>old FF7:>"we have a complex story and challenging battles">FF7R:>"we have quirk chungus characters and ubisoft towers!"Is it over for Final Fantasy?
>>730795506Isn't one of the big complaints about Remake that the story is too complex?
>>730795506>Final Fantasy Remake cant be that ba-ACK!
Now you get to pick mushrooms and chase chickens around though
>>730795506Hi Barry. Are you still having a sissy fit, because Remake is being released for Switch 2 next week? kek
>>730795506>ubisoft towersit's interesting how they destroyed so many fucking games
yet somehow it's still the jrpg of the decade.
>>730795506>>"we have a complex story and challenging battles"doesnt happen, really. Sephiroth motives arent deep and while Cloud journey is interesting, remake addresses many interesting stuff about his psyche like how he deals with trauma and his relationship with the party.As for challenging battles, it is already established that remake/rebirth are harder than the OG. I dont think the VR challenges are harder than Emerald, but emerald is very cheesable and grindable, in rebirth/remake you have to get good and execute well, theres no magic recipe
>>730795706>barry and eric are about to have a shit fit at the same timeshould be neat
>>730795712In their defense it wasn't entirely their fault. The system makes sense in Asscreed, but the game industry couldn't help but copy copy copy.
>>730795506Realism was a mistake
>>730795757Only because Expedition 33 doesn't have the J in it.I like Neo:TWEWY better anyway.
>>730795706Barry has been having a severe mental breakdown for 2 weeks now. Probably due to strong preorders. lmao
>>730795506>>old FF7>>complex storyscientist was mistaken, mad scientist rolled with it and decided to create being, being is mistaken and rolls with it anyway and wants to absorb the lifestream to become god because he just has to>>challenging battlesholding O for 99% of encounters isn't challenging.
>>730795838i like it over e33. people complain about the ubisoft towers but i don't mind them as much in the smaller open zone games as opposed to how much i loathe them in larger open world games.i think the big thing to me is that ff7re nails the sense of adventure in a way i haven't felt since skies of arcadia. the ways you traverse each zone being very different from each other helps there, it makes the regions and exploring them feel more unique. in open world games, usually that shit never changes up so they become boring as fuck.
>>730795506This game had the worst side content I ever experienced. After Junon, I put it on easy and rushed through it. Thank god you can fast forward cutscenes.
>>730795938It was bad. Im not even going to buy part 3. Im just going to watch a YouTube playthrough.
>>730795759Faggot can't into understanding. Many such cases. Dumb bitch. Kill yourself brownoid zoomer.
>>730795506>>challenging battles>press circle until x dies>occasionally use cure/cura/curaga all>repeat for literally every battle besides diamond, ruby and emerald weaponsFF7R's first boss is more challenging that every FF7 encounter except the 3 i mentioned.
>>730796079>thatthan*reading your shit fried some neurons, OP.
>>730795706Whats the opposite of a Barry called? Im noticing more seething schizo defenders lately (unless its the same one samefagging)
>>730795506She was an annoying quirk chungus in the original too>>730795938It's amazing how you arrive in beach city, are forced to do freetime activities and after you're done with that, you're free to progress the story and do the side content which felt more relaxing.>>730795570It's not that it's too complex, it's just garbage.https://youtu.be/XI7eCgxVBPA?t=3839https://youtu.be/bru_3qSS8y4?t=475For example in Rebirth you get teleported to a fucking cave for the Jenova bossfight.Also keep in mind both are the same chapter, just one is significantly longer
>>730795620this is actually pretty cool
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>>730796067>Faggot can't into understanding50 bucks you have been shitposting for 20 years about sephiroth having mommy issues and his motivations being "i am a cetra...therefore i will kill everyone"
>>730796328>For example in Rebirth you get teleported to a fucking cave for the Jenova bossfight.You dont get teleported, its an illusion, it is the same ship but covered
>>730795506>quirk chungus charactersWhat does that mean anyway. JRPG cast was always quirk chungus. If by non quirk chungus you mean the generic shaved head white guy protagonist then I would pick quirk chungus.
>>730796850I can let it slide but the game just continues with dumb shit.It's frustrating
>>730795506>challenging battlesLOL
>>730795506I thought the char design was great but yeah, the Ubislop "open zone" and lack of challenges and strategy in the battle system compared to the OG which contributed a lot to the roleplaying, storytelling and sense of achievement, was lackluster.Remakes are technically nice nostalgia popcorns for my inner kid, but sadly lack good game design.Also I hate what they've done to my Cid.
>>730796328Gosh, the transition in the OG from the gloom BGM to the Jenova battle theme is soooo genius. ASM to my brain.
