Your honest thoughts about this game?
Decent story and great music. Dogshit gameplay. Even sacred stones challenges the player more. I played blind iron man and was still bored for most of it.
One of the easiest entries. Ike can easily solo the game even on Lunatic.It's a good entry point for newcomers though. A shame it has that cancerous tumor Radiant Dawn attached to it.
>>730792381Enemy density is genuinely too high in some stagesForges were busted and so was Bonus XPCavs were also too powerful and when combined with the former issues the game ends up boringAshnard only being damageable with Ike and a few fags you get at the very end of the game was stupid. FE final bosses should at most, only need the plot sword for the final blow.Story is overrated; the baby's first fantasy racism shit isn't that impressive and the god mode hax armor was extremely retarded.
>>730792517I'm only on part 2 of RD but so far it seems way better than por.I didnt even mind the downs brigade
>>730792381It has a lot of dignity
>>730792381i like that Ike's portrait changes after he promotes. Every FE should have that
>>730792381Really, really boring. Both gameplay and visuals did not grab my interest at all. Never finished it.
>>730792381Good, one of the better FE games. I enjoyed the story and characters more than the GBA games from what I can remember. Biggest flaw is how slow animations are, and it's too easy on normal/hard. I liked the sequel more, but PoR has its place as a solid FE title to recommend to newcomers if they have the patience for it.
are there any FE games FE fans actually like?
>>730792381does the switch version have the maniac difficulty in it? I might consider buying a switch 2 if that's the case
>>730796694geneology is universally beloved by every FE fan that didn't play it I guess
>>730796694I like almost all of them, just not por.
>>730792381only fire emblem worth playing
>>730796694No
>>730792486fippy bippy, although I do appreciate some of the gameplay alterations/additions that PoR introduced (the base in general, supports occurring much more naturally, etc). a shame it's tied to a game with a manlet high difficulty ceiling>Even sacred stones challenges the player moresacred stones on hard has some pretty brutal maps though, especially on Ephraim route>>730796694the only games I outright disliked playing were Seisen no Keifu, Awakening and FE12 on H3. besides those, "it's fine" is about as scathing as I get towards any given FE game. only games I've never played are the NES games, RD and Echoes
>>730792381Better than all the FE games from the last decade. >No female lead>No homo shit (despite what cock suckers desperately want you to believe)>Not overtly anime design's >Better story>Peak gameplay
>>730792381I'm not really a FE fan but my older brothers actually did pick this one up back in 2005 so I'm sort of nostalgic for it. Decent game, some of the girls like Mia, Nephenee and Marcia were cute. Soren's a motherfucker but he's cool I guess.
>>730797198H3 specifically, or was that the only difficulty you've played? Are you open to playing Radiant Dawn? The difficulty is much better than PoR.
>>730797347>No female leadElincia, and the sequel has Micaiah as an extra female lead>No homo shitSoiren is extremely fucking gay for Ike, and Heather is introduced in the sequel>Not overtly anime design'sThey are all anime af no matter how hard you cope>Better storyMuh racism, classism and religion bad isn't a good story, not even by FE standards>Peak gameplay(lol
>>730792381Ike is the only good character and radiant dawn is just a reskinned sword art online, but somehow shittier.
>>730794768
>>730797567>FE12H3 specifically. my first run was on H2, and I enjoyed myself well enough with it.>Are you open to playing Radiant Dawn? i intended on getting around to it years ago, but never followed up on it due to a variety of factors (slowly lost interest towards FE in general even if it still exists, other games I wanted to try out more, etc). I still plan on playing it someday, but it's not exactly a priority. I've heard that it's a noticeable step up from PoR at least which is nice>>730797706is there anything to the dignity thing besides it being a standard inflammatory opening remark for a thread?
>>730792381GOAT
>>730792381Made me realize I was more into blue pixels bumping into red pixels than I am nice 3D graphics.
>>730797940Personally I like H5 with the full content patch. It's difficulty gets balanced out by keeping the prologue and getting all the Gaiden chapters without suiciding your army.
>>730792381I wonder how people managed to play this before emulators, enemy phase is downright atrocious and you are forced to rely on EPing whole maps due to how many enemies there are in certain maps.
>>730792381Same as every FE game, way too easy. This one in particular is easy even for a FE game.
>>730792381So far, so good. Feels easy but it's at least more interesting than most FE games I've played. Probably going to be a top 5 once I'm done.
>>730801108look 3 posts above you retard>>730799326>BRO JUST IGNORE THE HALF OF THE GAME THAT THE GAME IS DESIGNED AROUND
>>730792381legit terrible gamehorses are way too overpoweredgame is too easyanimatiions take way too long with no way to skipdisgusting 3d modelsit sits in this middle point between gba games and 3ds games where fire emblem is just ass
>>730801384speed is powerget with the program
>>730801384>animatiions take way too long with no way to skipYou can disable them entirely dumbass.
>>730792381Tellius has some sexy ass men.
>>730801494there's still the stiff axe swinging animations even with animations disabled it just happens on the map instead of it's own pocket dimension.
>>730801494even with animations off every map after ike promotion takes 2+ hoursyou gotta use speed hacks or mods to work arround thiswhich you cannot do with physical hardware
>>7307923813D FEs are cringe
>>730801384>horses are way too overpoweredFirst game in the series?
>>730792381Play it on maniac difficulty
>>730801776All the games that allow mounted units to have canto+ are bad gamesBasic pattern recognition>GenealogyShit game>Three housesShit game
>>730792381Best game in the series by far. The non RNG stats mode should have been a mainstay of the series.
>>730802001Canto+ should be reserved for bowlocked mounted units.
>>730802395>Best game in the series by far.Lol>The non RNG stats mode should have been a mainstay of the seriesIt was in Engage so it might be here to stay now
>>730802001I, for one, like being able to attack then canto and save a village on the same turn.
>>730797570>>730802578Kys trans fag. Engage is not good
>>730792381Trash, Micaiah isn't in it
>>730802697>I, for one, like being able to attack then canto and save a village on the same turn.You can do that in other games, its called using more than 1 unit.
>>730802872Illiterate retard kill yourself
>>730802578Name one game that's better.>He can't.See I knew you couldn't!
>>730802872I didn't even mention Engage, schizo
>>730792381Por was OK, but it moved into that faggy realism instead of the cool stylized sprites. I don't mind the 3d I just wish it expressed things like the old crit animations did. Outrageous shit like flying off the top of the screen to come rocketing down.I also wasn't a fan of the move to the skill system.
>>7308029933, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 17
>>730802993FE1
>>730802939
>>730797570>Soiren is extremely fucking gay for IkeSomething I scratched together in a conversation yesterday> For Soren, imagine not having anyone you can call up and say "Hey let's go for a bite to eat, my treat" throughout your entire life. For Soren's childhood, that was his life. Except orders of magnitudes worse. Humans either treated him with disdain, threw rocks at him to scare him off, tricked him to mock him by first luring him with the prospect of food. And they did it to appease the Laguz who refused to even acknowledge his existence. Hated by humans, shunned by the laguz. This is the type of thing that makes one bitter and recluse. My friend who was a firefighter recounted a story on a kid who couldn't handle the bullying from school and left this world. For Soren had no family, no friends. Nothing. It's incredible how he kept persisting up until he found a pillar of light in the form of one boy, who overlooked his twisted bloodline (out of ignorance at that point) and treated him with dignity as a human being, Ike. > A massacre then occurs, and your new friend is nowhere to be found. But thankfully you don't see your friend's corpse. And everyone still treats you either like the devil or invisible. So what do you do? Look for the one person that actually treats you like a human with dignity. That was Soren's mission and obsession for years. He found a church and mentor who mistook his brand for something else and was obsessed with ensuring his teaching passed on, but didn't particularly treat Soren fondly. Eventually he finds the Greil Mercenaries and is embraced by them as an officer and finally has a community and family of his own (though at PoR's point he considers Ike his only friend). Ike and Soren's relationship is, while admittedly onesided, is a really noble friendship. Ike seems like a normal well to do guy, someone who wants to do right by those around him.
>>730803260> These values aren't that special within our world, but it's remarkable within the world of Tellius and speaks to the character that Ike is. And why it's such an accomplishment and feat of him to be able to command an army of both laguz and beorc.
>>730792381I hate the Tellius setting so much it's unreal. Everything is lame, from the story to the characters to the art direction. Even the gameplay is slow and boring. The game treats you like a drooling retard but tbf GBA games started that trend. At that point IS completely lost sight of what Fire Emblem was supposed to be.
As a Fire Emblem fan I can confidently say the FE community on /v/ at least is utter dogshit full of deranged and tribal people. I'm not reading a single post in this thread. Path of Radiance is good.
>>730803421reddit might be more your speed
>>730803260You're wasting your time strong with fujos. These are the types of people who think Sam and Frodo are gay for each other.
