who

>>730787967
no idea *who* yet, just that the end credits sequence shows his pod in the Lucky 38 with like a long-dead arm hanging out

>>730787931
erm... house faked his death to avoid prison so he could spend time with wilson during his final days

>>730787967
The show writers. It's not a big surprise, considering they've been killing off every faction and character in FNV on a per-episode basis.

>>730787931
Are we going to complain about HALO, Devil May Cry, Borderlands and other shitty video game cash grab tv shows? It's just usual woke Hollywood trash, you can avoid trauma by simply not watching

>>730787931
After the first season, I won't even acknowledge this shows existence. It wasn't just shit by fallout standards, it was shit by every film standard as well.

>>730788013
We know his pod didn't have windows and was at the top of the Lucky 38, which is much taller than the Gomorrah across the street. That's not House. You've been tricked.

the first season was so bad..
why would anyone watch this?

>>730788112
My guy, if you think the showrunners give half a hunk of shit about that kind of detail accuracy, I got bad news for you.

>>730787931
todd desperately wanting the show to tie into the canon for some reason is embarrassing

In an ideal world this show would be as ridiculed as the Halo show, but the Fallout fanbase got replaced long ago

>>730788049
The difference is that Bethesda very loudly stated that everything in the show was canon, and that all further games in the series would be a part of that canon. The example you mentioned were all safely siloed off into their own little continuities unrelated to the games.

>>730788186
Nobody who watches the show still has played the games. It's mostly just newcomers who saw the first season and wanted to continue watching. Apparently they're turning on the show for their own reasons, though. Bad writing and such.

>>730788201
they’re just wiping the slate completely clean to set up for a larger franchising cinematic universe imo. they don’t give two shits about the games

>>730787931
It's worse... I get the suspicion that the "House" we know from the game, and the one you see there dead in the pod, is actually the body double. I say because there's still a clip out there from later in the season, where ghoul Coop is in the 38 penthouse, and big green screen Mr. House face is visible in the background. That hasn't happened yet, so real-House is presumably still alive.

So the "House" you meet in the game and who was in the pod beneath the 38, visible in the credits now dead, assumedly was the body double. Meanwhile the real House either had some contingency plan beyond even the pod, or possibly just wholesale uploaded/duplicated his consciousness into a computer? He mentioned as much in the episode

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>>730787931
Is that surprising? They already rewrote him as a completely ridiculous, mustache-twirling cartoon villain because modern writing is allergic to nuance.

>>730788112
House's life support chamber and pod weren't at the top of the tower, it was far below.

>>730788223
If you play any Bethesda product after Fallout 76 or Starfield, then you are already terminally ill. Who cares? They could hire Sweet Baby Inc to make every aspect of the game and it would be equally shit or boring. Bethesda's last good games were Fallout 2 and Skyrim, now you just praise a dead shell like Blizzard or Naughty Dog

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>Ghouls are basically Deadpool now
Did i miss something? I thought that Ghouls were just regular people with fucked up skin and radiation resistance at best

>>730788340
Wrong. The room is at the top. You go through the door to the room behind it. Not through the elevator to the basement. The layout of the upper floor clearly accommodates the room.

>>730787931
okie dokie

Why is every vidya show always so fucking bad?

>>730788421
Ghouls are a very resilient and have a massive lifespan so I guess it's not crazy to give them other cockroach-like qualities

>sets look like some cheap theme park bullshit
>power armor is weak as piss against anything
>ghoul can take down power armor with ease

there are also plenty of nonsensical plotholes
i watched 3-4 eps of the first season and dropped it

>>730788421
Been like that since the first episode of the first season. Ghouls are treated as zombies who can tank any bullets that aren't headshots.

>>730788486
writers are like 90% women. I use that term very loosely

>>730788494
Might as well, Bethesda basically said that Ghouls can live for centuries without food (unless the plot demands it)

>>730788456
>Not through the elevator to the basement.

They are both elevators that go down. The upper floor layout literally doesn't accommodate it

>>730788456
The design of the life support chamber is identical to the area/rooms of the basement.

>>730788486
Writers who barely know shit about the IP and/or think that games are stupid and think they can do better

fuck are you on about, *I* killed House

LEGION BROS WE WON

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So is the NCR gone or not? The home alone fag worded it like they're still actively fighting each other, but the show showed us that there are like 5 or 6 proper soldiers and countless other exNCR doing their own thing while the legion is more or less the same

>>730788315
But like... why? For what reason? If you go by the Bethesda idea of

>Civilization returning to the wastes? NO! BAD!! DESTROY IT!!! NCR? NUKE! LEGION? CIVIL WAR COLLAPSE!

you can sort of follow the logic for other factions. But House is limited to Vegas, and specifically the Lucky 38. They didn't just dust Vegas off the map and out of existence, so why not leave him alive as a character to use whenever there's a story benefit to do so, at any point ahead or behind in the setting/timeline? It's not like they can't come up with any reason why civilization never advances beyond Vegas itself, when they already crippled it with a deathclaw infestation.

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>>730788593
<mfw when the legion

>>730788508
boy am i glad i havent wasted a single second watching this trash, that clip of michael emerson slowly trotting away from a shooting turret convinced me it wasnt gonna be worth watching

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>>730787931
>mfw Fisto of all things, made an appearance

Shitty show or not, credit where it's due, you got a good laugh out of me, showrunners.

>>730788667
The NCR will come back, the black BoS guy is from Shady Sands, hates the BoS now, and was shown wearing power armor with a Ranger helmet in the trailers, he also has the macguffin

>>730788570
It's clearly right behind the door. Looking like a backroom is explainable by the fact that it is literally a backroom.

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i havin't seen any nightkins/super mutant in the tv show, you think there just not gonna use them, or save them for the next season that takes place in DC? i don't believe i even seen any of the natives monsters from new vegas in season 2.

>>730788773
I could see the humor if the show wasn’t already grossly oversexualized

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>>730788667
Basically what's happened is the NCR central government was nuked, but the NCR was large enough and culturally strong enough that isolated parts of it carried on as normal.

>>730788667
Effectively the NCR exists as some shattered isolated groups, like Moldy's bunch at the observatory in season 1 finale. There has been rumor leaks that the NCR has been biding their time and return in full-force at the end of the season, but without that having happened yet, who's to say.

All that's confirmed is the first part, that as of yet, the NCR technically exists but as fractionalized small holdouts across it's old territory expanse.