>>7307962507R has its own Barry.If you love 7R, fine, defend it when it's criticized. But what I noticed is certain people can't let you away with anything negative. Nothing. If you like the new story and the new comabt and hell even the time jannies, okay, make your case. But the fact that there's someone who can't stand to see the old elevator praised and the new one disliked is how I knew some people had just gone to the extreme with their overdefensiveness.Because I've seen fucking ESSAYS written about how the old design makes no sense and the new one is PRACTICAL (who the fuck ever cared about practicality in FINAL FANTASY before where rule-of-cool reigns supreme?) and they were serious. I don't know how much they really believed it, but the bottom line was clearly if the OG was praised and the remake was insulted, they HAD to step in and make clear everyone was WRONG to do so.Personally, I'd say "yeah the elevator in the OG was cooler, but 7R is still good for these other reasons" but they can't do that. They literally cannot. Your big criticism of 7R? WRONG. Your tiny criticism of 7R? WRONG.Similarly, Barry couldn't let you say anything bad about XV, big or small. And if you asked him what flaws, even tiny ones, XV had, he sure as shit wouldn't admit to any. He'd just start crying about Nathan or something.
>>730796328>For example in Rebirth you get teleported to a fucking cave for the Jenova bossfight.Jenova is an illusionist bud
>>730798704It seems the autism runs strong with this game. Do FF7R Barrys have a name?
>>730795506it was over for final fantasy the minute they went 3d
Yuffie was always an annoying quirk chungus though.She's a 13 year old edgelord ninja girl who like, hates her dad, maaan.That's the point of the character. To be cringe.I'm not even defending VIIR (looks shit, haven't played it) but at least PRETEND like you played the original if you're gonna criticize the writing.
>>730795506/v/ really is obsessed with this game, making a thread every day about it for almost 2 years now, eh?
>>730799254>t.never played the og gameShe was a BRAT, not a le quirky reddit chungus caricature
>>730799520and every one of them is about how shit it is, or waifus. quite a legacy.
>>730799520almost like this is a video game board and people are talking about popular video games
>>730799842>popularLet's not go nuts
>>730795506R is significantly more challenging than OG and it isn't even close.
>>730800032>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchisesIt objectively is
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>>730800120>franchiselmaooooooooooooooooo even by 7R thread standards this is an unholy level of cope
>>730799642what good video game gets posted a lot here?
>>730795506If you go black and play FF7 you'll be shocked at how little character everyone has, how little they actually say, how little they do, and how bad the translation is.While I have a lot of nostalgia for FF7 and I think the remake has jumped the retard shark with this time janny shit, literally every character is better written in remake. Every one. There is not a single party member written worse.
Look at the catalog. Every game /v/ is discussing right now is good because /v/ is talking about them. That's how it works.
Better character writing is when everyone says more things. The more dialoge, the more gooder the characterization is.
>>730795506Yes, absolutely. I'm just glad Yuffie didn't get hit with the ugly stick like Tifa and Aerith, cant imagine being their waifufags and having to cope with this shit.
>>730795506Every single thing I've heard about this game for years is abhorrent, Final Fantasy is a lolcow
>>730800485>Better character writing is when everyone says more thingsNo, better character writing is when you actually write a character, with all the pros and cons, with different dimensions than just "plot", characters that are consistent in each other. Which is something you see in rebirth/remake but not in the og *cough red xiii cough*What you mention "everyone says more things" is just a natural next step.
>>730801061Touristing WoWfaggot.
>>730798704I defend Remakes because I like it and even I admit there things in that game that cannot be defended. But you always skip mentioning reasonable person like myself just to paint all 7R fans as mindless buffoons, don't you?
I still have remake sitting unplayed in my shelf.And I still wonder how you can inflate a 5 hour section into a 30+ hour game. at some point i will actually find out and play it.
>>730801121I'm no tourist and he's right.
>>730799617She was a quirky reddit chungus charicature of a Japanese anime character archetype, you just project whatever personality you wanted onto her because you were 12 and unfamiliar with what she was referencing (and because the OG translation was mid).This is true of virtually all Japanese humor content in vidya and anime that people look back on fondly today.
>>730801250>I admit there things in that game that cannot be defendedWell then you're not the person I'm talking about so there's no need to feel attacked.Acknowledging the existence of Barry does not mean everyone who likes XV is Barry. That would be a silly thing to think - and also scary. That would be millions of Barrys.Do you often feel you're being personally attacked even when the party being described doesn't match your profile? Maybe you're paranoid, maybe you're insecure, or maybe you're just a very sensitive empath.
>>730801626Except that you always say as if anyone who you disagree with are extremists. Meanwhile have you ever admitted that there are some things worth defended and that the Remakes improved some things or do things better?
>>730795506>old FF7>complex story
>>730800179Wow, your no context webm really btfo'd me.
>>730801731You completely ignored everything I just said to you. And yes I've talked about the good things about Remake lots of times. Again, you don't have to hate XV to hate how Barry acts. I criticized that behavior and you decided to pretend I was talking about "everyone"Will you be acknowledging anything I just asked you? Or is this a one way exchange?
>>730801445One part everything naturally taking longer because the scale is larger, one part being the expansion of dialogue in every scene, one part new content (side and main), and one part "cinematic" traversal (there are millions of sections where you're forced to walk slowly either for dialogue to play out or through rubble)As someone who went in skeptical, I was mostly okay with the pacing. The forced walking sections are annoying, and a couple of the new additions to the main story felt out of place.
>>730795506So was this game a success or not
>>730802212No. It didn't even beat FFXV, the worst FF of all time, in sales.
