LOTR open world RPG is in development.
>>730784930>being made to "compete with hogwarts legay"yuck
>>730784995It could just mean Big IP project trying to hit it out of the park HL is definitely one of the biggest game of all time, but the management at WB is full of retarded faggots for not making DLCs or a second game
>>730784930>Third person open world RPG
People will either hate it for not being accurate enough or not looking enough like the movies despite being a wholly separate adaptation.
>>730784930>compete with hogwarts legacy>the date is cut offhmm i wonder why
>>730784930Black Aragorn, just like in my favorite TCG!
Just make an official version of that mount and blade mod
>>730784930https://store.steampowered.com/app/212500/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online/ already exists and it's perfect.
>>730784930Cool, as long as it doesn't have a female protag or a black elf or something I might look forward to it.
>>730785074Then what do you want,puzzle game similar to baba is you?
Forget about embracer just tell which studio can do justice to a LOTR rpg
>>730785261there's only one dev team I want to see take a crack at the lord of the rings ip
>>730784930Can't wait to run around a volumetric fog filled open field completing meaningless filler busywork missions, while UE5 stutters to a halt and Denuvo shreds by SSD to shit! Sounds great.
>>730785215first person shooter
>we wuz kangz n sheeeeeityou can keep it.
>>730784930El arabia>>730784995>yuck
>>730785213The main character is going to be a female nigger elf and you WILL like it goy.
>>730784995Hogwarts was mid as fuck but it somehow made like 1 billion dollars and sold a stupid amount for of multiple millions
I want to make a hobbit character that has a garden and cooks delicious hobbit food. That's it. I don't want to go on adventures or fight or any of that nonsense.
>>730784930its going to be another assassinscreedlike, isn't it?
>>730784930>Embracer group
>>730786193Bamham Mordor City was fun and okay, didn't overstay its welcome. Bamham Mordor Knight's pokemonshit is annoying and tedious because I'm autist that always go NUMBERS MUST GO UP.
>>730784930>embracer groupIts going to be some nig infested garbage
>>730786137I want to play as a pale elf woman with huge tits and nice, but not too huge ass.
>hm, orcs - gotta be>*whistles for magic eagle*
party system or GTFO
>>730784930>Its full of we wuzzery and troons
>>730786137I've got the perfect actor, sir
>>730784930>Lord of the RingsAlright>RPGYeah cool>Open worldNo thanks. That's always at the expense of game quality, you have to make everything blander and shittier to compensate for the open world aspect.
>>730786620>That's always at the expense of game quality, Not always
An open world LOTR game sounds terrible, there's already an MMO for that. Having large hub based maps would be far better
>>730786919Nah... always. Definitely always.
>>730785758Whoa, Anon - that's TOO BASED for Lord of the Retards!
>>730786620You don't play RPGs.
>>730785758>When Aragorn, KANG OF GANDOR ENTERS DA FIELD, YOU BE KANG NAO WE WERE KINGS AND STUFF
>>730785074let me guess it's unreal engine 5 too
>>730785182>can't click the link until I buy the expanded link clicking pack from the standing stone storefugg
>>730784930>embracerFuck
If another lotr game makes troon dwarfs Im gonna scream. I dont give a fuck what Tolkien said, dont make your female dwarves look exactly like men.
>>730784930>compete with hogwarts legacyHELL YEAHi can't wait to play a elf and walk around middle earth shouting elvish to reveal to me where all the lore dumps are. then i can unlock 15,000 gandalf challenges! oh man i can't wait to go rivendell where i can interact with nothing and no one before departing into even more open world monotony!!
>>730785074I don't get it, why doesn't the vored individual simply crawl out of her stomach now that she is asleep? Are they retarded?
>>730785758Why is this haradrim bearing the tokens of Elendil
>>730787474He's fo' representation, now wha am sayin?
>>730784930OH BOY, I can't wait for more nigger hobbits!
>>730785182Not since they pozzed it unfortunately
>>730787403Took the words out of my mouth, have a (((You)))
>>730784995Yep fpbp, it's gonna be an Ubislop collectathon
>>730784930>embracer group owns the rightsI'm not interested in gay trans niggers from outer space.