>>730788494
>Ghouls are a very resilient
Only to radiation and aging, not to bullets or lasers or knives.

>>730788773
Le memberberries.

>>730788852
They said there's no one left in the NCR like 5 times. Everyones dead.

>>730788872
>There has been rumor leaks that the NCR has been biding their time and return in full-force at the end of the season
Read >>730788781

>>730788807
The secret door? That's literally not possible considering the door is an elevator, and even if it was just a door, the room would then break space with the main elevator

>>730788884
They can heal quickly while being irradiated, too. Seems like they forgot that the healing thing doesn't work outside of radiation zones, and that radiation speeds up feralization.

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>>730788382
>Beth
>Fallout 2

>>730788915
I feel like 1 town being destroyed, even though it was the captial, shouldn't be enough to break up a whole nation. The NCR had all of california and some of mexico.

Bugeye cunt and crew will never face actual adversity huh

>>730788593
No, you haven't.
Holy fuck, you haven't.

>The NCR is gone*****
>The legion is there i guess
>House might not even be the guy we saw in NV
>The Brotherhood are retarded Space Marine dudebros
>Oh yeah the Enclave is still there
It's almost like they're saying fuck you to everyone they can

>>730788925
No, you remember wrong. Go to the room with House's pod in it. It's clearly on the top floor, behind a door. No elevator.

>>730788982
Yes, that's what everybody keeps saying, but a) the showrunner is a lorelet who legit thinks NCR is just Shady Sands and b) Todd Howard doesn't give a fuck.
So all the NCR with its infrastructure has magically ceased to exist.

>>730788995
how fucking dare you say that about oppressed minorities

>>730789004
Meanwhile all the SBI characters are treated like Rey Skywalker tier gods and will eventually replace vault boy as the face of Fallout

>>730789015
>No, you remember wrong.
>No elevator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFet6u2BVE

stick it in your fucking ass.

>>730788982
you think the woman who's directing the show knows any form of nuance or argument? in women's minds, when the base of an army blows up it means everyone is dead.

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Despite Walton Goggins and Kyle MacLachlan, you still can't make me watch this piece of shit.

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>>730788050
the mobile game got women curious about the lore so a braindead story got thrown together where a cute white woman gets fucked by niggers and gets the ick from the legion

>>730789015
Dude go back and check out the room his pod is in, it's an utterly massive open support space. There's no way it could possibly be up the tower

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>>730788781
>kill off NCR
>only to bring them back and make them the "protagonist" faction
Jesus Christ, dead might have been better

>>730788889
the show is very ripe with those, in a way like
>nuh-uh, you can't say we don't understand the source material and are progressively raping established lore and tone of the series as the result, look at all those references we put from the games that we totally didn't get by searching "fallout nv meme reddit" on goggle

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>>730788679
Because they're not trying to make a show about FNV, they're making a show about their own characters in a vaguely Fallout-inspired setting. This is one of the main reasons movie/TV adaptations of games and (often) books are so shit: the writers are there to show off their writing. They want to make their own thing. They don't want to do an adaptation of an existing story, they just want to write whatever they feel like, unconstrained by the original work which 99% of the time, they don't give a shit about.
Even sequels to old series are this way, it feels like modern Star Wars and Star Trek only exist to pad resumes and utterly shit on the original works for which the writers seem to show genuine contempt. None of the stuff you're talking about matters, the writers don't know what that stuff is, and they'd just think it's faggot nerd shit if you told them. Even retards on /v/ will keep sucking off Goggins after he said he has zero interest in Fallout as a game and doesn't give a shit what ghouls are in that universe. He, like everybody else involved, is just there for a paycheck and another note on their resume.

Ok place your bets people, how will they fuck up the Courier
>Actually, there was no Courier and that's why everything is fucked
>The Courier fucked off and no one knows what happened with him
>The Courier died (bonus points if it's a pthetic death)
>The Courier ended up as a junkie

>>730788421
Fully equipped power armor brotherhood soldiers can also get one shot by a ghoul with revolver, this show is a giant shitpost and make no sense

>>730789080
I was just pretending not to know in order to test your FNV knowledge. Congrats, you passed.

>>730789124
They were always "the protagonist" faction, since Fallout 1.

>>730787931
I don't consider any of the credits scene to be canon. They always look like a bunch of random assets thrown together.

>>730789080
pardon my tism but the light coming in from the slats would imply that this room is above ground, right? the securitron demo area is underground

>>730789128
>Because they're not trying to make a show about FNV, they're making a show about their own characters in a vaguely Fallout-inspired setting.

I get that, I get that. What I'm asking is, why would Bethesda let them do it? Why not a case of "Oh you want to rape and pillage and obliterate the entire setting, for your own shitty-writer reasons? Well go right ahead! Feel free to do anything but kill Mr. House!"

Doing so just eliminates a potential future resources for the setting/games, if ever Bethesda wanted/needed to roll out House again for some use or benefit.

>>730788814
This episode put a spotlight on FEV so maybe they're saving them for a big moment like the deathclaws since they would need to be entirely CGI as well, I think one showed up in a background wanted poster though.

>>730789164
Third option
Fallout NV is like the Halo 3 ODST of the franchise and Rookie died a pathetic, anticlimactic death in some obscure comic. One of the most disrespectful ways to go, both in lore and IRL.

He’s transferred his consciousness to the mainframe. The main problem is the Enclave nuking the world and returning again.

You know how people theorized that the Halo show was originally a Mass Effect show script that got repurposed? I wonder if this show was originally something Borderlands

>>730789232
I believe those are supposed to just be artificial lighting. The demo area is definitely underground, and the control room with the life-pod is also underground, either above or below the demo area.

>>730789164
i fully expect to find him hanging on a cross, recognizable only by his/hers pip boy and a mojave express bag with a large 6 on it

>>730789283
just subtle enough to be true

>>730789274
>I wonder if this show was originally something Borderlands

I've seen like 3 different critics independently come to the same conclusion, weirdly

>>730789184
I should have clarified a *Bethesda* protagonist faction.One with all their edges sanded off. I like them because they're a "good" faction with obvious faction, not the horseshit they'll likely turn them into. If they do go that route they'd basically be Fallout 3 Brotherhood or the Minutemen.