>>730802578There's more than just that mode. PoR introduced stuff that should always have been there and should have never gone away, only polished. Bonus EXP makes total sense, like I played Conquest, garbage ass game only good for Camilla and Elise, and I got a whole ass fucking Fortress as base of operations, yet you telling me these people can't fucking train in there to level up a level or two between campaigns? That makes no sense.The side characters in PoR felt much more alive than any of the shit I played in Conquest as well, even Radiant Dawn which took a massive hit regarding character interactions felt more alive than Conquest.Once I played PoR I literally could not get into any of the games that came before or after, they were missing too much shit. I guess the franchise just always sucked ass.
>>730803421>It's tribal if you objectively assess the game's qualities and don't obsessively suck its dick like we do on Reddit
>>730803627Stopped reading at the shit taste Conquest admission
>>730803717Game sucks and being a contrarian won't change that fact. I legit only bought the game because Camilla made me think with my dick.
>>730792381I honestly like it and tellius is my favorite saga
>>730792381Marriage with Marianne!>>730792381My first Fire Emblem so it holds a special place in my heart.
I like PoR a lot but>enemy phase taking several months>no battle UI>whatever they were thinking with knivesSuck
>>730792486normal mode is easy. Hard is decent.
>>730796694Andaron Saga
The BK fight is basically the real final chapter, everything after feels like an afterthought.
>>730803849>being a contrarian won't change that factHating conquest is the contrarian position, retard. Clearly snore of radiance is more your speed.
>>730796694All of them (except Gaiden/Rev on replays)
>>730796812I played it thoughbeit
>>730803980>the contrarian positionOn contrarian echo chamber /v/ maybe.
>>730804080Even on reddit they'll admit it has the best gameplay in the series. There's nowhere that isn't the popular sentiment.
Very boring
>>730803980Not really. It's bogged down by its dogshit story, censorship and localization. It's gameplay while being one of the better isn't infallible. For every few good maps you get bad ones.
>>730804304Tellius games also have shit stories and were heavily localized. And almost every map in conquest is better than the best map in FE9.
>>730803547It's important to push back because they're trying to pervert a relationship and most people nowadays don't have a frame of reference for brotherhood and platonic love between two of the same gender. And Nintendo Treehouse and feeding Nintendo of Japan this farce of beliefs to make it official.
>>730792381The game that actually ruined fire emblem until the end of time.
Ivy
>>730803902Knives could have been a way for sages to fight other magic users by targeting their usually lower defense stat but magic users in general usually have shit strength anyway. The enemies res stats would have had to have been sky high for that to really be a viable option though I guess.
>>730804943I think it has maybe 1 or 2 good maps. I remember the one on the ships where the crows are stealing treasure being pretty fun.
>>730804582I appreciate your effort anon. Fujos and faggots need to fuck off with trying to turn any kind of normal friendship into faggot shit.
said no one ever you tranny
>>730805048I thought all of act 1 had goon maps except maybe the swamp and that people complaining about the dawn brigade being too weak are just shitters.
Playing it for the first time,It's fine. A bit easy, combat scenes are a bit slow. I like the classic feeling of FE and miss it a lot. No kidshit, reclass autism, or Personafaggotry.
>>730805140I was talking about FE9, but yeah RD has much better maps for the most part until it shits the bed HARD in act 4. Also greil mercs are kinda boring.
>>730796812>Huge Genealogy of the Holy War fan excited for play it for the first time.
Statistically speaking 90% of you didn't play any FE game outside of Three Houses, so you can stop larping.
>>730805268You can absolutely tell they ran out of dev time for act 4. The dropoff in quality is huge, and it's only carried on a first playthrough by essentially being a sandbox for all your handcrafted giganigga units to stomp scrub enemies.
Honestly it's a comfort game, I like that it's a casual fun time that I don't need to juggle a fuck ton of out of battle shit.I wouldn't have as much of an issue with the switch era games if they were purely menu based for it's out of battle preps like in this game.
>>730805367>according to the stats I just made up 5 seconds ago you aren't allowed ro reply to me
If you think greil mercenaries are boring the downs brigade would send you into a coma.
>>730805232Fast forward to Fortune's Weave>No avatar>People get pissed they can't self-insert AND be gay>People will drop it and cry on the only place people like them give a shit>Twitter
>>730805607>>No avatarCai>>People get pissed they can't self-insert AND be gayCai will have gay S supports.>>People will drop it and cry on the only place people like them give a shitIt's Fodlankino so it is impossible for it to flop
>>730805504The downs brigade sucking is why it's more interesting
>>730805367Well, I started with 3H, and then I played every game in the series. My consensus is that:>3H is actually quite shit>Awakening is the worst game in the series (atrocious map design holy shit)>Conquest shows just how good a game can be from maps alone>Engage is the best Fire Emblem game>They need to do more Three Houses stories and less Engage ones but who cares as lnog as the gameplay isn't shit honestly
>>730805692Until I see fem Cai, I'm gonna hold on to hope there is no avatar shit.
>>730805746This unironically, those chapters are all hands on deck and actually succeed in making you feel like the underdogs.I would've rather had an game entirely of these guys then what we ended up getting, Micaiah was robbed.
>>730805792This guy is actually a 3DStranny because anyone who played 3H first would think it's the best game ever made and the rest of this franchise is slop.
>>730805896No need to bait that hard, thread is alive. Hold that one in reserve.
Y'all left /feg/ because Heroeschads bullied you too hard, lmao most pathetic group of sodomites ever.
>>730804147>Even on redditYou should stay there.
>>730804582>And Nintendo Treehouse and feeding Nintendo of Japan this farce of beliefs to make it official.Funny enough, some people have compared to the English TL vs the original Japanese and the translation actually made it seem less gay
>Top tier redesign>Radiant Dawn does her dirty
I just want another like 3H without the Personaslop padding out the runtime. Let me pick areas to specialize my niggas in, have them upgrade through trees as they get stronger, and have some good core maps. Random / Grind maps can be basic, though I'd prefer a game that offers very limited areas to grind.
>>730805854>Micaiah was robbed.good.
>>730806037I quit Heroes during the third season with the death storyline. The new characters were getting obnoxious, and every attack description was a fucking pamphlet. How bad is it now?
>>730806240It's fine because if she A-supports with Ike, she does a full on>Onii-chan no baka
I like avatars because I can force the game to give me a strong Berserker against its will.
>enemy phase>go take a fat shit>come back>still enemy phase
>>730806739and that fat shit's name? Fire Emblem Engage
>>730806696Kris is the only avatar who is actually the best option for that
>>730806739So how are you enjoying PoR so far?
You cannot dislike Fire Emblem Engage and tell me in the same breath that you are a Fire Emblem fan.
>>730806961I hate Fire Emblem Engage and I'm a real Fire Emblem fan.Three Houses is the only game worth a shit in this franchise so the rest of you shit eaters don't matter.
>>730807046Trying way too hard.
>>730806961Depends what you like fire emblem for. I'm a gameplay fag so of course I like Engage but man is it absolutely awful in every other department.
Engage's story kinda sucks but I like the way it sucks.
>>730807117>i like fire emblem for the story mfs when a game hasn't been released with good story for FE since 1999
>>730807108What's so hard for you to believe what I said? It's the truth. Everyone fucking hates Engage and Fates, and Three Houses is the most popular game in this franchise by far. This is simply what the vast majority believes.
>>730792381too slow, too much edging, passive edging,
>>730807046>Three Houses is the only game worth a shit in this franchise so the rest of you shit eaters don't matter.Expedition 33 mentality
>>730807273>The vast majority>Of people who've really only played 3hUnless someone has half the series under their belt, their opinion is less than worthless.
>>730807203It's not just story though. Character designs and overall atmosphere matters a lot. Though the latter is mostly trash due to the localizers having zero writing skills. Their dogshit diction and sentence structure reads like fanfiction.
Brom good
>>730807419There's a reason why most people only played Three Houses.Because the rest of the franchise is shit.
>>730797940Tellius was the last time IS tried making something original instead of just chasing trends
>trannius>original>they just ripoff Berserk
>>730807471Conquest is right there.
>>730807442brom is useless in the first game and in the second game he's a funny disarm scroll attached to a retard, and most of the heavy weapons you could disarm cheese steal are too heavy for base heather unless you steal loop her to x-20-20 in 2-2
>>730806961Can I dislike 3H and Engage or is that not allowed?
>>730807617The only original game in the franchise is Three Houses. The rest is basically AI slop generated stories.
>>730807949That's a fair stance. I like Engage but I do think a lot of people overrate its gameplay.
>>730792381It's far too slow. And also kind of easy.
Not even worth a (You) retarded 3H;RT
>>730808115Yeah its bad combination since it just means most of the game you're waiting for the weak-ass enemies to kill thenselves on your units. By the midgame even Soren can usually take hits from physical enemies without issues.
>>730792381unc emblem was never good
>Fire emblem has some heavy dark themes.