>>730786189It's insane how there isn't a shiredew valley game already where you can grow pumpkins the size of a pony, smoke leaf every day and have dozens of children with your plump hairy footed wife.
>>730788454Sounds like a good idea for a game. Basically, Starfield but good and based.
>>730787941What did they do? Worst shit I can remember was the tribe of peaceful orcs on the shield islands.>>730785182Agreed, there's not much that will top this since for almost all of its history the devs were massive Tolkien fans. After they ran out of material the writing quality dropped, like with the Mordor regions and whatever is going on in Umbar.>>730784930I don't see a way for this to be made by people who love the universe. I don't even see this being made by people who loved PJs movies. Think of the Rings of Power and how badly they fumbled some pretty amazing source material and legacy. You'll get shit writing, nonsensical diversity, modern themes and just general ugliness - visually and spiritually
>>730784995I mean HL showed that all you need is a big IP to draw the crowds in, the game itself can be the blandest shit imaginable.
>>730784930>EmbracerLMAO
>Embracerliteral BlackRock company like Warhorse
>>730784930>we're making shadow of mordor 3Not interested
Kinslaying or bust
>>730784930>oogabooga mudape investorsIt'll fail like all araboid projects hahaha
>The War in the Southimagine...
>>730785310Smartest anon
>>730786919Elden Ring was great, but you need a few things to replicate it.1. Your character can't die for some reason that fits with the universe. Resurrection is super rare for Tolkien, so one guy doing it potentially hundreds of times doesn't work.2. The world is desolate and filled with mad shambling idiots that attack you on sight.3. You fight and kill supernatural beings, up to and including gods, which are all also aggressive or mad.4. The land is a total shithole that is falling apart and stagnant.Tolkien's universe is basically operating on a Catholic perspective of a benevolent God and archangels.The only part of Tolkien's world that would fit thematically with Fromsofts style of game would be some sort of maia stuck in the partially sunken ruins of a scaled down Beleriand trying to find and destroy remnants of Mortgoths creatures to let the land finally sink. And frankly most people will never know or care about that shit, they're all here for the battle of helms deep or some other movie battle.
>>730788924Gondor gets beaten by haradrim lead by an ugly black lesbians and Aragorn has to repent of colonialism by letting millions of half-troll men into Ithilien.
>>730787365Female dwarfs should not be featured. My headcanon is that they are extremely rare and are being kept in rape caves to breed like cows.
>>730784930I don't want it
>>730788709Yeah. The "100 million investor from Abu Dhabi" sounds like a typical rich Arab dude that wants to make a huge buck out of LOTR game, because he might have heard of it or even saw the movies. But, we also know that such investors want the game to be "safe and inclusive" to pull the biggest possible audience - at least that's what they think and hear from advisors. We can only hope he said "no gay stuff in a game funded by MY money" like a good Muslim.
>>730789230Damn, that's really fucking gay.
>>730785261The guys that made Helen's Mysterious Castle.
>LOTR game released after DEM RANGZ OF POWAHNah, it will be ass.
>>730789096>Embracer >Modern day AAA game >Funded by some Abu Dhabi Muslim >expects a lore accurate and Catholic perspective work Boy, do I have news for you...
>>730785310>We had to delve into all the apendeces and extra works so that we made the breast size of Arwen, Eowen and Galadriel to be exactly as Tolkien envisioned.
>>730789175How did you manage to get a hold of this major leak?!
>>730784930Already had a LOTR open world RPG ffs. I liked it, but I want something different.Keep the Nemesis System though, that shit was great.
>>730789230Why are they so fucking predictable.
>>730785215Frankly, nothing. I'd like the gsmes industry to not rub their grubby paws all over it.
>>730785182I'll never get over how americans play the heck out of this and that star wars MMOJust let go of your childhood franchises and go play a real MMO like WoW or OSRS
>>730789220We truly don't know if they exist at all, when Aule created dwarves he made 7 dudes and that's all, they were not born like men or elves. For all we know they might be sculpting the new generations from stone and just pretend to have women in front of other races to not reveal their secrets, like how they don't teach anyone their language.
>>730784930>Embracer Group
Didn't the embracer group reported a big loss of money after doubling down on lame and gay shit?