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>>730789164
BOS Grand Canyon Elder is the Courier

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>>730789183

You better fucking believe I'd pass, fag

>>730789303
It isn't that much of a stretch really
>Wacky comedic shenanigans in a scifi postapocaliptic setting

>>730789242
Because Bethesda doesn't care about Fallouts that are not their own.
Also, in the lore 60% of America is an unknown, the showrunners could've picked any place in the US to make their own shit. But they picked California/Nevada, two places with the biggest amount of lore attached to them. And now they are surprised the fandom is angry they are fumbling this lore.
They brought this on themselves.

>>730789350
>Because Bethesda doesn't care about Fallouts that are not their own.

They care about money though, more than anything. That's why, as much as they hate it, they always keep dragging out the NCR ranger veteran armor to advertise and sell in all related media.

The same with House, they could've just kept wheeling him out and people would go "I MEMBER!" and throw money.

>>730789128
>the writers are there to show off their writing.
This has been a problem in every type of media since 2010

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>>730789242
>why would Bethesda let them do it?
Dude I wish I had your optimism about Bethesda's care for their IPs. Have you played Fallout 4? Are you familiar with ESO lore? Bethesda does not give a fuck, Todd's #1 priority since Morrowind has been "a larger audience". Every single game has been more dumbed-down than the last because they want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It does not get much lower than a female-protagonist amazon TV show. Todd already said the show is the new canon going forward, he could not care less what old fans think because they're a tiny % of the total people buying his dogshit.

>>730789164
>>The Courier fucked off and no one knows what happened with him

I'm going with some variation of this. At best I expect just an offhand single-sentence mention of "a courier" by some major character, but they may actually not even mention it at all.

>>730789404
Normally i don't like youtube rant videos, but i remeber watching a video that said modern Fallout is just a merch brand now, and i couldn't agree more

>>730787931
You mean courier did, right?

>>730787931
René Auberjonois died years ago.

>>730789404
Why should they bother if they can just keep slapping Fallout 4 power armor everywhere? Now they have the bug girl and the ghoul they can monetize.
Why should they sully their hands with that icky Black Isle imagery?

>>730787931
How many players killed House?

>>730789184
>>730789316
*they're a "good" faction with obvious flaws

>>730789474
>Now they have the bug girl and the ghoul they can monetize.
When typing this were you aware that they added them to CoD?

>>730789419
>Are you familiar with ESO lore?
The fact that Apocrypha is littered with elder scrolls will never not piss me off. If Hermaeus got his claws/tentacles on an elder scroll he’d dissect that shit yesterday and learn how to reshape reality with him as its eternal master. Fuck nu-thesda and fuck whatever “”””””canon”””””” is established in their live-service goyslop.

>>730789496
>he didnt kill all of the faction leaders, before getting the yes man ending

>>730789474
>Why should they sully their hands with that icky Black Isle imagery?

Because they are incapable of recapturing the lighting in a bottle, of the NCR ranger armor design. For whatever reason, the outfit resonated with fans, and as much as Bethesda might hate it, they know it's a money-maker so they *keep* dragging out the ranger armor to advertise and monetize.

I know Bethesda would rather that none of it existed and everyone who liked it burned in hell, but as said, as much as they may hate it, they love money more.

There are things I dont like, such as NCR beeing toast and whatnot. But the show is pretty good. This episode a lot of thing came together and the mystery starts to unfold more. As a fanboy I enjoyed it.

Come home white man
https://youtu.be/Z0wL6DXIvoc?si=eTLa7Xa3WXaA-NtT

>>730789547
>ranger armor
Irrelevant. Its t50, the face of the series.

>>730789536
The only thing that pisses me off about ESO is that the faggots running UESP - which used to be good - include lore from it. I go to look up some random bit of trivia and have to scan the sources every time to make sure it's from a real video game and not zenimax fanfiction. Tamriel Rebuilt is more deserving of canonicity than ESO.

>>730789164
>the courier is a synth and destroyed all the factions on behalf of the institute

>watching hollykike tv desecration of actual art (video games)
jesus fucking christ
do anything else

>>730789603
Wrong. Its t60

>>730789547
>Because they are incapable of recapturing the lighting in a bottle, of the NCR ranger armor design
And the OG Enclave APA. Nobody cares about that idiotic Enclave PA in FO3, but everybody loves the APA from FO2 and NV, to the point Bethesda begrudingly brought that design into FO4 for no reason.
But still, Bethesda would rather prefer their own imagery was popular, rather than the one made by Black Isle.

>>730789636
God, what a lorebreak that was in FO4. It shows that Bethesda hasn't cared about the lore since 2016.

>>730789419
TES fans seems to like at least some of the lore addidtion in ESO

>>730789748
Worse in 76, there's like 5 other new power armor sets, and particularly one developed by the BoS literally right after the nuclear apocalypse

I just realized I'm racist to supermutants because they look dumb and brutish. I would've joined the unity if muties were hot.

>>730789614
The worst part (in any media, not just Bethesda slop) is that the new, low quality, blatantly globohomo shit is pushed really hard to be the true official canon. It’s almost as if there’s a conspiracy to use beloved media to turn fans into useful gentile pawns.

>>730789748
Bethesda never cared about the Fallout lore to begin with. Even in FO3 it's very clear Emil has only skimmed the Fallout wiki a bit and that was the extent of his research.

>>730787931
The real takeaway is, House directly attributes deathclaws to the Enclave, and says he's in opposition to them. So if the Strip is overrun by deathclaws, is that possibly an action by the Enclave post-war to fuck over House? Either literally controlling them, or just letting them loose in the direction of Vegas?

There's mention of them coming from Quarry Junction, but who's to say they weren't agitated or outright directed towards the Strip.

>>730789840

Fallout has never been anything but a grab bag of recognizable things they can smear all over a given product to sell to idiots who will gleefully go "I know that thing! I saw it and I claaaaapped!!" Anyone who is surprised by how hard they're buttfucking the IP with this show hasn't been paying attention.

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>>730787931
good
next they need to canonize the courier as a straight white male, kill him off in the most pathetic way, and also make sure his corpse was raped and full of semen

>>730790034
revisionist bullshit like this is always pathetic when you were actually there for it.

>>730788201
Its well known that Todd hates New Vegas overshadowing 3 and 4. He wants to destroy its legacy and build his own shit game on top of the ashes.

>>730789614
TR modders openly state they have no interest in following established lore and are going with their own headcanon.
You can't blame them. They don't have the manhours to spare to update the game reactively.

You are correct about ESO though. Neither one deserves to be considered canon.

