Is this a good video game.
no, it's all ai videos being posted
>>730749409Yeah
>>730749409no
I played it and didn't like it very much because last hitting was annoying but it's a technically competent game.
>>730750576There isnt last hitting anymore
>>730750576They removed last hitting altogether.
>>730750752>>730750810Neat. I might give it another shot
>>730749409extremely goodbut also very very very unfinished
>>730749409Kinda. It's a MOBA with some really interesting movement, and a cool setting.Your enjoyment begins and ends with your ability to carry shitty teams, or find joy in losing an un-quitable 30+ minute match.
>>730750810did they really? that was the worst part Imo and the main reason I fell off playing it
>>730750897>>730751231It would probably have been fine if bullets were slower lile auto attacks are slow in league or dots but it became way too ping reliant for who would do better so they ditched it. You can still deny orbs after a minion dies but theres a delay between confirming an orb and denying it.
>>730749409No. People who rip on concord's character designs yet shill this are fucking retards. This has some of the most bland, dei and ugly characters I think Ive seen. Gameplay is just ok.
the last update fucked it into boringness. it's got a good foundation but instead of adding powerful bullshit to combat powerful bullshit like in Dota they are dumbing down the bar of entry for the overwatch players to enjoy the game and globally nerfing heroes to compensate for the wet noodle CC items because being stunned for more than 1 second by an item is too scary for a mobaby to handle
>>730751391so last hitting now is just securing or denying the little orbs after a mob dies rather than having to last hit and secure the orbs in a zeptosecond? That's a sweet change and would make trading in lanes a lot more enjoyable, I'll have to check the game out again
>>730750576I can't even remember when it was in the game.. was it? it's WAY different now and more based on denying the enemy and confirming yours by shooting the souls, the troopers can actually just fully kill eachother with no player input and they still make souls come out.You also have some on the ground, that you need to be near to pickup so you cant snipe a lane for its full amount. Also, healing creeps don't heal based on being near them, it's now based on killing the enemy heal creep and he drops a little healing orb. It has made the laning phase less punishing if you get bursted down you can heal by killing their creeps and staying by your tower instead of relying on an item.I actually think Deadlock is a good video game, and I hate Dota, I think it has a lot of satisfying teamplay moments and room for your own personal skill to win a battle with someone who might be "stronger" then you, I think the last patch buffed gun stuff more too so your actually FPS skill matters more.
>>730749409I played it for a few days within the first couple of months of it's release. It's way too overcomplicated for my taste. Too many abilities and too many items. It almost felt fun, but my fun is really ruined by the amount of inputs I have to worry about. I'd rather just play a random ass shooter game.
>>730751478>comparing this to concord designsretard
>>730749409It's just smite with a worse coat of paint but a better engine. On the one hand it's based cause icefrog doesn't care that there's no market for this game. He wants to play it so he's making it.On the other hand there's no market for this game and nobody wants to play it.
>>730751534Gotta agree a bit here. Ive played it on and off since release and while the game is more polished it lost that dota factor of hard counters, both heroes and items, and is quite watered down now. Kelvin is the craziest example of how watered down they made a hero
>>730751864Xe's been going at it for months. Anti-Valve schizo is actually deranged.
>>730751897>its just smitegame is nothing like smite you troglodyte, you have a toddler understanding of vidya if you think the two are comparable. the bare moba mechanics and 3rd person are the only similarities and even then the 3rd person cam is way different because the game operates in full 3d instead of the weirdness of smite's 2d/2.5d top down bullshit
>>730751478I would play Concord if it had a cool priest guy and female werewolf.
>>730752279I'm sorry icefrog but you fucked up. Nobody is going to swap out the moba they've been playing for decades and you're not going to get any new players because mobas are hard to onboard unless you already play mobas. You've built a perfect catch-22 so nobody will play your game.
>>730749409I don't think I've ever played anything this snowbally. In my 40 hours of trying the game recently I did not have a single match that didn't devolve into a roflstomp one way or another immediately past the laning phase.>souls are gold>but they're also exp>items are items but they're also exp because they all give a base stat too>every single ability scalesYou can't fucking fall behind in souls for a split second or it's over. You won't be able to do shit to them and they will make your tiny health bar explode. You will be 100% absolutely fucking useless on any hero if you fall behind in farm.
>>730753836unfortunately you gotta escape the trenches to get good matches at this point in the game's development, hopefully that changes soon but it's hard for even the largest mobas to offer fun rewarding matches for new players, putting an extra person on the team (6v6) only adds another unstable mental patient ready to blow the game up because you took the boxes he wanted from across the map
>>730753836Yeah. Matchmaking is fucked: usually whomever takes mid boss first wins, and the comeback outs (cultic sacrafice/urn) just give the winning team a bigger advantage most of the time.
>>730753836They dont want another dota with regular 60+ minute games. Thats why mid boss reward is so absurdly powerful
>>730749409me personally? I think they nailed it in 96
yeah snowballing is a big issue rn and yoshitard makes it worse with each update>You will be 100% absolutely fucking useless on any heroI will say is a 80% and depends on the hero, for example Lash and Dynamo can turn things around even if they don't do damage
>>730755274@grok is this real?
