THEY FUCKING KILLED HOUSE
who
>>730787967no idea *who* yet, just that the end credits sequence shows his pod in the Lucky 38 with like a long-dead arm hanging out
>>730787931erm... house faked his death to avoid prison so he could spend time with wilson during his final days
>>730787967The show writers. It's not a big surprise, considering they've been killing off every faction and character in FNV on a per-episode basis.
>>730787931Are we going to complain about HALO, Devil May Cry, Borderlands and other shitty video game cash grab tv shows? It's just usual woke Hollywood trash, you can avoid trauma by simply not watching
>>730787931After the first season, I won't even acknowledge this shows existence. It wasn't just shit by fallout standards, it was shit by every film standard as well.
>>730788013We know his pod didn't have windows and was at the top of the Lucky 38, which is much taller than the Gomorrah across the street. That's not House. You've been tricked.
the first season was so bad..why would anyone watch this?
>>730788112My guy, if you think the showrunners give half a hunk of shit about that kind of detail accuracy, I got bad news for you.
>>730787931todd desperately wanting the show to tie into the canon for some reason is embarrassing
In an ideal world this show would be as ridiculed as the Halo show, but the Fallout fanbase got replaced long ago
>>730788049The difference is that Bethesda very loudly stated that everything in the show was canon, and that all further games in the series would be a part of that canon. The example you mentioned were all safely siloed off into their own little continuities unrelated to the games.
>>730788186Nobody who watches the show still has played the games. It's mostly just newcomers who saw the first season and wanted to continue watching. Apparently they're turning on the show for their own reasons, though. Bad writing and such.
>>730788201they’re just wiping the slate completely clean to set up for a larger franchising cinematic universe imo. they don’t give two shits about the games
>>730787931It's worse... I get the suspicion that the "House" we know from the game, and the one you see there dead in the pod, is actually the body double. I say because there's still a clip out there from later in the season, where ghoul Coop is in the 38 penthouse, and big green screen Mr. House face is visible in the background. That hasn't happened yet, so real-House is presumably still alive. So the "House" you meet in the game and who was in the pod beneath the 38, visible in the credits now dead, assumedly was the body double. Meanwhile the real House either had some contingency plan beyond even the pod, or possibly just wholesale uploaded/duplicated his consciousness into a computer? He mentioned as much in the episode
>>730787931Is that surprising? They already rewrote him as a completely ridiculous, mustache-twirling cartoon villain because modern writing is allergic to nuance.
>>730788112House's life support chamber and pod weren't at the top of the tower, it was far below.
>>730788223If you play any Bethesda product after Fallout 76 or Starfield, then you are already terminally ill. Who cares? They could hire Sweet Baby Inc to make every aspect of the game and it would be equally shit or boring. Bethesda's last good games were Fallout 2 and Skyrim, now you just praise a dead shell like Blizzard or Naughty Dog
>Ghouls are basically Deadpool nowDid i miss something? I thought that Ghouls were just regular people with fucked up skin and radiation resistance at best
>>730788340Wrong. The room is at the top. You go through the door to the room behind it. Not through the elevator to the basement. The layout of the upper floor clearly accommodates the room.
>>730787931okie dokie
Why is every vidya show always so fucking bad?
>>730788421Ghouls are a very resilient and have a massive lifespan so I guess it's not crazy to give them other cockroach-like qualities
>sets look like some cheap theme park bullshit>power armor is weak as piss against anything>ghoul can take down power armor with easethere are also plenty of nonsensical plotholesi watched 3-4 eps of the first season and dropped it
>>730788421Been like that since the first episode of the first season. Ghouls are treated as zombies who can tank any bullets that aren't headshots.
>>730788486writers are like 90% women. I use that term very loosely
>>730788494Might as well, Bethesda basically said that Ghouls can live for centuries without food (unless the plot demands it)
>>730788456>Not through the elevator to the basement.They are both elevators that go down. The upper floor layout literally doesn't accommodate it
>>730788456The design of the life support chamber is identical to the area/rooms of the basement.