>>730790173
Very probably, they said F5 is to take place on the west coast. If not literally upon the ruins of NV (rumors are the setting is to be San Francisco), then watch NV get a DLC where it's rape and ruin can be focused on

I don't really get what is the purpose of this series besides shitting on New Vegas for some reason.

so did I

don't care

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>>730790328
That is it's entire purpose. S1 was a gamble that paid off. They clearly didn't plan for it so didn't know what to do, and so Todd stepped up and was like

>"Just fuck New Vegas's shit up."

>>730790126

What the fuck are you talking about? Its been incredibly obvious they don't give the slightest shit about Fallout as an IP, and only care about whatever recognizable aspect of it they can merchandise, since Fallout 3.

>>730790328
Bethesda hates New Vegas because Fallout fans lauded it as far better than Fallout 3 and Fallout 4.

Fallout 76 came out and obliterated Bethesda's reputation, and Starfield made that even worse. The show is confirmed to be part of Bethesda's new canon for the games, so their next Fallout game will assumedly follow on from the events of the show.

You can already meet one of the characters (the ghoul) from the show in Fallout 76. They are setting up their own canon to make sure nobody is hoping for anything in New Vegas to be relevant.

>>730790418
>It is impossible for him to have been there for 1, 2, Tactics, or BoS
The Redditor apologist mind

>>730790418
NTA but you are being retarded. They absolutely do care about "the IP", just their own vision of it. They dislike the "post-post apocalypse" stuff where new societies grow, and instead like the Fallout 3 style of things where it's as though the bombs dropped 50 years ago and everyone still lives in a shitty shanty town.

They absolutely do have a vision for it, it's just a shitty one.

>>730788382
>the common slogan from shills being "who cares"
I hope you jeets understand that you out yourselves each time you do that.

>>730790126
Literally all Fallout 3 is is memberberries of the first two games with a retarded find dad plot thrown on top of it.
>member radscorpions (even though the east coast doesn't have scorpions)
>member deathclaws (even though the east coast doesn't have Jackson's Chameleons)
>member the BoS (no, not the ones from Fallout 1, the ones from Texas or something)
>member the Enclave
>member super mutants and centaurs (even though the master made super mutants and centaurs at Mariposa)
>member how you needed to get water in Fallout 1 main quest
>member how you needed to find a GECK in Fallout 2 main quest
The only thing Fallout related that had any right being in an East coast Washington setting was Vault-Tec, some Vaults and probably some Enclave holdouts or an outpost or something, but not an entire Enclave army that shouldn't exist after being genocided in Fallout 2. Fallout 3 is literally just a series of marketing bullet points. Credit where it's due at least 4 has some original factions.

>>730789350
>fandom is angry
Outside /polv/ no one is angry and its the best received video game adaption ever. Fuck off

Not canonizing an end for New Vegas so as not to disrespect player choices but making them irrrelevant and meaningless by making everything go to shit is certainly an interesting approach. If they were going to re-post-apocalyze everything, why not canonize one of the actual endings or hinted developments from NV such as the Courier siding with Elijah and swarming Vegas with the Cloud, the Courier nuking the NCR and Legion and Tunnelers swarming Vegas, or the Courier just being apeshit and destroying everything, or just canonizing the cut ending where the Courier just fucks off?

>>730787931
Im happy Caesar was dead before we seen him in the show. Thank fucking God they dont have the chance to ruin him.
Legion chads, we keep winning!

>>730790657
>Fallout 3 doesn't care about the lore
Well, yes, you've proven my point.

>>730790592
No, don’t let them understand. They’ll adapt.

>>730790791
The Legion is so fucking based that Caesar foresaw the utter dogshit of the show and took it upon his shoulders to sacrifice himself, so as to not be ruined by the show, and thus preserve the Legion. Even in death, he still wins, and the Legion endures.

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>>730790463
>You can already meet one of the characters (the ghoul) from the show in Fallout 76

>>730790657
>at least 4 has some original factions.
and all of them are shit and retarded lol

>>730790845
You think jeets are capable of learning?

>>730790791
Knowing the show they probably would’ve turned him into a pussywhipped faggot who is safe savage (we have slaves but no women slaves because that’s heckin’ misogynist and misogynists are worse than profligates)

>>730790904
The Atom Cats were cool. But they're not a functioning/joinable faction unfortunately.

The rest is all shit, yes.

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>>730790848
This Legionary gets it. Hail Caesar!

>>730790657
Nobody was saying the bethesda games were respectful of the lore.

>>730790824
I think you misunderstood the anon you were replying to initially then, I believe he was saying "Fallout (the IP, to Bethesda) has never been more than a grabbag of recognizable things", not that Fallout itself is just that

>>730790328
That's it's purpose. It seems todd hates NV so bad because it was written well enough. He wants it destroyed so he can write the most dogshit canon on top of it

>>730791002
This anon knows what's up.

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>>730788574
>Writers who barely know shit about the IP and/or think that games are stupid and think they can do better
Not just video games, but comics too. Remember that Watchmen show that threw out major themes from the comic in order to turn Dr Manhattan black and make it about how niggers are oppressed.

It's clear race baiting shit is the real show they wanted to make and then were given the reigns to some comic they never gave a fuck about. Vidya and comics are seen as some of the lowest forms of writing by the "real writers" in Hollywood.

>>730791002
It's not just NV though.
The TV show, which Todd has been clear about will be considered canon and lay the foundation for future games, seems to be wiping the slate clean on everyone, not just NV specific stuff.
it's like they got fed up with having so much prior lore/world to deal with and they want to do the closest thing they can to a reboot.

>>730790850
>these two pieces of media are 195 years apart
>still wears the exact same outfit

>>730790990
No, that's definitely you and the other guy.

>Bethesda has shown they don't care about the lore as far back as 2016, where they made up all kinds of bullshit and retconned power armor development.
>They also fucked up in 76, says someone
>Some guy says they fucked up in fo3 as well, although nobody really cares about the east coast
>Finally, some anon comes in and tries to say Fallout was always memberberries, despite the conversation not being about that.

>>730791086
I mean, they could have just made fallout 5 set in a diffrent universe. Just flat out say they wanted to start over so it has nothing to do with the original timeline. Idk why people dont do that instead of ruining a lifetime worth of lore.

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>>730789419
There are people who say ESO has better lore than the base games, just because they include a couple of references to some Kirkbride stuff and 1 (one!) good dialogue scene with Sotha Sil. Meanwhile it has this shit and all the stories are just rehashes or generic evil daedra plots.

