get in and let's talk about the new Genshin killer v12389
>>730771202I'm a betalet. How was the game broskis? Is the plot also words words words like Arknights, is it mildly kino or interesting at the very least.
STOP making drama threadsmake a respectable thread
>>730771670>genshin sunk coster spotted
/efg/this board sucks
>>730771670>arkniggers not seething about literally every other gacha ever made impossible
>>730771202kys take it to /vg/ you've had an open beta for months and months nothing new will be revealed except the number of suckers gambling for character models
>>730771451First zone was a pure slogfest, a lot of tutorials but they are justifiable because they are so many systems you need to understandAfter that zone it was fun
in terms of gacha gameplay that ive went through:Wuwa > GFL 2 > Genshin > HSR > Endfield > BA
it's Arknights so its bound to have embarrassing writing
>>730772282>GFL2 secondi hope you played recently because for like half a year it was full auto against lv15 enemies everywhere
I can't fit another gacha in my schedule
So,pity carries over between banners, but only until you hit the 50/50.If you do, for example, 10 out of 80 pulls, those 10 pulls carry over to the next banner if you stop there.However, if you keep pulling until you reach the 50/50 and you lose it, your pity resets to zero on the next banner. The 120 pulls guaranteed limited does NOT carry over it only applies to the current limited 6* banner?
>>730771202The factorio shit is a huge turnoff, I don't want to have to spend dozens of hours minmaxing base building for a mobage.
Lowlight won.
You know their gacha is shit when they have to make such convoluted rules and multiple pity counters for it instead of just simply increasing the rates.
>>730772450started around when they put in the 2nd biweekly mode, those 2 rotating endgame modes have been comfy
>>730772614I have good news, because they let you import entire base blueprints now to cater to room temperature retards like you.
>>730772725You should just give up on endgame entirely, be entirely f2p, realize you're playing a bad game and return to single player like Carmack intended
>>730772838EPVA and heroic are nice, but they need to add frenzy to all the drills instead of just the last one
>>730772949Good. Thanks for beta testing!
>>730771202No panties, no soul.
>>730773225>no pantiesSNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIF
>>730772386At least it's freed from the tower defence gameplay so it doesn't have to contort itself into a mobius strip to have the player constantly on the defensive.
I will monthly up to the maximum limit on day 1 so that Light knows I'm a dedicated to Endfield Industries™ and gives me all the good things in life
post wet lizards
>>730773595we love scales
In spite of not being invited to the... numerous... tests, I will still buy the monthly card and the battlepass.Lowlight, I know you browse these threads. Consider this an olive branch. Just don't spite me again.
fuckin' furries
>>730773686same. I was pissy for a while. well, for 4 years. signed up on the new HG site the day it got announced and did all the surveys jumped through the numerous hoops etc. no invites. we'll receive our just rewards for patience soon enough.
>>730773798I want to collect and drink rainwater from this creature spats
Ramlet and vramlet bros, is this game playable on a toaster?
>>730773296 Honestly, that’s one of the few silver linings. Not being shackled to TD mechanics gives them way more freedom in encounter design. Maybe we can finally get some actual proactive gameplay instead of babysitting lanes for 15 minutes with glorified stat checks.
>>730774160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VMzrBbD0tsThis shit ran on i5-4670 + GTX 750 Ti 2GB lmao
>>730774160I hope, i'm a 16GB RAMlet with an RTX 3060 and i won't be upgrading anytime soon at this rate
>Voiced by Ikumi HasegawaI guess I shouldnt be surprised considering who shes based on but still.
>>730773798*Kemonomimi
>>730774227crazy how their Unity rewrite enables it to play on such graphical calculator hardware like this, then when it looks good on good hardware, it looks really really damn good
>>730774227Cant wait to play this at 4k 240hz
>>730774636max fps for now is 120fps after enable framegen
I will NOT get baited by the Surtr banner
>>730774701I guess I can try to upscale it to 8k since I wont get the higher refresh rate then
>>730775009You can het her on Yvonne banner anyway
>>730771202mio sexo
>>730775009I'm 100% not getting baited by Surtr because i find her mid at best, unironically waiting for the smol wolf, the retarded kot and the chink doragon
>>730771202 I hope the ave mujicas get to stay on endfield
Anyone have any comments on Laevatain or the upcoming banner characters? Are they worth rolling for or are they just going to be lmao 1.0 DPS in two months?
>>730775391We unironically don't know, it's a global release and we are lacking the usual gacha clairvoyance
Any chance of this one being playable?
Tangtang will be a 5* maybe. The others are 6* for sure. Just to have an idea what is coming
>>730775391There's never been a 1.0 unit in any gacha that hasn't been almost completely powercrept 6-12 months into the game.