>>730808016I unironically have more fun with FE1 than I do a good majority of games that come after it.I think there's just something wrong with me, I didn't even try it until last year but there's something charming about how primitive it is, hell I think it's better than the DS remake.
>>730808412>B-b-but muh child hunts!
>ctrl+f dark>no resultsWho is blud talking to?
>>730805792Engage gets too much hate when usually FE art and story are bad, I loved actually strategizing for once.
>>730808513Soul is real. I find FE1 too clunky for replays, but yes, it's a better more realized game than the shit soulless CoD grey remake.
>>730808513I think everyone has their personal favorite that they like a lot despite pretty obvious flaws. For me, it's Genealogy.
>>730808513The map design is still in the upper half of the series even if the other mechanics are primitive.
>>730808016I think Engage's fun comes from the amount of cheesing you can do with the emblem rings.>>730807149Engage sucks in the way a soap opera sucks.It's low quality trash, but it's FUN low quality trash>>730807442If Brom good then why the fuck does he die so many times for me
>>730792381>gamevery slow, units dont deal much damage, canto is fun, forging is fun. GOD I MISS THIS BASE CAMP SYSTEM>charactersless tropey than I remember. they spend a lot of time telling you the motivations of characters, for example ike is constantly asking characters why they are fighting in the company after greil dies. every time they go to a new place someone in the cast talks about their time there for worldbuilding sake. i like the toned down visual designs of characters too. all subbies must die.>writingreally funny and i think modern games are trying to ape this writing style but the localizers just arent as talented. there has not been a recent chapter that hasnt gotten some kind of smile or laugh out of me. one of the only fire emblem games that i dont mash start.>storydont care for it particularly. the plot is fine but there is this strange satire in the background about the absurdities of different types of governments or societies from the perspective of a couple backwater mercs and a stowaway princess. replaying this game i cant understand how people miss this satirical theme and substitute it with a serious muh racism bad theme. the racism is a small part of the greater confusion ike faces as he sees more of how the world and nations work.solid 7/10
>>730808753Its honestly shocking how much right they got about the map design in the first entry, Hell it's still leagues above other IP's that came after it.>>730808751I like a lot about 4 but I still find it's pre chapter prep work a tad too much for my liking to really hold it above the others.I'd like rather play it than the switch games but I also wouldn't want a remake because it'd just make that stuff worse like the switch games did.>>730808697the key difference is that the DS remake tried to modernize a game that was never meant for it, weapon triangle messes with the intended gameflow, some classes were balanced around not being able to promote with better stat growths, which i found neat, the EXP formula means that it's not hard to catch up people or switch them in and out as needed for the chapter, putting it back to what it turned into messes with this.FE1 Marth is absolutely amazing, but still can easily die if he tries to face tank too much, FE11 Marth is an absolute chump that should never see combat, this alone is enough to discredit the DS remake.
>>730809132maybe don't play hard 5 for starters :^)
Still want to breed Marth's sister tbqh
I like how "slow" is the primary criticism of this game even though it's practically turbo-mode compared to 90% of SRPGs on the market. I think people forget that FE is just really fast, so even the slow shit like FE9 is still fast compared to the competition.
>>730809268That's the funny thing. I've tried other SRPGs hoping to scratch the itch and it's that slowness that kills them for me. I have no idea how devs ever think that's okay.
>>730809229you kinda want to play FE11 on it's higher levels because on it's lower levels there still isn't any challenge due to how all the mechanic changes end up, these games are unironically better with lower growth totals and having to rely on weapons for your power spikes.>>730809268It's kinda wild how FE is still leagues faster than stuff like Xcom, SRW, Shining Force, could go on and on, I might be having an identity crisis with the series's current direction but it's still way faster paced than anything else of the genre that I can name.
>>730809378maybe because no one is a brain damaged ADHD zoomer like you. But people should post the FE10 enemy phase meme anyway.
>>730809490FE10 will have really long enemy phases but at least like 10 enemies will die. Other SRPGs have enemies that take at least 3 actions to kill, and on top of that they'll force you to deal with shit like changing which direction you're facing, so they're still wayyyyyy slower.
>>730809490Actually I just like a game to be snappy any not to have to wait several minutes on an enemy phase for no reason. A skip button, or even a speed-up, is not asking much. No idea why the fuck that triggers you so hard.
>>730809735That's our resident seethie, he's incapable of anything but frothing rage at anything and everything.
>>730807956>3H>originalIt's literally a bog-standard otome academy isekai, only the protagonist isn't from earth.Dimitri is a caricature of Otome heroes.
>>730809735You would not survive genealogy kek>>730809986better go fail those ironmans and jerk off those drawings FE troon!
>>730810192please understand 3HRT's never played or watched anime at all.
>>730810217>jerk off those drawingsImplying you don't or are you well adjusted? KEK!
>>730809132>Its honestly shocking how much right they got about the map design in the first entry, Hell it's still leagues above other IP's that came after it.I'd say its a bit weird because Gaiden shit the bed with map design. But apparently Kaga only created the story/concept for FE1 and took over as director for Gaiden.I think there were/is probaly some Famicom Wars guys at Intelligent Systems who are responsible for the good maps in FE and Kaga himself was cackhanded. Hence why the maps got better when Kaga left and TeaRing Saga's maps are a travesty of oversized outdoors, tedious swamp terrain maps, and indoor/cave/boat maps with narrow corridors with monster/reinforcement spam grinding the pace to a halt. And enemy formations being seemingly random spatterings of groups of the exact same class.
>>730810345I have no idea what you are talking about because the only thing i said regarding map design was "FE1 was really good maps" and "stuff after it missed the mark"which does include naturally stuff like Gaiden and TearRing which do have bad maps, did you make up a strawman in your head just to attack an unrelated subject?
>>730810343I'm better than you for sure!
>>730810924Bahahaha I doubt it, how do you think so?
>>730792381Good game, I just wish it was faster and showed stats in the battle screen and had a proper Lunatic mode instead of the shitty Maniac mode that's in the JP version.
I'm pogging!!
>>730812097Dermott huh... t-thanks Seliph I guess
>>730812317Would you have preferred Lester?
>>730812549I was going to say Fee but the next map has a shitton of ballistas
>>730810192Please don’t respond to the obvious bait.
>>730808412i've seen ikefags claim without a shred of irony that path of radiance is darker than game of thrones because of the one scene at the end of the game of the laguz experimentation chamber
>>730813353Why do Western fans want FE to be Game of Thrones so badly?
>>730805792(Ped)Ophelia!
>>730813976Best child.>>730813602Because ASOIAF is peak (it copied FE4)
>>730792381You can definitely tell this is a Kaga game they repurposed (stole). TRS does it better.
>>730812317New Theory gives you Ares + a couple other FE4 characters depending on route here
>>730792381It's slow, boring, ugly and braindead and only jacked off because it's surrounded by much more successful titles before and definitely after it.
>>730809490
Ike's wife
>>730807515What the fuck is original about Tellius? Animal people in your fantasy setting? An evil monarch who wants to take over the world? Your dad being killed and you wanting to avenge him? You being a small band of elite soldiers who turn the tide of war? It's so generic that it's insane, the only thing good about it is the dialogue is more mature than the average fire emblem but even that's a low bar.
>>730815892Okay Mr. I've Seen Everything, write something original for Fire Emblem while still keeping a grounded medieval setting, oh wait, you can'tNothing new under the sun
>>730815563>No endings with ike on radiant downs kwab
>>730756447this lowen is below every stat other than skill
Its curious to me that we all implicitly agree that one of conquest, 3h, or engage are the best game of the franchise, yet whenever a new player asks for a game to play, you guys always suggest them two of the most braindead games that you dont even like.I see literally every time someone asks in these threads people suggesting POR or SS. When sacred stones was the NSO fire emblem everyone was commenting about how boring it was and now that POR is the NSO game i see people complaining about how slow it is and easy and bad story etc. Why do you guys even bother recommending games that you yourselves dont like rather than the games we all agree are the peak of the franchise? I wouldnt continue to play the series if my first fire emblems were the tellius games.>t.started with 7
>>730816472Not me, my favorite game is FE8.
>>730816383eliwood scrimblo
>getting ass kicked by cripple one-armed dad>attacks crippled dad from behind while doing wimpy, gay battle cry>gets knocked the fuck out>dreams about his mommyimagine if any komuro protagonist introduction was like this
>>730816472I don't agree albeit. Also I started with Shadow Dragon which most people here think is "shit". This shit doesn't matter nearly as much as you think.
>>730816383the law of averages strikes again here comes the stats.
>>730816472Well, I started with 3H but PoR has the most balance out of all Fire Emblems, which is why I recommend it as the first FE. It has a decent story, decent gameplay, gives you skills, shows you supports and even has a sequel to entice you into playing more of the series.
>>730816881QUICK REPLACE HIM WITH SAIN HE HAS A HIGHER STRENGTH GROWTH
>>730816472When you recommend a game to someone to get into a series, you recommend them the ones that are the easiest to get into, not your personal favorites.