>>730788486Writers who barely know shit about the IP and/or think that games are stupid and think they can do better
fuck are you on about, *I* killed House
LEGION BROS WE WON
So is the NCR gone or not? The home alone fag worded it like they're still actively fighting each other, but the show showed us that there are like 5 or 6 proper soldiers and countless other exNCR doing their own thing while the legion is more or less the same
>>730788315But like... why? For what reason? If you go by the Bethesda idea of >Civilization returning to the wastes? NO! BAD!! DESTROY IT!!! NCR? NUKE! LEGION? CIVIL WAR COLLAPSE!you can sort of follow the logic for other factions. But House is limited to Vegas, and specifically the Lucky 38. They didn't just dust Vegas off the map and out of existence, so why not leave him alive as a character to use whenever there's a story benefit to do so, at any point ahead or behind in the setting/timeline? It's not like they can't come up with any reason why civilization never advances beyond Vegas itself, when they already crippled it with a deathclaw infestation.
>>730788593<mfw when the legion
>>730788508boy am i glad i havent wasted a single second watching this trash, that clip of michael emerson slowly trotting away from a shooting turret convinced me it wasnt gonna be worth watching
>>730787931>mfw Fisto of all things, made an appearanceShitty show or not, credit where it's due, you got a good laugh out of me, showrunners.
>>730788667The NCR will come back, the black BoS guy is from Shady Sands, hates the BoS now, and was shown wearing power armor with a Ranger helmet in the trailers, he also has the macguffin
>>730788570It's clearly right behind the door. Looking like a backroom is explainable by the fact that it is literally a backroom.
i havin't seen any nightkins/super mutant in the tv show, you think there just not gonna use them, or save them for the next season that takes place in DC? i don't believe i even seen any of the natives monsters from new vegas in season 2.
>>730788773I could see the humor if the show wasn’t already grossly oversexualized
>>730788773
>>730788667Basically what's happened is the NCR central government was nuked, but the NCR was large enough and culturally strong enough that isolated parts of it carried on as normal.
>>730788667Effectively the NCR exists as some shattered isolated groups, like Moldy's bunch at the observatory in season 1 finale. There has been rumor leaks that the NCR has been biding their time and return in full-force at the end of the season, but without that having happened yet, who's to say.All that's confirmed is the first part, that as of yet, the NCR technically exists but as fractionalized small holdouts across it's old territory expanse.
>>730788494>Ghouls are a very resilientOnly to radiation and aging, not to bullets or lasers or knives.
>>730788773Le memberberries.
>>730788852They said there's no one left in the NCR like 5 times. Everyones dead.
>>730788872>There has been rumor leaks that the NCR has been biding their time and return in full-force at the end of the seasonRead >>730788781
>>730788807The secret door? That's literally not possible considering the door is an elevator, and even if it was just a door, the room would then break space with the main elevator
>>730788884They can heal quickly while being irradiated, too. Seems like they forgot that the healing thing doesn't work outside of radiation zones, and that radiation speeds up feralization.
>>730788382>Beth>Fallout 2
>>730788915I feel like 1 town being destroyed, even though it was the captial, shouldn't be enough to break up a whole nation. The NCR had all of california and some of mexico.
Bugeye cunt and crew will never face actual adversity huh
>>730788593No, you haven't.Holy fuck, you haven't.
>The NCR is gone*****>The legion is there i guess>House might not even be the guy we saw in NV>The Brotherhood are retarded Space Marine dudebros >Oh yeah the Enclave is still thereIt's almost like they're saying fuck you to everyone they can
>>730788925No, you remember wrong. Go to the room with House's pod in it. It's clearly on the top floor, behind a door. No elevator.
>>730788982Yes, that's what everybody keeps saying, but a) the showrunner is a lorelet who legit thinks NCR is just Shady Sands and b) Todd Howard doesn't give a fuck.So all the NCR with its infrastructure has magically ceased to exist.