>>730789717Yea, it's likely Dwarves are born inside mountains, out of stone. This would explain their obsession over deep mountain cities and possible riches inside them, likely needed to create dwarves. They need them to survive as a race. That's why that little drake that got into their mountain was such a huge issue.
POST SMAUG CARD RIGHT NOW
>>730788734It also helps when your IP has a track record of decent games as well. I've only ever played the first one on GBA and the lego bullshit but I've never really heard anyone shit on any of the HP games besides that weak ass Quidditch game they recently came out with, that was complete trash. Aside from that HP games are mostly positive experiences. I'm pretty sure the last LOTR games that came out was universally fucking hated and had a launch worse than Cyberpunk/NMS combined. Mindslop was the blunder of the century and even then I don't think that slop was hated as much as that Gollum bullshit.
>>730784930embracer group dead on arrival
>>730784930Oh boy, I can't wait for Rings of Power: The Video Game, where I can play as a black elf with a fade.
>>730790526Yea but right now with slop everywhere its pretty easy to make an half-decent intresting game and draw crowds.
>>730790526The last LoTR game released was either the Gollum one or the Tranny Hobbit one.
>>730784930if it's not a first person scrollslike or a third person soulslike then i really don't give a fuck. i expect lord of the rings: skyrim or elden ring or it's shit and i'm simply not playing.
>dragons dogma in the LOTR universe with good writingI can only dream
>>730784930I doubt anything they could make will be anywhere near as good as LEGO LotR, either as open world game or as a action one>Abu DhabiWait, this could be actually interesting, it's a heavily Christian centric setting but I could see some good results from this
>>730784930>Being made to 'compete with Hogwarts Legacy'Yay, can't wait for Tom Bombadil challenges and looting 100 x Ass-Covers of the Spider [Legendary].
>>730785182>LotRO >PerfectLol
>DAO top-down real-time combat with pause/gameplay in LOTR universe with good writingI can only dream and cum and fart and piss my pants
>>730791060>with good writingdude, it's 2026
>>730784930>open world rpgEmpty world with tacked on RPG elements like AssCreed.>compete with hogwarts legacyUbislop collectathon.>embracer grouplol lmao three strikes you're out
>>730784930we are so back indeed!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdh4O3TKoes
>>730784930>open world rpgBack to playing Battle For Middle Earth
>>730784930>EmbracerBlack hobbits incoming
>>730784930>embracer group*smacks lips*HOL UP
>>730789230Those subhumans sure love making things gay and lame while filling it up with token blackies
>>730789453I don't expect it, I was responded to anon saying From could make a good open world game with the franchise
>>730790436What, is Smaug a black dragon now with they/them pronouns?
>>730790526Yeah recent track record sucks.Shire game suckedReturn to Moria suckedGollum, sadly, sucked.All the good LOTR games were made a long time ago now.Shadow of War was 2017, and it had retarded story and diversity, but was mostly fun. You could tell they resented the boundaries of the story though.War in the North was 2012, I think. That was decent and the devs were clearly fans of the story.Lord of the Rings Online is probably still the gold standard for LOTR games, but that was launched in 2007.BFME1 and 2, are over 20 years old now, and the Two Towers and Return of the King movie tie in games are even older.
>>730789096>2.Just reload the save after death>3.You can change that, you don't always have to fight god>4.So? It's a different setting, story. You can change that too.The point that anon was trying to make completely went over your head.He was showing how it could be done and ER is a beautiful game.
A game that does nothing new and that we played several times over last gen. I am sick to death of this style of game.
>>730785261BGS
>>730791060>dragons dogma in the LOTR universewould be so kino. Too kino even, I don't think we deserve it
Can someone give me a quick rundown on LOTR games that I should check out. Ones that I've played already>fellowship of the ring PS2>two towers/return of the king on PS2>shadow of mordor/war
>>730793419Third Age if you like JRPGsLEGO LOTR if you want a comfy game that's also the best adaptation of the moviesBattle for Middle-Earth 1 and 2War in the North if you want some Dragon's Dogma like combat, specially if you have friends to play it with
>>730793468Thank you, I'll look them up.