>>730816472Who the fuck is "we"??My favorite is FE5 and I always recommend FE7
>>730816881I'm impressed, he went from being cursed to perfectly average with this one level. Too bad that his average really isn't that impressive, even if tolerable.
>>730816881marcus got surrounded.
>>730816472>conquest, 3h, or engageFire Emblem fans think those are the worst dogshit tranny Fatlus fag slop though?
>>730817206Nigga how is that possible unless you intentionally unequip him
>>730817206holy retard
>>730817261>>730817264he had a hand axe out while sword cavs were fast enough to not get doubled but he enemy phased most of them.
>>730817247Name one fire emblem fan
>>730792381Game's good, sadly the only way you can play maniac is by playing the japanese version or emulating the jap version with the translation patch.
>>730816472There is truth in this in the sense where you shouldn't recommend a game that you don't like much just because it hits some arbitrary checkmarks, but recommending a game purely off personal enjoyement isn't always the best either. For instance, recommending Birthright as a starting game over Conquest is generally preferable since Conquest fully expects you to be a skilled player from the very start, while Birthright bothers teaching new players and is most enjoyable when you haven't mastered FE's mechanics yet.
>>730817359Mangs
>>730817335going to let serra get hit here because otherwise matthew would be stuck in the village until the bandit dies.
>>730817481Is Merlinus okay?
>>730817359Mekkah
>>730817481priscilla would be in danger if not for the rain>>730817519merlinus is alive hector is back defending the tent.
>>730817359Me
>>730817459Both of those games have the exact same tutorial
>>730817247Newsissy... we love Conquest here
>>730817578Nice, this map is as good as solved then. I'm happy that we're beating it cleanly for once.
>>730817641I don't though
>>730817206>>730817335>Marcus totally solos the game with a hand ACK!!
>>730817641Everytime I see Conquest I am now reminded that lunatic did it with negative growths. NO CHILDREN.
>>730816472The real question is why does no one recommend shadows? Its got the best gameplay since CQ
>>730817692Yeah that was pretty impressive. 100% negative, even.
>>730817727FE Shadows is just too different from the rest of the series, plus it has very little amount of content and only 1 game mode.
>>730817578hector hit the pegasus so i think it will retreat to a fort for heals, or just hit merlinus once which i don't think is lethal.
>>730817481These are the type of gameplay decisions you get after a year of spamming stat boosters on healers>inb4 /vfeg/ culture
>>730817601Yes, but one will kick your ass the moment that you beat the tutorial, while the other will continue easing you into the mechanics. The split for CQ and BR was an extremely clever design idea by IS that doesn't get the recognition it deserves because Pokémon traumatized people with its 99% identical versions.
>>730817727shadows of valentia was unmitigated dogshit with horrible gameplay
>>730816472>Its curious to me that we all implicitly agree that one of conquest, 3h, or engage are the best game of the franchiseBut that's just your newfaggotry (recency bias) speaking. In time these games will get Awakening'd - they're a big deal now, but what about a decade from now, when there's a shiny new toy?I'm a Conquestfag and think it's eternal and timeless, but not everyone shares my opinion. I *liked* Engage but the best? lolno. 3H is normalslop, you love it or you hate it.Fire Emblem is a series that has more old games than new. So people will recommend old games because they're actually still largely good, even if we might have our individual preferences.
>>730817819trying to move some of the units back to help with the pegasus spam. oswin is walling the main force near the upper village.
>>730818121There's no recency bias, Conquest and Engage are the funnest, most in-depth systems Fire Emblem has had, period.
>>730818189oh no.
>>730818252Engage is so fucking overrated it's honestly sickening. The game is very fun but the depth is seriously missing in a lot of areas once you see what's good. Every unit is extremely samefaggy because they gutted the 3DS reclass mechanics that effectively made characters unique, personal skills suck, and emblems determine everything.It's a lot of fun but it's pinheaded to throw games like FE5 and even the GBA games under the bus to uplift this clown game.
>[game that came out in the past 10 years that will give me the most internet clout for saying it's good] is the best FE gamethere solved all of /vfeg/'s FE opinions until the end of time
>>730818423Conquest is over 10 years old now thoughbeit
>>730818252You need to wake up, Engage is dogshit bro. weapon break and ring gacha are not it
Path of Radiance has better maps and gameplay than Conquest. Gimmick shit does not make the maps good. PoR has good objective variance and fun side objectives. It also has the almost all the best FE mechanics included. CQ doesn't even have fucking fog of war and you can't even fucking steal items, let alone weapons.
>>730818404>FE5Juggernaut>GBANo skills
>cq doesn't have dogshit fog jumpscare maps so it's badlol
>gimmick shit does not make the maps good>unless it's desert maps, crow spam, eating rock, or priest shoving
>>730796694FE6 for me. I don't care about your complaints with the ambush spawns you casuals.
>>730818498>Path of Radiance has better maps and gameplay than Conquest
Can’t take oldfags seriously when someone is fucking up an easy map just a few posts above.
>>730818404>Engage is so fucking overrated it's honestly sickeningThis but Conquest.> they gutted the 3DS reclass mechanicsand that's a good thing, because they were shit.
>>730818541bonded shield lol
>>730818270i set up a rescue drop and even did it last turn but realized that there's no point as none of these guys have ranged weapons.
So true engaygie sister better go defend your shitty SP system imported from Heroes.
>>730818684Not on your blind playthrough you didn't
>>730797347>No Avatar SlopThis is the most important thing to me
>>730818586I'm so glad that CQ doesn't have a shitty desert map. Only FE6 managed to make one that doesn't suck absolute dick.
>>730818541Bonded Shield, retard. We can go back and forth and do this all day. There's obviously more to these games than one-word gotchas. My problem with Engage is that, while fun and inventive, it's bloated as shit and many of systems fight itself. It just gets boring once you realize the answer is literally always inherit Canter + a stat-boosting skill.>>730818648They were the only things keeping units unique. Every Engage unit is a clone of 3 other units, it's ridiculous. The entire conceit of Engage tier lists is built upon the false premise the units are actually Very Different, when they're not. Most copypasted cast in modern FE history.
>>730818781Living Legend and Scorched Sand are good.
>>730818498I do miss things like BEXP requirements and recruit conditions and moving side objectives in NUfe. I wouldnt say POR is better than CQ, but I think it had a better philosophy for encouraging proactive play than any other games in the series. Reinforcement spam is a much worse way to force the player forward than rewarding free form EXP for completing the map fast and fulfilling requirements during the gameplay.BEXP itself is a horrible mechanic though that leads to obscene snowballing and its why I think most people find POR too easy
>>730792381Good for one playthrough. The utterly awful map design doesn't make it a great game to replay. Easily bottom 3 maps in the entire franchise and romhacks included.
>>730818586Case in point. A desert map. FE staple. CQ doesn't have one.
>>730803889Lol shut up human bot
>>730818586Quickest pwn in the history of FE threads
>defending FE6 chapter 14
>>730818758>every character in the game sucks his dick unconditionally>knows nothing about the world he supposedly lives in despite being in a mercenary group and son of the most legendary warrior in the countryright, totally different from le heckin avatarinos
>>730818781That FE9 map is a serious contender for worst map in the entire franchise. At least the terrible Gaiden one people meme on has enemies that can attack you from range. The laguz just sit there and repeatedly transform then untransform while you move 1 tile per turn. picking up hidden garbage.
>>730818686switched oswin for lowen
>>730818586Only desert map I liked was from FE1
>>730818826>Desert only exists to waste your time and nothing else>Hidden items waste your time furtherNo, they both suck
>>730818981Both those things exist in Arcadia and are 100 times worse there lol
>>730803421The franchise cheated death and attracted a normie audience for the worst
>>730818901It's unironically the best map in FE6, and fags get filtered by the fact that it requires top notch strategy if you want to achieve every objective.
>>730818781Scorched sand is fantastic, most of the combat takes place outside of the desert tiles
>>730818739>calls FE5 a juggernaut game>has the gall to claim that engage isn't when you play it blindAnd what about Thracia blind?
>>730818913>The laguz just sit there and repeatedly transform then untransform while you move 1 tile per turnThey move to attack if you enter their range when transformed, and if you enter their transformed move-attack range while they're untransformed, they'll consume a laguz stone to transform if they have one. Trying to steal the laguz stones is a fun challenge.
>>730796812kek it really do be like that
>>730796812Are we talking Western Fans or Japanese Fans?You gotta be specific here
Not even worth a (You) FE6 shitter.
>>730819105Engagesissy didn't play that game and is just copying buzzwords he heard from these threads
>>730818781moving units 2 tiles at a time while getting meteor'd is ludokino
>>730819107>Trying to steal the laguz stones is a fun challenge.Maybe if laguz units weren't worthless dogshit lmao
>>730819023Arcadia's desert has a purpose because you can lose the best ending if you waste too much time, making it a race to achieve objectives. Also, it's designed in such a way where your main force can avoid 99% of the desert if you recognize that the north is a clear path to the throne without desert terrain to slow you down.