>>730788995how fucking dare you say that about oppressed minorities
>>730789004Meanwhile all the SBI characters are treated like Rey Skywalker tier gods and will eventually replace vault boy as the face of Fallout
>>730789015>No, you remember wrong.>No elevator.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFet6u2BVEstick it in your fucking ass.
>>730788982you think the woman who's directing the show knows any form of nuance or argument? in women's minds, when the base of an army blows up it means everyone is dead.
Despite Walton Goggins and Kyle MacLachlan, you still can't make me watch this piece of shit.
>>730788050the mobile game got women curious about the lore so a braindead story got thrown together where a cute white woman gets fucked by niggers and gets the ick from the legion
>>730789015Dude go back and check out the room his pod is in, it's an utterly massive open support space. There's no way it could possibly be up the tower
>>730788781>kill off NCR>only to bring them back and make them the "protagonist" factionJesus Christ, dead might have been better
>>730788889the show is very ripe with those, in a way like >nuh-uh, you can't say we don't understand the source material and are progressively raping established lore and tone of the series as the result, look at all those references we put from the games that we totally didn't get by searching "fallout nv meme reddit" on goggle
>>730788679Because they're not trying to make a show about FNV, they're making a show about their own characters in a vaguely Fallout-inspired setting. This is one of the main reasons movie/TV adaptations of games and (often) books are so shit: the writers are there to show off their writing. They want to make their own thing. They don't want to do an adaptation of an existing story, they just want to write whatever they feel like, unconstrained by the original work which 99% of the time, they don't give a shit about. Even sequels to old series are this way, it feels like modern Star Wars and Star Trek only exist to pad resumes and utterly shit on the original works for which the writers seem to show genuine contempt. None of the stuff you're talking about matters, the writers don't know what that stuff is, and they'd just think it's faggot nerd shit if you told them. Even retards on /v/ will keep sucking off Goggins after he said he has zero interest in Fallout as a game and doesn't give a shit what ghouls are in that universe. He, like everybody else involved, is just there for a paycheck and another note on their resume.
Ok place your bets people, how will they fuck up the Courier>Actually, there was no Courier and that's why everything is fucked>The Courier fucked off and no one knows what happened with him>The Courier died (bonus points if it's a pthetic death)>The Courier ended up as a junkie
>>730788421Fully equipped power armor brotherhood soldiers can also get one shot by a ghoul with revolver, this show is a giant shitpost and make no sense
>>730789080I was just pretending not to know in order to test your FNV knowledge. Congrats, you passed.
>>730789124They were always "the protagonist" faction, since Fallout 1.
>>730787931I don't consider any of the credits scene to be canon. They always look like a bunch of random assets thrown together.
>>730789080pardon my tism but the light coming in from the slats would imply that this room is above ground, right? the securitron demo area is underground
>>730789128>Because they're not trying to make a show about FNV, they're making a show about their own characters in a vaguely Fallout-inspired setting.I get that, I get that. What I'm asking is, why would Bethesda let them do it? Why not a case of "Oh you want to rape and pillage and obliterate the entire setting, for your own shitty-writer reasons? Well go right ahead! Feel free to do anything but kill Mr. House!"Doing so just eliminates a potential future resources for the setting/games, if ever Bethesda wanted/needed to roll out House again for some use or benefit.
>>730788814This episode put a spotlight on FEV so maybe they're saving them for a big moment like the deathclaws since they would need to be entirely CGI as well, I think one showed up in a background wanted poster though.
>>730789164Third option Fallout NV is like the Halo 3 ODST of the franchise and Rookie died a pathetic, anticlimactic death in some obscure comic. One of the most disrespectful ways to go, both in lore and IRL.
He’s transferred his consciousness to the mainframe. The main problem is the Enclave nuking the world and returning again.
You know how people theorized that the Halo show was originally a Mass Effect show script that got repurposed? I wonder if this show was originally something Borderlands
>>730789232I believe those are supposed to just be artificial lighting. The demo area is definitely underground, and the control room with the life-pod is also underground, either above or below the demo area.