>>730791086
The East Coast seems more or less fine. The Commonwealth BoS is powerful enough that it can just casually cross the entire country, and the combined west coast BoS chapters are collectively ll in fear of and answer to the Commonwealth BoS

writers of this show know more about Fallout lore than the majority of people I see posting about it. Hell they actually knew that Deathclaw's were a pre-war thing and I saw so many complaints about that.

>>730791212
There's nothing to understand. They hate the old lore and they hate you for liking it.

>>730791212
harder to do cute call backs that way.

>>730788814
Just imagine how bad Super Mutants would look in the show. Ever seen the old Hulk movie?

>>730788814
>FEV
They're coming

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>>730791086
Killing off House seems particularly short-sighted since he practically has ghoul type immortality so they could just have him randomly show up in any potential time skips.

I haven't seen the show but it seems the Ghoul character is popular and his inclusion in Fallout 76 seems like they realize they can just randomly shove him into any setting or time and he won't seem too out of place.

>>730789164
>>The Courier fucked off and no one knows what happened with him
this is good, fits how I usually roleplay and is probably what they'll go with since it's the safest option

>>730791306
>>730791318
I fucking hate Todd and Nu-Thesda

>>730791292
And yet they fumble the basics, like the location of Shady Sands.
It's the shit like this that makes me annoyed. And that's also how Bethesda rolls. They parade around some deep-dive lore trivia as a proof they know their lore, while fumbling the very basics of that lore.

>>730791383
He's going to be the supermutant talking in the trailer.

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>>730789164
>>730791413
>tv takes place in the 'Courier took the payday and went on vacation' timeline

The show is good, if you have less than average IQ.
Just turn off your brain.
>but muh lore
Who cares about your 3 decade old ""lore"", things change.

>>730791489
Didn't someone make a mod that lets you fuck a deathclaw?

I wonder how far Todd is willing to put Fallout 5 ahead of 4 and the show so he can include all his epic references
He probably wants to do an even 2300

>>730791557
>the year 2300
>BoS and the Enclave are fighting a war against synths and aliens
Just let it die ffs.

>>730791536
Shitloads of someones.

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>>730787931
AQUA GOT NORTED

you sound just as retarded

>>730791623
Oh, based. I got to cruise LL and see what's available. I see skyrim has a full pregnancy mod, I hope Fallout deathclaw fucking is compatible

>>730791617
Thats only 13 years after 4 so more than enough time for the Enclave to be a thing again

Only saw one clip and it's of a guy on the floor repeating "PATROLLING THE MOJAVE ALMOST MAKES YOU WISH FOR A NUCLEAR WINTER" over and over. Is this kino?

>>730789164
Courier had to have done something since the securitrons are upgraded.

>>730791684
Bro are you responding from 2013?

>>730790463
Why is NV the worst selling modern Fallout game then?
The facts in evidence do not support your conclusion.

>>730791759
I wish, man... I wish..

Remember Season 1's finale post credits and how people said
>UHH THATS JUST POST CREDITS, ITS NOT CANON AND THE STRIP IS INTACT AND THRIVING
Why are people still pretending like these don't matter or foreshadow future reveals.

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>>730791451
It's not just getting the lore wrong. Like the lead writer for the games was getting called out on something that didn't make sense within the setting's established rules and his response was something like "this is a game about super-mutants shooting off lasers lol it doesn't have to make sense." He is one of THOSE types of writers.

Even fantasy universes need established rules you can't just have Frodo pull out Google maps on his iphone to get directions on where to go. It needs to make sense in the world you established even if it has wizards and talking trees and whatnot.

>>730787931
Why would you watch these show after the first season, or after watching any other 0 effort garbage prime show? You can put those 8h of duration of a season into just about anything else on this planet and it's going to be a better choice

>>730787931
Hey never cared about the Fallout show in general but I have a question about these threads: how much of it is hatewatching and how much is genuine interest?

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>>730791941
>lead writer
actually the vice president thought he knew better than the fans

>>730791940
Because if the credits scene ended up not being totally accurate. It showed scenes of a literal battle taking place, with NCR and Legion remains, besides destroyed securitrons and dead deathclaws. As season 2 has shown, none of that happened and it was, at best, a conflict just between securitrons and deathclaws.

So the credits scenes are worth considering but taking them as 100% accurate has already been proven wrong.

>>730791986
the interest on /tv/ and /v/?
90% hate watching 10% weirdos who want to fuck that bugeyed woman

>>730791941
It wasn't the lead writer, it was a marketing manager, Pete Hines. But the point stands.
The lead writer is MUCH dumber than this. Remember the time he showed the US soldier in the FO1 intro executing q civilian and declared "hey, this is the protagonist of FO4"? It took him a while to realize that this automatically makes Nate a war criminal. That's our Emil.

>>730791941
That wasn't the lead writer, that their PR and communications head.

>>730792050
They changed their minds for season 2, they likely intended that to be what has happened.

>>730788315
Video game version reminded me a lot of Walt Disney for some reason.

>>730792082
Emil is a odd one because it's incredibly clear that he knows instinctively the sauce to make a addictive, in the most literal sense, game but he's fucking TERRIBLE at writing.

>>730789164
>Actually, there was no Courier and that's why everything is fucked
Considering they nuked Shady Sands before NV would have taken place I’ll go with this.

>>730792126
He was. A Howard Huges/Walt Disney amalgamation.

>>730791986
From the reactions I've seen not just on 4chan but on some other sites and social media, some people (the lore-conscious fans) are actually hatewatching this shit. Not the "haha look at this garbage, how could they do X that sucks" funny hatewatching, but the seething, literal kind of hatewatching. Like the kind I saw when Star Wars The Last Jedi came out.

>>730792149
He's a "high idea" guy, similarly to George Lucas, only less talented.
But the cool idea itself isn't enough if you can't make it plausible within the setting, unless you want people to keep asking you "what do they eat".

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>>730791986
I don’t watch this shit, I just wait for an episode to come out and the read comments and replies to get details. And this trash is so shallow that I can basically argue and talk about it and no one would ever know that I didn’t watch it. That and the people that defend it are dumber than a bag of rocks.

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>>730792126
House seems to be based at least partially off Howard Hughes, a famous eccentric rich guy that started his own airplane company. This is pretty blatant with stuff like pic-related where they clearly copied a famous Howard Hughes pic. Middle name was also Robard similar to "Robert" House.