>>730818918just this guy have to wait for him to move.
>>730807956Fuck off, Harry Potter Emblem is overrated and did not deserve the sales it got
>>730792381I never liked the transition to 3D because all the combat animations sucked ass. rip 2D FE
>>730819197Doesn't seem like a good map then if its main selling point is how much you can ignore its main gimmick lol
>retards getting filtered by fog and desertsMaybe you should stop sucking horsecock and use some infantry for once? I'm sure some day you'll discover torches too.
>>730818826>Living Legend good>route map in a fucking desert>praying to god Pent doesn't die or kill every enemy, which ends the mapI do really like Scorched Sand though.
>>730819215sucks about merlinus but otherwise went wellsave: https://files.catbox.moe/k8vx6w.sav
>>730819290>Use infantry>Can now move 2 tiles instead of 1>Fliers OP as everDesert is shit retard
>>730819173Don't they sell for a decent price?
>>730819272You can, if you want to miss out on the best loot in the game. If you don't, you'll need a desert exploration squad that is picked out properly to face the threats in the map, and you still need to face the first few turns in a disadvantegous position before you get control over the northern pathway.
>>730819259Cope and seethe, engaygieEveryone loves the Harry Potter theme. FW should have taken place inside a magical school too, instead of a shitty coliseum. oh well
>>730819381You get them for Reyson
>>730819313>I used route instead of routIt's over...
>>730819381Who cares? It's a terrible map even if you can make money from it. The hidden items don't make it any more interesting, either.
>>730818498>Path of Radiance has better maps and gameplay than ConquestOnly if your ideal FE gameplay is being able to blindly send your units at the enemy without checking stats, weapons or attack ranges and still winning 90% of the time.
>stuff that FE shits hate >snow>sand>loading screens>not having fast forward>chores>having save states what else?
>>730819197>if you waste too much timeThe time limit is extremely generous. The bandit fag bosses show up on turn 6 and they have enough time to walk to the throne before the time limit.
>>730819509>female protags
>>730819441>desert exploration squadThe reality: melady melady meladyIn fact all 3 GBA desert maps have the exact same DNA of a core mechanic that incentivizes you to push through the sand quickly. This is just cherrypicking for the sake of being hipster about it.
>>730819509Adult women
>>730819509sorry people didnt like fe4 after actually playing it kagabro
>>730819509Notice the commonality between all these things is "stuff that slows the game down"? People don't want their time wasted. I'm not a fan of the cheat-wheel in newer games, but the rest of that garbage absolutely sucks and should be minimized.
>>730818498>Path of Radiance has better maps and gameplay than Conquest.Bro I don't even like Conquest that much, but what is this statement lmaoConquest has some shit maps for sure, but nothing close to the horribleness that is Clash!PoR doesn't even have insanely good maps like Conquest Ch10 either and don't even get me started on the gameplay. It's the same javelin/hand axe fest that FE7 was.Characters, plot and setting are all great, but holy moly does the game play like ass compared to other entries.
>>730812097>>730812317>Forest Girl PussyLike Uncle like nephew I guessIf you know you know, Here's a crazy parallel Dierdre and Sara both come with a Silence Staff
How do you predict Fortune's Weave will affect Fire Emblem discourse?
>>730819871depends on how pozzed it is
3D map animations always take too long because, intuitively, developers don't want to show 3D models just bumping into each other with no animation whatsoever, whereas this is common and accepted in sprite-based games. Engage has the same problem as PoR, but fortunately it has in-built speed-up and you can skip enemy phase.
>>730818913>That FE9 map is a serious contender for worst map in the entire franchiseHalf of FE9's maps are the worst maps in the franchise and the other half are big empty fields where IS accidentally painted the map with enemy unpromoted mages instead of with terrain.
>>730819597Pent and the Eirika/Ephraim squad are more than strong enough to give you all the time in the world. Also, soloing with Melady requires extensive knowledge of the map, else she gets murdered by the anti Melady mages spread around the map.
>>730819871its gonna suck and people will retroactively rate 3h higher as a comparison
>>730815563Why can't we get cute Catgirls in Fire Emblem anymore?>>730817727Soulful Annas stop at Awakening
>>730819871I seriously think the writing is going to make Fodlanfags rage for half a decade. It's not going to be what they want and we're not going to hear the end of how it "had so much potential" or how this or that was "wasted." Predicting another Conquest situation, basically. Only this time with racebait. How lovely.
>>730792486>even sacred stonesNo lol. You can not regularly do 30+ non-crit damage to 98% of the enemies in path a radiance.
>>730819597I'd argue the SS map actually promotes you combining your two armies and turtling up to defend your squishy lords against flyer reinforcement spam before eventually taking out the two bosses.
>>730820106>he doesnt like warriors anna
>>730820146He's right. SS has a *few* challenging maps like phantom ship. There is not one map in NA PoR that can even keep me awake.
>>730819871I have a feeling that discourse over it is going to be similar to Metaphor RefantazioFor better or worse
>>730819871The price of the game and if we're lucky, Day 1 DLC and if the RNG Gods bless us it will be a GKC Game Key Card
>>730819672honestly as maps get larger and larger turnwheel becomes more and more reasonable. for example, ask people who played fe9 ch17 blind on gamecube.
>>730817727>fe shadows>(YOU) are the anna
Can we have FE threads on /v/ again or is that weird schizo still here?
>>730820397Raul and his attack dog are on vacation
>>730820397You're safe. The new captcha filtered him out
>>730820397He got banned from another McDonalds so we're safe for a couple weeks
>Kurtnigger thinks he is part of the team
>>730796694i honestly love all of them, i haven't yet touched fe12 or fe14 revelations though
>>730820280The maps aren't any larger, though. The problem is mechanical bloat. Engage has so much crap in it that you can do in a turn, and it often needs to be done sequentially for effect, that I often end up using my re-dos just fixing a bad sequence rather than a death. This could just as well be remedied with Disgaea's system where you don't commit to a turn's actions until turn-confirmation but they don't wanna do something sensible like that.
>>730820194Ehhh she's fine I guess?? But still has too much Awakening influence on her design or maybe its the art style of the game overall
>>730820483Holy kot!
>>730820483God wanna huggle and snuggle this cute Cat
>>730820485>Disgaea's system where you don't commit to a turn's actions until turn-confirmation but they don't wanna do something sensible like that.That would be terrible. The game fundamentally depends on the player changing their tactics based on RNG factors that play out over the course of their turn.
>>730820716Both systems could be in place. You could confirm a series of actions whenever you want, for example. When I'm routing a big complicated turn, though, sometimes I make sequence errors. It would be nice to be able to "undo" those without literally cheating.
>it's mechanical bloat when i have to strategize and consider the order i do things in a strategy rpgkotaku writers found the bread
What are our thoughts on Shez's game?
>>730820917i only played Dimitri's route, should i bother with the rest? I remember having fun and liking the soundtrack
>>730820910Would you quit being retarded? Engage has multiple inputs that you have to do in a specific order to even get the effect. I've seen streamers fuck up on small stuff like that after hundreds of hours playing the game. Being able to undo that without cheating is not a big ask.Of course the game should just not have such input contradictions in the first place, but it's not uncommon to move a character first who should have been moved second and then to immediately realize you didn't want to do that.
>>730792381Great in basically every aspect that ISN'T gameplay, and even then it still manages to do a few things right there. Story is solid, has some of the most realistic characters in the entire franchise, the music is great and the aesthetics are good for the time period and console it's on. Unfortunately it's slow, the devs felt like quantity beats quality in terms of the difficulty of enemies, 2x effectiveness on weapons is a total joke and makes them pointless, magic is even more of a joke(how the fuck do multiple tomes have less than 5 mt), it's extremely easy to snowball, and the final boss on hard is absolutely atrocious. Though I do like the base preps, BEXP, and how supports don't need you to waste a trillion turns, it ultimately doesn't play that well after experiencing some of the later entries and even a few of the earlier ones. Still a great game imo.
>>730818735Damn I can't believe Tactics Ogre PSP ripped of Heroes' SP system too...
>>730820146>No lol. You can not regularly do 30+ non-crit damage to 98% of the enemies in path a radiance.The enemies are less dangerous in PoR though. There's mid-late game enemies that run around with Venin weapons that are literally weaker than irons.
>>730821119It's always funny watching someone with loads of hours in the game forget to engage before trading or using the convoy.
I reached chapter 10 in porwho do I give my 1500 bexp to? or should i save it
Playing PoR is like taking a sleep aid.
>>730821486marcia and astrid. its also kind of bad to do too much bexp while you have a low amount of scrimblos to train because they get less exp from combat. when you have a full squad its better
>>730821486Marcia
>>730821486>meme answerRolf>objectively the best answerMarciaBut personally I'd say your favorite character so far.