>>730789164i fully expect to find him hanging on a cross, recognizable only by his/hers pip boy and a mojave express bag with a large 6 on it
>>730789283just subtle enough to be true
>>730789274>I wonder if this show was originally something BorderlandsI've seen like 3 different critics independently come to the same conclusion, weirdly
>>730789184I should have clarified a *Bethesda* protagonist faction.One with all their edges sanded off. I like them because they're a "good" faction with obvious faction, not the horseshit they'll likely turn them into. If they do go that route they'd basically be Fallout 3 Brotherhood or the Minutemen.
>>730789164BOS Grand Canyon Elder is the Courier
>>730789183You better fucking believe I'd pass, fag
>>730789303It isn't that much of a stretch really>Wacky comedic shenanigans in a scifi postapocaliptic setting
>>730789242Because Bethesda doesn't care about Fallouts that are not their own.Also, in the lore 60% of America is an unknown, the showrunners could've picked any place in the US to make their own shit. But they picked California/Nevada, two places with the biggest amount of lore attached to them. And now they are surprised the fandom is angry they are fumbling this lore.They brought this on themselves.
>>730789350>Because Bethesda doesn't care about Fallouts that are not their own.They care about money though, more than anything. That's why, as much as they hate it, they always keep dragging out the NCR ranger veteran armor to advertise and sell in all related media. The same with House, they could've just kept wheeling him out and people would go "I MEMBER!" and throw money.
>>730789128>the writers are there to show off their writing.This has been a problem in every type of media since 2010
>>730789242>why would Bethesda let them do it?Dude I wish I had your optimism about Bethesda's care for their IPs. Have you played Fallout 4? Are you familiar with ESO lore? Bethesda does not give a fuck, Todd's #1 priority since Morrowind has been "a larger audience". Every single game has been more dumbed-down than the last because they want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It does not get much lower than a female-protagonist amazon TV show. Todd already said the show is the new canon going forward, he could not care less what old fans think because they're a tiny % of the total people buying his dogshit.
>>730789164>>The Courier fucked off and no one knows what happened with himI'm going with some variation of this. At best I expect just an offhand single-sentence mention of "a courier" by some major character, but they may actually not even mention it at all.
>>730789404Normally i don't like youtube rant videos, but i remeber watching a video that said modern Fallout is just a merch brand now, and i couldn't agree more
>>730787931You mean courier did, right?
>>730787931René Auberjonois died years ago.
>>730789404Why should they bother if they can just keep slapping Fallout 4 power armor everywhere? Now they have the bug girl and the ghoul they can monetize.Why should they sully their hands with that icky Black Isle imagery?
>>730787931How many players killed House?
>>730789184>>730789316*they're a "good" faction with obvious flaws
>>730789474>Now they have the bug girl and the ghoul they can monetize.When typing this were you aware that they added them to CoD?
>>730789419>Are you familiar with ESO lore?The fact that Apocrypha is littered with elder scrolls will never not piss me off. If Hermaeus got his claws/tentacles on an elder scroll he’d dissect that shit yesterday and learn how to reshape reality with him as its eternal master. Fuck nu-thesda and fuck whatever “”””””canon”””””” is established in their live-service goyslop.
>>730789496>he didnt kill all of the faction leaders, before getting the yes man ending
>>730789474>Why should they sully their hands with that icky Black Isle imagery?Because they are incapable of recapturing the lighting in a bottle, of the NCR ranger armor design. For whatever reason, the outfit resonated with fans, and as much as Bethesda might hate it, they know it's a money-maker so they *keep* dragging out the ranger armor to advertise and monetize. I know Bethesda would rather that none of it existed and everyone who liked it burned in hell, but as said, as much as they may hate it, they love money more.
There are things I dont like, such as NCR beeing toast and whatnot. But the show is pretty good. This episode a lot of thing came together and the mystery starts to unfold more. As a fanboy I enjoyed it.
Come home white manhttps://youtu.be/Z0wL6DXIvoc?si=eTLa7Xa3WXaA-NtT
>>730789547>ranger armorIrrelevant. Its t50, the face of the series.