>>730787403No one is forcing you to play retard
>>730793559>no one is forcing you to playAnd that is how you get Concords.
>>730793546np, have fun anon!
>>730785261Warhorse unironically
>>730791098>people mention fucking LEGO shovelware made as AD gaymes as the peak of LOTR games Unbelievably grim.
>>730793886Yeah, LOTR really needs underage homosexual relationships and niggers in middle-earth.
>>730793419>>730793468Second Lego LOTR.You can skip Battle for Middle Earth 1, just jump straight to 2. If you can't find a way to acquire it, The Age of the Ring mod will let you download and update everything in one launcher.Don't bother with Shadow of Mordor, it's not that good. Shadow of War is much better.War in the North is painful to play solo, but amazing with friends. Lord of the Rings Online is easily the best depiction of Middle Earth but it's a story focused MMO so expect to spend a looooooot of time before you get to the popular parts of the world like Rohan. Unless you buy a level booster.
>>730793905LoTR peaks in the books. Secondary media is all shit because it inherently tries to appeal to a retarded audience of mouthbreathers who can't read books.
>>730791671You just know Smaug will be included as a disabled dragon needing a special wheelchair for movement and it will be explained that he's actually a victim of dwarven greed and colonization. Quest: destroy the remaining dwarves.
>>730784930>LoTR gameUh-oh... UK isn't going to be happy about this one....
>>730794079fuck the uk
>>730793004Rollslop with some vague lore scraps thrown in, in LOTR universe, sounds just as bad.
>>730793964I don't blame all movie viewers, many watched them as kids before they had a chance to read the books, and sadly it cemented how certain things look and sound. I read the books in between the first and second movies and thankfully I have a much better idea of a lot of the story elements and characters introduced into those books, but it took a long time to not think of gormless boring Legolas, insane Denethor, comic relief Gimli and everything looking like New Zealand scrubland
eh, a good lotr open world game can't exist right now because they would fill the whole world with black and gay people, and black gay people.Best thing right now is lotro but its a mmo which sucks, i wish there was an offline mode and a way to choose expansions.Its incredible how much lore i know now since i played lotro, very immersive
>>730794183Vague lore scraps would unironically work for something set in the first age.Zanzi-quendi... Forgive me...
>>730794280>and black gay peoplenonsense.the black people would be straight, virile, strong and in every way superior to their white counterparts.only the whites would be faggots and weak in general.
>>730794357get with the times, current woke propaganda is making broken black bucks
>>730794079How did LotR even become a far right favorite? The heroes express extremely soft values for fantasy monarchies, all human servants of evil like Dunlendings who ravaged Rohan get away with it after they say they are sorry about it, and Frodo wanted to forgive Saruman even after what he did to the Shire. Something like Worm Ouroboros (1922) by E.R. Eddison would be much more fitting far right heroic fantasy, it unironically glorifies Nietzschean supermen and might making a right.
>>730785182LOTRO retail is dogshit, why would you ever play that trash when there's Echoes of Angmar running the true game before they fucked everything up
>>730784930>RPG game
>>730793332Anon, there are people here who only play Fromslop and want every new game to be rollslop as well. It's like JRPG fans that just endlessly want the same shit, over and over again, with the only thing subject to change being anime waifus designs.
>>7307941961 and 2 are good movies. I really don't like most of the changes they did for 3.
>>730785261Bethesda. If the game is easy to mod, then fans will fix it.
>>730794489I don't think you understand right wing values at all.LOTR as a fantasy world is basically fundamentally built off of right-wing values, and dreams.>theistic system>good vs evil>individual effort making a massive difference>acceptance of your position in life and the worldIt's a stark contrast to leftist collectivism and malicious envy.The entire world in LOTR is basically built off of right wing dreams, of how someone on the right would wish the world worked.
>>730784930>open world
>>730793951>Don't bother with Shadow of MordorFuck you.SoM is a much tighter experience, it's worth playing first. If you want more of it SoW is right there.But the systems is all SoW has going for it, SoM has a lot more story and adventure to it.The boss fights aren't good, but at least their over quickly.