>>730821597>>730821593>>730821586You take the A the R and the C out of there and you got the right answer
>>730821823kys noodle arms
>>730821823She's almost as big of a meme as Rolf. The fact that I've gotten her to 20 unpromoted with less than 10 strength before is fucking insane.
>>730821486Ilyana
>>730821853She keeps dodging the noose
>>730821486I usually pour some into Marcia and little into, and I know some will probably dislike it, Mist. I like shoring up Mist some and promoting her early with a promo item for a canto healer.
I love my silly wife
>>730822283>L1
>>730821823Mia sucks, at level 20/20 she's barely better than Stefan at level 8. And he has a cap of 24 strength instead of 22 like Mia
>>730821486I'm seeing a lot of support for Marcia, and while I don't think that's a bad idea necessarily, I feel like Marcia should be fairly self-sufficient for exp, especially if you're not playing maniac. I would say it's best to give it to Mist because you want her to get on her horse ASAP. Magic users in general are a good idea because the mages can become another staff bot and Rhys can gain the ability to attack.
>>730792381Laguz women owe me sex
>>730819871This
>>730822717>people discovering what an unrepentant bitch Lethe is for the first time>discovering soren isnt just a quirky wholesome chungus gay scrunko>discovering ike is actually really bad in his own gameGod bless NSO for exposing so many secondaries
>>730822459>he has a cap of 24 strength instead of 22 like MiaThat doesn't matter in the late game because Mia can get +4 attack from supports while Stefan can only get +2, so it evens out. The real difference you want to look at between the two is luck.
>>730822630The thing with Mist getting exp is that she doesn't really promo anywhere near when you get her due to how low her starting level is. Unless you're doing nothing but dumping every single drop of bexp into her, she's not getting the horse much quicker than she would otherwise. Plus she's just a staffbot regardless, she's literally never going to be good in combat without the luckiest levels ever, and that function doesn't change at all regardless of how many levels she gets. Marcia at the very least can get better offenses and defenses with bexp, which makes her more reliable and easier to use effectively because she's nothing BUT a combat unit.
>>730822829It's been great, I liked FE9 because of that kind of stuff.
I’ve never liked Fire Emblem (tried the Lyn one, Sacred Stones, Awakening, and Conquest) is this game different and would my 1000 hours of Ike in Smash Brawl and Ultimate make me care for the game or should I just not play it
>>730822829It has been quite funny seeing people's reactions to Soren being just as racist as Shin'on when for so long Shin'on was the punching bag for being 'le racist"
>>730823014Don't play it
>>730823014Path of Radiance is a Fire Emblem ass Fire Emblem so if you didn't like others you wouldn't like this unless you're a giga fag for Ike.
>>730822829>ike is actually really bad in his own gameThere are no bad units in easy games. Its easier to solo fe9 hard with ike than it is to solo fe13 hard with robin.
>>730822829>politic addicts try out the epic anti-racist chungus Fire Emblem game for the first time>turns out half the main cast is racist as fuck
>>730823241I'd say It's less that Ike is really bad, but more of He's nowhere near close to the best unit in his game.He's somewhere around Mid until he promotes, then he's still High Middle until he gets Ragnell.
>>730823014>didnt like conquestFuck off
>>730823241>solo fe9 hard with ikei tried this for a while until i got bored and iirc ike was almost level 20 before even getting base preps
>>730823241Soloing games doesnt mean a unit is good. You get like 20 stat boosters in POR
>>730822904>she's literally never going to be good in combat without the luckiest levels everThis Mist was basically on her averages, but she put in some good combat work. She did some frontlining on Clash. The idea isn't necessarily to make her a good combat unit, the point is to increase her safety. You want her to pick up HP, SPD, LCK and possibly some DEF so that you can use her more aggressively without fear of death. Getting on a horse helps that further with extra move and canto to boot.
How did humans even end up enslaving bird and dragon laguz in the first place? They can fly.
>Soloing games doesnt mean a unit is good.
>>730823241This is just a bald-faced lie, wow
>>730792381my raw, unfiltered, dogshit opinion?eh, it's finepretty easy unless you play JP Maniac which clearly a lot of anons ITT haventthey seem to forget that the game's difficulty was essentially shifted to the left when moving from JP to NANA Easy is Brand New, NA Normal = JP Easy, NA Hard = JP Normal, JP Maniac was removed entirelythat really kills the gameplay since you barely need to interact with any of it to win, the default difficulty and even hard mode is basically at best playing normal mode on any other gamemost of the units you get (ike included) are really bad, mainstats for most of your unit's classes commonly sit with ~40% or lower growthrateit's just that on the NA version, all the enemies are outright so much fucking worse than your own shitty units that it doesn't matter when even Mia, who would be fucking terrible in any other game is good in this game, you know the bar is super lowthis isn't to say that JP Hard/Maniac is ballbustingly hard or incredible to play or anything, it just means the gameplay isn't a snoozerthat said, it puts catgirls in the game and for that it's 10/10
>>730823454Why are conquestsissies so fragile? No other game gets this reaction when someone says they don't like it.
>>730823708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prCMftBpnOYHoly shit eirika was a good unit all along!! She can solo the game that slams relay trannies necks into the noose all by herself!
>>73082367516 strength is pretty unimpressive especially at level 20/20.>the point is to increase her safetyShe doesn't really need that, just keep her behind everyone else, especially easy to do with a physic. I'm not saying I don't see where you're coming from, she is easier to use with a promo, but she's not going to be clearing groups of enemies like Marcia would, which is ultimately more important than healing in a game where the biggest problem is enemy density.
>>730823810>catgirls = 10/10 gameShadowsGODS... we did it!
>>730823836I seriously cannot fathom why Ike became the face of pre-Awakening soloing. Is it Smashfaggotry? Ragnell? (you have it for lik 3 chapters) Lord solos are nothing new and not remotely unique to him. He has a flamingly awful start, genuinely Roy tier, but this is all ignored because he can le solo his game (eventually)!!
>>730821586>>730821593>>730821597i didn't know i had to talk to her in chapter 3 (first time playing por) so i don't have her
>>730792486fyiPoR Normal Mode = JP Easy ModePoR Hard Mode = JP Normal Modeit's easy because localization nerfed the difficulty
>>730823014I doubt PoR is going to change your mind since it's mostly similar to the GBA ones you already tried except with some returning features from the SNES era. At this point, you should probably just try one of the experimental entries like Echoes, Genealogy, or 3H.
>>730824147>>it's easy because localization nerfed the difficultyManiac is still a shit difficulty that just spams a million enemies, most of whom are not remotely threatening.
>>730824126Oscar then probably.
>>730818909Show me Ike’s female variantCheckmate bitch
>>730824126Jill then
>>730824126>He didn't get MarciaRIP the GOAT
>>730819509Avatars
>>730819857Such an underrated shippingNanna X Leif is overrated
>>730824570kys sara pedo
https://files.catbox.moe/hm1spi.jpg
>>730823915>16 strength is pretty unimpressiveIt certainly pales next to Boyd's 30, but it was enough for her to scratch her sword rank up over time, and 25 MAG is nice for the Sonic Sword and Runesword. I just wish I had remembered to hammerne the Sonic sword before it broke.
>>730824070Not only does Ike have a bad start, he's borderline useless during chapter 17. 17-4 in particular for an Ike solo is just him trying to hide in a corner and spamming full heals until Tibarn kills Oliver.Ike is typically in the bottom half of your units until he promotes, then he's just somewhere in the middle until Ragnell.
>>730824203>most of whom are not remotely threatening.The enemies have more stats than most bosses in the game.Just tell you never played the difficulty.
>>730824810>Broo maniac is so hard. The enemies are so strong I stand in an empty field on Clash killing 20 per turn and my biggest concern is breaking my weapons.
>>730824810>this random paladin in 17-2 has better stats than my OscarOne of my fave FE9 maniac quotes.
>>730824810name the threatening bossesi'll wait
>>730824964Clash has like 5 siege tomes and a sleep staff and tons of silver weapons to deal with. Its really hard on maniac mode
>>730796694FE3 for how simple it is while remaking the first game
>>730824610Sara? Pedo?
>>730825043Oliver is kinda hard but you can just break his weapon with a trained mage. It prevents you from getting the Nosferatu but who cares honestly?Ashnard is very powerful and can probably one shot the majority of your army and is highly mobile The crow guy is very difficult if you don't use the talk conversations to calm him without fighting The black knight is difficult though you're given the opportunity to run from him every single time.
>>730825075Another factor that people aren't taking into account is Elicina, she's forced deployed and is an automatic game over, she's also painfully weak for this part of the game, at best she can physic staff, but it's easy for siege tomes to take her down, if she's put to sleep you need to keep her protected, and if one of your units in your defensive wall falls, she's usually next.Clash is a garbage stage but it is not garbage because it's too easy, it's the exact opposite on Maniac mode.