>>730789536The only thing that pisses me off about ESO is that the faggots running UESP - which used to be good - include lore from it. I go to look up some random bit of trivia and have to scan the sources every time to make sure it's from a real video game and not zenimax fanfiction. Tamriel Rebuilt is more deserving of canonicity than ESO.
>>730789164>the courier is a synth and destroyed all the factions on behalf of the institute
>watching hollykike tv desecration of actual art (video games)jesus fucking christdo anything else
>>730789603Wrong. Its t60
>>730789547>Because they are incapable of recapturing the lighting in a bottle, of the NCR ranger armor designAnd the OG Enclave APA. Nobody cares about that idiotic Enclave PA in FO3, but everybody loves the APA from FO2 and NV, to the point Bethesda begrudingly brought that design into FO4 for no reason.But still, Bethesda would rather prefer their own imagery was popular, rather than the one made by Black Isle.
>>730789636God, what a lorebreak that was in FO4. It shows that Bethesda hasn't cared about the lore since 2016.
>>730789419TES fans seems to like at least some of the lore addidtion in ESO
>>730789748Worse in 76, there's like 5 other new power armor sets, and particularly one developed by the BoS literally right after the nuclear apocalypse
I just realized I'm racist to supermutants because they look dumb and brutish. I would've joined the unity if muties were hot.
>>730789614The worst part (in any media, not just Bethesda slop) is that the new, low quality, blatantly globohomo shit is pushed really hard to be the true official canon. It’s almost as if there’s a conspiracy to use beloved media to turn fans into useful gentile pawns.
>>730789748Bethesda never cared about the Fallout lore to begin with. Even in FO3 it's very clear Emil has only skimmed the Fallout wiki a bit and that was the extent of his research.
>>730787931The real takeaway is, House directly attributes deathclaws to the Enclave, and says he's in opposition to them. So if the Strip is overrun by deathclaws, is that possibly an action by the Enclave post-war to fuck over House? Either literally controlling them, or just letting them loose in the direction of Vegas?There's mention of them coming from Quarry Junction, but who's to say they weren't agitated or outright directed towards the Strip.
>>730789840Fallout has never been anything but a grab bag of recognizable things they can smear all over a given product to sell to idiots who will gleefully go "I know that thing! I saw it and I claaaaapped!!" Anyone who is surprised by how hard they're buttfucking the IP with this show hasn't been paying attention.
>>730787931goodnext they need to canonize the courier as a straight white male, kill him off in the most pathetic way, and also make sure his corpse was raped and full of semen
>>730790034revisionist bullshit like this is always pathetic when you were actually there for it.
>>730788201Its well known that Todd hates New Vegas overshadowing 3 and 4. He wants to destroy its legacy and build his own shit game on top of the ashes.
>>730789614TR modders openly state they have no interest in following established lore and are going with their own headcanon.You can't blame them. They don't have the manhours to spare to update the game reactively.You are correct about ESO though. Neither one deserves to be considered canon.
>>730790173Very probably, they said F5 is to take place on the west coast. If not literally upon the ruins of NV (rumors are the setting is to be San Francisco), then watch NV get a DLC where it's rape and ruin can be focused on
I don't really get what is the purpose of this series besides shitting on New Vegas for some reason.
so did Idon't care
>>730790328That is it's entire purpose. S1 was a gamble that paid off. They clearly didn't plan for it so didn't know what to do, and so Todd stepped up and was like>"Just fuck New Vegas's shit up."
>>730790126What the fuck are you talking about? Its been incredibly obvious they don't give the slightest shit about Fallout as an IP, and only care about whatever recognizable aspect of it they can merchandise, since Fallout 3.
>>730790328Bethesda hates New Vegas because Fallout fans lauded it as far better than Fallout 3 and Fallout 4.Fallout 76 came out and obliterated Bethesda's reputation, and Starfield made that even worse. The show is confirmed to be part of Bethesda's new canon for the games, so their next Fallout game will assumedly follow on from the events of the show.You can already meet one of the characters (the ghoul) from the show in Fallout 76. They are setting up their own canon to make sure nobody is hoping for anything in New Vegas to be relevant.