>>730793696>It's FFVII, only shit
>>730794658I get why they did it (budget), but I was really disappointed in the Pelennor Fields of the film. in the book it is an inhabited farmland that also has outer fortifications, but in the movie they just made it into a desolate and undeveloped wasteland.
>>730794790>huge city>literally not a single visible farm for miles on endOne of the less egregious aspects of the movies, for sure.
>>730784930>rpg game
>>730785047>but the management at WB is full of retarded faggots for not making DLCs or a second gamethey're supposedly still making a sequel, I'm guessing that's why OPs image says "compete" I agree the game was begging for dlc and they just ditched it which was crazy though
>>730794790That especially annoyed me. Movie also did a pretty shit job with explaining to your average viewer why the Steward of Gondor acted like a retard.
>>730793924This but unironically. The setting could use a proper shake-up. >>730793951"No!" >>730793964Unfortunately, I must agree with you.
>>730784930Please dont be some ubislop style game. Make it an actual rpg.
They should just make a CRPG with adapted The One Ring 2E rules (they will not).
>>730784930>can't play as the bad guy(s)fucking DROPPED
>>730784930The one thing I want is a ~35 year old elf gf.Tolkien elves reach mental maturity at 2 and phyiscal maturity at 70
>>730793964>I'm smart because....I read le bookLOTR is a prime example of WORDS WORDS WORDS
>>730795005You're the gayest queer in this thread
Sorry, Tolkein is dead. I don't engage with non-canonical works.
>>730785310I kneel, that'd be awesome.
>>730794302Morgothu-sama... I, the nameless New Zealand scrublord, kneel to your superior power! We, the orcish people, shall reclaim our inheritance from the evil, capitalist imperialists that are busy destroying the land for its riches!
>>730794448Then why do American White Women vastly prefer black men (aside from dogs)?
>>730795084>WORDS WORDS WORDSYes, books are composed of words.
>>730794489>what he did to The Shire Well, what did he do? Allow Sam to fuck the hottest, shortstack, delicious hairy feet girl? Make the returning Hobbits local heroes which allowed them to fuck extremely hot, young, willing and wet village girls? Sounds like the Ultimate Evil, indeed...
>>730795234l m a o
>>730794790It's not that they "made" it into a wasteland. It's just the country they recorded that part in is a fucking desolate shithole.
>blacks/indians etc are now everywhereNo, i will not buy your shit. I will rewatch LOTR trilogy tho, soon
>>730795005>The Lich King in the background Wew. Nice, uninspired copyslop.
>>730795084Twitter has rotted your brain.
>>730784995fippo del bippo
>>730795073You'd be hanged for pedophilia in LOTR universe.
>>730794720>Fucking hippies made the books popular, much to the dismay of Tolkien.>Instead of getting easy 10/10 hairy hippy fans plus assorted STDs, he ranted about how gay modern catholic mass was.>Also his wife liked dinner parties and he fucking hated it.
>>730795536>Sterile Cuckson Lmao, these names are getting more creative.
>>730793924>tourist doesn't know
>>730795398In the movies yeah. In the books Saruman (and Grima) escape after getting BTFO and take over the Shire enslaving the hobbits and burning a good chunk of it. That's what Frodo and the others return to, instead of an untouched by war Shire the movies show.
I think the enemy variety would be super fucking dull for an open world game.
>>730793951>skip Battle for Middle Earth>Don't bother with Shadow of Mordor
>>730795970He was British. It makes sense he hated dirty hippie druggies and boring teafests filled with local rumor-spreading housewives and their supremely cucked, yes-man husbands. >>730796026Thank God the movies are the new canon and retconned the shit parts of the books.
>>730794658The ghost army and Sauron not appearing really does bring the movie down a notch. Thankfully it doesn't completely ruin it though. I don't really know what a hypothetical solution is to this as even the extended edition runs on for nearly 4 hours, and still there's plenty of stuff cut from the books. I guess a two parter could be the answer though I know that's not a popular idea.
Why isn't LOTR allowed to have brown people?
>>730796057Putting LEGO shit above the rest should tell you everything. A manchild still playing with bricks, buying overpriced LEGO sets as an "investment" and shilling them for free.