>>730775391I doubt we'll be getting a broken unit on release like Silver Ash but who knows.
>>730775009no matter who you choose to pull, let your heart and weenie guide you, not necessarily in that order
>>730775727It's a shame because I think she's hot as fuck and her animations and attacks are pure kino, but I can't get past how stupid her skirt and hulahoop are
>>730771202I don't play gachas but I'm really surprised at how well animated these chinese and korean games are and the waifu pandering looks good. What the hell happened to Japan?
>>730775849Get her so you're ready for when they release her skins.
>>730772282>fun but only very small amount of content tier:GF2>fun if you're slightly autistic tier:endfield>only good for its porn tier:BA>just read a book tier:reverse 1999, limbus>absolute dogshit to fall asleep to tier:anything hoyo + wuwa, brown dust 2
>>730775941no better time to throw away all regard and push the needle in deep than the present! well.. a week from now.
>>730772450Surely since you are complaining about story mode enemies you are completing the heroic difficulty versions of these quests instead?
>>730771202This reminds me of all those WoW killer games.
>>730771202If it were a Genshin killer you'd think it try to be something more than just shinier Genshin.
>>730772610so its worse than stella sora heh
Send help lads.https://endfield.gryphline.com/activity/final-prep-orders?inviteCode=00252bc963ec9e596792a375c0c5f414
>>730777479No.*laughs in evil*
>>730775642Ah yes another casualty of gacha game design.
I played Arknights when it first came out and all I remember is liking the autistic assassin(?) .Are the Endfield characters the same chars or new OC Donut Steels?
>>730777595mix of boththe characters straight outta Arknights are clones with new names
>>730777595It's mostly new characters so far, but there are characters that are decendants of AK characters, and expies that are called Reconveners.
>>730773964deliciousfuckin' free use furries
>>730775642>There's never been a 1.0 unit in any gacha that hasn't been almost completely powercrept 6-12 months into the game.nigga people STILL use Arash in FGO. I can think of even more examples though since FGO is rather unique and also ancient. >Liter in Nikke >Fenny in Snowbreak >Taiki Shuttle, Oguri Cap, and Silence Suzuka in Umamusume
>>730777479hope my clickyclick tickled you good bro
>>730778163>characters that are descendants of AK charactersDoesn't this mean every AK player got canonically cuckolded, with their waifu/husbando getting bred by somebody else instead of the Doctor? Imagine how bad the GFL2 cuck drama would have been if the sequel was all biosynth androids descended from the original dolls who got fucked by other dudes what the fuck lmao
>>730778324Cheers Anon.
>>730778160>>730778163Cool, it's a 3d game now, so I doubt they're gonna import all 500 chars and just pick the popular ones.
>>730778532absolutely, and the surveys will be there to use and influence their long term importation decisions
>>730776897>>730773036
nuChen belike
>>730772282>GFL 2What? Gameplay is bottom of the barrel there
>>730780572not for 2 endgame modes
zamn
>>730771202Endfield will be yuri-coded isn't it?
>>730782251we better get these two to ensure it
>>730772282Shin put your trip on please
So Genshin allows panties and upskirt now, while Endfield has granny spats...Why would I play this over genshin?
>>730771202whens preload
>>730771451On the level of Arknights' first chapters. Gameplay-wise it just kept getting worse every beta since the technical.
>>730772282you got the arrows backwards
>>730782781not gonna lie Nicole is making my dick rock hard as we speakLowlight will know what to do though, we're only seeing 1.0 units now, just wait for the ultra premium sex to get deployed
>>730782950Technical test was the wrost>use skill>run around like a fucking retard waiting for cd>use skill again
>>730784071skills don't have a cooldown
>>730782876january 20th
>>730778363good thing the arknights community is not made up of incels who unironically belive the characters to be their wives, so no drama on that front
Arknights has Sakiko, Endfield does not.Do I have to say more?
>>730784261SP act like cooldown, you spam 3 skills boom boom boom and running around waiting for sp because normal attack worth nothing in techtest
>>730785064I'm kinda scared for my yellow rocks on this event. Might just limit myself to the edgy wolf outfit. Purple kot is cute too... ugh.
>>730771202do I need to know any of the arknights lore for this? I dropped the game around when the ninetails loli’s event first released and I heard the more recent arcs are long as fuck
Do you like canon wife in Endfield?
>>730785756very much
>>730785756downgrade compared to bnuy and calcat
>>730782950It keeps getting better with each test. First test with xenoblade-like combat was the worst. I cant understand niggers who like combat from 2000s mmos, it doesnt feel good to play. You either commit to turn-based or action combat, everything else is just shit.
