>when people talk about "good old pixel art" they're thinking about the left, not the rightNo wonder pixelshit is so popular with indie devs, it has more nostalgic value than good pixel art
I don't think about the gba when I think of "good ol pixel art", lil zoom zoom
>>730801372GBA Pokemon was perfect
>>730801372But I love the right. I love Minish Cap especially. I love the whole Capcom GBA era.
>>730801372Pokefags always had such low standards.
>>730801372the classic "person who looks at screenshots of games but doesn't play any" take
>>730801372they're right and you're wrongleft has high legibility and infinite room for imaginationright looks too busy visuallyonly the worst kind of autistic would see right as superior to left. the type of wretched subhuman who thinks of himself as better than "normalfags" yet actually treats video GAMES as a collection of cinematic stills, rather than something meant to be experienced through the lens of interactionyou are literally a soulless creature
>>730801372They all look good
I always dreamed that Pokemon games would look like Ranger they’re perfect visually. Why can’t all Pokemon games look like this?
>>730801372issue with pixel art is that in most people minds they think of exclusively the limits. Such as NES hardware limitations. Not understanding people like Paul Robertson is a professional pixel artist and all of his stuff counts as pixelart, only he lack any kind of limitations aside from what he choose to have in that given moment. Pixelart doesn't mean it have to be shitty, it just mean you work at a pixel level. I had to explain that to people so many fucking times.
>>730803174"but that isn't from a game, it doesn't count!" PC-88 predate the NES and had pixel art for games. Wow it almost as if the NES was just a piece of hardware with a shit ton of limitations! Maybe don't use toys for literal children as a source of good art?
>>730801372God I love R/S/E
>>730803174Pixel art as a medium literally only exists because of hardware limitations you moron.
Right is overwrought. For example, I preferred the look of the Zelda Oracle games over Minish Cap.
>>730803343Ironic people only care about graphics nowadays, if we had felt that way back then NES and SNES wouldn't even exist. I can't stress enough good pixel art was the norm for PC-88 games. That wasn't an one off.
>>730803505Why on Steam so many games use pixel art though they lack any real hard gridded limitations? It is almost as if it is a style. The medium is digital art retard. Learn what the words means before you speak. People can literally make better pixelart than the very game that use the very same hardware.
>>730801372Maybe people who didn't grow up with 2D gaming, but I would think of the right stuff than the left.>>730802846You didn't grow up with 2D games and it shows.
>>730803174At that point you can just downscale and dither literally any image and call it "pixel art" lmaoMost good pixel art indie games now use the 360p resolution because it integer scales to all common display resolutions, i.e. 720p (x2), 1080p (x3), 1440p (x4) and 2160p (x6), allowing these games to look clean and sharp on all displays
>>730803174Anon you can explain this to you're blue in the face but people are forever going to think "pixel art = 8 bit (16 bit if you're lucky)"
>>730802846>only the worst kind of autistic would see right as superior to leftHilariously ironic coming from a shitmonfag, did you buy the new premium Pikachu lego set yet? Also the games on the right are still readable while offering actual detail, if anything the repetitive assets on the left robs any type of wonder your imagination could have.
>>730804485Whether something is pixel art or not depends entirely on the fact if the majority of the pixels were individually placed by hand or not, nothing else
>>730802846The only REAL fags are the people such as yourself who have to divide everything into "our side vs their side". The left is perfectly fine and the right is perfectly fine as long as the games themselves are fun to play. You gotta get out of this tribal mentality bullshit.
>>730802846>muh left-right politicsyou don't get to call that anon soulless
>>730803174Man I haven't heard about this guy in like ten yearsSince he did that stuff on the gravity falls epsiodeFun times in the early 10s
>>730803941Because the devs lack art talent and appealing to nostalgia or low res artstyles is an easy crutch.Anything can be an art style, that doesn't change the fact that pixel art is born out of hardware limitations.
>>730803941Also you do understand this is a drawn image run through a pixelization filter
>>730801372I don't think anybody says that Pokemon maps have good pixel art, Anon.People do praise the combat sprites of different monsters, but I have never seen anybody outside here say that the maps look beautiful. Are they functional and readable? Yes, but so are dungeons in fucking Minish Cap, and that game just looks way better all around.
>>730806134Then most PC-88 games you hipsters love to post are not pixel art because they're scanned drawings.
>>730801372Both are good. But >>730802846 has it right I don't care that much about good art. It has to be passable
>>730801372Cool strawman. I like the games I enjoy and I don’t really care what other people like. The games I like never get popular anyways.
>>730802846>>730808682Zoomer posers annoy me, legibility is fucking meaningless in simple turn based games like these and in fact lack of detail and variety while you have literally nothing else to do will likely mean your immersion will be broken
>>730801372Graphics whore, but for 2D games
>DSzoomers will defend this ugly mess
>>730801372Pokemon was best when it looked simpler but I still do agree with what you said. Its a good look for Pokemon but that doesn't mean they should have been copying it for inspiration.