>>730790418>It is impossible for him to have been there for 1, 2, Tactics, or BoSThe Redditor apologist mind
>>730790418NTA but you are being retarded. They absolutely do care about "the IP", just their own vision of it. They dislike the "post-post apocalypse" stuff where new societies grow, and instead like the Fallout 3 style of things where it's as though the bombs dropped 50 years ago and everyone still lives in a shitty shanty town.They absolutely do have a vision for it, it's just a shitty one.
>>730788382>the common slogan from shills being "who cares" I hope you jeets understand that you out yourselves each time you do that.
>>730790126Literally all Fallout 3 is is memberberries of the first two games with a retarded find dad plot thrown on top of it.>member radscorpions (even though the east coast doesn't have scorpions)>member deathclaws (even though the east coast doesn't have Jackson's Chameleons)>member the BoS (no, not the ones from Fallout 1, the ones from Texas or something)>member the Enclave>member super mutants and centaurs (even though the master made super mutants and centaurs at Mariposa)>member how you needed to get water in Fallout 1 main quest>member how you needed to find a GECK in Fallout 2 main questThe only thing Fallout related that had any right being in an East coast Washington setting was Vault-Tec, some Vaults and probably some Enclave holdouts or an outpost or something, but not an entire Enclave army that shouldn't exist after being genocided in Fallout 2. Fallout 3 is literally just a series of marketing bullet points. Credit where it's due at least 4 has some original factions.
>>730789350>fandom is angryOutside /polv/ no one is angry and its the best received video game adaption ever. Fuck off
Not canonizing an end for New Vegas so as not to disrespect player choices but making them irrrelevant and meaningless by making everything go to shit is certainly an interesting approach. If they were going to re-post-apocalyze everything, why not canonize one of the actual endings or hinted developments from NV such as the Courier siding with Elijah and swarming Vegas with the Cloud, the Courier nuking the NCR and Legion and Tunnelers swarming Vegas, or the Courier just being apeshit and destroying everything, or just canonizing the cut ending where the Courier just fucks off?
>>730787931Im happy Caesar was dead before we seen him in the show. Thank fucking God they dont have the chance to ruin him.Legion chads, we keep winning!
>>730790657>Fallout 3 doesn't care about the loreWell, yes, you've proven my point.
>>730790592No, don’t let them understand. They’ll adapt.
>>730790791The Legion is so fucking based that Caesar foresaw the utter dogshit of the show and took it upon his shoulders to sacrifice himself, so as to not be ruined by the show, and thus preserve the Legion. Even in death, he still wins, and the Legion endures.
>>730790463>You can already meet one of the characters (the ghoul) from the show in Fallout 76
>>730790657>at least 4 has some original factions.and all of them are shit and retarded lol
>>730790845You think jeets are capable of learning?
>>730790791Knowing the show they probably would’ve turned him into a pussywhipped faggot who is safe savage (we have slaves but no women slaves because that’s heckin’ misogynist and misogynists are worse than profligates)
>>730790904The Atom Cats were cool. But they're not a functioning/joinable faction unfortunately.The rest is all shit, yes.
>>730790848This Legionary gets it. Hail Caesar!
>>730790657Nobody was saying the bethesda games were respectful of the lore.
>>730790824I think you misunderstood the anon you were replying to initially then, I believe he was saying "Fallout (the IP, to Bethesda) has never been more than a grabbag of recognizable things", not that Fallout itself is just that
>>730790328That's it's purpose. It seems todd hates NV so bad because it was written well enough. He wants it destroyed so he can write the most dogshit canon on top of it
>>730791002This anon knows what's up.
>>730788574>Writers who barely know shit about the IP and/or think that games are stupid and think they can do betterNot just video games, but comics too. Remember that Watchmen show that threw out major themes from the comic in order to turn Dr Manhattan black and make it about how niggers are oppressed.It's clear race baiting shit is the real show they wanted to make and then were given the reigns to some comic they never gave a fuck about. Vidya and comics are seen as some of the lowest forms of writing by the "real writers" in Hollywood.