Guy had legit OCD and started going crazy near the end. Part of the problem is as a rich guy used to telling people what to do and micromanaging he never really had to get told "no" leading to no pushback on his OCD eccentricities. They made a whole movie about it starring Leonardo DiCaprio called The Aviator if you've never seen it.

>>730791986
I'm no longer hatewatching. I'm watching it as comedy because this show is Fallout parody

I wish they had the balls to actually kill the Ghoul and change the status quo

>>730792397
He's also Obsidian's answer to Andrew Ryan.
>an eccentric recluse multibillionare voiced by Quark
Vs
>an eccentric recluse multibillionare voiced by Odo

>>730792317
It’s more he just takes the first thing that comes to his mind and rolls with it. That tweet about the generic Fallout 4 protag being one of the dudes from the Fallout 1 opening scene gives you an idea how his thought process works. He will get an idea, run with it, and no one will stop him or will ignore criticism. My money is on the former since I once heard that Bethesda is big on toxic positivity shit. I mean most of the factions in 4 are just retarded. There is no reason to help anyone but the Minutemen unless you want to roleplay a retard, a tacticool larper, or a Saturday morning cartoon villain. And the reasons for the Railroad are just fucking stupid in the grand scheme of the story and the Institute’s are non-existent.

>>730787931
Good thing I stopped liking this series otherwise I'd think bethesda has a vendetta against west coast fallout.

>>730788112
Implying they pay attention to/remember/give a shit about details like that.

>>730792496
Killing the most important prewar person ever in the entire wasteland who is coincidentally called "Howard"?
Not happening.

>>730792641
Also, he comes off as someone having genuine ADHD, because he literally forgets and contradicts the plot points he himself established. Like Autumn magically coming back to life or Shaun kidnapping himself as a baby.

>>730791557
Nah we’re gonna be stuck in the late 2290s for all of eternity

>>730792496
they know he's single handedly carrying the show, the moment he dies the views go with him

>>730792808
Oh fuck
> Shaun kidnapping himself as a baby.
Oh Jesus oh no, they're going to TES/ESO fallout, aren't they? Anything can happen anywhere at anytime, even several contradictory things, because its all in someone's dreams

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>>730792859
>they know he's single handedly carrying the show, the moment he dies the views go with him
I think that's basically what happened when they killed off Joel / Pedro Pascal in the Last of Us show. But the show writers didn't have much choice in the matter since that's just what happens in the games. Even though people were clearly tuning in for him and not the down syndrome girl they got for Ellie.

>>730788223
>everything in the show was canon, and that all further games in the series would be a part of that canon
Damn bro, the show is going to be canon to Fallout 5 when it comes out in 20 years after Elder Scrolls 6 (which flops) and Starfield 2 (which also flops)? Say it ain't so

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almost 2 years since this amazing lore addition.

>>730793052
The fandom delivered.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/80607

>>730792397
>Part of the problem is as a rich guy used to telling people what to do and micromanaging he never really had to get told "no" leading to no pushback on his OCD eccentricities
That's not really how this works. There's no logic to OCD compulsions, it's a mental illness, people telling him no wouldn't have changed anything.

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>>730792767
This show has done so much to add credence to the “Bethesda hates the west coast” meme. I mean before it was shit that was easily debunked and now you have an entire show that has more or less been dedicated to ripping apart the west coast as a setting for seemingly no other reason than retconning shit out of existence. Like what is the point of this? There is no real reason that any of this shit has to take place out west. They could have chosen literally any other part of the country to set this dogshit and it wouldn’t affect the story whatsoever. And every character and thing that appears seems to just be there for the sake of memberries, to be unceremoniously destroyed/killed, or both. And Todd and Bethesda are so fucking eager to say “no guys this is totally canon, all of this is totally in line with our vision for the series and the direction we want it to go in the future”. It’s absurd.
>inb4 we’ll it couldn’t be the same since house and Vegas are major plot points
Could’ve just made some other character have the stupid mind control chips whatnot. No real reason it had to be House which is part of my point.

The wife being an evil enclave bitch is going to be the plot of season 3 isn't it?

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>>730793023
>Elder Scrolls 6 (which flops)
Elder Scrolls 6 is almost assuredly taking place in the region of Hammerfall full of that nigger race that LARPs as Middle-Eastern.

All the discourse surrounding it is gonna be a political sperging shitshow like with Assassin's Creed: George Floyd Samurai addition. Especially if Israel ends up acting out again during release or even worse we find ourselves in yet another war in the area.

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>>730792928
They can’t really do that unless they go all in on the retarded Cthulhu shit or make time travel so they can have a Fallout version of Dragon Breaks
>inb4 Fallout 2 had time travel
That shit was an Easter egg encounter and not an actual plot point.

>>730793052
As a canadian, I support this bit of fluff

>>730793178
The fucking black woman CEO from the 50’s LMAO just like real life huh?

>>730787931
the show is a hate letter to the new vegas fans
anyway Fallout nowadays is just a brand, nothing more

>>730793206
What even is your racism? The Redguards only share a look with african americans and maybe africans, and like you mentioned they don't have the nigger culture you despise. Do you merely hate skin color and bone structure? What are you even against?

>The house always wins
>but how do I know if i'm the house

It's amazing how much better the flashback and Norm shit is compared to OKIE DOKIE which is supposed to be the main fucking story

>>730793241
>retarded Cthulhu shit
That or the gay aliens or something equally as retarded. Fallout has literal radiation magic now, thanks to fallout 4. Mark my words, its going to be a Radiation Break.

>>730793152
Yes, but keep in mind that at this point people who care about the lore are in overwhelming majority. Thanks to the show, the majority of Fallout fanbase are the people who only know Fallout from the show and REALLY couldn't care less what happened in FO1, 2, NV and even to some extent FO3. And that's the audience Todd cares about.
Bethesda at this point couldn't care less about the old fandom crying about the lore breaks, because they now have the new audience.

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>>730793152
No idea why they were so eager to canonize the show and say "yes Fallout 5 will be based around the show's lore!", when it's such a big mess.
The worst part is that they are actively trying to fix the timeline, but they are instead making it worse.
Todd should have really just said
>Yes, they got it wrong. Shady Sands fell in 2296
No idea why they didn't own up to it.

>>730793241
>That shit was an Easter egg encounter and not an actual plot point.
So was the UFO and yet here we are.

