https://x.com/falco_girgis/status/2010986897749762149
>>730775473It would’ve been a Killer App on the Sega Saturn
why
>>730775473that's cool, but isn't the dreamcast about as powerful as an xbox?shouldn't they be porting this to the sega genesis?
>>730775543Autism, and now you can emulate it in a chink handheld
>>730775473why not port sonic heros?
>>730775473Now do the intended platform, Saturn.
>>730775748wouldn't it be the sega cd?
>>730775473bless the sega autists
>>730775473Would a GBA port be possible?
>>730775840Does Sonic Mania look like Sonic CD to you?
>>730775473Did everyone forget about this guy's kickstarter scam?
>>730776054Guy doind it seems whiny so probably not.
>>730776158qrd pls
>>730776158I didn't, I got blocked by him on Xitter because I brought it up.
>>730776054Mania's soundtrack is too good for GBA's shit sound chip.
>>730776226Took the money, ran and got a hair transplant instead.
>>730775618>isn't the dreamcast about as powerful as an xbox?do segatards really
>>730775748The guy said:>While obviously the Saturn could handle a Sonic Mania-style game, it would have to be made from the ground-up for the Saturn in a completely new codebase with its limitations in-mind.... The 3 lowest-end platforms that seem capable of handling the same engine and codebase are DC, PS2, and PSP, and each still has to struggle quite a bit to manage resources and move to HW-based rendering for best performance... it's QUITE a bit of work for even those 3... A Saturn version would essentially be an entirely new game from scratch with the same art style and gameplay from a programming perspective. Same with the other 5th gen consoles, N64, and PS1.
>>730776226Elysian Shadows. He promised a shitty dreamcast RPG. Raised $185,322 on Kickstarter. Last updated January 31, 2017.
>>730775473Is this the same guy that was making a kickstarter indie game, but never finished it because he was part of the san francisco cult along with Zoe Quinn and several game journalists?
>>730776460Don't care baldy, do it.
>>730776953No u
>>730775473It's fun on 3DS.
>>730775473Isn't Mania a Saturn tier game?
Okay when is it getting ported to Saturn or Genesis?
>>730776460Where's the PS2 port? I want to play Sonic Mania but I refuse to play it until I can play it on a CRT.
>>730779070Nice bait
>>730775543for teh lulz
>>730778280Does it support 3D?
>>730776318Was waiting to see if anyone remembered who this fucking jerk off.
>>730779070>I want to play Sonic Mania but I refuse to play it until I can play it on a CRTSwitch1/2 outputs 480p and with a widescreen ED CRT it is the defacto best way to play switch games. It's how I played for years.
>>730780993That's not 240p.
>>730781024I guess if you want to play sonic mania in 4:3 you can just use 4:3 mod for it and use mistercast to send it to a TV in 240p, or use a CRT emudriver setup.
>>730779070There's the Wii port you can play hooked up to a CRT.
>>730775473mite b cool
>>730781218Too bad it lags like a motherfucker on the special stages
>>730781218I'll have to go dig it up
>>730775618dreamcast>200mhz Hitachi SH4 CPU>16mb ram>8mb vram>100MHz NEC PowerVR GPU with 728MFLOPS of floating point performanceXbox>733MHz Pentium 3>64mb ram, shared with GPU>233MHz Geforce 3-derived GPU at 7.3GFLOPSentirely different ballpark
>>730781365they all do at this power level, they're software rendered stages
>>730775618>isn't the dreamcast about as powerful as an xbox?Same generation but no. Xbox was a lot more powerful.However developers still managed to make better looking games on the dreamcast thanks to superior art direction and frame rates.Xbox games were reponsible for the influx of brown/grey shitty looking """realistic""" games.
how do they do it?
>>730781106>mistercasthow much latency do you think itll add? ive been struggling trying to wire up my pc to my composite-only crt for a while and all this messing around with transcoders with added latency or gpus with analogue outputs, line doubling, edid emulation, etc. over trying to get decent 240p output from a computer is such a fucking pain in the ass. ive thought of getting a crt pc monitor but its not the same as flickerless output off a ps1 into your average tv for example
>>730781365There’s a mod that removes the decorations from Special Stages that should help with performance.
>>730785253Mistercast will add at least 1 frame, it's not quite as lagless as using Groovymame but it's pretty close.Mistercast is for fun things like actually watching 4:3 content easily or if you just wanna see what modern games look life in 480i or 240p without having to fuck around much. And then if you have a mister you don't have to fuck around with emulation anymore you just play games off the mister, and it's piss easy to put new games on it because you just drag and drop them off your computer onto it. If you want to play old games on a CRT TV but don't want to collect a bunch of old Hardware the mister is the best purchase you'll ever make.