>>730796160Funniest thing Tolkien hated was Disney, because he hated Disney cartoons for sanitizing the original fairy tales. If he lived until The Little Mermaid he probably would given his typical sophisticated complaints about how he knew it was shit when the Sea Witch didn't cut the mermaid's tongue out with a knife.
>>730784930>open world RPG>modern era Is it set in one area or all of ME? Do you control a party? If not its missing a massive part of the appeal of LotR. Are we making an OC that rewrites LotR? At that point just make a new fucking IP if youre not going to actually make LotR. What id like is coop slop, something like MnBs Full invasion mod as a full game. Set it during different battles and you play as generic soldiers and its like 16 player or something and enemies come in waves etc. I want a game that is distant enough from the actual meat of LotR but can focus on gameplay stuff in that setting. I just dont care about the implications of a modern open world RPG made by the west. If it was something like Dragons Dogma where its a party you run around with that would be cool, but we knows that isnt what its going to be.>>730796267Because thats how it was written. Make something new instead of shoehorning modern views into something that is established. It always goes like this;>claim to like thing>"yea but it needs to change so Im in it"So do you like it or not, you said it was good before you were in it, so it was fine, leave it alone. Make something new.
I might get this if we get a mod that fixes every other NPC being a nigger or shitkin
>>730794720It works the opposite way too. Sauron and Saruman represent capitalism, they want to industrialise the land, destroy the environment and enslave the population to toil in the mines. Meanwhile, the good guys fight for the rights of everyone, for a rules-based world where the rich and powerful can't annex, buy or otherwise own the weak, like Saruman wanted to do with the Shire.
Tolkien is spinning in his grave. His work being turned into slop is the worst fate imaginable.
>>730785758Tolkein hated racists btw
>>730784930Dragons Dogma but LotR with the Shadow of War nemesis system.
>>730784930>3rd personwont even look at it
>730796160Come on man, put a little effort in your bait
>>730793119>Well, no, sir. That might be going a bit too far.>Shut up, Jenkins. We NEED to figure out how to meet our Black Magic quota.>Ok, I think I have an idea, Mr. Rosewater.
>>730796393Industrialism and technological progress used to be liberal bullshit. Tolkien's ideal conservatism was pastoral countryside and the cultured rural aristocracy being fair and gentle with the prospering peasants.
>>730784995>>730784930/threadHogwarts Legacy, outside of its visuals, was utter garbage
>>730796267Go make your own middle earth with nothing but brown people.
>>730785261Nobody if you actually want a game where you can walk from the Shire to Mordor. Best you could hope for is some indie dev making a simulator about running The Prancing Pony or the logistics of getting all of the elves onto boats to the Undying Lands.
>>730796498Yeah, but that's not what the modern right wing is anymore.
>>730796636And?
>>730796396anyone not including minorities in their fantasy writings is racist now btw
>>730789717Dwarves can't carve new dwarves, only Eru can create and bestow life.
>>730796395>embracer:Swedish>backed by Arab gold>part of it is owned by Amazon, which has thrown money at the most expensive show of all time just to rewrite charcters and events>trying to comercialize the IPId like to live in a world where people made more "cultural" stuff, where it was specifically made for "your people", LotR was made by someone who lamented his peoples legends were lost, I feel like if people actually just went off and did this for their own people we would see more authentic IPs. Everything being derivative of LotR is why everything feels like it isnt authetnically the creators vision or outlook.Reminder that America has now become the epitome of what Tolkien hated about the west and was an English nationalist Roman Catholic, LotR would be cancelled if he was alive today. His work only endures becuase he is dead, much like HP Lovecraft and CS Lewis. If youre going to make something, make sure you leave a note in the final word section saying that anyone who adapts your work and tries to change it has not made an adaptation, but a rewrite
>>730796763And Dwarves gained life from Aule, one of the Ainu, hence why it may be possible they work in completely different ways from humans and elves.
>>730797006To be fair, the degradation of Tolkien's work has been happening since the Jackson films. Turning it into a franchise was the end.
>>730797050Yes. Ill not deny that I love those movies but it was never meant to be turned into a franchise any more than Robin Hood or King Arthur.