>>730791002It's not just NV though.The TV show, which Todd has been clear about will be considered canon and lay the foundation for future games, seems to be wiping the slate clean on everyone, not just NV specific stuff. it's like they got fed up with having so much prior lore/world to deal with and they want to do the closest thing they can to a reboot.
>>730790850>these two pieces of media are 195 years apart>still wears the exact same outfit
>>730790990No, that's definitely you and the other guy.>Bethesda has shown they don't care about the lore as far back as 2016, where they made up all kinds of bullshit and retconned power armor development.>They also fucked up in 76, says someone>Some guy says they fucked up in fo3 as well, although nobody really cares about the east coast>Finally, some anon comes in and tries to say Fallout was always memberberries, despite the conversation not being about that.
>>730791086I mean, they could have just made fallout 5 set in a diffrent universe. Just flat out say they wanted to start over so it has nothing to do with the original timeline. Idk why people dont do that instead of ruining a lifetime worth of lore.
>>730789419There are people who say ESO has better lore than the base games, just because they include a couple of references to some Kirkbride stuff and 1 (one!) good dialogue scene with Sotha Sil. Meanwhile it has this shit and all the stories are just rehashes or generic evil daedra plots.
>>730791086The East Coast seems more or less fine. The Commonwealth BoS is powerful enough that it can just casually cross the entire country, and the combined west coast BoS chapters are collectively ll in fear of and answer to the Commonwealth BoS
writers of this show know more about Fallout lore than the majority of people I see posting about it. Hell they actually knew that Deathclaw's were a pre-war thing and I saw so many complaints about that.
>>730791212There's nothing to understand. They hate the old lore and they hate you for liking it.
>>730791212harder to do cute call backs that way.
>>730788814Just imagine how bad Super Mutants would look in the show. Ever seen the old Hulk movie?
>>730788814>FEVThey're coming
>>730791086Killing off House seems particularly short-sighted since he practically has ghoul type immortality so they could just have him randomly show up in any potential time skips.I haven't seen the show but it seems the Ghoul character is popular and his inclusion in Fallout 76 seems like they realize they can just randomly shove him into any setting or time and he won't seem too out of place.
>>730789164>>The Courier fucked off and no one knows what happened with himthis is good, fits how I usually roleplay and is probably what they'll go with since it's the safest option
>>730791306>>730791318I fucking hate Todd and Nu-Thesda
>>730791292And yet they fumble the basics, like the location of Shady Sands.It's the shit like this that makes me annoyed. And that's also how Bethesda rolls. They parade around some deep-dive lore trivia as a proof they know their lore, while fumbling the very basics of that lore.
>>730791383He's going to be the supermutant talking in the trailer.
>>730789164>>730791413>tv takes place in the 'Courier took the payday and went on vacation' timeline
The show is good, if you have less than average IQ.Just turn off your brain.>but muh loreWho cares about your 3 decade old ""lore"", things change.
>>730791489Didn't someone make a mod that lets you fuck a deathclaw?
I wonder how far Todd is willing to put Fallout 5 ahead of 4 and the show so he can include all his epic referencesHe probably wants to do an even 2300
>>730791557>the year 2300>BoS and the Enclave are fighting a war against synths and aliensJust let it die ffs.
>>730791536Shitloads of someones.
>>730787931AQUA GOT NORTEDyou sound just as retarded
>>730791623Oh, based. I got to cruise LL and see what's available. I see skyrim has a full pregnancy mod, I hope Fallout deathclaw fucking is compatible
>>730791617Thats only 13 years after 4 so more than enough time for the Enclave to be a thing again
Only saw one clip and it's of a guy on the floor repeating "PATROLLING THE MOJAVE ALMOST MAKES YOU WISH FOR A NUCLEAR WINTER" over and over. Is this kino?
>>730789164Courier had to have done something since the securitrons are upgraded.