>>7307754733d stages barely run on vita, how did they manage them on DC?
the final boss of Dreamcast porting should be dxlevel7 vanilla TF2
>>730775543Sonic Mania was made to look like if the Sega Saturn got a (new) 2D Sonic game. Since porting something like that to the Saturn would be a herculean task, the Dreamcast is the next best option. It just makes sense.
>>730788168They should port it to the Saturn
>>730775473>portedpost disc iso or it never fucking happened. i'm tired of these twitter losers faking shit for clout and releasing nothing.>>730775618>that's cool, but isn't the dreamcast about as powerful as an xbox?xbox makes the dreamcast look like an atari st>shouldn't they be porting this to the sega genesis?that would require actual programming talent that these faggots quite literally lack. you can't just make something in SGDK in C and it'll work. everything would need to be coded in assembly language, which would filter the fuck out of these faggots.
>>730779070For some reason the PS2 has a weak homebrew scene outside of piracy. I guess when it has thousands of games already there was less of a reason for people to make homebrew games and ports. The most the PS2 gets is hacks for the GTA and Dragon Ball Z Budokai games and PES/FIFA roster changes because third-world.Hell, even the PS1 doesn't really have much of a homebrew scene either, you'd think it would be more popular considering PS1-style graphics are all the rage with indie games nowadays.
>>730788168if this piece of shit can run on a dreamcast, it can run on a saturn (probably with ram expansion). the saturn was designed for shit just like this. i suspect memory is the biggest hurdle as it appears they're just porting all of the assets and code from the pc version with no modifications - if this port actually exists. trusting retards on twitter to tell the truth is as reliable as putting a child sex offender in charge of a children's daycare center.
>>730775618the dreamcast is below the ps2 in power. its like a PS1.5
>>730788627>PS2 has a weak homebrew scene outside of piracy.that never happened. only someone that was born yesterday and wasn't around during ps2's day would write something this fucking retarded>Hell, even the PS1 doesn't really have much of a homebrew scene either,your lying is so delusional and repulsive that it's hilarious. just because they filtered you at every level doesn't mean an entire part of its history doesn't exist because you're too lazy to use a search engine and far too retarded to use a simple ai bot.
>>730775473>it's been ported>i won't provide a download linkkill yourself nigger
>>730781453It's wierd how Xbox games don't look all the significantly better anyway despite this.
>>730791680Dreamcast games could look good but there'd barely be anything on screen because of the RAM limitations. That's why the console was so well suited to horror and fighting games. Games that had to load in more objects looked more like the N64.
>>730792231Doesn't seems to be a problem for Shenmue 2's cities. Shenmue 2 looks way better than Yakuza 2 btw. 1.5 the PSX, my ass.
>>730775473>not Saturn or 32XMissed the mark.
>>730775667But...I already could...
>>730776132Quite literally yes?>>730776054If Mario 64 can go on GBA then Sonic Mania should be able to.
>>730775473>Falco GirgisIsn't that the guy who made a Kickstarter for a Dreamcast RPG and ran away with the money?
>>730791680probably because PS2 (150 mhz cpu) was the default console for development and then other consoles got ports, thus holding graphics back for everyone.
>>730791680Dreamcast looks as good or better than the PS2 in many instances, but the Gamecube and Xbox were in an entirely different league.
>>730791680Because most sixth-gen games were made with the PS2 in mind and ported to other consolesThere were some Xbox console exclusives that could pass for early 360 games, like Ninja Gaiden Black
>>730775473Does it have playable bonus 3D stages? Most ports struggle with them.
>>730792691The Sega CD wouldn't be able to handle the 3D special stages, you'd have to either make them Mode 7 like Sonic CD's or use the 32X
>>730788168>>73078822632X
>>730775535Not during its time. It would have been looked upon as a relic compared to the 3D platformer games that the N64 and PS1 were pushing. It would have received a lot of love retroactively, once people moved past that phase.
>>730775667>nowPortmaster support for Mania was added three years ago and it's one of the most-downloaded conversions, even some of the scuffier Anbernigs can run it nowadays
>>730779070There's at least two different homebrew Sonic games on the PS1, if it countshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSjY-fmJo8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj02y20y0lw
>>730781453Power levels don't matter
>>730793163To be fair megaman was straight up just garbage on playstation
>>730793473Profoundly shit take.