>>730793352
>are in overwhelming majority
I meant minority.

>>730793325
This is shit is so scatterbrained and has so many plots going on. You have frog face loot for her father, ghoulgins being a cynical dick and flashbacking while looking for his daughter, tardimus doing brotherhood shit, the vault cunts and whatever nonsense they’re up to, and whatever side character bullshit is in between all of them. And the worst part is it all just feels like padding and filler.

>>730793052
Show is dumb enough already so it wouldn't hurt if they actually included this guy who show up to save 3 Vaults from Canadian Overseer

>>730793381
>No idea why they didn't own up to it.
Because Todd himself didn't know about this being a lore error until some journalist pointed it out.

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>>730793381 (me)
They even added this and now it's even more confusing.
Now it's 2291 that Shady Sands "fell".
Nothing in the timeline makes any sense right now, because they doubled down but then tried to correct it. But somehow made it worse.

>>730787931
???
He always dies the second I get to the Strip in New Vegas. tf you mean he's dead? Of course he is kek

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>>730789164
Nah dude it'll go like this
>courier was actually another pre-war guy all along
>he's the true villain of s2, the one lucy's dad works for
>he's pretending to be house because reasons

>>730793352
That’s a good thing honestly because these people are the most fair weather faggots possible and only do what the herd does, so if there is an overwhelming cry of shit they will run. And given how much shartfield was dumped on I think Bethesda’s spell on the normalfags is breaking. You can only ride on rep for so long while releasing dog shit over and over.

>>730789164
hand sticking out of a goodsprings grave

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>>730793140
>That's not really how this works. There's no logic to OCD compulsions, it's a mental illness, people telling him no wouldn't have changed anything.
OCD is considered one of the worst mental diseases in terms of quality of life and a large reason is because the person KNOWS what they're doing is irrational but still feels compelled to do it.

But the general treatment for OCD is to keep pushing the patient to exposure. So for example maybe you can't touch your bedroom doorknob. You keep doing exposure therapy to work up to it. Then maybe you can move on to something more difficult like touching the front door doorknob. Howard Hughes didn't have that much like that pushing him to do exposure therapy.

So essentially he was just feeding the OCD and making up more and more rules and rituals. As a rich dude he could afford to become a recluse that stopped going out and hire a staff obeying all of his eccentric OCD rules. A regular dude with OCD might still have to interact with the outside world and and do stuff that makes them uncomfortable like handling cash or having a cashier touch your items. Getting a regular normie job. Exposure. Similar to someone with a phobia slowly exposing themselves to something they're afraid of.

>>730791910
>muh sales
retard

>consuming reddit goyslop
you should be killed

>>730793295
Dude I'm not even trying to make a statement on race. Just saying the conversation surrounding it on this board is going to be fucking annoying due to political spergery even if it's not even that woke outside of just having a bunch of blacks in it.

God forbid if Debra Wilson also shows up somewhere in it.

The enclave being the super ultimate secret threat that not even House could predict feels impossible to take seriously.

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>>730793532 (me)
They forgot to change the script in S2 to reflect the retcons.
So it's even more confusing.
>Shady Sands fell more than 20 years ago!
In the show, that must mean it's at least 2311.
Which is fine, I guess. But that must mean Caesar died God knows how many decades ago and the Legion has just been fighting over his corpse.

>>730789242
>I get that, I get that. What I'm asking is, why would Bethesda let them do it? Why not a case of "Oh you want to rape and pillage and obliterate the entire setting, for your own shitty-writer reasons? Well go right ahead! Feel free to do anything but kill Mr. House!"
Bethesda couldn't do shit if they wanted too. They bought the TV rights from Microsoft, Bethesda is just there to supervise, which they directors/writers can completely ignore.

>>730793638
That would be disappointing, but at the same time kino that I could forgive it

>>730788495
Power armor isn't meant to be invincible, stop smelling Bethesda's farts.

>>730793648
And shooting up drugs also might have something to do with it..

>>730793532
This all just feels so petty and obnoxious. Why the fuck do they even want to make a game on the West coast? They have an entire other half of the country to make games in. And as long as they don’t write more retarded one and done stories they can reuse areas. Florida, Texas, Louisiana, New York, Illinois, Michigan, Georgia. So much shit there is no reason to set it out west unless someone has a hateboner over that part of the setting existing.

>>730787967
The doctor who cures people with mouse bites.

>>730788495
At least most of it is actually practical, real sets

It made me realize how much I hate seeing CGI everything, in most tv movies now

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>>730793810
Even with an armored real life vehicles like a Stryker the generally accepted rule is it will probably stop a single .50 cal round but if they shoot in the same place it's going through and killing you.

Not true how true that is but that's what they tell you if you're a Stryker driver and it's been repeated so much people just go with it as fact.

>>730793837
>why
It's actually quite simple.
Only the West Coast and East Coast have established lore.
Even though you could actually put the story anywhere in the US, they chose West Coast only because it's the most recognizable part of Fallout.
A similar location would be Texas, but then they would have to write factions and lore for Texas.

>>730788014
That was House M.D.
We're talking about Mr. House from Fallout.

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>>730790848
>The Legion is so fucking based
Jesus Christ, the state of the board.

>>730791292
>Deathclaw's were a pre-war thing
I suspect that's just the writers getting lucky. Everything else is abysmal lore-breaking dogshit.

>>730790712
Same could be said about Fallout 3
Die, cattle

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>>730794075
It would be more interesting if Bethesda just named some unexpected location like Japan. It'd capture the weebaoo audience but knowing Bethesda writing they'd probably fuck up and offend the whole country especially considering Japan ACTUALLY got nuked in real life.

>>730794290
Do England then

>>730792030
He's a marketing retard for the publisher company, so it was pretty dumb to voice lore complaints to him. Especially when that retard Emil is on twitter

>>730794290
They could really set it anywhere.
China, Japan, Europe
Nothing is really established there and they could have gone absolutely wild.

>>730794398
They obviously can't do China

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>>730793838
dam, rets in pes

>>730794381
yea I agree, but he shouldn't have doubled down and then dismissed the complaints.
that was a really dumb move.

>>730791057
Meh, still better than Snyder's slop.

>>730794205
They're objectively the best for the future of the wasteland

>>730794290
>Fallout :/
>Fallout Japan :O

>>730794290
>>730794398
Japan would be pretty interesting as people did see them as a rising future super power that could rival the US. Maybe that halfway happened in Fallout, not enough to rival the US or China. But still a strong technological power.