>>730825075I'm almost tempted to play this meme difficulty just to prove how not hard it is. What are the limitations one must impose upon themselves to not steamroll it? I'm guessing resetting for near-perfect BEXP levels isn't kosher? No growth bands? No thunder glitch?
Tell me your opinion on Awakening Lunatic's difficulty, and I'll know the answer to whether PoR Maniac is actually hard
>>730825330not even trying to be a nitpicky faggot about it but all of these are both late in the game and also avoidable, oliver in particular i feel like i have to rush in to nab before he gets raped by tibarn, though now you've got me kind of curious how one handles maniac ashnard if their ike is really bad
>>730825806>how do you handle Ashnard is Ike is really badTypically you give Ena Wrath and Resolve and pray she can kill Ashnard's first form so you can call in Giffca to kill Ashnard's second form.I'm kinda shocked faggots are so retarded in their attempts to shit on FE9 they don't go for these obviously awful game design issues that are clear to anyone that has played it, unless ofcourse they haven't touched it, then it makes sense.I'm shitting on it because I've played it.faggots are shitting on it because they haven't played itwe are not the same.
>>730825075>Clash has like 5 siege tomesIt really helps if you know their movement patterns too, so you don't pull ones you don't have to and add to your pile of troubles. Clash is such a fun map if you're prepared for it. I don't think Maniac is too hard, but it's just the right amount to keep things crispy. I've seen people do challenge runs like iron weapons only (no forge) and no shopping at all (not even spending money on Volke's services)>>730825459>ElinciaIt's very wise to return to base and gorge her on any BEXP you have to shore up her bulk. For the early part of the map, you can create a 'safety box' in the corner using a diagonal line of six strong units against everything but fliers and long range attacks.
>>730825561It is quite difficult, but it's not as impossible as some would have you think. I completed an ironman run of it without doing any of the cheesy things you mentioned, although I don't consider the growth bands that cheesy and wouldn't have minded having them. The difficulty comes from much higher enemy quality and quantity, as well as a ton of siege tomes and status staves. The latter can be used to your advantage though, since you can have Volke steal you a ton of sleep and silence staves in the late game, as well as physics. I actually really enjoyed playing it and would recommend you give it a try.
>>730823454If it makes you feel better, I actually did beat that one. I thought the story sucked and half the levels were alright and the other half were bad. The best one was like on a pier or something.
>>730827089This is a horrible larp, dude.
>>730826712>you can have Volke steal you a ton of sleep and silence staves in the late game, as well as physicsThe stealing game is one of the reasons I like PoR so much. Those very physics you mention, you have to not trigger the enemy to use them if you want all the uses. In the late game, enemies very commonly carry 2 weapons, a 1-range and a 1-2 range, so they often just gift you goodies like this. I had a ton of gold by the end because I kept my army stocked on the enemy's dime.
>>730792381best one>b-butdon't care, best one
>>730825906i always get tired of por maniac around serenes forest, but it sounds like a lot of the True Maniac Experience comes directly afterwards, so i'll have to try powering through it soon to have actual firsthand experience i JUST started nocturne insaniax, fuggggg
>>730804943People will use this meme for literally anything
>>730807442Post your turn counts
>>730825173Sara is like 10 or something
>>730813353> Meanwhile in the last game
>>730827882What's dark about that?
>>730792381I borrowed it for a week from a classmate and got to black knight but I couldn't beat him, that's my experience with it.
>>730815563*Jill's GF
>>730823454If someone gives this reaction when they say they don’t like a certain game, there is a good chance it’s highly overrated.
>>730817692Video? Or was it an anon here
>>730818404out of touch post
>>730829206https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5auIOIczFo
>>730818842Ultimate Power has desert tiles. Get PWNED nigger
>>730818404>>730818648Both are true.
>>730818404Trvke. Tired of the Engage gassing, but the 3H fags are obnoxious and make dumb criticisms so I always have to end up defending it anyways.
>>730829712If you ask me. Engage has both the worst design flaws of Blazing Sword and Radiant Dawn.
>>730821597Rolf is doable unless you're someone that doesn't know how to manage your roster properly and around bexp in who to give it to. If you give it to any of the starting game characters or Mist (when she can just spam heal for exp) then you're just dumb. Giving it to someone like Rolf or Nepheenee, then you're a based individual. Frankly Rolf gets exp just fine to start playing catch up on the chapter he joins in and the raven laguz boat chapter. Rolf surpasses Shinon by the time he rejoins unless you're somehow rng screwed and giving Rolf an archer (high accuracy) Gamble scroll is far better off than Kieran an axe unit (low accuracy) having it. That said when it comes to the archers in the game Astrid's the best one just simply due to her exp gain skill and being a mounted unit with how canto in this game is, but I just prefer having Rolf along with his brothers around for bond supports since they get more additional stats when near each other along with their unique triangle attack. Was satisfying taking out Naesala with Rolf. I'd agree with you on not using Rolf if Path of Radiance wasn't easy enough as it is on par with Sacred Stones.
i liked engage!
>>730822829Chapter 3 is literally Ike's solo exp farm chapter. You're just a complete liar or plain stupid for not realizing since giving the exp to the other available units that chapter is such a waste of exp.
>>730830445I'm not saying Rolf can't work, more that he's not really worth it unless you're giving him a lot of favoritism, such as 1500 points of bexp.
>>730830678Soren, go back to redd*t
>>730792381Might do a no forge, no BEXP Iron Man of this game just for kicks.
Cutesythea
>>730830678>giving the exp to the other available units that chapter is such a waste of exp.The best use of the Boss Exp on Chapter 3 is Titania(as is most of the early Boss Exp). Ike can make do with the grunts.
>>730830780You can also funnily have him just spam attack the boss on his debut chapter (make use out of taking Shinon's bow since he's certainly not going to be needing it) since the guy can't move and he heals every turn, which would exceed any additional bexp you get from completing chapter earlier than you would have. Can do that as a means of getting Rolf to catch up. I just don't see any reason to give bexp to mounted units since this game is very easily trivialized by canto shenanigans. Almost why I feel like can even say it's easier than Sacred Stones.
>>730792381Best FE game.
>>730831408I do this with Wolt in FE6's starting chapter, he gets like 3-4 level ups before his bow breaks and if they're good I use him but otherwise he's hitting the bench.
>>730830780>not really worth itI think that's a bit debatable. PoR is an incredibly easy game when it comes to getting units to 20/20. Sniper may not be the best class, but bows are very useful for maniac wyverns, because even a steel bow hits them harder than a silver axe. Rolf has 39 levels to grow plus promotion, and I would argue that even if he got so cursed as to be -3 in all stats against his averages, he would still be a good late game contributor with them.
>>730796694I like all of them except Fates, Awakening, and Engage. (Their story and worlds are shit, the writing is bad, the translations are censored and they feel gay/feminized/stupid, especially Engage.)
you niggers ruin every single relay by training up horrible archers in the early game
>>730832619You must have some low standards if you like Fire Emblem games mainly for their stories.
Thoughts on this popularity poll?
>>730797570>Muh racism, classism and religion bad isn't a good story, not even by FE standardsYes it is. ESPECIALLY by FE standards.It's BASED in reality and gives the world depth and intrigue.
>>730832771>depth>Good guys are nice to Laguz>Bad guys are mean to Laguz
>>730832729I can't play rpgs or other story-driven games if I don't care about the characters, world, or story. Simple as.
>shitty archer good because I can spam hits on the first boss for 2000 turnsbehold your /v/ gameplayfags
>>730832771
>>730832771>what if le furries... were le brown people, and le rich... were le corruptbravo Kojima
>>730832823That's still more depth than most games.
>>730832913I'm just saying, I just find it funny whenever a storyfag rallies to FE of all SRPGs. Because SRPGs almost always have story as their superior aspect over FE while FE usually has superior gameplay over them.
>>730832620The current relay is using lowen and oswin >>730819321
>>730829401Oh, it's that crazy ass motherfucker who uploaded it. He has crazy ass challenge runs in general, he's something else.
>>730832930Calm down, I just said it as an option since able to do that, unlike Sothe aka the worst unit in the game. And really if it is done, should just do it until meet the maximum bexp requirement for the chapter in finishing.
trvth
>>730832765>illy has her face completely covered>secret character, sothe, lianne all ahead of marcia>ROLF higher than all those characters
>>730831832I just kill Wolt, he has never once been anything else than a dissapointement and an outright detriment to have alive even when scrimblo'd. I swear, he was meticoulously designed to suck dick no matter what you do.