>>730808080>this postIf anyone needed evidence that nu-4chan is riddled with bots, here it is...
>>730809178>THOSE DARN ZOOMERS>BACK IN MY DAY IF I DIDN'T LOOK AT SOMETHING PRETTY FOR 5 SECONDS I'D START TO GET DISTRACTEDCattle
>>730802846Anon is right. Legibility is crucial for actually enjoying the game while you're playing it instead of just admiring the pretty art graphics. On the righthand side, Minish Cap is a good example of attractive pixel art while still maintaining legibility.I don't think anyone ACTUALLY thinks the lefthand side is the best legible pixel art can look. People just enjoy the concept of Pokemon more than those other games. Catching and training your own magical pets has enormous appeal even if the graphics are a little lacking.
what is this art style called? it sucks
>>730810429No you're a fucking retard zoomer for parroting "muh legibility" without understanding that legibility is only important if there's lots of things to interact with or if there's fast action that requires reflexes, if your game has neither, like Pokemon, then legibility is literally not important in the slightest, even if you intentionally made it hard to read the players have all the time in the world to get around and nothing important to interact with
>>730810798>Mishmash faggotryYikes>>730810781Is that westwards?
>>730801372When people talk about "good pixel art" they are actually talking about>"pixel art that I PERSONALLY like for reasons that I lack the vocabulary to explain"It's literally this simple and this is all you need to understand. The average person is not educated enough to explain their reasoning for anything and are just existing in "vibes/feelings" mode, and worse: they don't actually care to try and understand their world more to express why they feel the way they do about the things they claim to enjoy.
>>730809767It's probably a little weird for Japan how much nostalgia the rest of the world has for an era of their history marked by economic stagnation.
>>730811474Actually kids growing up in the 00s probably have a warped sense of the decade in general. ESPECIALLY if you were a 4chan oldfag, i.e. family was rich enough to afford a computer and an internet connection. If that was you, then you experienced the 00s as a golden age in entertainment. But for everyone else it was 9/11, War on Terror, Great Recession.
>>730810798uncslop
>>730810875You cannot even fathom why a game for kids would need legibility, and then tries to pretend your ADHD is somehow the norm. Utter retard, bantu tribes in Africa have higher brain functions than you
>>730801372they're thinking about black and white doofus
>>730814698You must've been a retarded child
>>730802846Thanks for the engagement baitAlso play Minish Cap
>>730817593this but also play summon nights
>>730817815BasedI wish Sword of Mana had aged better. I played it a couple of months ago but these days it's pretty rough around the edges gameplay wise.Still looks gorgeous however
>>730801372https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3vr6u9yjJY
>>730801372on the right, what are the games that aren't minish cap and dragon ball?is it golden sun 1/2?
>>730819487Magical Vacation is one of them
>>730801662>a console that came out in 2001 is now for zoomers, who were born after 2001So old = kiddie shit and new = based and uncpilled?
When will indie games finally move on to 1080p? Is it really that hard to make a sprite larger than what existed on the SNES?
>>730821937Pixel art looks like shit in big viewports
>>730801372Right is far better than the leftLeft is for untalented indie cunts nostalgia-baiting
Most people's experience with pixel art ARE the Pokemon games and nothing else
>>730810050Literally soul/soulless.
>>730801372left is more comfy
>>730821937The bigger the resolution, the more difficult and time consuming it is to draw pixel art.
Still the king.
>>730814971>they’re thinking about games that looked like even more abhorrent dogshit and didn’t even use sprites in the overworld
it just werks
>>730801372I think Minish Cap looks far better than left. Whatever happened to the decompile project for that?t. had a dot matrix screen gameboy
>>730814971Yeah right ,bw look like shit and most of the sprites are just reused from the previous generation with an ugly tween animation
>>730826957I agree it's the best looking SNES game. The remake was okay in that it is arguably less janky, but visually it's pretty generic and for some reason doesn't have coop.
>>730801372Minish Cap looks better but it's also a way shorter game with less content. Same with the DBZ game.
>>730801372insane how soulful emerald is
>>730801372I like both
>>730801372When I talk about pixel art I think of right.Do you not think thousands of other people like me don't exist?
>>730809767>you got the graphicsGood one.
>>730801372Minish Cap alone blows the fuck out of all those barren, ugly, same color palette shit on the left.
>>730801372Sword of Mana wasnt that good. Pokemon R/S/E is remembered because the Pokemon formula is enjoyable and the music is great.
>>730819487Sword of Mana is on the right top left
>>730828995>and for some reason doesn't have coop.Whoa holy shit, it doesn't?I was actually considering buying it at some point. Fuck.
>>730801372Ohh Minish Cap...
>>730806134>Majority of pixels placed>The defining feature of an artstyle is something you cannot know unless you were present during its creationThat's a retarded way to define pixel art
>>730804485i forget the name of this game something about a leaf or something right?