>>730794247
Don't be stupid. The point isn't that it was good, it's that acting like it's being panned everywhere just because /v/ is hates it is delusional.

>>730794075
>they chose West Coast only because it's the most recognizable part of Fallout
But most of the first season used almost nothing that anyone would recognize because it was either not there or from the first two games which almost wouldn’t play. Season 2 goes all in on NV but everything is just so hollow and most also haven’t actually played NV they just know it from memes and shit.

>>730793780
It's fucking nonsense and I lose a little more faith in humanity every time I see people praise the show (which they do on normie social media like instagram)

>>730794587
It has a desert. It's so authentic to Fallout.

>>730787931
Honestly watched this after drinking half a bottle of vodka and it was pretty good

>>730794290
Japan would actually be justifiable unlike other places given the US occupation. There would be loads of US military remnants and caches at all the bases, which would have been used in the war against China, on top of the usual Japanese obsession with American culture which very well might be even more extreme in the Fallout timeline.

>>730794639
After half a bottle of vodka everything is pretty good

>>730794712
The problem with Japan is the whole nuclear thing

>>730794290
Fallout outside of the US feels wrong but making a post apocalyptic game in the same style set in Japan could be interesting. Some neo-feudalism shit with raider gangs and tribes building up power and becoming daimyo and establishing “clans” all want to take over and become the new shogun. You could have yankis, yakuza, shinobi and samurai, maybe some warrior monks and the remains of the royal family.

>>730794480
Fuck no, they're a bunch of retards wearing shoulder pads.

>>730794480
Not really, they are the worst choice in NW and I hate that the writers were cowards and didnt even try to make Legion appealing. They have one positive and several negatives while House and the NCR had positives and negatives.

NCR
>Inclusive, Democracy, cares for everyone - on the surface
>Corrupt only caters to the Brahmin barons

House
>Visionary, protected Vegas, future oriented
>Doesnt care about the people, fully ego driven

then you have the Legion
>regions under legion safe
>Violente, oppressive, flawed, only works as long as Caesar is alive (has terminal brain cancer), Caesars vision of living for Rome unsuccessful because his tribal aren't living for Rome but him, etc.

I could go on and on, but Legion was very obviously made a BAD choice.

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>>730788223
Well then I guess I literally just don't care about this fucking franchise anymore if they want to make it the stupidest fucking world in video games.

>>730794830
They are the smartest Faction from what we were shown in game. Every single Legion character we talk to is well spoken, intelligent and cunning.

>>730791713
We only saw one Securitron with the supposed upgrade which, if it did, would have smoked the black BoS guy and the other knight with its rockets and lasers which is didn’t use. But there was also the fact it was clearly glitching out and I don’t expect the show to elaborate further on it. Just like how they won’t elaborate on why all The Kings are dead / ghouls despite Freeside being mostly intact.

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>>730794512
Fallout Tokyo where instead of a 50s future American setting it was based on 1980s Japan back when they seemed like a dominant rival on the world stage would be kino as fuck.

Vaporwave, VHS tapes instead of terminals, and busted up shitty neon signs everywhere.

https://youtu.be/oFoP8zoyghw?list=RDoFoP8zoyghw
Give us some different music then just Butcher Pete raping all the white women or whatever again. Instead of House introduce a pre-war Japanese emperor that is somehow still alive.

>>730788382
>Fallout 2
>Bethesda
genuinely kill yourself

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>>730795048

>>730795063
it sounds too good to ever be made...

>>730794948
That's completely false, what the fuck were you even playing? They're a self-destructive cargo cult doomed to fail, and the game slaps you across the face with that fact constantly. Stop trying to fit in with your lemon fanfic.

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>>730788382
>Bethesda
>Fallout 2

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>>730794803
You could totally introduce a faction of Japanese samurai trying to recreate Feudal times in a similar manner to Caesar trying to recreate ancient Rome. And the cherry on top is they wear power armor made to look like samurai armor.

If samurai power armor isn't already a Fallout mod it should be.

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>>730795240
>they wear power armor made to look like samurai armor

>>730795184
>Caesar
>Vulpes
>Lanius
>Ulysses
>Joshua

Literally the most educated and well spoken people in the entire game arguably Caesar being the worst of them. I dont even like the legion, this is my post btw >>730794901

But calling Legion stupid just shows how ignorant you are.

>>730787931
>capitalism bad
That is all you needed to know to understand how bad this shit is

>>730789004
Sounds like anti gamergaters were involved on the writers table

>>730795473
I do not understand why these milioners keep making capitalism bad stories...

>mfw the hollywood slop tards can't replicate my imagination fallout show

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>>730795187
You know one of the interesting writing choices is the decision to literally shoot you in the fucking head then bury you and you still somehow survived even with crappy post-apocalypse medical equipment.

Like if it was written later on in the story as a plot twist it would seem like a totally unrealistic stupid asspull but since it happens right at the start you can kind of just roll with it. Not only that but it establishes the Courier is not to be fucked with despite barely telling us any of his backstory.

Kind of like Skyfall with James Bond. The movie knows you know they aren't killing off James Bond within the opening minutes of the movie so when he shows back up alive it's not even treated like a plot twist he's just... there alive.

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>kill a man with no remorse
>immediately get a girlfriend

>>730795451
Oh I thought it was every legionnaire you came across, now it's the named characters.
Retard cargo cult which weaponizes incels, which is exactly why you're so adamant about it.

>>730789004
The only thing I like is that the Enclave still is out there.

>>730795795
weak trolling, do better

>>730794290
>>730794803
>>730795240
NEVER give fallout to the weebs holy shit this sounds bad

>>730787931
so did i(and every faction)

>>730795781
Women have basically evolved to prefer insane rapist serial killers so that's pretty realistic writing

>>730795937
>evolved
lol

>>730789164
The Courier has brain damage from being shot in the head, which lead to him (so they can make a white guy look bad) making all the wrong choices.
Not realizing they are stigmatizing mental impairment, in the way they always make themselves look unintentional racist in these IP murders, like Velma.

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Legion and House have the exact same flaw as in they will either instantly or after a year or two fall apart the moment their leader is dead. The difference being that House (if you get his bots upgraded) has superior firepower to protect him, actual technology to keep him going long enough to accomplish his plans and in the worst case scenario the wits to actually teach someone shit so that person can take on his mantle