>>730797006Tolkien and Lewis would likely be cancelled today by both leftists and other Christians for idolatry and sinfulness
>>730784930I would buy it for she
>>730796708Nothing, just a bit weird that the it resonates with the right wing nowadays.>protecting the environment>equal rights for all>looking after the weak>working together with different racesDoesn't really seem things that the modern right wing champions
>>730797153>equal rights for allWhere the fuck do you see this in LOTR? Are you insane or something? Aragorn becomes a fucking king. Gondor is a damned monarchy.>looking after the weakAgain, where do you see this?>working together with different racesFantasy races who in no way represent the nature of niggers and jews. No jew would as openly champion the destruction of the ring and saving of goyim the way Gimli does.
>>730797006>note in the final word section saying that anyone who adapts your work and tries to change it has not made an adaptation, but a rewriteWell he and the Tolkin Estate have made it very clear that nothing besides nothing besides the books is or will ever be canon.
>>730797145>todayGood old Jack Chick called LotR demonic decades ago already, though it might have been because Tolkien was a Catholic who Chick considered Satan worshipers.
>>730797152>using (((wizards))) of the coast artYikes.
>>730797153The different races in ME are not representative of different races across the planet anon, its about the cultures in Europe.>those guys are greedy>those guys are pompous>those guys are isolationist>those people have a history of disliking us>those people were once allies>those people joined the enemy because of something our ancestors did to themTheyre not representing peoples skin colors they are talking about cultures that live next to one another. England use to have wars on wars with itself, from town to town they were their own kingdom, they eventually all came together to form an alliance under one king.Its not about fucking niggers siding with Jews for christ sake. You can extrapolate that, because its a good wholesome message, but to say that was the point is fucking retarded and not at all what it was. It is only the perspective of someone who does not know history that would think this, and thinks everything in history revolves around white people and their relationship with "others".
>>730797452Chick was the kind of person that if he was around today would be making chud comics. We have lost a generation of "icons" to anonymity.
>>730796267But it has. They're called orcs. >>730796361Unsettlingly based. He was right back then and is right today.
>>730797268The Shire is basically like Greenland. And what Aragorn does is give them maximum independence, even forbidding non-hobbits to enter the borders, which are protected by rangers, even though he could easily go in and take that bountiful land if he wanted it.Meanwhile, the current American right wants to annex Greenland for it's resources, and forcibly "Americanise" the natives.And in regards to NATO, which is like the Gondor-Rohan alliance, again the average right-winger seems to think it's a bad thing to have a strong military alliance against countries like Russia, which is in effect the Orcish army.
>>730797665You're retarded m8
>>730797671God, I hope you're shitposting with this garbage.
>>730797671Ukie go away.
>>730796396Tolkien was pretty racist himself.
>>7307852612015 CDPRRIP
>>730797760Aragorn would lead the troops himself to beat back the russkies. Cope and seethe.
>>730797938Ukie please, you're too cute and stupid to engage in debate.
>>730796393>It works the opposite way tooYes. But they are not saying that.
>>730796396>>730797765Tolkien was not really an anti-racist, but he was an anti-imperialist. He was against apartheid for example because he did not think whites have any business being in Africa in the first place. As he wrote in a letter in December 1943:>“I love England (not Great Britain and certainly not the British Commonwealth (grr!))” ().
>>730784930>Leaked x game>Only news/info of x game leaked not the game itselfCan't tell if this is retarded Americans with poor English skills or an ESLism that I'm seeing more and more.
>Adventurer! Bree has run out of longbottom leaf>Please venture forthwith to the barrow downs and harvest 5 plants for us>Quest Received: First Steps - Bring 5 Longbottom Leaf to the Prancing Pony
>>730798023Basically this. I dunno why chud fans of Tolkien are so desperate to say he wasn’t racist, dude literally had the entirety of the non-European swarthy/Asiatic coded races of Middle-Earth wholeheartedly throw in with their version of Satan to fight the good guy European coded nations. Fucking CS Lewis was less racist by showing examples of foreign coded races having good and honourable people in their ranks while Tolkien never does even with his throwaway lines.
>>730790389>that little drakeHe was rather on the small side wasn't he.
>>730796763So then where do the other dwarves come from?