>>730832771Oh racism and slavery are bad? Thank you ethnostate, i didnt know that
>>730833153not playing a relay with this nightmare captcha
>>730833253Shinon was right about everything>Ike is a nepo baby Gary Stu>The subhumans are scum to humans and hence deserve their treatment>Mercs work for money, not to moralfag>Scrimbloing is based
>>730833279 Rolf aka the best developed child soldier in the series and the son of a Shepard.Seriously though, for a mid-evil times series it's so WEIRD how child soldiers killing is so glossed over, especially with them killing and all with coming to terms with blood on their hands that it's glossed over, yet with Rolf they actually acknowledge it and even take the subject matter seriously. And it's not even the only thing to the character as he's one of the FEW Path of Radiance characters who actually has a continued character development arc that goes onto Radiant Dawn regarding his absentee mom and it's handled well from how it would play out as this is unique from other FE characters as some share similar stuff like revenge trope. Hope you didn't like Mia too much because her character arc with trying to find her white clad rival goes absolutely no where. Zihark's better anyway. Also speaking of which...>>730833253Shinon's inconsistent, he had a support with Janaff that seemed to imply he was getting to knowledge the Laguz in getting rid of his prejudice, but then in Radiant Dawn it's back full swing. Jill's a MUCH better representation when it comes to the racism themes PoR brings into its narrative.
>>730830678Farming exp on Ike is silly. He will get so much easy free exp just from doing odd jobs along the way that he will easily cap before promotion.
>>730833709Who else do you want to train on ch3? Gatrie?
>>730833709>exp comes easy on that guy who does like 6 damage
>>730792381it's good... but certainly not flawless
>Soren calls Lethe a nigger>Lethe immediately tries to kill him despite royal ordersstereotypes against Laguz are warranted
>>730833807Fuck no, it's literally Ike's solo chapter. No one else is worth giving to. They're simply made to be use as meat bag shields for Ike when needed so he can heal with vulnerary. Plain and simple.>>730833709If you can't finish the chapter in time for the max exp all the while having Ike solo exp than all you've done is distinguish that you cannot think with how "silly" you think it is when the alternative is to giving exp to other available units that chapter don't get much from it is.
>>730834081>Laguz are violent, huh? Try saying that to their face. They'd claw the shit out of you!
>>730834164*max bexp
>>730832993Other SRPG’s don’t have better stories than FE, they may have better writing, often times not even that.
>>730822283
>>730796694Conquest, gameplay inly
>>730834251Triangle Strategy was my replacement for Fire Emblem at the time with what a train wreck ENGAYGE was.
>>730819857sara being so similar to deirdre and julia always felt weird considering no relation was ever given
>>730834251Other SRPGs have better stories just on the merit that they depict war chronicles better than FE does. Other SRPGs have characters that actually feel like historical figures in the war they're fighting, I've never gotten that feeling from any FE character. They lean much closer into being manga/anime style protagonists.
>>730834319The only Fates game worth playing. Birthright/Hoshito fans coping on as if its story is better than Conquest when both are equally shit anyway, but at least for one Conquest's actually is a war story then w/e the fuck side quest filler Birthright was doing.
>>730833825STR screwed Ike is truly a sad sight to see, but you get a free level in the prologue, and then you have 18 maps to gain the other 18 before he picks up Leanne. Really not hard to pick up a level every map as long as he does something every turn.>>730833807Gatrie is a good idea even if you don't want to use him in the long term because of his forced deployment on 13. Feeding him early to have him try to pick up some SPD and extra DEF so he can better block the halberdiers in the middle ships is a good idea. Another anon mentioned Titania, you can have her take Gatrie's lances to start building rank. Shinon is for the meme, but he sets up kills at least.
>>730804943allegory?
Human societies>Several countries with their own beliefs, cultures and organizationSubhuman "societies">I'm a crow so I live in the crow kingdom, serving the crow king
>>730804943Geoffrey's Charge and Elincia's Gambit are ludokino
>>730834909>Maps that beat themselvesThey're shit
what do you consider PoR biggest weakness?
>>730835008The sequel The difficulty
>>730835008Lack of a good difficulty mode. Hard is secretly Normal mode and Maniac mode isn't fun just tedious.
I beat PoR maniac recentlyit has a solid base but it has some wasted potential god damnI had some fun with it but even so I don't ever wanna play it again on that mode and hard is probably too boring, I remember I almost hated the game on my second HM playthrough>>730835008no good difficulty option
>>730834371triangle strategy is the perfect example of how storyfags dont actually care about stories as much as they do epic prose and loredumps
>>730835008Boring first halfTedious second half
>>730835095>Clash cleared in 5 turnsPoR bros? I thought that map was supposed to be hard on Maniac?
>>730834492Can't say I share the same sentiment. Triangle Strategy has so many fucking long cutscenes like holy fucking shit.
>>730815563I want to give Lethe a litter of branded children.
>>730835008it's very..slow
>>730835223It involved a lot of rng, not reliable at all>lowman it>marcia goes up and baits the upper enemies and wyverns, keeps them busy>oscar and kieran (with savior, carrying Ike) bum rush the enemy and try to get as close as possible to the seize point>release ike close there, try to kill the boss and then seize asapfuck that map. Even awakening and gaiden maps are better than this shit
>>730835223>>730835380oh and Elincia stays in the corner. Because of how FE9's ai work they will focus on Marcia and Ike/Oscar/Kieran
>>730824775>>730824070The actual answer is that people are backporting their memories of RD, where Ike is a genuine solo machine on par with the op units you get near the end. And that's with a very late promotion.
>>730832771I find it funny that the Tellius racism allegory is overly simplistic and sunny, but that's never the problem critics have with it. They just don't like it because it hits too close to home at their guilty conscience.
>>730834081Lethe just has too much nerdrage.
>>730796694I love Gaiden. OG Alm looked fierce, SoV Alm looks like some devshirme boyslut.
Charmless cast. Paint by numbers standard template Fire Emblem story with a few splashes of RACISM BAD. And unlike Radiant Dawn it't not fun in and of its gameplay. It's probably my least favorite pre-Awakening game besides vanilla 2.
https://youtu.be/4g3qY0GpJB0
>>730835380>>730835447Nice, this is like the closest thing to warp skipping in the game with no obtainable warp staff. I'm the opposite, I brought a massive army and crushed the enemy in 17 turns.
>>730792381How similar is the gameplay to modern Fire Emblem (3H, Engage)?
>>730837021>Worst game of old era FE is Gaiden>Worst game of new era FE is Gaiden (remake)Kek, old FE and New FE does have something in common after all.
>>730837136It doesn't have all the customization and shipping autism that characterizes post-Awakening FE. It's a classic Fire Emblem, a GBA game made 3D.
>>730834081>Mordecai: teehee I'm a pure little dandelion :) I couldn't hurt a fly :)>Soren: subhuman>Mordecai: RAAAAAAGH I'M GOING INSANE DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
>>730837136They are all certainly games with 3D map models and have shove mechanics.
Soren is gay, who cares what he thinks?
>>730827830Why does she talk to Leif like she has feelings for him?
>>730837503I hate how shove in the modern games is always hidden behind some obscure class skill nobody is going to bother with (or in Engage's case, behind a gacha ring)
>>730837084What was your team like? How did you ORKO so many enemies? Forged silvers?
>>730837136I don't know much about 3H, but outside of the absolute core gameplay, the main direct similarity between PoR and Engage is that they both use a weapon weight system, but PoR's gets checked against the STR stat instead of BLD. The shove mechanic, which you may not have even seen because it's locked as a skill on Mia's S rank bond ring is baked into the game. Everyone except mounted units can use it. You don't have an actual hub area like the Somniel, it's just a menu between maps. PoR was also the first game to try a forging system. There's no reclassing at all, everyone is stuck as what they are, but you also auto-promote when reaching level 21. There are a few promo items in the game. If you played the Switch games on Maddening, then I'd recommend trying to find a patched JP rom to try Maniac, because NA Hard is a snoozefest.
>>730838195One of my biggest players on the field was boots Gatrie with Provoke/Vantage/Cancel. He shutdown so much enemy offence, it's insane. I had a lot of bows on the field too, I gave them to Kieran, I had Astrid, Shinnon and Boyd all ready to clip wings. I had Soren and Tormod for magic damage. Mist did some work with Sonic sword. I even managed to have an early promoted, barely used Rhys score a kill with the Purge tome from the last map. I really went all out on the map, using laguz stones on Reyson and everything, and I stole a lot of goodies along the way. I had so many strong units there was almost no wasted slot. Marcia, Jill, Haar, Makalov, Nephenee. They were all up to speed and ready to contribute. Weirdly enough, I didn't even need to burn through that many forges, they were mostly just crutches for the weaker.
>>730838831Interesting, I wanted to use armor Knights more in my run but didn't have space on my team. My team did fine otherwise but I just didn't want to sit through massive enemy phases I guess>makalovbased though
>>730820214>>730821387>the enemies are less dangerousNo, they absolutely fucking arent lmao. Hard mode POR >>>>> Hard mode Seth Emblem and it isnt remotely close. This isnt even getting into infinite grinding. No, BEXP which you actually have to earn at least isnt remotely the same.