>>730832643How do you know if this is a photo turned black and white in an editing program or a hyperrealistic pencil sketch
>>730809610>>730827169Got bored of shitting up /vp/, yawnfag?
>>730801372What game(s) are the top left and both of the top and bottom right, for the six pictures on the left?
>>730833252Pokemon Emerald?
>>730803174>>730803343sure but the second pic your posted is superior and Paul Robertson a hack that has no concept of contrast.
>>730802846>defending pokesloppokemon has always being crap, people only defend it because it was the first rpg they played in their life
>>730828715I'd love to play a romhack that's all like this
>>730833932>no english TLA shame
>>730833523top left is sword of mana, top right is summon night: swordcraft story 2, bottom right is magical vacation
>>730801372Nobody ever said gen 3 pokémon had good graphics back in the day, as much as I personally love gen 3 it was the downfall of pokémon within the masses. Revisionists here like to pretend people started being done with pokémon around gen 6 or something but that started with gen 3
>>730834642Ah, but your mistake is that you think I'm a sheep who bases my opinion on what the masses think like you do.
>>730834642Funny you say revisionism considering Pokemania died long before Gen 3 came out, and it's largely because Pokemon's target audience became teenagers who wanted to watch Star Wars and play Grand Theft Auto.
>>730833195You don't, but you're also asking about its medium and not a genre. That picture being a photo taken and edited vs being drawn doesn't change the subject matter or the genre it is. Regardless of how it's made, I'd still describe it as hyper realistic symbolism. Pixel Art is the same way. It does not effectively matter HOW it's made, what does matter are the traits of the finished art itself.
>>730834925No, not reallyYou wouldn't call a low resolution photo "pixel art", all mediums are decided based on the method of their creation >genreCompletely irrelevant to the topic
pokemon and nintendo fanbase overall is diseased, but it's the kind of trash consumers businesses want to target, therefore panderinghumans don't buy fucking "trading cards" or amiibos
>>730803343What is that pic from?
>>730835045I'd absolutely call a low resolution photo pixel art, the same way I would ultimately call a raw, unedited photograph taken on a 16 megapixel camera hyperrealism. The only hangup anyone might have on a low resolution photo is the 'art' part, and that's just because the assumption is that it's just a shitty camera, not that it's intentional.Under your retarded definition, literally anything could be pixel art.
>>730835698Under your retarded definition a pencil drawing can be a photo
>>730834642I think the pixelart in FRLG is fine, better than RSE definitely. That said I think Gen 4 is when that style really started to work
>>730835818A photo (The result of Photography) is a medium you fucking nit. A pencil drawing can be photo-realistic, similar to how a photograph can be photo-realistic. Pixel Art isn't a medium.
>>730835987>Pixel Art isn't a medium.It is
>>730834617Thanks anon.
>>730836094Alright, then what's the style called then? Because I can promise you that when people say 'Wow, that's really good Pixel Art', they're not thinking about how someone individually placed every pixel, they're talking about it being low resolution so they can see the pixels in the art.
>>730801372visual clarity is king
>>730836214People are fucking stupid, they'd say the left is not pixel art but the right is
>>730833132momodora found it. are both of them good or is one definitely a better experience if I only have vacation until sunday?
>>730836627Yeah, no shit. Because when people talk about pixel art, they're talking about art they can see the pixels of. This is why trying to define it as a medium is retarded, especially in the context of game design, where people are referring to a look.If we're saying it's a medium, you couldn't say either of those are pixel art (Without prior knowledge) because you don't know if someone just drew a picture and lowered the DPI, or if it was actually pixel art.
>>730837140>literally anything can be pixel art as long as you scale it with nearest neighbor scalingFull retard
i dont like the pixel art in this game or how it animates
>>730801662gba is millenial coded. are you a gen x?
>>730801372Pokeshitters are a disease yes.
>>730842006I don't like this as much as the Gen 2 ones but this is still cute
>>730821758>zoomers, who were born after 2001I swear half of you retards have no clue a gen Z even is. The oldest zoomers are pushing 30 for fuck's sake
>>730844159I noticed that some of them are trying to retroactively change what year gen Z starts since they don't like being labeled as Zoomers, it's really sad.
fire red/leaf green has the most comfy summer art style. when i replay them i can remember that summer smell in the air from when i used to play it
>>730844437Im seeing more being aggressive toward millieanals. When any born in the 90s are closer to millieanals culturally. I think the cutoff should be 2000 for zoomers. Not every 10 year old had a tablet in 2010 vs 2015 where they all did.
for me, it's hard corps
>>730837815disgusting
>>730839683millenials born after like, 88, are basically zoomers
>>730837815>focus B
>>730837390Alright. Prove that any of these pictures are pixel art.
>>730801662GBA was the peak of pixel art. If you think otherwise you're just outing yourself as a casual who hasn't played enough games.
>>730834374Pokemon Lazarus is really close to what you want
>>730845125I'll check it out, thanks for the suggestion