>>730749409It's kinda hard to say at this point. The game's still at that stage of development where they'll just completely overhaul part of the systems in order to keep whack-a-moling perceived issues in the game design, and by the time dust settles on that, new "issues" have been "addressed" that can completely change the system.Where it stands right now, Deadlock's alright but with some flaws. There's a clear vision for a dynamic moba where everyone is constantly moving between lanes and alley camps and what not, but a steep learning curve + rapidly changing game + mediocre matchmaking + typically shitty MOBA playerbase means it can be difficult to get into, and even after you do it's still a pretty snowball-y game where it can feel difficult to feel like you're properly participating up at every point of the match. There's also often a lot of issues with the heroes, whether they'll suffer because the vision for their kit doesn't meet the vision of the patch, or they're heavily ability focused and then thus struggle with keeping their burst damage up + dealing with Counterspell
Are there any characters recommended for learning the game or do I pick whatever?
>>730755275Lash deals pretty big damage.
>>730755896Sinclair.
>>730755896Only a few are particularly difficult
>>730755896>If you want a beefy damage dealerPick Abrams>If you want a high damage low health glass cannon that deals sneaky amounts of damage especially late gamePick Infernus (just make sure you hit the DoT that's where your damage is, especially after napalm)>Do you want to fly around the map, have escape tools, deal high burst damage but have a next to worthless gun?Pick Lash.Personally Lash is what 'unlocked' this game for me, I saw the vision and now I'm in.
How do you damage as Shiv? Let's say I land my knives. What then?
>>730756109Based retard
>>730755896Wraith and Seven are probably the most straightforward characters in the game right now. McGinnis and Dynamo is also good because of her strong support and freedom to make mistakes. There is no good answer but there are a few characters you should avoid like Sinclair and Doorman.
>>730756157I know that Shiv is really strong, I've been on the receiving end of a competent Shiv player leveling my team many times. But I can't figure out how to do that myself.
>>730756610you gotta keep your rage up, hit your knives, negate your damage and move in and out of fights with mobility. hes what i would consider hard to play honestly
>>730752235the game peaked with the 4 lanes felt the best to me but clearly most people didnt enjoy it so as long as the main people that play the game like the new direction all that matters
>>730755948not when your score is 1 10 on a 60 min game, still won tho
>>730749409objectively yes, great designs, great lore, amazing sound designbut playing it isn't super fun sometimes>>730755274@grok make this a gif so this faggot learns his lesson
Who's the most annoying deadlocker to play against? Like the one that makes your blood boil
>>730756109play with full rage, that's the beginner mistake trying to fight without it>>730758373vyper and bebop
>>730749409I mean is alright, I like the setting and the "lore", could explore some interesting designs, but it's very ugly atm
What is wrong with just about every haze player. They fuck up lanes, don't know what spirit power does and are always the most obnoxious people in each lobby.
>>730755274it would melt pcs of that time
>>730758631>but it's very ugly atmOnly the unfinished parts. Everything that is finished looks just fantastic. It is also very performance friendly in typical Valve style and looks acceptable even on weak hardware which is unheard of these days.
>game is in alpha>has an even more secret build for playtestingkek
>>730758631>but it's very ugly atmThere should be an update next week with an almost total map rework.
>>730758912Every game has that kind of edgy backstabber character who attracts complete freaks who want to win games themselves because "everyone else is a braindead loser who can't be trusted"Haze has invis and knife throwing, and she's a "skill based" character who focuses on shooting so Deadlock has hersometimes they're good, then they get an actual tough game and throw a tantrum because they can't afk farm their way to victory and they keep getting stunned out of ultHaze is strong too so that just gives them the ego boost to think they can do stupid shit and get away with it
Is the game still so farm-heavy?I remember when I stopped playing months ago, farming was the alpha and omega. Attempting to gank was basically grief because you were wasting so much time (30 seconds) not farming creeps.It was worse than LoL.Did anything change?
>>730751560yeah also orbs are a smaller portion of souls now
>>730759347>occult themed game has layers upon layers of sekkrit clubsBravo Gaben!
>>730759347yeah its fucked, they did this because people complained the playtest was changing things weekly sometimes daily.. almost like it's an alpha PLAY TESTsame reason we have to deal with 1 game mode that's psuedo-ranked instead of casual queue
>>730759291Yeah, I went too far with the "very", but Sinclair and Viper do need some love>>730759408I recently started playing the game, and have seen people memeing the update for a couple of weeks now, also something about new 8 characters, wonder how many will this game have in the end.
>>730749409it will never be balancedits full of lgtb faggots,literally reedit communityone of the worst matchmaking i have ever playedranking is retarded, its based on play skill somehow. So you can win a game but still rank downfull of cheaters
>>730749409It has a LITERAL They/them character but /v/ ignores it because it's valve
>>730756109dash is the main damage skill at full rage.
It would be neat if we could get a new Orange Box with Deadlock as one of the games. Last I heard, TF2 is still chugging along on the PS3 and 360.
>>730758373Bebop and Haze
>>730755274That looks cool as shit, who made it?
>>730760731I think that's the plan, not even coping. There's too many little hidden details in the builds pointing toward other unannounced games. Plus with the GabeCube launching and the Steam Deck having a certified control scheme, I think it's the plan. Deadlock is the TF2 entry of Orange Box 2.
>>730752235>Kelvin is the craziest example of how watered down they made a hero... he hasn't been changed
>>730760779pic related but they dont have many other projects
>>730760631Fucking hate mo and krill too bro
Games full of faggots soon bans for just being straight.
>>730759291>It is also very performance friendly in typical ValveTanking fps down to 50 on r5 3600 during a teamfight isn't exactly performance-friendly.