>>730771202Unfortunately the game is far too greedy with it's pulls, I see no need to even play it
>>730782781Ember and Flourite are more lewd than anything from 6 years of gayshit and they are just a launch units. Also, only Chen has safe spats, others are designed like that so you can see their underwear (except Ember, she has pretty bold panties) so it doesnt feel like every design is censored because there is nothing to censor in the first place.
>>730785987>one character every four monthsjej jemao
Another super important question you black niggers are forgetting is how long it takes to max a 6* character so they're actually useable. It doesn't matter if you pull every limited in the pool if you can only build one every five months
>>730786479>>730786591How is this game so fucking bad when Arknights 1 was so generous apparently?
Lore is probably the biggest hurdle for me, assuming Endfield heavily relies on AK lore to understand the story.
>>730771202No one will be playing
So, how much time does this game eat daily?
>>730786643my guess would be slower release rate b/c 3d and a bit of greed/pettiness since dupes are nothingburgers in the TD. maybe they're feeling a bit emboldened to test what they can get away w/.I get everything I want from AK and I only buy the $5 monthly card.
>>730786591Its pretty fast considering there is almost 0 rng involved. You craft you gear yourself and stats arent random, nor their values and there is no casino dungeons for gear farming.
Combat looks rather simple, but I'll try it for the scifi setting and hot girls.
>>730786981>3dSuch a silly excuse considering MMOs exist.Oh but we NEED to lock gameplay content behind gacha.No one would EVER whale on cosmetics!Oh WAIT let's do both for even more profit!Ugh.
>>730775009I'm pulling on Yvonne's banner because atleast when I lose the 50/50 I might get Sutr. Plus I'm more interested in Rossi, the loli who also seems to be fire dps
>>730786591 Max pot just gives you pictures...
I hope I get Last Rite because I don't want to reroll. I'll probably get the dragon boy
>>730787116>mesugaki but with huge ass and titsdevs were based
>>730787170But how to play without units? I mean since its the beginning of the game and you dont have characters except wellfare ones
>>730785987>dailies and monthly ($5?) are give same pulls as hoyoshitthat's a shame
>>730787305>But how to play without units?push buttons. It's gacha, it will be a piss easy game.
Should I watch the anime? Never played the original tower defense game.
>>730787387I havent thought about it myself but I guess I will do it like that too, because skipping first banner and pulling only on the second one indeed looks like good move.
>>730787513You will get 5 stars from pulling on the beginner and standard banner. As long as I get the Australian girl I'm good.
>>730785987>500 per spinHoly fucking hell, this game is dead on arrival>just save up for 2 and a half months before you can guaranteed a character+weapon
>>730787346the $5 monthly gives LESS than hoyoshit.hoyoshit: ~18 pullsendfield: ~13 pulls
>>730787493It's short so give it a try.Personally I think its ok but it makes some changes that puzzle me.
>>730787513You only ever "need" units if you engage in the postgame sweatlord modes. If you ignore them you can just play with any unit at your own pace, nothing matters.If you just enjoy events and new story updates you'll never need to spend a dime on a gacha game, ever.
>>730787602That just means each pull is worth more in $ haha
>>730787562How much a spin costs doesn't matter retard. Your "160" from hoyoslop isn't a magical number. It's how much currency the game gives you. >>730787602You are ignoring the 900 paid currency, which puts it up to 15, but still less which is terrible.They are going to get blasted by players on launch unless events shit out currency, which I doubt.
>>730787602Dont you need to less technically to guarantee a character?
>>730787623Pretty much free to plays get to play the demo version of the game and others uh.............get to decide if the value proposition is worth it (its a bad deal but that won't stop whales)
>>730787703You need 120 pulls for the guarantee, genshin is 180.
>>730787724More like free to play get the entire game and other players are buying what we used to call "cheat codes" when I was a kid.These games usually get really fucking boring with a well built account because nothing provides any challenge besides the toppest tiers of the whale tower.
>>730787821Since when are characters cheat codes?
>>730787602120 guarantee here bro
>>730787865Since whenever they have generally stronger abilities and motion values than their free counterparts?
>>730787821Yeah I don't really understand whales. Take ZZZ for example, oh boy you spent $2000 to clear a 2 minute fight in 1 minute. You paid to play the game less than me. Great job.Paying for a goon scene makes more sense in my eyes
>>730787701>You are ignoring the 900 paid currency, which puts it up to 15, but still less which is terrible.No I'm not. It's 6000 oroberyl spread out over the month + 12 orig immediately (equal to 900 oroberyl) so 6900 oroberyl in total. A roll is 500 oroberyl so it's 13.8 rolls in total.Hoyoshit is 18.75 rolls in total.
>>730787927ZZZ is an especially retarded case because for almost all content it gives you a set team anyway. Story mode uses a locked story team, the weekly dungeon has trial units that can easily clear the weekly content. Events provide you with trial units.There's absolutely no reason to own your own set of characters besides Shiyu and DA and both of those suck dick as content.
