy all the negativity around it, but they let me down. Now I'm hoping switch 2 owners will save us.
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>>730764618
>there is a single person publishing everything I don't like on the internet
holy schizo
holy reddit too
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>>730764496
100% agree. To be fair Rebirth started out strong. But yeah, once you see it for what it is it quickly falls apart. The new mysterybox slop story also gets overwhelming. I wish they just made a remake that was an actual remake.
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>>730748289
For me, it's riding around the world with two hot Japanese babes in bikinis by my side riding on Chocobos with their bare feet out. Yes, the original game is amazing and I will always cherish it. Music, atmosphere, storytelling, monster/character designs, they are timeless.

But Rebirth is also amazing and I will always cherish it for many of the same and for many completely different reasons. The combat system, the exploration, the dedication to numerous forms of interactivity, all those mini games, the deep character interactions, the deep party synergy system, the beautiful and heart warming dialogue, the exceptional voice acting, etc etc etc.

tldr; OG and VIIR both have their own pros and cons to the experience and you should play them both!
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Zoomers will never understand old graphics because they've been glued to a screen for their entire lives. They've never had to have an imagination, never had to fill in the blanks. They never had to wait three minutes for a nude playboy jpg to download on a 56k modem, they never had to watch the Spice channel to bust a nut. Everything has been intensely visual for them since the moment their parents put an ipad in their hands during infancy.
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>>730752371
>that DS2 sneak
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>>730765004
Based FF7 enjoyer.
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>>730765191
I grew up with "retro" gaming. NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, PS1, PS2. The first video games I remember falling in love with Soul Calibur 1 at the arcade and Crash Bandicoot and Final Fantasy VIII on the PS1. I love old graphics.

I also absolutely adore new graphics. Visual spectacle has always been a major staple of video games and it's retarded to claim otherwise. They spent $100 million in 1997 money to make FFVII and it was all about the spectacle.

The fact of the matter is, you're just jaded. You don't like new graphics because you're old and bitter.
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>>730764496
>But let’s be honest-Rebirth is carried by nostalgia and spectacle
which one is it?
it is nothing like the original or it is the origianl therefore it gives you nostalgia?
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>>730765310
I just love me Final Fantasy.
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>>730763707
AavockESUI with some stuff disabled (like the avatars in field/battle text boxes and expanded icons). You need Enhanced Stock UI as well for the mod to work.
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>>730765391
Either way that guy is going to regret saying he didn't like it, we can be sure of that
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>>730748289
After this shit in first part of Remake, I had absolutely no interest in touching future installments.
Almost none of the new shit in Remake was in any way good, and yes, I realize they wanted to pad out Midgar, but fuck, it really did not fill me with confidence.
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>>730765481
Why do you think people disagreeing with you about FF is some sort of personal attack?
If someone says "I disagree with your negativity actually, video game is good", why would you take it personally? Why not just debate your thoughts/ideas freely instead of mocking the concept of discussion?
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>>730748289
Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core looked better than the Re:Make.
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>>730764496
>you need to play more daring games.
>daring games
kek
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>>730765391
Characters use the same name, even tho Cloud went from cold hearted mercernary guy in OG to super hero loved by all in the demake
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>the remakes cant be that ba-ACK!
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>>730765591
Hey, well done, you got the point I was making!
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>>730765663
>cold hearted mercernary guy in OG
you really need to replay the og
"cold hearted mercenary" my ass, or what, did you forget how Cloud behave throught remake?
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>>730765674
All the FF7 extended universe content past to original game is so stupid that it it's hard to believe that original game was so concise and well put together.
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FFVII Remake is so fucking based for shitting all over pathetic stinking old fags and shattering their shallow, bitter minds for years and years.

Thank you, based Nomura. FFVII Remake would have meant nothing without you.
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>>730765674
all this shit?
not canon
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I really love the new story.
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>>730765781
The limitations meant they had to be selective, so they only put in the best ideas. Remove that limitation and you can put in hundreds of shit ideas, because why not? If you worked on ff7 you must be a genius and all your ideas must be great
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>>730765812
>kills Final Fantasy 7
>Thank you based Nomura!
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>>730748381
Because they lack substance
Its why they love gacha and ai slop, its all flashy material slop
The original is a heavy story with mature themes presented in the times medium in full earnest
The new one is a soulless member berry of a fart poisoned by meta wanking
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>>730765591
Hey, quality discussion fan, aren't you going to give >>730765812 a talking to?
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>>730748381
aphantasia and no inner monologue
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>>730748289
Metaphor is better.
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>>730765969
Would you have preferred the Remake not have original developers involved?

>>730766038
Thank you based Nomura for pissing off the most annoying faggots in the world for over 20 years straight!

>>730766081
But anon, I wrote both posts! It's really hilarious, isn't it? All you have to do is say that you enjoyed FFVIIR and bitter old faggots get angry at the drop of a hat. They don't discuss, they shitpost. They don't deserve respectful discussion, they don't provide it.
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>>730752371
what game is bottom right with the river?
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>>730766275
>Would you have preferred the Remake not have original developers involved?
I would have probably liked to see what CyberConnect2 had made before SE decided it wasn't different and exciting enough for shareholders compared to what like 1/10th of the original staff of the game decided they should "remake" it with
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>>730766275
>Would you have preferred the Remake not have original developers involved?
What a weird conclusion to jump to, but your whole post makes clear you're a retard
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>>730761637
It's fun trying to break bosses with all the different materia builds and status effects. Normalfags would just button mash and heal to beat Rufus. Real chads would find out you can poison him and hail mary the fight before ever needing to heal. Don't make me post the Mario 64 webm.
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>>730748289
right looks like generic unreal slop
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>>730764851
Every "sidequest" in the game is character focused though. The green markers are the side quests, and they always feature a party member prominently. Every one of them is linked to a specific party member. Don't believe me? Go back and look

Climbing a tower to reveal POI isn't a side quest. Neither is ticking off the world intel. Those are considered side activities and exist solely to power up your character. The Gilgamesh Proto Relic quest goes across the entire game and is technically the "super boss" of Rebirth

>>730766454
So you're just not a serious person whatsoever in the slightest
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Notice how >>730766275 is so much worse than any of my "falseflags" but I doubt anyone will say a word.
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>clean it up
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>>730766743
>is so much worse
how so? hes right.
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>>730766275
>I wrote both posts!
Shitposter demands everyone else discusses in an orderly fashion. Interesting.
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you fags need to stop being cynical retards and enjoy things for once in your miserable life. I played ff 7 og, og with new threat, remake and rebirth and I enjoyed all of them. I still do prefer og ff7, probably top 10 games of all time for me.



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