>>730788763The Dreamcast is pretty comparable to a PS2, actually. And it doesn't have as many cost-cutting quirks that took a long time for developers to work around. The biggest reason the Dreamcast couldn't compete with the PS2 is that it was working with less than a quarter of the storage space on disc, which reduced the potential scope of games despite the less finicky hardware. GTA III was actually supposed to be Dreamcast exclusive, but it was already clearly going to be pulled from the market, so they pivoted to the PS2. It wasn't for technical reasons.That said, the Xbox released almost two years after the PS2 and Dreamcast and used what was essentially PC-grade hardware, which put it way above both, and made it even more attractive to third parties, but made it way more expensive, and the market had already begun figuring out the PS2, so the Xbox never really caught up.The GameCube, meanwhile, essentially got by on Nintendo's reputation, and on being the cheapest option available, and thus the preferred choice of low-income families. Under the hood, it wasn't all that different from the Dreamcast, which is why so many Dreamcast games got ported to it so quickly.
>>730793473>>730793604Finally got around to playing these and they aren't great. It's visuals and voice work is outstanding but thats where the fun ends. Feels like it's world and gameplay events were messily stitched together.
>>730793914>messily stitched togetherThat's the most "nothing" criticism I've ever heard. What do you even mean by that? Every video game's cutscenes are "stitched together." They're distributed between segments of gameplay, retard. That's the point of this medium.
>>730793914>world and gameplay events were messily stitched togetherYeah you see that a lot in megaman games
>>730791680>some xbox gamesA ton look way better. I went from a DC to an xbox and the leap was huge at the time.Its hard too say leaps like that with todays "eyes" but at the time going from shenmue to Halo was fucking insane.Ninja gaiden looked better then gen 7 games because of its locked 60fps and art style. Also xbox ran most games at 480p 60 in widescreen.
>>730775535Critics were already giving Sonic 3 and Knuckles flak for being too similar to the previous games, releasing another 2D game with Mario 64 right around the corner would've made Sega a laughing stock.
>>730794125Megaman isn't known for it's "world elements" at all.
>>730793914>"i dont like it, it feels and plays like a video game"
>>730793163>36 poundsEven the producer sold it as bargain
>>730782693Dreamcast would've had just as many brown and grey games had it survived past 2001.
>>730793604Yosyonke Town, my beloved.
>>730775473Cool, but the 32X port of SRB2 is kind of insane.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJAMsIONnMA&t=129s
>>730775543people do projects to hone their skills and enjoy their time off. It's more productive than being a spiteful shitposter on /v/
>>730794773They released a newer version of that port btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksNZnPZeZeQ
>>730775473>>730794773>Mania on Dreamcast>SRB2 on 32XLiterally why is it never Saturn?
>>730794918Because the Saturn sucked.
>>730794918Nobody owned a Saturn, you need serious nostalgia to do this kind of bullshit backporting job.
>>730793791>The Dreamcast is pretty comparable to a PS2Its still markedly weaker. The PS2 has more RAM and a faster processor, in addition to all the powerful specialty hardware it uses for things like AA and texture filtering. The PS2 actually had the Xbox beat in terms of some specific graphics tasks like the fog in SH2 or the rain in MGS2, which is why those effects looked worse on Xbox. The PS2 also was really good at texture streaming, which is why unlike the Xbox, it didn't need to cache files on a hard disk to play GTA.>GTA III was actually supposed to be Dreamcast exclusive, but it was already clearly going to be pulled from the market, so they pivoted to the PS2. It wasn't for technical reasons.That may be so, but a lot still would've been cut or missing if it released in addition to performing much worse, as shown by the fanmade port.>the gamecube under the hood isn't all that different from the Dreamcast.The Gamecube was a PowerPC machine with an ATI GPU. Its closer to a Macintosh of the time than it is to the Dreamcast. It got Dreamcast ports because Nintendo and Sega were previously competing over the same market (kids), while PS2 and Xbox were shooting for teenagers , college students, and adults with more disposable income.
>>730788824Post some examples then.
>>730791680Xbox games were bigger and more mechanically complex. HL2 and Halo would never have worked on Dreamcast.
>>730793323They do, especially when its y2k era computer hardware. There are games which just couldn't work on Dreamcast, but which do on Xbox.
>>730794918Saturn is really fucking hard to program for. The best you got is someone trying to port MGS1 to the Saturn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZhxsDw03Y
>>730785972They'd probably have to rewrite the code to leverage the hardware. The Dreamcast can do much more impressive 3d than those stages, it can in theory do them. The Vita port was probably doing everything in software.
>>730794060nta, but I think he means that it doesn't have an organic flow or progression, resulting in less immersion. A game can feel real if it tries to, eg Half Life. Of course I have no way of knowing if he's lying, since I haven't played Megaman, but I think that's what he's claiming.