>>730775941Well, the actual game part is usually pretty shit
>>730787821Bro don't defend the corporation, you are better than this.If the dupes are OP that's due to greed.Point is they lock up content and jack the "price" to something ridiculous proper games would balk at.The characters aren't even individually complex/interesting combat wise.They can't be due to gacha needing to have a wide pool to roll for.So that's why the complexity is in the teambuilding as everyone likes to cope with.Will Endfield be fun? Sure. Don't let that make you think HG is your friend to the point of being a sycophant for them.
>>730787983>Story mode uses a locked story team, the weekly dungeon has trial units that can easily clear the weekly content. Events provide you with trial units.True.I'm likely going to quit ZZZ. So much potential, but the game and story just keep floundering. Shame, I'll miss my wives Evelyn and Trigger.
>>730772610I'm pretty sure that the 120 pity does NOT indeed carry over so you do just 10 pulls on a banner, you'll be back to 0/120 instead of 10/120 on the next banner, which means that the best strategy is to always do single pulls so that you don't waste a single one.
>>730787894Ah but why are they like that?Greed.Cheat codes are a fun bonus.
>>730787927>Paying for a goon scene makes more sense in my eyesTrue. I never pay for monthly/bp/whatever unless they give me some lewd interaction and/or skin. I just buy coom stuff and thats it.
Yvonne owes me sex
>>730771202gotta be one of the worst gacha systems on the market?
>>730775614loli looks cute. Does Arknight have many lolis? Asking for a friend.
>>730788149>120 guarantee >bad
More gacha should have the Limbus system.
How long's the mainquest in the beta? Deliberating whether I should play on release or wait till there's more out.
>>730788205How does it work? I don't play it.
How many schizos does the threads haves alreadys
>>730788093same, only money I've spent on gachas in years has been shit like the skin+interactive scene combos in Snowbreak, I haven't spent money for gacha pulls ever to my knowledge, maybe 10+ years ago I spent a little to finish a spark in granblue or something but I'm pretty sure I haven't. I'll pay for skins or a guaranteed suptix letting me just fucking have the character I want if it's not ridiculously overpriced but I've never once felt the inclination to spend for pulls or even dumber open my wallet just for dupes of a character or weapon
>>730787927Posts like these are always funny because this monetization model wont exist without whales. Maybe have some self awareness.
>>730788167>2-3 months worth of grind (with events, monthly, battle pass)>banners last 15 days only>meaning you only allowed to roll once per 4-6 banners Doesn't sound good at all with such insane character spam. Either they need to make banners last twice as long or double your roll gain.
>>730788273I think the system itself is fine, but I agree the currency rate sounds horseshit and the devs are going to get angry reviews from players.
>>730788162There's a handful. It was dry for a while, but we got 2 playable + 1 in NPC jail(picrel) last year.
>>730788273just means you need to pick and choose who you really like wisely, which really is pretty normal for AAA gacha but I mean sure, I'm not gonna complain if the income increases
>>730788369>just means it's objectively worseYeah
>>730788273>banners last 15 days onlywhy lie?
>>730788360>asymmetric thigh bandsWhat even causes this in the korean/chinese design philosophy for so much gacha, anyway
>>730788369>just means you need to pick and choose who you really like wisely,That's only work when global release is delayed so that you can look at Chinese progress, with day 0 release everywhere you will end up eating bait banners
>>7307882191.45% rates for the rate upNo dupe system200 rolls you get to grab the character on rate up outright (spark/hard pity whatever you call it)No 50/50 shenanigansRelated to this is the dispenser system.So after a units been out for a week it goes into the dispenser.You can use a shard currency earned through rolling and grinding endgame.So effectively if you dont roll for a guy that guy is available to grind for permanently after week delay.The nutty thing is the endgame is pretty much you farming shards to build up a collection. (99% complete collection is possible [the 1% is the arknights collab stuff lol])The grind takes a while but it also mostly solves FOMO which is a big deal, at least for me.Its like the commendation store in arknights but all old ops are available for purchase always and you earn more of the currency via IS runs.One caveat is you can't get guy from the last season (battle pass) but once the next battle pass comes out those guys get added to the dispenser permanently.
>>730788571that's the fun of gacha man, western Arknighters have been spoiled all these years, they're about to learn what playin' gacha really means!
>>730771879>/efg/It will be called /gae/ - General for Arknights: Endfield
I believe in Endfield.
>>730788661feels surreal that it's here man, almost 4 fackin years since they announced it and made the new HG site to sign up
>>730788625But why do need to make things more sucky?
This trailer was made for MEhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Dpp5kbR3ago
Will the end game be challenging?
>>730788907It's gonna be stat/character check like always. No idea if you find it challenging or not.