>>730791684Bro are you responding from 2013?
>>730790463Why is NV the worst selling modern Fallout game then?The facts in evidence do not support your conclusion.
>>730791759I wish, man... I wish..
Remember Season 1's finale post credits and how people said>UHH THATS JUST POST CREDITS, ITS NOT CANON AND THE STRIP IS INTACT AND THRIVINGWhy are people still pretending like these don't matter or foreshadow future reveals.
>>730791451It's not just getting the lore wrong. Like the lead writer for the games was getting called out on something that didn't make sense within the setting's established rules and his response was something like "this is a game about super-mutants shooting off lasers lol it doesn't have to make sense." He is one of THOSE types of writers.Even fantasy universes need established rules you can't just have Frodo pull out Google maps on his iphone to get directions on where to go. It needs to make sense in the world you established even if it has wizards and talking trees and whatnot.
>>730787931Why would you watch these show after the first season, or after watching any other 0 effort garbage prime show? You can put those 8h of duration of a season into just about anything else on this planet and it's going to be a better choice
>>730787931Hey never cared about the Fallout show in general but I have a question about these threads: how much of it is hatewatching and how much is genuine interest?
>>730791941>lead writeractually the vice president thought he knew better than the fans
>>730791940Because if the credits scene ended up not being totally accurate. It showed scenes of a literal battle taking place, with NCR and Legion remains, besides destroyed securitrons and dead deathclaws. As season 2 has shown, none of that happened and it was, at best, a conflict just between securitrons and deathclaws.So the credits scenes are worth considering but taking them as 100% accurate has already been proven wrong.
>>730791986the interest on /tv/ and /v/?90% hate watching 10% weirdos who want to fuck that bugeyed woman
>>730791941It wasn't the lead writer, it was a marketing manager, Pete Hines. But the point stands.The lead writer is MUCH dumber than this. Remember the time he showed the US soldier in the FO1 intro executing q civilian and declared "hey, this is the protagonist of FO4"? It took him a while to realize that this automatically makes Nate a war criminal. That's our Emil.
>>730791941That wasn't the lead writer, that their PR and communications head.
>>730792050They changed their minds for season 2, they likely intended that to be what has happened.
>>730788315Video game version reminded me a lot of Walt Disney for some reason.
>>730792082Emil is a odd one because it's incredibly clear that he knows instinctively the sauce to make a addictive, in the most literal sense, game but he's fucking TERRIBLE at writing.
>>730789164>Actually, there was no Courier and that's why everything is fuckedConsidering they nuked Shady Sands before NV would have taken place I’ll go with this.
>>730792126He was. A Howard Huges/Walt Disney amalgamation.
>>730791986From the reactions I've seen not just on 4chan but on some other sites and social media, some people (the lore-conscious fans) are actually hatewatching this shit. Not the "haha look at this garbage, how could they do X that sucks" funny hatewatching, but the seething, literal kind of hatewatching. Like the kind I saw when Star Wars The Last Jedi came out.
>>730792149He's a "high idea" guy, similarly to George Lucas, only less talented.But the cool idea itself isn't enough if you can't make it plausible within the setting, unless you want people to keep asking you "what do they eat".
>>730791986I don’t watch this shit, I just wait for an episode to come out and the read comments and replies to get details. And this trash is so shallow that I can basically argue and talk about it and no one would ever know that I didn’t watch it. That and the people that defend it are dumber than a bag of rocks.
>>730792126House seems to be based at least partially off Howard Hughes, a famous eccentric rich guy that started his own airplane company. This is pretty blatant with stuff like pic-related where they clearly copied a famous Howard Hughes pic. Middle name was also Robard similar to "Robert" House.Guy had legit OCD and started going crazy near the end. Part of the problem is as a rich guy used to telling people what to do and micromanaging he never really had to get told "no" leading to no pushback on his OCD eccentricities. They made a whole movie about it starring Leonardo DiCaprio called The Aviator if you've never seen it.
>>730791986I'm no longer hatewatching. I'm watching it as comedy because this show is Fallout parody
